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Ack I just realized that I forgot to mention "NATO" for mine
 
3:33 AM
Why is there an tag?
Seems like it's just begging for customer support questions.
 
 
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5:58 AM
@EJoshuaS I had a quick look at that tag. I did not see one question that was not business support:(
 
@EJoshuaS Sigh 1,150 questions. 1,085 are open.
@EJoshuaS The tag wiki/excerpt has said that the tag's used to identify off-topic questions since 2013.
 
6:30 AM
\o Ninja'd by NN
 
actually, that'll roomba
 
Looks like the whole SOBotics team needs a coffee ...
 
@rene why is that?
 
filling up our transcript with spurious requests?
I'm only taking a stab at the two of you for maybe one mistake
That is all I need to make a bad pun
 
@rene :p
 
6:57 AM
\o
 
7:32 AM
seems someone renamed after looking at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/286471/…
 
7:48 AM
Anyone know the difference between and ?
 
@AndréKool one is the package management system while the second is for any particular package...
 
@SurajRao They seem very simular to me (exactly the same info and pretty simular excerpt)
 
8:11 AM
@AndréKool Yep... That has to be changed.
 
8:29 AM
@FireAlarm belongs on meta.SO
 
8:42 AM
@Yam cosmetic edit by another user. Should still be closed
 
9:08 AM
FYI, FA has some new metric filters (such as Low Length above ^). Some more filters might also be implemented in the future. Are you okay with that @rene?
 
Ron
o/
 
@Ron \o
 
@AshishAhuja well, since @rene isn't very tall himself...
 
@AshishAhuja if it goes crazy or we then I'll ping you ...
 
@Adriaan :D
@rene it shouldn't go crazy, I (kinda) tested it.
 
9:10 AM
That is my line ...
 
user3956566
If it's seeking to know what happens to the content, then fine, but I question whether the Op is seeking to inflame topics of late
 
@Yam I still have no clue, but someone with domain knowledge might have
 
@Adriaan Sounds like a please write my code for me question
 
[ FireAlarm | Bonfire ] Potentially bad question, Low length halp me please!
 
9:20 AM
o/
 
\o
sneaks off
 
user3956566
@AshishAhuja hi there :)
 
@YvetteColomb yeah, I'm not sure what to make of it. They defended their title. I moved on. I pick another fight, another day.
 
user3956566
@rene I edited the title, as it was inflammatory
 
@YvetteColomb hey! Long time no see!
 
user3956566
9:27 AM
@AshishAhuja I know :)
 
@YvetteColomb sure, everything seems to explode these days so better be careful.
 
user3956566
@rene yep - ... no comment
 
@YvetteColomb same ... (not a comment)
this can go on for ever ...
Probably till Stack Overflow terminates ;)
That was my mean message for the day.
I'll be nice from now on
 
Isn't commenting saying "no comment" actually a comment itself?
 
It is extremely off-putting, yes
 
9:36 AM
@rene what about the flower? Their average lifespan isn't more than a few months...
 
@AshishAhuja That's only regular flowers, everyone knows blurry flowers last much longer
 
@AshishAhuja I blossom once every 60 years so don't have high hopes on me being gone in a few months ...
 
@NickA @rene then I guess my high hopes of hijacking SOCVR after the flower's death are gone... :(
 
@Sam what exactly is your avatar?
 
9:40 AM
@AshishAhuja evil plans blocked ;)
 
@rene mumbles in anger... I will get back at you, flower!
 
Sam
@AshishAhuja It's a character from a game.
 
@Sam ah, okay!
 
I'd have got away with it if it wasn't for those meddling flowers
 
@StephenKennedy Wait, is there more than one?
 
9:44 AM
@AndréKool Every time we see rene it's actually a different flower, very similar, almost identical, but different
 
Breaking news: Flower conspiracy revealed!
 
@AndréKool There's a veritable army of the things
 
My identicon could probably pass as a flower
 
user3956566
@rene you mean until the program terminates?
 
user3956566
or stack overflows?
 
9:55 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto That use of sir makes me feel old
 
10:22 AM
Is there anything I can do to speed up closing a question? (I already posted a cv-pls request)
 
Ron
@AndréKool Not really. Why would you want to do that?
Things take time. Like my lunch break. Or coffee break. Or Snickers break etc...
 
