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01:42
@KenWhite Did I miss something or why do you post three requests for the same question?
Sigh, Ted again
02:00
@Olaf @MikeM Argh! Didn't intend to do so. Must avoid CV-PLS while on the phone. Sorry.
 
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07:41
RO please remove this cv-pls - OP rephrased the question.
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o/
@MartinJames You are an early bird.
@Ron The early bird catches the rep:)
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Haha.
..or, more likely, these days, gets to the end of the day having not wasted any cv/delv allocation.
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Indeed.
Going for the gold with multithreaded?
It would be a pity if you didn't.
07:54
@Ron Not as a priority. A dupe-hammer would not be a huge advantage in there. I would prefer an actual hammer to use on those offering cargo-cult advice, solutions that are inappropriate, over-complex and/or actually so wrong that they can never work:)
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@MartinJames Noted.
Morning \o
@Ron One big problem with [multithreaded] is the massive amount of FUD that is spread around by developers whom, it often seems, have never actually written any multithreaded apps at all or, having tried it once and found a bug, vowed to never try it ever again and to put off as many other developers as possible with wailing pronouncements about deadlocks, race-conditins and priority-inversion:(
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@MartinJames I hear that. Such a pity.
08:09
@Ron ikr. It's like NPE's. Who cares? If a pointer is null and you try to dereference it, your app blows up, it's obvious where after a bit of easy debugging, and it gets fixed. It's like some kind of irrational fear sets in about some aspects of programming, 'nullophobia', maybe:) Same thing with deadlocks - why worry when it's blatantly obvious what is happening, (or, more correctly, what is not happening:).
08:20
@techraf Done.
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09:17
@MartinJames What I find particularly interesting is the game industry. Developers working in game development often think they've found the "one size fits all" solution and are not shy to preach that to everyone.
And this is nowhere more true than in C++.
@Ron I believe you:(
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I tend to avoid CPPCon game industry speeches. I even had the misfortune of working with a guy who was involved with Mame at one point. B* artist.
He claims to have managed the project at one point. No expertise whatsoever.
@JohnDvorak Either I run into a bad apple company or Prague companies pay peanuts to C++ developers.
Norway is cool, after some tax breaks for foreigners you are left with 4 - 4.5K net € per month.
 
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10:33
Just got asked "what part of my code should I look at"?
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10:58
What's with those 48hr unpaid tasks as part of the pre-screening process? Who dreams up that?
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11:52
Either SO is detached from reality or reality is detached from reality.
Seems to be the latter.
@Ron huh? did I miss something?
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@SurajRao I was approached by some shady interviewers who dropped a bbm on me and told me to complete it in 48hrs. So I was wondering where was the elegant code the SO talks about.
12:39
can someone flag VLQ? stackoverflow.com/a/48786622/4826457 OP invalidated my flag by delete - undelete
@SurajRao I flagged as NAA.
12:51
@internet_user Please be more specific.
13:47
Morning
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o/
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\o
14:01
\o/
S.O.C.V.R. D.I.S.C.O!
And congrats to our latest train-wrecker @SurajRao : (
14:15
@GertArnold If we close and delete the question it takes care of the answer as well
@NathanOliver Ah yes, even better.
that can be done now ...
got rene'lized
@kayess Valentine's Day Massacre :P
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@Machavity lol
14:19
lol
Imagine today when I get home: darling, happy valentines day! here I bring you this.. uhm.. flo... ehm... rene
@kayess I've voted to close that question as it's not a question
It's like "adasdasdas" so may worth rene'ing it from orbit
Hi all! o/
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14:39
o/
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Woops, my bad. Was not intentional, I'm sorry
It's alright. E_net4 had already broken it :P
14:47
@NathanOliver er... yeah it seems to me that he is just asking for code?
IDK. I don't know if he wants code, an algo, or a library.
So it's unclear
I liked nuclear way better
@NathanOliver all of those things are technically code
Tell him to ask Jon Skeet how to do it in C# and close it
@Machavity That depends on how you perceived the pattern. :P
But I admit I had some difficulties. What would've been next? \o/?
14:51
I think your edit got it right. Left-inverse-right-inverse so left was next
Well then...
