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12:00 AM
It's not like they try very hard with audits.
 
@TinyGiant ....aaaaand a few songs later...finally climbing out of that rabbit hole you sent me down. lol. A Rickroll would have saved me a lot of time. lol.
 
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@Nkosi Lol
 
Forgot how I even ended up in there, but then came back here and clicked the same link again and got my answer. lol. short attention span FTW.
 
@Makyen Thanks. This looks promising, but common. 0.o
Appears to have worked. What UX. XD
 
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12:14 AM
@Nkosi lulz
 
@TinyGiant I forked your Natty controls for Guttenberg and Beli. Once I get edit rights, can I just list you as the author or do you want me to add some "adapted by" disclaimer or sth.?
 
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@BaummitAugen That's fine
 
He just wants your money ...
 
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I believe I put a license on my repo, hold on
 
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Apparently I picked MIT
 
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12:19 AM
Whatever that means
 
@Mogsdad I did think that this room would be a better place to post my comment, but I was using an iPad. iPads and chat don't get along :( I also didn't realise that the comment was an auto-comment. I thought it was one of your own canned ones. Next time I'll leave myself a note or simply ignore it.
 
Hm, that should probably be in the Sobotics repo, too, then. XD
Just asked because adding my name for a bunch of copy pasta looks rather stupid, but I don't want to out some US "in your mouth" without asking.
 
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All good
 
Cool, thanks.
 
@Makyen I can't be sure that the audits always add/substitute-in the filtered tag, but it has happened in all the ones I can remember. Just a couple of hours ago, I got two audits while filtering on in the CV queue and for both of them the tag was added.
 
12:33 AM
@robinCTS Yeah, I had thought that it did. I've just noticed multiple times in the last several days when filtering on that it hasn't been added. Maybe I'm noticing it more because the the questions are so distinctly different.
 
@Makyen I'll keep an eye out to see if/when it happens to me.
 
1:25 AM
CVQ primed again. Refer to helper page.
 
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Being chastised for deferring to the language specification for a more in-depth explanation.
 
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Apparently other people don't find the ECMAScript Language Specification to be overly readable.
 
1:43 AM
Time for sleep. Bye! o/
 
@BaummitAugen Don't let the caterpillars bite. \o
 
 
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3:22 AM
Good night to all, and to all a good night
 
3:56 AM
The cleanup is finally getting to me I think... if I see one more post recommending Doxygen, I think I'll lose it. I've never tried the tool and I already hate it.
 
 
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7:20 AM
How does a 140K+ user post a useless comment to an absolutely "do my homework* post that says In what language? get +votes to that comment?
 
7:30 AM
@SmokeDetector Confirmed. Foul, offensive post.
 
 
 
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9:29 AM
\o Morning
 
 
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11:58 AM
Yup. I've just about had it with 'buffer[1]' and '*(&a[i--]++)' questions now.
 
12:35 PM
He's back! What a good Christmas gift
 
1:14 PM
Is there a valid close reason for this php like lake of basic knowledge C# when updating the previous entries all the data are duplicating
 
Just got me the Some kind of Sun Thingy hat =]:-)
 
@DragandDrop Could be "no mcve". If there are multiple errors, I also use "too broad" or "unclear". Users are expected to understand a specific and correct answer to their specific question. If they don't this tyically results in duscussion/help-vampirism.
If you notice that, leave an according comment and retreat.
 
1:48 PM
morning
 
@gunr2171 o/
 
o/
 
\o
 
2:40 PM
@Nkosi licensing/legal actually
 
@Olaf should I have gone custom?
 
@Nkosi Maybe (I did), but don't unvote, that should be closed asap.
 
ok cool.
 
There's a question on Meta about this so I figured I'd ask here. What do you guys say this edit does?
 
@Machavity No improvement?
 
2:45 PM
@Machavity The OP used wrong markup and it looks like the editor is trying/attempting to fix that
It still looks like it would have been an image only question anyway (No MCVE)
 
We're going round and round about it. He insists he wasn't in-lining the image, just making the link visible.
 
Question for you guys. I have a user who (now is serial downvoting me), for rejecting a bulk of his suggestions, mostly because they are insignificant and just change certain words to bold, etc... He's squeaking by because the new system allows 2 votes to approve, as well as OP accepting because they think it's a good edit. I've tagged a moderator, and he appears to have gotten a review ban, but now he's back at it.
I'm not mad or trying to target him specifically, I'd just like to educate this user. Should I just let the mods handle it? I'd like to try and teach him/self improve.
 
@Machavity It still does not make the question more on-topic. Code shall be in the question text, no image, no link.
@FrankerZ Something I still have to learn: give up. Dumbness is resistant to good arguments.
 
@Olaf That's my point to him exactly. But he doesn't believe that's what he did. He wants to think he just made an invisible link visible. Can't seem to get him to see the forest for the trees
 
@Machavity Place a grizzly into the forrest and wait what happens;-)
 
2:52 PM
@Olaf s/grizzly/ninja dog
 
@Machavity Or that, yes.
 
Ron
o/
 
\o
 
@Olaf I figure he'll give up when he hits that 2k reputation cap for edits, I just feel like most of the edits he's doing in the meantime are just wasted edits, with needless bumps. Frankly I'm surprised that more people in the queue aren't rejecting more.
 
Ron
@Nkosi Just you wait. We are going to have a (sub)tropical climate here too.
 
2:57 PM
@Ron :) lulz.
 