@AndréKool It's closed now (That non-english question)
I should take a break right now
 
@Ron Just asking, sometimes I get the impression some request get overlooked. Maybe better question would have been: "Can I do more/better?"
@AlonEitan My break starts in 2 min :)
 
Ron
@AndréKool I see.
I like my employer. I can take a break whenever I want. Keepin' it real.
 
I work from home, so my dogs decide those things for me
6
 
Ron
10:31 AM
Lol. Starred.
 
10:45 AM
@AlonEitan I work from home, no dogs though, so no breaks for me ...
 
@rene You should adopt one, they are great managers
 
:D
 
Working from home is great though, I can't see myself working in an office since I started working from home
 
11:02 AM
mentioned on meta ^
 
11:24 AM
Oh good god, look at these comments
 
@NickA thats a pile up
 
11:37 AM
Why can't you use to CV queue without close votes when you can suggest to leave posts open?
 
@NickA I've raged about that before: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236650/… but I lost ...
 
@rene That was 4 years ago, perhaps try again? Flowers assemble!
 
@NickA flowers assemble ensemble
 
@SurajRao no, no, no, an ensemble is an already formed group, i'm referring to forming a group
@SurajRao Flowers assemble into the Flower Ensemble!
 
11:52 AM
@NickA but ... the down votes ...
 
@rene Could be worse, it's only downvotes, not herbicide
Alternatively have a feature request for a more prominent warning when placing your last close vote in the CV queue
 
@Yam hmm, looks a lot better now!
 
12:09 PM
@MartinJames Has an edit
 
@NickA I'm pretty sure Shog9 will respond with: Can't you count?
 
@rene might sound rude
 
@rene I would star that but I don't want it being put in the list for all to see for ages gives hypothetical star
9
 
There you have it
 
Looks like my plan backfired
 
12:14 PM
Just wait until SmokeDetector catches it
OK, too many bad jokes, gotta get coffee, brb
 
Can we see who starred, or is that private data?
 
private
ROs can clear stars if necessary
 
OK, then I'll star Nick A sentence too.
 
Sam
@Cœur We were able to see that info via the websocket, but they removed it.
 
hiya @Sam \o
 
Sam
12:17 PM
Hiya o/
 
Having good lights eh ?
Tried to trigger your inner photographer but eh... maybe nowadays it's called trollin'
 
Sam
@kayess :p
I haven't done much recently, been too busy with work, etc. :(
 
12:38 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
Evening
 
Sam
o/
 
o?
 
12:40 PM
o|
 
o*
 
o7
 
Now we have enough words to build a compact version of Ook!
 
What would the correct close reason be for this question (Too Broad, Unclear, No MCVE)
 
According to me: No MCVE.
 
12:59 PM
@Yam anyone with domain knowledge here? It has a bunch of code now, but still no question statement. Can someone spot the question, edit that in so we can reopen?
 
@Adriaan well probably needs the language tag.. I am guessing ObjC?
 
@SurajRao I honestly have no idea, since all I do is MATLAB; I agree that it could use a language tag indeed
 
@Yam could be reopened..
 
@SurajRao Yay, my (lack of) reading glasses helped
 
could end up as a dupe of the linked post.. but even that one doesnt have an upvoted/accepted answer
 
Ron
1:36 PM
How do you put the colored code in the PPTX presentation? Do you keep it as text or simply whizzbang as a screenshot?
A screenshot seems like a quick and dirty solution.
 
@Ron I used this syntax highlighter for docx, it may work for pptx
 
Ron
@NickA I see. Appreciate it. As of now I am closer to taking screenshots.
 
1:54 PM
Anyone want to take a look at this question (and answer) and give me a second opinion?
 
@AndréKool hw?
I mean they could have just tested that
 
@SurajRao Maybe, the "God is great" part is making me doubt
 
2:20 PM
The right action for a question that has been deleted and re-posted is mod flag it, right?
 
I dont think mod flag is necessary.. dvs and cvs kinda put them in pretty bad situation
 
Plop everyone
 
Sam
Plop
 
Ploop
 
2:30 PM
\o
 
o/
 
@AndréKool If it happens once, maybe a comment is enough. But if the user starts a discussion or reposts multiple times, mod-flagging would be reasonable imo.
 
\o
Any thoughts on this? General Comp?
 
