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12:02 AM
A scheduled SE shutdown is imminent. The plan is that it's 1/2 hour.
 
 
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3:58 AM
@WiktorStribiżew While I appreciate your desire to have this question you've answered reopened, the rules for SOCVR explicitly prohibit anyone from making a request about a post which they've asked or answered, or about an edit which they've made (#15 in our FAQ).
 
@Makyen Maybe you should take into account what the rule is there for for once...
 
@JohnDvorak I'd suggest that you look at what happened with the most recent prior time that I moved a reopen request, per the same rule.
@JohnDvorak If you felt that request was worthy, then why have you not voted to reopen and posted a reopen-pls?
 
When was that?
 
@JohnDvorak About 4 days ago.
 
I don't suggest this should be reopened.
 
 
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6:42 AM
morning
 
Rob
o/
 
sup rob
 
 
7:46 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto Yes. Yes, that's pretty broad.
 
Morning
 
8:27 AM
Anyone know if the person asking a question gets a ping for a comment on a answer? As far as I know only the person who posted the answer gets the ping but I'm starting to doubt a bit.
 
8:42 AM
@AndréKool No, the author of the question does not get a ping when a comment is made on an answer, unless the question author qualifies for being pinged through for some other reason (i.e. that's not associated with being the question author).
 
@Makyen Thanks for confirming that :)
 
\o/ morning
 
It is still thursday, no need to be over excited ...
 
@rene It was a yawning stretch :)
 
That saved you then ;)
 
8:48 AM
@Yam Not quite worthy of re-open for me. It still doesn't explain what's gone wrong (is it printing incorrectly? not at all?)
 
/o\ morning
 
9:16 AM
Bit slow for a thursday. Everyone preparing for the weekend?
 
9:31 AM
@AndréKool More like on a comedown from last night in this office
 
@MichaelDodd I wasn't expecting anything else to happen, it's by chance that they got as far as they did
 
@AndréKool Yup - I've cleaned the inside of my bag so that it smells pleasant when it's over my head.
 
@NickA Agreed, they did a lot better than expected for such an inexperienced squad. Just a shame the two goals they did let in were from defensive switch-offs
But this is the most positive I've felt about the England squad for a very long time, if ever
 
@MichaelDodd My thoughts exactly, unfortunately the positivity surrounding the team itself doesn't extend everywhere (looking at the brawls in birmingham last night)
 
@NickA Eh, that's why I rarely watch at the pub nowadays
On the plus side, it now means I don't have to hurry back to Southampton from London on Sunday lunchtime
 
9:45 AM
@MichaelDodd That is a plus, I'm in the NE of Scotland so will have to deal with ridicule for weeks to come
 
10:09 AM
Cody was right, the suggested edits queue being my favourite would not last...
 
@NickA Do be fair you do occasionally find a bit of comedy gold in that queue, usually in the edit reason box
Best ones are where the spelling and grammar is actively destroyed rather than improved
 
@NickA I didn't know that anyone had 'favourite' queues. I thought that there was just degrees of hate/loathing.
 
Or someone tries to edit an entirely new answer into an existing, highly-voted answer
 
My least favourite recently are people code-formatting every single thing
@MartinJames I used to enjoy the edits queue, now I think you're right and I have queues that I hate the least, but nothing more
 
Any 10k+ user can confirm for me that this deleted question is the same as this question?
And does anyone have a good comment for deleting and reposting questions/answers?
 
10:18 AM
@MichaelDodd New favourite, an edit summary which address every eventuality "Improved formatting, don't use the Thanks,Please and Name in the post. Only write proper question. Otherwise you may get blocked."
 
@NickA They obviously caught the "no fun allowed" rule on SO then
 
@AndréKool yeah same
 
@SurajRao Thank you for checking :)
 
@NickA And then there's @AndréKool's meta post from a couple of months ago
 
Oh wow, how did I miss that
 
10:25 AM
Ow yeah, my This site is not a dating sevice reject :)
 
"Thank you for reviewing 20 suggested edits today; come back in 13 hours to continue reviewing." :( ohhhh
 
@AndréKool I'd call it spam
 
@AndréKool voted for delete
 
Link only answer I think. NAA
 
10:31 AM
@NileshRathod If it's spam shouldn't you flag it instead of voting to delete? (Assuming you are assuming it's spam)
 
The question is asking for offsite resource or too broad?
 
also added flag @AndréKool
 
10:46 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'd say general hardware/software
 
Rob
That wasn't spam
 
11:02 AM
@Rob Even if the sole purpose was to use the answer to promote their own services (YouTube channel this case), leading to potential monetary gain for the user? (ads, etc)
 
