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12:17 AM
@halfer like playing rugby at times though
 
1:18 AM
@RapunzelVanWinkle I don't know that you can delete either now. One is accepted and the other is upvoted
 
1:39 AM
I'm definitely not able to delete the "accepted" answer (even now after the question has been duped)... but I've edited it to point to the answer to the original question (which will probably become the canonical one).
 
 
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5:39 AM
@SurajRao re-flagged.
 
 
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7:33 AM
Morning
 
7:45 AM
Morning \o
 
8:23 AM
@AndréKool I thought non-English comments (usually on non-English posts) were forbidden...?
 
@Adriaan Check the last paragraph in this answer
 
@AndréKool ah, so apparently it's OK to tell people to translate themselves in another language. THanks
 
@Adriaan Yeah I think this kind of situation is the exception to the english-only rule.
 
8:42 AM
I have feeling this is going to be misused... There is already
 
@SurajRao Maybe just remove the tag and let the system delete it....???
 
yeah
 
9:03 AM
Anyone want to confirm a bug for me before I post on meta? When I go through the flag dialog it's position "jumps around" (for example when doing: flagging --> should be closed --> back to flagging)
 
@AndréKool confirmed on Chrome/Win10
 
@AndréKool can see it in Chrome/Mac (High Seirra)
 
hmmm, appears to be on all stack sites
 
o/
 
\o
 
9:11 AM
o|
 
Plop
 
Polp
@AndréKool there's already a meta on that somewhere ... at least I know I saw it once
 
@Adriaan I didn't find it on MSE (only this question but its a different issue) I'll have another look at MSO if I can find something
 
@AndréKool This one is related/same
 
@NickA yes, that was what I was referring too, thanks for finding it.
 
9:23 AM
@Adriaan I remembered it from before too ^^
 
Blegh, using "flag dialog" instead of "flag menu" in search so I couldn't find it.
 
I'm writing comments longer than the question itself. Shouldn't that somehow raise an automatic VLQ flag on question length?
 
@Adriaan Wasn't the FLQ flag removed from questions?
 
@AndréKool no idea; I haven't been flagging questions (unless red) for a long time. Shog talks about it though
This was more of a musing thought of mine though, currently writing comments longer than the question itself doesn't raise a flag, my message here was a thought whether it should raise a flag, i.e. sort of 'should this be a FR'
 
@Adriaan I would say instant delete ...
 
9:35 AM
Why not go for the extra step and automaticly flag every question that is low length?
 
@AndréKool Why not go for the extra step and automaticly flag every question?
 
should we flag the answer there as well? Q was spam-deleted, answer is still visible (well, for >10k that is)
 
@Adriaan You can't spam flag deleted answers, you can only modflag them. I don't think that's needed.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth didn't know that. Thanks
@SmokeDetector at least they're after the whole group now, instead of only one person
 
@rene Hmm.. it would be easier. If all questions started closed, we would only need to re-open the good questions - much less work.
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9:45 AM
funnily enough that FR exists ...
 
I doubt SO will ever seriously consider doing that alas. Too much people here work on the quick-fire GMTC principle, and if that's shut down, the income of SO will go down with it.
 
10:22 AM
 
10:41 AM
@MartinJames It would be sufficient to do that for questions by <10 rep users who have not at least one answer with >0 votes. Plus cancel those nonsense association bonus ("oh, you know about pets? So you must be a good programmer, too, have some unearned reps").
 
@Olaf But then how do I post funny comments on HNQs across the network?
 
11:10 AM
@AlonEitan It's a bad question, but not unclear to me. The answer looks fine. There might be a dupe somewhere, though. Maybe a dupe of this? Seems like it should be a dupe of something, it's a very basic question that boils down to What is return function(){}?
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Perhaps. I chose "Unclear" because it's missing any context (What those parameters that are passed to the function, for example) but I have no problem to request a deletion of that cv-pls
 
Well, it's closed now so moot anyway...
 
@JohnDvorak Post more on a single site. Nicely and welcoming, of course, we don't want anyone to be hurt by pink cotton balls (I think my eyes being hurt by the colour does not count).
 
11:37 AM
@Olaf Every developer should have a dog. You need to have something to kick when your build fails when linking the last unit.
 
@MartinJames I have a parrot for that.
 
12:02 PM
@Yam Still too broad even with the code dump.
 
12:23 PM
 
@techraf Is it really so bad you have to request twice?
 
@AndréKool No, but if your network connection breaks, the script caches requests.
 
@AlonEitan I love that second "answer"
 
Morning
 
'fternoon
 
12:39 PM
@Machavity nice, the arrow points to the delete link ...
 
@rene Blue hand-drawn arrows are the new freehand red circles
 
@Machavity But... That 2nd answer probably addresses the issue. It likely is something in the HTML or CSS. Hmmm... Or there could just be a white bar in the image. *Reopens to post a new answer.
 
@Machavity as long as they point in the right direction I'm fine with it
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I was so glad they posted that. My HTML and CSS had nothing in them, which turned out to be an issue. Who knew?
 