@SurajRao Looks like it to me
 
2:34 PM
@PaulStenne Did you plop your hair?
 
@Machavity Absolutely
 
A moment of silence of Paul's plopped hair
 
2:51 PM
question regarding an answer: stackoverflow.com/a/50353186/2958086
Is this correct?
As in, should we be providing a full working example?
 
@Compass They've just added one. I would have been tempted to flag VLQ without
 
interesting
maybe it's just me as a Java potate
 
Ron
Java is Greek to me.
 
Can confirm answer is correct though
 
Ron
@TylerH Sup with you dude? Keepin it real?
 
2:54 PM
I've yet to make the switch to Kotlin despite all assurances that it's the best thing since sliced bread
 
@Ron I'm keeping it the square root of -1
 
Ron
@TylerH Keepin' it cartesian.
 
Huh? No, I'm not a map-maker...
:-P
 
Also: That question is basically "Arrow functions 101/documentation"
Too broad
 
I think it was just an effort for the OP to share some knowledge or something since it was posted as a self-answer
 
3:01 PM
Yea, attempted canonical
rather poor attempt, though.
 
3:26 PM
@RiggsFolly I don't see any off-site request but they haven't actually asked a question so I'm going with "Unclear what you're asking"
 
Sam
3:40 PM
 
Quick question, what would cause a VLQ flag to be marked as "helpful" but would not cause the answer to be deleted
 
@MichaelDodd an edit
 
note there's also been 0 edits to the answer
 
uh dunno then :)
was it deleted by owner then undeleted?
 
Would it be on-topic to propose it for a del-pls?
 
3:47 PM
@MichaelDodd probably. but if in doubt ping the most recently active RO (Sam)
 
clocking out, cya later flower ensemble o7
 
Hum, user edited question with "log removed for security reasons". Don't know if I should rollback or vote-to-delete: stackoverflow.com/questions/20419209/…
 
@Cœur Is there actually anything sensitive in the deleted material? Is the question invalid without it? If no and yes, rollback, imho
 
4:05 PM
@StephenKennedy apparently, the top answer is using information only available from the removed log. So it does make the question invalid without it. As for sensitivity of those logs, except to say that his working environment is C:\Users\Sheng, I don't think it's very sensitive. So I guess I'll rollback
 
Is it me, or is this C question unclear? stackoverflow.com/q/50354605/758133
 
This is a strange tag wiki edit suggestion. "Xero can be used to manage invoicing, bank reconciliation, bookkeeping & more... Note that developers are more likely to use the tag xero-api". I'm thinking I should I reject it with a custom reason? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/19734299
 
@Ron Java is actually Indonesian, not Greek.
 
4:20 PM
@StephenKennedy As is I say we just burn it to the ground. It doesn't look like there would be an on topic xero question
 
@StephenKennedy 3 questions tagged "xero", and 2 out of those are already tagged "xero-api"
 
@NathanOliver @Cœur Let's do that. There's only 3 questions! I'm planning to reject edit with the msg "This site is only for questions abt programming/tools primarily used in programming. Tag usage guidance should discourage off-topic questions." Does that look ok?
 
You could just use the no improvement reject reason.
 
Or "Only tags for developers are valid on Stack Overflow"
 
@Cœur Short and sweet. Ty.
 
4:27 PM
@StephenKennedy the author of this edit... works for "Xero" apparently (check his profile)
 
@Cœur I don't interpret it in the same way, I see it as Xero is listed one of his specialities (alongside Java and AWS). Can't see anything explicit about working there.
 
OK. Anyway. tag edit rejected.
 
What tag? There's nothing there :)
 
5:10 PM
@Yam Completely unnecessary edit.
Wait, the last edit wasn't 38%. Are you lagging behind some days? Anyway, the preovious edit was unsufficient, too.
@Sam Am I correct it's you maintainung GraveDigger/Yam? In that case: is it possible it lags for some days (see ^)?
 
Sam
@Olaf Yup.
There shouldn't be any lag, the server was recently upgraded. Let's see what's going on.
 
My guess is it's reporting on the 2 post-closure edits, combined
 
@Sam Your guess? Man I love these AI things. We already don't know how humans come to conclusions and now we raise the cluelessness to the next (machine) level ;-}
 
Sam
@Olaf Yeah, pretty much what Stephen said. The edit distance is calculated between the current rev against the rev when the post was CV'd. Which means it's not necessarily the first edit that will trigger a report.
 