SOCVR: Giving you Miller Analogy Tests secretly disguised as trains...
SOCVR: Some Odd Chains of Validated Replies
@Machavity is that what those things are called on IQ tests
@NathanOliver he updated the question and responded to our comments
he wants code dump or library
@TylerH Sweet. That makes it easier to want to close it
14:58
@TylerH Yeah. They're of the variety of A : B :: C : ? And then you pick from 1. D 2. Nathan Oliver 3. ++ 4. Jon Skeet
@Machavity Jon Skeet is always the answer
@NathanOliver Correct
@Machavity : :: ? seems to be an invalid iif()
@kayess It's valid because it contains Jon Skeet
15:02
@Machavity oh my bad
Is this too broad? It's documented on MDN stackoverflow.com/questions/48789969/…
@NathanOliver What if the question is Jon Skeet?
@TylerH that it's a self answered question
morning
@TylerH It's still Jon Skeet as he is an expert in himself.
15:06
@NathanOliver Does the set of all Jon Skeets contain itself?
@E_net4 No. It is impossible to contain Jon Skeet
IDK, Jon Skeet would know though
@NathanOliver Which came first? The Jon or the Skeet?
@TylerH We suppose at least one of his parents is Skeet.
Hi: I was just pinged to update a library recommendation I did... back in '09. I did update the answer, but I think by today's standards the question should be closed: stackoverflow.com/questions/1810372/…
15:09
@NathanOliver What if the answer is Chuck Norris?
@MatthieuM. Ohay. Yes, it looks off-topic to me.
> Jon Skeet is always the answer
@E_net4 agreed
15:24
Are we making a train of o/, \o in the starboard now? I see 3 of those messages already inside the starboard
@Ferrybig Not at this very moment.
/\/\o/\/\
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@Compass The carp is that.
DON'T JUDGE ME.
@Ferrybig Startboard !
15:26
@Compass Yeah, we all love Mom
@kayess I don't see a typo, :-P
@Ferrybig Waffles :)
Happy Singles Awareness Day!
tears the scratching post out of the ground and starts swinging it around comically like a giant hammer
@Compass Guilty.
15:51
@rene Okay, I have commented on your gist.
I may have edited my comment a few times... but it is complete now
@TylerH I'll process it shortly, thanks
I tried to include enough of the phrase in each quotation so that it's easily Ctrl+F'd
and it is all in chronological order
If I get confused I'll ping you
sure thing
70 FREEDOM DEGREES. IN FEBRUARY. melts
16:03
@Compass ?? you mean Farenshite?
hiss
@Compass where?!
It is 50F here in Georgia
next week in DMV
why are you measuring the temperature in the Department of Motor Vehicles?
I thought it stood for Deadly Moose Villages
16:11
@gunr2171 If you measure temperature as the movement of the particles inside the system, 1 DMV is probably fairly close to 0K.
Yep, a few months ago I had to renew my driver's licence. I sat in a chair for 2.5 hours.
That looks like a valid test. Most driving is done in a chair. Being competent at sitting is a requirement to be met before a drivers licence is issued ....
I honestly think you should have to retake the test every time you renew
there are so many terrible drivers in the US
I think cars should have black boxes that record driving data (they do) which can be used to prompt a driving test of varying difficulty/stringent-ness (for lack of a better word) based on the data
There are so many terrible drivers. Full stop.
16:20
I also think a bounty system would be fun and a good source of tax revenue
give every car a dash cam like is popular in Russia
turn in footage of cars breaking the rules, etc., like failing to signal, running red lights, driving down turn lanes, and that car owner gets ticketed and the person who turned in the footage gets 5% of the ticket amount
or one of my big pet peeves, not driving with their lights on in the rain
I'm honestly surprised that car companies are not mandated to link their headlights to the state of the windshield wipers by now
it should be fairly straightforward to link them mechanically; if the wipers are turned on, headlights automatically come on
The bug has been found. It is located between the seat and the steering wheel
I'm all for self driving cars
let me reclaim my commute time
Heck, with LED lights just have the lights on always. No fuse, no muse.