Rob
@MichaelDodd I was referring to another report (smokey self deleted): m.erwaysoftware.com/posts/uid/stackoverflow/51303747
 
@Rob Ah ok, thought you were referring to this one that came back as disputed for me. Smokey link
 
Rob
Aye, that one's not so clear cut. And if I'm on the fence, I'd rather take the less drastic action there
So I disputed the flags, which is neither helpful nor declined
 
Can a mod dispute normal mod flags?
Or are those helpful/declined only
 
Rob
No, only red flags
 
11:06 AM
@Rob Noted and agreed. Not 100% clear cut, but felt more like spam than undisclosed promotion to me
 
Queen is reporting in here again I see?
@πάνταῥεῖ It's almost as if you're the only one that uses it
 
dunno ^ cant we just let it roomba?
 
11:40 AM
@AndréKool I'd also argue the dupe target is too broad
 
@NileshRathod This will roomba (plus too early, needs 2 days to ripen).
 
@MichaelDodd Yup, I already flagged that before but I didn't think it was needed to post a cv-pls request for that
But seeing the duplicate/repost I will do that now
 
Ron
12:04 PM
o/
 
12:27 PM
@Ron visited 1019 days, 530 consecutive. About to have that streak broken. :P
 
12:40 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon o/
 
Afternoon
 
SO seems slow this morning
 
Lets
!!/blame
 
12:43 PM
@kayess It's halfer's fault.
 
lol
 
See...
hiya Mr C#kosi \o
 
Where there's smoke, there's blame...
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@kayess o/
 
@Nkosi \o
 
Ron
12:47 PM
@Nkosi 9 to 5 got in the way.
 
12:58 PM
@Enzokie I went SU instead. It's general computing unless it's a pro setup
 
1:54 PM
@Machavity Halfer is on fire?
 
@Olaf The Russian version of Absolut Lemon is all it is...
(and my Russian is very rusty indeed)
@MartinJames a Rocket engine as a kitchen cleaner? Hmmm, never tried that! ;-)
@AnttiHaapala More positive Finnish idiom compared to the English one! ;-)
 
@MunimMunna I'm actually unsure on that one. Yes it's a very poorly researched question, and the reaction to the answers have gone to hell, but they're not technically asking for a resource, it's not too broad and it's clear what they want
I'd personally be looking for a dupe target
 
2:12 PM
(I should've hammered that...)
Dear lord, someone upvoted that o.O
 
@MichaelDodd I searched but could not find a suitable dup, and answers are being posted already... so
 
@MunimMunna Yeah it's a bad question, but I don't think it qualifies under any of the close reasons IMO
 
@Cerbrus I see score -2
 
@MunimMunna Since "not using google" is not a close reason in itself
@MunimMunna It's +1/-3
 
@MichaelDodd I don't think close reason actually matters here, it's definitely gonna be trashed, for that we need to close it anyway
 
2:18 PM
Well, it's closed now anyway so it's a moot point
 
@MichaelDodd You can see the up-votes and down-votes separately? I don't
 
@MunimMunna Did you try clicking on the score next to a question/answer?
 
@MunimMunna You should be able to, you have more rep than me. Click the score.
 
@AndréKool OMG... I never knew, :o... I thought you can't see that anyway... now that cerbrus told about it, I thought high rep users might see it
 
Yay I helped a person, my job is done for this week :)
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@MunimMunna It's part of the 1k rep privilege
 
Ron
2:39 PM
What to do newcomers posting a comment as answer?
Answer to myself: flag as NAA.
 
@Ron Yeah
 
Ron
@MichaelDodd Thanks.
 
@Ron Just make sure it isn't even remotely looking like a possible answer
 
@Ron It depends on the answer itself, if it attempts to answer 0.01% then also NAA not applicable, but if it's just asking for more information, flag it
 
Ron
Will do. It's this one.
 
2:43 PM
Ok, thats really NAA
 
You guys are too nice, NAA from a newcomer, bam -1 NAA
 
Ron
@NickA Actually it's a 2 years old account. And it's possible neither of us was a downvoter.
 
I tend to pay little attention to that, I made my account years ago but have only been active on it for the last couple
And I meant I'll happily slap a -1 on a post
 
Ron
What makes you think we did it?
 
2:52 PM
I'm not saying you did, I'm saying I did, although admittedly i wasn't very clear on that
 
Ron
Let's blame someone.
!!/blame
 
@Ron It's FOX 9000's fault.
 