I'm not Sam
Just wild speculation from me. Not seen the code.
 
5:20 PM
@StephenKennedy Ehm, sorry, Not my day today.
 
@Olaf np
 
@Sam Ah, ok. Maybe it would be helpful to get this info in the message? Just to know: if there is another edit, does GR report this, too?
 
Sam
The bot doesn't display anything anywhere on how many edits have been made. But it should be relatively easy to add that info, if needed.
The idea behind the reports is to simply increase exposure for worthy posts. Which will hopefully lead someone (the CV'er) to review the question in its updated state. So I'm not sure if an edit count will be all that useful with that goal in mind.
 
@Sam Would the bot have notified the room and pinged Olaf about the earlier post-closure edit? Or is the first ping post-closure?
 
Sam
@StephenKennedy No, that edit wasn't substantial enough (only marginally though) to get passed the distance threshold.
 
5:33 PM
The percentage isn't so misleading then, provided it's made clear to humans how it is calculated. Olaf's suggestion may have some merit - "38% changed over 2 edits" would suffice?
 
Sam
Sure
 
@Sam Well, I do review the posts after these messages (which I normally don't unless pinged otherwise). I appreciate the messages. Nevertheless, afair there was no edit which really made a question on-topic. That might be because of the tags I check, though. Seeing which edit(s) the messages refer to would be helpful imo. Maybe a reply to the message could set the reference revision?
@Sam Actually the former edit (on the 11th) was much more than the minor and irrelevant last edit. That's why I was irritated to see the message right now.
@StephenKennedy Would be easier to state the revision or simply "since closure" or "since last report" (the latter only if it was acknowledge by a reply would be ideal).
 
^ this
 
Sam
Hmm
@Olaf What do you mean by setting the reference revision?
 
@Sam If I acknowldege a report, the revision the report refers to is set as the basis (reference) for further modification checks. So, if there is another edit the next report could be "xyz% changed … since revision #n".
 
Sam
5:45 PM
@Olaf If I'm correctly understanding what you're suggesting here. "since last report" wouldn't ever trigger, as the bot only reports a question once, after which it is removed from the watch list.
@Olaf Oh I see
 
shows the revision number(s) and they are hyperlinked
 
@Sam I see. How if there was an option to keep it on the list, e.g. if we reply to the report? Can't talk for others, but I normally do reply, just to let the room know if I think it should be re-opened. And I've seen others doing the same. (yeah, talking to "The Hand";)
@StephenKennedy Similar, but with both which the precentage is calculated from. If I understand it right, it's currently always the one after closure? In that case it's not required to state the original rev. just the edit which triggered the report. But consider we could put a post back into the list, that would be nice.
 
Sam
@Olaf Yeah, that's doable, but would the bot still use the same edit distance threshold when comparing the new edits?
@Olaf Not necessarily, GraveRobber compares the latest revision of the question to when the revision at the time of when the [cv-pls] request was issued for it.
 
@Sam If by "edit distance threshold" you mean the required percents changed to trigger the message: I have no idea. That would require some time to find out imo.
 
Sam
So you could get a report pop up before the question is closed.
 
5:54 PM
@Sam Ok, so it would already be helpful to see the revisions. Some questions take qoute some time to close, expecially in .
 
Sam
@Olaf Yes. Because applying the same restrictions to newer edits will probably result in little to no further reports being issued for the question.
@Olaf You can see the revs by clicking the "x% changed" link.
@Yam report help
 
@Sam So you mean to lower the threshold? Not sure, maybe it could depend on the acknowledge (but that would require some formalism). Something liek "unnecessary", "pointless", etc. could leave the threshold as is, others might lower it. I'm not sure if all this is worth the effort.
 
Sam
@Olaf Exactly.
Which is why I originally opted to just drop the question on its first report.
 
@Sam That's just the history, not which revs are used to calculate the percentage changed.
 
Sam
@Olaf Ah right. So I'd only need to state the original revision number then.
Something like, "x% changed from rev y"
I don't think there's much point in including the upper bound.
 