@Machavity I love it too. Very informative
 
Afternoon
 
Afternoon
 
Any point in reopening this question I was thinking that deleting it is more appropriate - Very basic uninspiering generic question about js, not going to be usful to anyone who is able to read a tutorial/documentation
(The answer is good though, but not enough to not delete the question IMO)
 
@AlonEitan Yes, flush it. As it looks we re-open and lock all crap this month.
 
So reopen and lock basically?
 
12:48 PM
@AlonEitan Isn't unclear but definitely is a dupe (Munim found the target)
 
Yep, the dupe is correct and much better for anyone who want to learn
 
1:04 PM
@Olaf Not me this time :) just edited it somewhat into shape. I even pointed to the dupe here (and yes, it was pretty much polishing turds this time).
 
1:20 PM
@TylerH A question you closed is being discussed on Meta
 
morning
 
@gunr2171 meeting
 
aww meeting monday morning is the worst
 
> Today: You have nothing else scheduled today
^ best text in Outlook ever
 
1:33 PM
yaay
 
@Nkosi me-thing @gunr2171 has a mee-thing.
 
@gunr2171 until someone adds an invite for an impromptu stand up scrum.
 
yup....
 
@gunr2171 Or worst: if all meetings have been canceled.
 
canceled == "it never was scheduled in the first place"
 
1:38 PM
@Nkosi Mmm, stand-up
 
@Nkosi cool, let's do that now. Please @all stand-up ... don't look around, just do it ...
 
lol
That used to be my monday morning. much PTSD.
 
@Machavity Thanks. Just me? I didn't know I had unilateral close privileges already :-P
 
@TylerH Well, I assumed you were the ringleader :P
 
@Machavity Oh yeah, blame it on the last guy to cast a vote T_T
@gunr2171 time to play train simulator!
 
1:51 PM
@TylerH Good help is hard to find ;)
 
oh you sly backhanded complimenter, you
 
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Q: Do we need the [flask-mega-tutorial] tag?

James_ParsonsToday, while browsing new questions, I noticed one with a rather strange tag: flask-mega-tutorial. For the specific question, I edited out the tags and replaced it with flask and python, but it seems that it was not the only question using that tag. There's only a handful of tags under this tag, ...

 
@TylerH is Factorio close enough?
 
@gunr2171 I'll allow it
 
: )
 
2:03 PM
@halfer Maybe a language barrier, but more likely just doesn't grok the concept of SO
 
@halfer when in doubt, assume ignorance over malice
 
@Zoe how the hecking heck did that get 5 upvotes
 
@TylerH Yeah, not sure - I tried anyway, only so much time one can spend on a question before it is not worth persisting
@gunr2171 yep, agreed
 
Zoe
@TylerH I've seen tool requests with ~800. Someone upvotes it and it suddenly looks a lot better than it actually is.
 
@TylerH was asked in 2013... different rules at the time?
 
2:05 PM
@Zoe Well yeah from like 2009
2013 was a little better in terms of such things
at least from my recollection
but I was just a visitor then
I did not register until late 2013
 
i wonder the motives behind stuff like that
 
Ron
o/
 
\o
 
\o
 
Ron
2:30 PM
And the train is wrecked.
 
@Ron >:(
 
@Ron in the next room meeting we will decide if that is an kickable offense...
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I wish it would, so rude
 
Ron
@rene As long as I am not forced to do PHP.
 
LOL
 
2:38 PM
@Ron I'm not that harsh ...am I?
 
Ron
@rene One never knows. It's lonely at the top.
 
@rene Nah, you're just Dutch
 
Ron
Needles to say it's Monday which translates to lack of sleep.
Can't wait for the ruby Tuesday.
 
@Yam There is some kind of MCVE(ish), but even with comments the question is still unclear (a least for me)
 
Ron
Take care, caretakers.
 
2:43 PM
hmm I wonder if there will be a meta to make Mondays more welcoming? :P
 
My monday was pretty welcoming, started the day with cake :)
 
@Ron is a caretaker that takes care a careful caretaker?
 
@AlonEitan Maybe point that out in a comment???
 
@AndréKool Sure. Just did :)
 
@rene hope the next room meeting is soon
 
2:55 PM
@JohnDvorak you have lots of topics to discuss?
 
We should loosen the onebox policy
 
LOL
 
we should ban train wrecking
that's all
 
My guts tell me I know have to say I'm open for the discussion ...
 
@JohnDvorak Two boxes or else?
 
2:57 PM
No more cv-pls, just an endless train forever...
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When we will throw the next onebox fiesta?
 
Perhaps discuss the terms under which downv-plses can be allowed
 
Ron
3:10 PM
My rep graph has gone flat.
 
@Ron little blue pill?
ROFL
seek medical attention if it raises for more than 4 hours.
 
Ron
@Nkosi Easy to tease the sleep deprived, landlocked people.
 
side effects include......
 