My desk is moving OwO
 
I'm too bored to press that downvote button right now
 
(as in moving locations, not... physically moving)
 
2:56 PM
I'm still waiting for jeopardy.SE, where questions must be in the form of answers and answers must be in the form of questions
 
Ron
@rene Indeed it is.
 
@MichaelDodd propose it on A51. Could fit in the same category as Spam.se
@Ron posted in SOBotics 41 minutes ago. That is probably the source
 
3:24 PM
@FireAlarm Well, he completely changed the question but now it's no MCVE
 
3:44 PM
@Compass for a second I was wonder if it gain sentience
@rene The bots are starting to turn on each other. Quick, now is our chance to stop judgment day.
 
I've seeded some more questions into
 
4:08 PM
@Nkosi It must not happen! We need a strong an united army to defend against the massed hordes of the evil blogge who, at the slightest sign of weakness, will sweep in, take our friends and families and transform them into mindless slaves for all eternity:(
 
Ron
Once AI picks up it's game over, sadly.
 
@Ron only for games that make sense :-)
for games like rugby or league of legends, humans are safe :-P
plus no AI could possibly ever truly understand the importance of hats in TF2
 
Ron
Either universe is dominated by AI or is yet to be dominated by one.
</sosaysron>
 
Ron
Given there is so much crappy legacy code out there we might just postpone the apocalypse.
 
4:23 PM
@Ron Lots of crappy new code too. Just seen yet another compounded assignment statement gone wrong 'cos operator precedence and misplaced brackets. I do wish users would just shtap with teh ' cool, clever' code and write stuff they can debug:(
 
@NickA I could also use it in the Charcoal chat I think. Just too lazy to change that for now.
 
4:43 PM
@Makyen: I'm not sure if the poster to that question will ever agree.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm not sure which question you're talking about.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth thank you. I'm also in the dark regarding his context, but I remember that the first time we ever had an interaction was when I voted to close some TempleOS question.
 
5:31 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Ahh, yes. I just CV, fired off the comment, and promptly stopped thinking about the question. The OP didn't ping me, so I didn't know they'd replied. There are just so many of those "Here's a link to my site. Something's wrong. Plz fix." questions. Unfortunately, they commonly get answered, which, of course, just encourages people to keep doing it, rather than creating a Q&A that's valuable to others (and possibly start learning how to fix their own problems).
I agree, the OP of that question is unlikely to change the question to be helpful to others, at least in their current state of mind. I like the comment you made. It does a good job of explaining the help future users focus. As to this particular quesiton, the OP's response makes it clear that they feel entitled to help, without regard to creating Q&A which are usable to other people in the future.
 
5:42 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Oh.. ''more experienced developers feel the need to belittle and mock learners'... OK r/a flag applied, no problem.
 
I just removed the tag.
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It's quite old stuff, and didn't actually attract spam so far @Machavity
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Cool. No more questions!
 
We're coming close, yes ;)
 
I never thought we'd see the day. Maybe we can remove next
@πάνταῥεῖ So you're saying it's not close-worthy? Has 2 NAAs and a couple more deleted
 
6:02 PM
@Machavity It will be reviewed by a broader audience again after my edit anyways now.
 
6:13 PM
I don't see how an algorithm is an off-site resource. An algorithm comprises the steps necessary to complete a particular task, i.e. it's "how to do X". An off-site resource would be like a page describing an algorithm. All of the answers which just post links are providing off-site resources but the question doesn't ask for links, and those answers could have summarized their links here.
 
@Makyen Go ahead and bin this please
 
@NathanOliver Thanks
 
 
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8:39 PM
I broke 4K rep! OwO
 
Woot
 
@EvanCarroll you have taken a very liberal approach on that edit :D ... I do see an image url in that post. Did you on purpose not link to that (inlining would be counter productive I think) or was it an oversight?
 
9:01 PM
@Compass Real programmers would say you are still 62 short of 4K :)
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@Compass I'll offer you a crate of beer if you hit ;)
+ some chicken wings!
 
Sam
9:26 PM
 
9:47 PM
@MartinJames that's 4Ki
 
and admitted by OP in comments
 
10:40 PM
Another un-answerable question with multiple upvotes. I'd love to know why this happens.
 
11:02 PM
 
user4639281
11:13 PM
How's it hangin' homies?
 
All fine so far @Tiny, still defending about chewing choklit :3
Doggy drafted :P
 
user4639281
:P
 
@TinyGiant Same-old/same-old. Long time no see in here. Welcome back. How's it going for you?
 
But I am following a number of SE devs and PM's at twitter right now ;)
@Tiny @rene is flowering all the time. Superior flower.
 

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