6:01 PM
@Sam Well, I'm fine with that and if you don't think it is worth the time, it's absolutely ok for me. I just can't stop thinking how to improve something. Just that info which revs are used to calc the change ration would be really nice. Sometimes edits are done after the report and before the report was noticed for example.
@Sam That would be sufficient to inspect the message. It just wouldn't necessarily explain the percentage reported (sonderider a small change just above the threshold, so it's reported, shortly after followed by a much larger one). Well, that's till ok, the percentage might raise eyebrows, but not really an issue.
I jkust tend to get it 100% correct always. That's why I can't do fun projects anymore :-(
 
Sam
@Olaf Yeah, I'll have to think this over.
@Olaf That's true. Something I didn't consider.
 
waddles into meta
 
@Sam Have a waffle in the meantime :-)
 
waddles back out with fur on fire
Well, that was a disappointing read.
I totally had chicken and waffles this Caturday.
 
Sam
@Olaf Waffles for everyone \o/
 
6:07 PM
it was amazing, as expected.
Did not use any maple syrup though. Watching my food intake =w=
One small cup of gravy for the chicken and the waffles.
 
@Sam Thanks, but I just had too much chocolate. I'm at loosing the fight not to waddle
 
Sam
lol :D
 
6:23 PM
It's all in Russian OwO
 
Java is being hit with poop.
 
6:56 PM
Hello, am I allowed to ask questions about why post was downvoted?
 
@Quillion Up- and downvotes are anonymous. Asking to reason is considered offending. even for comments (you can, but should expect it to be flagged). This room is not to ask for such votes at all, so it is definitively not the place to ask such questions. If someone wants to leave a comment, he will. If not. review your post.
@Quillion: Oh, and welcome to this room. Please get comfortable with the rules socvr.org have a waffle and enjoy.
 
7:14 PM
@Olaf ...
 
@JohnDvorak yes …? …
 
"Asking to reason is considered offending" is new to me and "can't ask us to x" => "can't ask why someone might have x" doesn't follow.
 
@JohnDvorak Asking for up-/downvotes is explicitly agaisnt the rules of this room. So asking about the reason for votes does not make sense (less, as votes are anonymous). And comments at posts asking to reason for a (down)vote is indeed worth a flag and normally honoured.
Btw. I intentionally did not write it as an implication. Sorry if it was not clear from the original text, I was a bit in a hurry writing
 
7:31 PM
I still disagree with the former, and I still require reference for the latter.
 
I gotcha, it is just I am noticing a lot more hostility towards a lot of questions lately. I have been around here a while so I do not care as much, however I think SO is starting to become much less welcoming to newcomers since even valid questions are usually just downvoted/voted to close without any good reason and this tends to shy people away from asking questions
 
@Quillion if your latest questions it only has 1 downvote, so that is a bit random, I don't see anything wrong with but since I'm not android I'm not sure about the research part.
 
That's because leaving explanation is considered offensive (thanks to the latest pro-welcoming movement) if worded poorly, and really hard to word correctly
 
@Quillion probably every day it gets harder to ask on SO, but maybe also that is natural since 90% of question already have been answered, hence the research part
 
to me that 1 downvote is fine. I really do not care. But I am diving into android and am noticing new questions get that 1 random downvote. To someone who just joined our community it might be a bit discouraging.
 
7:35 PM
Not much we can do other then vote up on good questions and vote down on bad question, meta by now is tired about this discussion (there is 100 on meta), if you like I can give you some.
 
I would disagree with the research part because if you consider it, technology is moving forward at breakneck speeds and it is natural to have more and more questions pop up. Like for example android introduced Recycle View to replace List View, however you will be sol to find any questions on Recycle View because anyone that asks a valid question gets discouraged from doing so
 
If you come up with a nice solution then yeah
 
nice solution would probably be to keep track of people who downvote
and if downvoting occurs to actually contact them and ask for explanation or have such rights revoked
 
@Quillion I was not referring to your question but in general SO really gets a lot of bad questions...
 
I wouldn't mind spending an hour each day reviewing new questions that were downvoted to see who downvoted them and then contact them for explanation why they did so, and if no proper explanation is given then remove such a priveledge
 
7:37 PM
@Quillion Shog had a meta on SE main about...
 