@NathanOliver most new cars have something similar in Daytime Running Lights
I don't like it though, personally
mostly what I don't like is my car's light control design, which puts DRL as the first option in a set of options for lights
Off, DRL (auto), driving lights, headlights
I think the auto thing should be a button or selectable separately
but what I really hate is the trend of some models to put the blinker in the same bulb as the head/brakelight. I viscerally hate that
It's not so bad for the brakelight but if it's night time I do not want to lose visibiilty on half the road just because I am changing lanes or turning onto a new road.
@TylerH Yeah. Some still don't though. I used to have a car where the lights were always on. You didn't have to touch the light switch. It started getting dark, the dash light would come one. The headlights and tail lights were always on. The only way to turn them off was to be in park with the hand brake engaged.
16:29
@NathanOliver that sounds inefficient
@TylerH Totally Agree with that. I've seen cars with one light burnt out so it looked like they were turning without hitting their breaks at all.
but yeah, with LEDs, wouldn't be so bad, burnout wise
With running everything else running in the car you'd never see the fuel consumption
 
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17:33
@BaummitAugen Helium is solid at 1 DMV.
I don't know if they design cars at random, these days. Anne's Picasso has an LCD instrument panel that cannot be dimmed and destroys your night-sight if on - safety hazard. The same, wonderful, vehicle also has artfully contoured back lights that are supposed to look good, but the concave surface cannot have ice scraped off it, so another safely hazard in winter.

I'm fairly convinced that tpday's car designers have lost it completely:(
@MartinJames I'd agree.
@MartinJames Wow, would not have expected that much pressure there. :)
17:48
@BaummitAugen ..only on peak tag-renewal days.
18:44
@TylerH gist updated.
@MartinJames Anne's Picasso sounds like the name of an art galleria
or a cafe
It's very interesting to me that there are so many car brands that are not even marketed or sold here in the US
I was glad to see Fiat start selling cars in the US. I would like to see Pugeot here as well
You guys missed out on the best invention ever - the hot hatch
@TylerH Well, sometimes there are choc bars or maltesers in the 'hidden' campartment under the floor mat. I think the Anne is starting to suspect that I'm eating them, (a suspicin that ia actually correct:).
@StephenKennedy no we didn't
we have had at least a dozen cars over the years that are hot hatches here
most recently I think the Honda Civic R
@MartinJames time to find a new hiding place...
@TylerH So - you are a self-employed auto electrician?
18:51
@MartinJames no I work for a hospital system
@TylerH Ah that's good news. What was the earliest hot hatch that was imported to the US>
I only learn what I can about the car I drive to do basic and some intermediate maintenance
@StephenKennedy well I dont know about earliest
I know you didn't get the 205 GTi. What about the Golf GTI or Lotus Sunbeam?
ford focus hatchback has been around for at least 10 or 15 years
@TylerH Well, I guess that those brands may generate more work for hospitals, sure.
18:52
Golf GTI is in the US
I stand corrected! :)
Lotus I think only sells Elises here
Sunbeam and original Golf were 1970s
but the Sunbeam is sold here (or was) under Chrysler
here's a short list if you are interested cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/best-hot-hatchbacks
(for the US)
I am interested, thanks
18:54
Hmm I would not count the Juke as a hot hatch though
it's more of a mini crossover utility vehicle
oh and I forgot about the Ford Fiesta
my ex girlfriend drove one of those when we were together
got pretty good gas mileage for US cars
40mpg
Never had a Golf. Had a Polo as a hire car once. Went well enough, but it has been in a 'minor shunt' the week before and the front wheels were out-of-line with the back. Unfortunately, it was the only car available, so we had to drive the crab for a week:(
@rene can SEDE show more than the top 20 CV reviewers of all time? Are users' total number of queue votes exposed?
My roommate actually drives a Mazda 3 hatchback right now
but it's temporarily in the shop because he somehow didn't see the big yellow bollard at the gas station and swiped it pretty bad
=w=
That yellow bollard came out of nowhere and hit him.
Rude.
right?!