@FrankerZ Too many people seem to think there's a "negative attitude" on SO and so they counter it with overly generous upvotes and approvals
If you're standing in their way then you must be one of the "evil" negative people, and the Justice Downvote League must stop you
 
@FrankerZ Hmm, you know how many bad/OT questions are answered by cucumbers and still are surprised of bad accepted edits? Your're really an optimist, aren't you? ;-) (For borderline edits I check the reps/number of edits of that user; if they're low, I tend to accepting, otherwise to rejecting. The higher the reps, the better edits should be.
 
3:12 PM
At least they were honest about it being homework. lol
 
Is anyone going to the SOCVR Roomba-day party tomorrow?
 
@EJoshuaS No, but I got you a gift. A close vote. It's brand new and not regifted. You're welcome.
 
Excellent, I could always use more of them... I keep running out.
 
3:29 PM
@Olaf We shouldn't award garbage. Educating users to good edits, by Declining => Editing, has been my system for trying to educate them.
Posted a meta here.
 
Hey all
Discussion question: I came across a question today on a topic I've answered before - and I'm confident my solution would work here. New question is better worded than the old. Old question has no upvotes, only my answer (1 upvote) - not accepted. What's the best action for me to take?
 
@FrankerZ I didn't say we should. It is just that discussions with such people don't lead anywhere.
 
@Olaf It leads to improving them, or review bans
When users see +2, they think that what they did helped, even though it probably hurt the site
 
3:52 PM
@FrankerZ I'm sorry but when I started doing edits, I skipped the questions that only needed a code formatting (few line of codes) because I knew my edit would be rejected. In my opinion, THAT hurts the site, because code well formatted is easy to read and to understand quickly.
So rejecting an edit because there's not enough work done is really not a good rejection cause. I understand rejecting small part of code formatting edits when there's a lot of other errors in the post but not when there's only the code to edit.
 
@krlzlx I don't understand how a "few line of codes" could make the post substantially more easy to read/understand. If it's bad enough to make your eyes hurt when reading it, then absolutely, submit those changes, and I'll approve them.
 
@krlzlx They are not rejected per-se. But a single, minor edit is simply pointless and does not improve quality a bit. What might be rejected are edits to questions which have much more severe problems than just the formatting of the code. Edits on such off-topic questions just provide no improvement, hence they should be rejected.
I think you put it too simple.
 
@FrankerZ Thank you but I don't need your approval ;) But if you can read 10 lines of code without indentation the same way you read a well formatted code, then yes you're right.
 
4:08 PM
Please someone, inform and educate stackoverflow.com/questions/47928342/…
 
Alright Closes and Closettes Marry Xmas and HNY! I'll be off till next 2nd of jan \o/
And btw HNY != Happy New York : P
 
4:23 PM
thx - can't edit anymore.
 
I've found 17 (maybe more...) questions all asking the same thing, with none of the answers particularly helpful. I could write a canonical answer to one of them, but I think they need to be closed as duplicates first so that it is easy to find. Is this the write place to help with this? Here's an example of one of the questions (can provide the others if needed): stackoverflow.com/questions/31785902/…
Or should I make a meta post?
 
It might be better to find the "best" one (might be the best worded or most general, or the oldest or one with most points) and start closing the rest with that target
I don't think a meta post would hurt
 
@tburrows13 Developing a canonical is more appropriate in the room for the specific language (e.g. Python), and/or from a meta post. What I've seen from other meta posts is a suggestion to get people in the language specific room involved. Basically, creating a canonical requires significantly more domain-specific knowledge than this room is focused on. You'll have to choose if you want to use a current question, or make a new one. Making a new one is often suggested (on Meta).
 
^ what he said
 
Ok, thanks. I'll create a meta post about it then.
 
vandalized then deleted?
meh
 
@gunr2171 Maybe he was having trouble naming it
 
@gunr2171 But first it was deleted, then undeleted, then deleted, then undeleted , then vandalized and deleted. :-)
 
I think we need a few more cycles
@Machavity at work, looked at a few still frames around the timeline, not sure I want to watch it
 
It's nothing bad (well, beyond jokes)
 
 
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7:02 PM
 
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8:56 PM
@AnttiHaapala If it's not too much of a bother, can I get your input and answer for part 1 of day 18 of Advent of Code 2017? I can get the part 1 example working but can't get the actual puzzle correct. If I can get a longer example to test against I'm sure I'll find my bug.
 
@gunr2171 I've put them all to my github, except for some days that I never cleaned...
and 18 is among those
 
awesome, thanks
 
... so.. a sec...
 
@gunr2171 it is because I destroyed my part 1 while doing part 2 :F
 
9:01 PM
and really all I need is the input and the answer, not the code
 
thank you so much!
 
Here's solutions of folks from room 6 (mostly in Python): sopython.com/wiki/Advent_of_Code
 
crud, your input is the same as mine......
uh, guess I'm debugging this the hard way :(
 
lol
@gunr2171 did you notice this: jgz 1 3
 
9:14 PM
on line 34?
 
I should be handling that fine
 
at first I almost fell into a trap of just using a dictionary for the registers, it would have made a register named 1 with value 0 :P
 
I always sanitize the input when checking "values". If you are number use the number, if you're a letter look up the register value.
 
Hi all! o/
 
9:16 PM
o/
 
o/
 
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o/
 
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it's a trainwreck... that will later be cleaned up
 
9:24 PM
So will be physical trainwrecks
 
 
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11:07 PM
Go, Joshua Go!!
@EJoshuaS Did you see the "Pinky and Brain" mention ;-)
 
11:22 PM
> Rum command prompt as Administrator
Not sure what that means, but sounds like a plan. =D
 
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