"not researched" is meant for stuff that would have been faster to just Google
 
@Quillion That sounds impossibile... what we hope for is that over time the great stuff will emerge
I had my Q/A downvoted when I did it, but now it's back up again since people found it useful over time
 
@PetterFriberg I hope so, just wish there was some means of knowing who downvotes stuff to figure out why it is done. I wouldn't be surprised if someone would just write a bot to go and downvote things just for sake of being malicious
 
@Quillion I think they would catch it as they catch serial upvote...
@Quillion there is an android room, you can ask for more info, but be careful asking about own questions seems kind of selfish, my advice is to keep the discussion in general.
 
it is not difficult to create an army of bots who upvote each other and downvote everything else and make it seem to be done in as human behaviour as possible. If you get enough bots you can easily create a new bot with ability to upvote with ease
@PetterFriberg I will wait until I see a valid android question that is not from me and ask about that one
 
It's pretty hard to mimic human behavior, and pretty easy to destroy those who failed
 
thanks! I only recently started being active in android, and would like to see new questions flourish since there is so much to learn!
 
@Quillion hmm mods have fairly nice tools, but yeah it is a problem on SO.
@Quillion say Hi to ColdFire and Tim from me if you visted that :)
 
will do :)
 
Anyone has any idea what kind of character encoding returns '$'\355'' when decoded in utf8?
 
7:46 PM
@JohnDvorak A reference for "it's of no use to ask here"? Actually one had to provide a reason why asking here why something was downvotes does make sense. The only refence in this context would be FAQ #10 which is very clear. The rest would be plain speculation unless the downvoter was in this room and willing to explain. In which case they normally would have done at the original post. About disagreeing: That's your very right. As much it's mine to disagree with you disagreeing ;-)
 
@Olaf clearly they're looking for the speculation
and we can provide pretty good guesses, sometimes
 
@Olaf meeh Olaf I saw the question as advice on how to improve the question and also as a general discussion on SO voting behavior, the rule is about "Please upvote me"
I don't think the discussion we had is outside of rules, but I guess we need an RO to confirm
 
@Quillion That's one viewpoint. Another, as legitimate would be the quality of questions has massively decreased over the past years. It's pretty normal the more popular a platform like SO becomes, the more bad questions like "do my homework" are incoming. As with most things, there are two sides on the medal.
@PetterFriberg It's similar about "please downvote". Anyway @JohnDvorak, too: It clearly ask for a reason for the vote, not about the question. And that's how I read it. @Quillion If you meant how to improve your question, things are different. If that was your intention (which is impossible to know), it should have been phrased more to that point. In general it's not a good idea to concentrate on particular votes. If there is a single downvote, I'd say forgtet about it.
There are as many "oh, you wrote a whole sentence" unjustified upvotes on this site.
 
@Olaf uh... you have to learn to read between the lines... if it even is there, and not on a line
 
@PetterFriberg "not the place" does not mean "outside the rules". It just means it is pointless to ask for a downvote reason (see above for more). Anyway: Pizzahh!
 
7:56 PM
@Olaf I read your comment as saying that they weren't allowed to ask. Clarify next time please.
 
@JohnDvorak Well, you can't expect all readers to read between the lines. Ecxpecially as there are a lot of non-native speakers. That's why one should phrase a question clear. (and I'm very aware I have the same problem sometimes)
 
@Olaf I mean, it wasn't even a cryptic reading. It was the obvious reading once we know he knows we can't read minds, which is a pretty safe expectation.
 
sorry guys, I didn't mean to cause chaos
seems like that is what it did, and the particular downvote on my question was simply the catalyst to ask opinion here because as I have mentioned in android tag I have seen some valid questions with one to two downvotes, that's all
 
@JohnDvorak They are not allowed to ask about donw/upvotes. The rest does not follow from that. No need to read between the lines. Next time, I'll leave such questions to you.
 
@Olaf wat
 
8:01 PM
I will take my questions to android chat and see if they can shine light, will just have to wait for a good android question that is downvoted, shouldn''t take long
 
@JohnDvorak It's funny you tell me to read between the lines and don't read on the lines for my posts. That. And here I'll leave to enjoy my pizza.
@JohnDvorak: Seems I was right and they are not asking why the question was downvoted, but downvotes in general. @Quillion: If you have an issue with downvotes in general, best would be to take it to meta. Just remember to do some research if there already is such a question and pad your point with arguments.
 
@Olaf will do
sorry again guys for any conflict I might have caused here
 
@Quillion A discurse is not a conflict. And it's fine to have different points of view.
 