Ron
With an emphasis on landlocked.
Waiting for the side effects.
 
sunburn and sand in unmentionable places is not all it has been cracked up to be. :P
 
Ron
3:13 PM
Given my skin, I would probably evaporate.
Or turn into a PHP developer.
 
I live 15 miles from the ocean. I'd rather be inside.
 
Ron
With an emphasis on landlocked.
 
lol
 
Ron
I noticed sand in the Philippines is a bit flaky, not powdery. We have powdery sand beaches in Southern Europe.
I wonder if all the (sub)tropics is like that?
 
it varies all up the islands and on which side of the island you are on in relation to the trade winds.
 
Ron
3:24 PM
I see.
 
which is primarily from the north east, given where we are just above the equator.
 
Ron
I don't know. I am somewhat used to (SE) Asia. I like China and Spore. Maybe it is time to go west.
Or go back to work ;)
 
3:49 PM
@Ron I wouldn't sign this for all south Europe. There's beaches with everything from coarse rubble to fine sand.
 
Did Jon Skeet get more swag for hitting 1 million?
 
Hello socvr. Is the following question on topic? It's about hosting and the answers are mentioning some pricing: stackoverflow.com/questions/13421488/…
 
@Cœur It seems to be asking about why some feature doesn't work on a web hosting service - the answer is "it's not supported under your current pricing tier"
 
Ah OK, thank you TylerH for the clarification.
 
4:07 PM
I don't know if that falls under the category of "tools regularly used for programming" or more under the "off-site tool/resource request"
 
@Cœur Looks like a Customer Service request
 
he took the time to take a photo on his mobile, i like it
 
4:26 PM
What do you think of the answer? stackoverflow.com/q/50801332/5468463
@Alec It was very thoughtful of them ;)
 
@Vega answer doesn't really matter of the question is off-topic for that kind of reason
by "that kind of reason" I don't mean unclear, I mean the more appropriate reason of "no MCVE"
questions containing code should do so as text, not as screenshots
 
@TylerH It seems to promote an app + a youtube for his channel ?
 
@Vega he discloses affiliation and the youtube video in question is relevant to answering the question so there's nothing wrong with that in and of itself
though the answer should probably not have been posted in the first place
 
ok, thank you! :)
 
the answerer has only been a member for 5 months so likely doesn't have the best feel / understanding for what questions are on-topic / OK to ask & answer yet.
 
4:39 PM
I see, that certainly explains
 
 
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6:01 PM
@E_net4 Shove it out the airlock...
 
@MartinJames Better not let the aliens know we're making this kind of trash.
Intriguing. Have a look at the close vote in this one.
 
:)
 
Hmm, the SOCVR effect took place. I didn't put that one in a cv-pls.
 
Voting to reveal the author.
 
@E_net4 Well, it IS off-topic
 
6:14 PM
@JimGarrison That is true. :)
 
@E_net4 Can del vote now
 
You folks can. I'm some internet points away from that priviledge.
 
plops in
 
o/
 
7:27 PM
@Ron Isn't that a good thing? :-)
 
7:45 PM
That user posted the same link 3 times
 
8:05 PM
 
8:42 PM
why does this have so many downvotes, but not closed ? stackoverflow.com/questions/17686749/…
such an odd question too
 
9:40 PM
@Alec I would like to vote to close it, but what excus.. reason should I use?
I mean, until we get a 'Mind boggling waste of disk space and network bandwidth' close-reason, there are always going to be a few bad questions that we cannot get rid of:(
 
9:58 PM
@Alec The reasons for downvoting are not the same reasons for closing a question. While it's common for closable questions to also be worthy of a downvote, not all downvote-worthy posts are closable. Downvotes are largely something that's on each person's opinion/conscience. Although there are guidelines for what deserves a downvote, the only actual patrolling of the reason for someone's downvotes is for gross violations of policy (e.g. sock-puppetry, serial voting).
Close-votes, OTOH, have reasonably clear definitions as to why they should be used. Anytime you use one, you inherently must specify why you are using it. In addition, they are something which are not effective unless multiple people agree with you that the question should be closed, and they must indicate that agreement (i.e. vote-to-close) within a small amount of time (as little as 4 days, depending on the pattern of close-voting on the question and the question's number of views).
This question, specifically, has been voted/flagged to close at least twice. We know that because the timeline shows that it went into the close-vote review queue twice. However, those reviews show no additional information, which implies that the review was never seen by anyone (or at least not acted upon), prior to the close-vote aging away and the question leaving the review queue.
As for actually closing the question at this point, I don't really see an applicable close reason.
 
10:26 PM
 
 
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11:29 PM
General question: if I see that someone has flagged an answer as NAA (by virtue of the boilerplate comments underneath it) does it help if I also vote NAA? Does that add another vote, or does it not go through the Review Queue any faster?
 
11:49 PM
@halfer Afair that's not relevant for NAA or VLQ, but spam and maybe rude/abusive. There must be some meta around.
 

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