Unfortunately he lost the lawsuit
@TylerH reviews are anonymous. At best you can find who closed the most questions, that does require scraping/parsing so don't have high hopes
18:59
on account of the bollard was facing the other direction
@rene dang
I'm curious to see how far I actually am from the top 20
e.g. how many people there are between them and me
I know you can see some stats ad hoc (when you look at a review item you can see the review stats of some people in certain queues) but you can't be sure you get everyone
I feel like the number for spot #20 has been at or around 15k for a while
Which is only about 4 or 5 months of concerted reviewing effort away for me
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"Hello. Any help is greatly appreciated."
@MartinJames Go with Hyundai. Highly recommended.
Chrome is telling me that NATO is in Maltese, and offering to translate it. Weird.
@Ron ACK, nearly bought an i30
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@MartinJames Great car.
19:17
(O,..,O)
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Even that deprecated Hyundai Getz was an awesome city car.
@Mogsdad NATO the organization or NATO the system for detecting answers?
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19:49
Would you accept a 2 days worth of pro bono work as part of the selection process?
Or rather a pre-selection process?
This is something an interviewer offered you?
@TylerH It's a slimy practice:(
I just want to know if I should tell Ron no or not..
@Ron Accept the project and then write it all in ArnoldC
@TylerH WhIt makes you think a care a fig for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?!
19:56
@Mogsdad s/a/I/
Better?
@Mogsdad Well played, sir
hehe
you missed 4
@Machavity Went to the page, found "FiM++ is an object-oriented programming language based on the My Little Pony television show."
OH MY GOD COME ON YOU GUYS
19:58
@gunr2171 congratulations, you are now a brony
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
for only 5.99 a month you can also gain access to the higher tier of "furry"
This offer is opt-out
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@Machavity Haha, that's awesome. ArnoldC FTW!
opt-out plz!!!
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Q: We want no further [interaction] with this tag

data princessI've noticed several different kinds of questions with the interaction tag. There are 531 questions with this tag, and no tag wiki. Uses span the following areas: Many (probably a slim majority) have to do with building statistical models, and are really referring to variable interaction, or th...

20:00
You know, SOCVR has a lot in common with My Little Pony. All our problems are simple, people want magic worked, and almost everything can be solved by closing the episode
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@TylerH No, you didn't SPECIFY 4.
@Machavity I......I have nothing to say in response to that.
@Mogsdad Connect 4
@TylerH 4X4
16?
20:03
Wait, that wasn't a train? Awww.
I love how when I unsubscribe from an email mailing-thread/advertisements, I get another email saying, "You have unsubscribed"... You don't have to tell me that. I'll know if it was successful when your next frequent email comes in
Is an answer that is code commented in Elbonian NAA?
@Mogsdad no, it's VLQ
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@Justin Every newsletter should have an unsubscribe option. If they don't you can report them to the authority or abuse department and have their email client blacklisted. I don't know about the feedback though.
Is there a way to link to a question in comments so that I don't have to write [Title of Question](https://stackoverflow.com/q/<post-id>) every time? It's getting to be a pain to have to copy both the link to a question, then go back to copy the title of the question (which is a link, so it's harder to copy).
@Ron Yeah. I just think it's funny that I click on "unsubscribe" to say, "I don't want anymore emails from you," so they send me another email to confirm that I unsubscribed. -_-
20:07
@Justin yes
links to Stack overflow questions autocorrect to the title of the name in posts and comments
or they should, at least
I know for a fact they do in questions and answers
I believe they should in comments as well
They don't for me. It shows https://stackoverflow.com/q/<post-id>/<my-share-id> when I paste that into comments. It works for answers though
Oh, are you clicking the "share" link?
or copying the question URL?
I was clicking the share link
try just the question URL ending with the question ID
20:09
Nope, doesn't work in comments.
I was told the title etc only appear if use the script github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/… Anyway it's worth having, makes csv-pls a lot easier
@Justin bummer
@StephenKennedy I'm not making cv-pls, I'm commenting on someone's question to link to other posts that might be helpful for them. Or other posts that are possible duplicates
@Justin Oh sorry
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20:11
I got 11 rep today. Sup with that?
Anyone have a link to the meta.stackexchange post about the special links like [help], [edit], and the link?
My googling is failing :(
@Ron Downvoted answer deleted?
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@Machavity Isn't that -2?
@Ron If you downvoted it, it's -1 to you. And it won't show up in your history if the answer is deleted
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@Machavity Ah right you are.