Not really, if "points of view" represent what's supposed to be official guidance
 
8:18 PM
@JohnDvorak … or text comprehension. It is purely you making up the "asking here is against the rules" part. All I stated is it's not the place to ask if one wants to get a reasonable statement for a particular downvote. As it turned out now, it's not about a specific one (which was not even under the lines, less between), but a meta question about DVs in general. I'd appreciate not to have put words in my mouth or free interpretation of my statements. Thank you.
 
@Olaf It's how I understood you, and it's why I'm asking for clarification
 
8:38 PM
I wonder if "balances" trips SmokeDetector. Why that??
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I had this already ^
 
@Olaf sorry!
Maybe @Makyen script coulddetect already posted requests and tag them as ?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, now you got all of the applause for that cv-pls. ;-) That cost you a good … well, which alcoholic drinks do you have?
 
almost all of them :)
Does Perrier qualify ?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That would require a bot afaik. But it sounds like a reasonable idea.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre YOu have Perrier with alcohol in France? Fascinating …
 
8:46 PM
Yeah, we regularly get slapped for posting many times the same request.
@Olaf Add some Suze or Campari to Perrier: done
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Nah, I don't slap. Just informaed you. I got the habit to ready the visible part of the transscript at least, most times up to the bot report. Most duplettes stem from them.
 
I didn't mean you.
I meant "petal slap"
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Idk Suze. And Campari is already hard to drink with orange juice. with (whatever kind of) water it's just awful.
 
matter of taste I guess. You have to like bitter. And you like bitter since you're watching SO questions all day long
 
Talking about sparkling stuff: I take some champagne (the true one, not that sparkling wine replacement)
 
8:50 PM
Champagne works too.
Turns out that I'm out!
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Lol, that's just the normal masochism of a freelancer doing dirty job once the money runs low. But for taste I normally don't like bitter, at least not in larger dosage.
 
no need to freelance to be bitter. Big company employee qualifies too.
 
9:11 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre or small or medium ...
 
9:23 PM
@Olaf I should bounty you 10k rep so you can delvote my requests :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre If you mean the Unclosed Request Review script, then, yes, it could do that for those currently displayed. Currently, depending on what was used to post the requests, the requests may have the same URL for the question, which will result in the URL being blue in both, if you've already clicked the link in the earlier request, but this isn't universal.
For the request generator, it's planned that it will inform you if a request has already been made for a question, but that is not yet implemented.
 
Damn I couldn't wait to post them, and they're 20k+ only...
@Makyen yes. If you feel it's easy to do, then do it :)
@Olaf last week holiday was really nice. Then work came back.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre And I thought it was me being impatient to have crap go away. But no, I want to earn the rep the honest way (i.e. hardly ever;-)
 
@Olaf I was joking of course. There's no way I'm giving away 10k of hard earned cucumbering rep even to you :)
What is sure is that there's not much rep to earn in the tag.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre That makes two of us:-) I should spent you some sour cream or jogurt dressing
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Checking my rep history, I'd extend this to "but a lot to loose".
 
9:28 PM
:) Given that I have C gold with 1000 something now, I guess that I more or less (repcap/accepted answers aside) gained 10k rep with C. Not more. for a whole 2 years cucumbering
 
Although i mostly stopped downvoting cucumbanswers ;-)
 
There's a good C question every now and then, like once a week...
On wednesday, at 3:30 AM :)
@Olaf I never downvoted more answers than those last weeks.
but it's not very useful when the answer has 5 naïve votes.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I must have miseed them regularily.
 
I can dig the last one I saw. Let me search.
(not a close request!!)
 
9:39 PM
Is this question on topic? Spam? Any wordpress afficionados? It doesn't look to be about programming.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Looks like "server administration" to me.
 
9:59 PM
@Olaf: thanks
 
10:37 PM
@MartinJames Ah, you're still there. Haven't read from you much recently
 
@Olaf Yeah - trying really hard to not get suspended for responding to ass.. assembled collections of newbie-appeasers.
 
@MartinJames Lol, me too, me too. But I did not just mean SO. Sorry I still have no better news and most unfortunately don't expect much anymore.
 
@Olaf Oh well.. :)
 
@MartinJames Yeah, "too god to be true" is not an empty phrase.
 
 
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