20:13
@Machavity if your answer got downvoted, it's -2
if your question got downvoted, it's -1
ah I see what you mean
@TylerH questions are -2 to asker, no change to voter
instead of 'if you downvoted it', I read 'if you got downvoted'
I know they were no change to the voter but I thought they were -1
oh well
we should make them all -100
@Justin Found it; they're called "magic links" instead of "special links" meta.stackexchange.com/a/94000/218012
@TylerH How sad. There was already a feature-request that was declined.
That's on MSE... you could try on MSO
plus it was declined by Atwood 7 years ago
good chance others might be more willing to do it
So it's not bad to bring a feature-request back if it was denied a long time ago?
And why does it matter whether it's on MSE or MSO?
20:20
well MSE is for the whole network
MSO could ostensibly be just for SO
plus it's a different group of people (with a lot of overlap)
the difference in time and audience could net a completely different response
I hadn't thought that this feature I want would be just for SO, though. But I think it does make sense to try MSO
at the very worst you would get a decline from someone still with the company today with hopefully better reasoning than what Atwood gave (which was debunked immediately in the comments)
@Justin Well SO is a completely different scale from most other sites
Yeah
a lot of features exist just on SO
it might not be worth it for other sites that only get anywhere from 0 to 1000 comments a day
SO probably gets closer to 10,000 comments per day
who knows... you'd need a dev or CM to respond with a reason not to do it, citing actual programming costs
@Justin @TylerH @StephenKennedy There's a userscript: SE Comment Link Helper. When you click "Add Comment" it auto-formats bare question/answer links into [title](URL).
20:28
@Makyen Thank you. This will save a lot of time in the evenings. It should still be part of SO though :P
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Stack Exchange should hire Wesley Snipes to combat all the vamps.
... There was even a recent feature-request with no response from a dev or CM.
@Ron He will not last long. The vamps will get him for tax evasion
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SOCVR - When Wesley is taken.
Is there some other name for that foam cheer glove? The one with the pointy finger.
@Ron they are just called foam fingers
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20:43
@TylerH Awesome, thanks.
Potential mild heat developing in comments under this one. I feel it's better if it's deleted as requested above. The question is approaching absolute zero.
21:12
Gah. Got a declined flag after a "me too" post got edited into an answer before the mod reviewed the flag. Grumble.
Time to whine on meta
Grab the pitchforks.
@Ron Aaah.. a 1 DMV question.
Wrote up a LOOOOONNNNG meta enumerating all the various ways I've been victimized and taken advantage of! I'm never gonna give it up.
@Justin I decided to post a feature-request anyway: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/363395/1896169
21:25
@SardarUsama We should reply to all such 'which language' Q's with somethng useless, eg. 'Use Haskell'.
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Excerpt from the "Justice League" movie: -This is home. -You smell good. - Did I not before?
Tough audience.
Is this off topic. Its getting a lot of downvotes, but seems a programming question?
Unclear, apparently.
@JakeSymons completely lacks context
Dunno anything about the tech myself, but looks like that's probably right.
@MartinJames Too obvious. "It's a pre-mician Magratea subvocalisation of Gnarfnung. If you want to know more, do some research on your own." That should take them some time to decipher.
... gotta love that someone could jump in late with a duplicate answer and get upvotes for it.
@Olaf First time ever that 'Haskell' and 'obvious' appear in the same thread.
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@MartinJames :-)
21:50
@Justin I agree that it would be nice to have as a feature for SE. However, I'm very pessimistic as to seeing SE actually spend the developer time to implement... well... almost anything.
For any FiM++ Fans: this.
22:20
> Also, what is the 6, I have no idea what that is.
> 6 is a number.
The gems of . XD
inorite
Out of CVs and normal votes for the day :-(
gah, the guy just snuck past the Protected barrier of that question at 11 rep
@TylerH Well, for my part, 'I have been researching for that problem for many hours, and didn't find anything' gets it a dv
22:37
@JakeSymons There's a whole site for that - so off-topic / other site would be a more helpful close reason.
Waffles™
@Mogsdad Aw, was just about to rat you out to the ROs. No, wait...
Yeah, leading by example, blah, blah, blah...

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