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00:44
This appears to be an audit, but I don't get why it was (apparently) deleted. It seems to be a valid attempt at answering the question, even if it is short.
01:01
@AndrewMyers It is not clear if that is the problem of the asker. The answerer should have asked for clarification in a comment. If that really was the problem, the question should be closed as be "cannot reproduce" (I can't judge, I'm more with Monty and th snake and not web anyway).
01:55
@TetsuyaYamamoto That question has been closed.
@Hover Opinions?
@Sam Yeah. NullPointerException the most attended duplicate for java tagged questions :) (ping me if you mean me please BTW) — user0042 4 mins ago
02:33
@AndrewMyers It was deleted from review. However, it has one "Looks OK". I was under the impression a "Looks OK" would disqualify it from being an audit. The LQP queue can result in deleting things which are not strictly within the definitions of what is not an answer. In other words, in the LQP queue, the system is following the recommendations/votes of the reviewers, who may not be voting strictly based on if it's technically an answer.
02:44
Is it bad mannered to post a comment on a highly voted answer noting some problems to it for the purpose of linking your own answer to the same question?
@Justin I found this MSO post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/348203/…. I hope it address your problem.
Thanks @TetsuyaYamamoto . Guess I won't do it. :/ I legitimately think the top-voted answer gives good, but misguided, advice and that mine is better, but I'll just let it play out
@user0042 Thanks. :-)
@KenWhite It's like fighting the hydra ya know :D
02:55
@user0042 Yep. And yet we keep flailing. :-)
Wow! What a bad night for rubbish no-effort homework:(
@MartinJames Yeah, and I'm worried to go to bed right now :P
@user0042 It's like they've noticed that copypasta gets closed immediate as 'too broad' and have started rewriting/transcribing the questions, but badly so they're closed as 'Unclear';(
@Justin I suggest you avoid embedding your answer link to existing answers, let community decide its helpfulness instead. Just don't add noise to good signals :)
@MartinJames It's much like "I'm a programmer and my job is to make things idiot proof, but the universe makes it to produce idiots faster!"
^ Seen that on a tee, I probably want to buy ...
03:44
m.erwaysoftware down?
It's much like fighting zombies: They're creeping slowly towards, but you need to be sure to shoot their heads off.
@PraveenKumar I dunno ...
Uh... Okay...
@PraveenKumar I meant the overall situation rather :P
@PraveenKumar It's not up for me. Time to check in Charcoal HQ.
03:47
Yep.. It is.
@Makyen @PraveenKumar So, of course, just after posting that, the site responded.
:D
Still no...
Someone have a "gimme teh codez" question that I can vote on? ;)
@EJoshuaS Just wait a 6-8 seconds ...
04:02
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Excellent :)
@EJoshuaS never disappoints :)
Yeah, has been rather fruitful lately too - it has a lot of horrible questions
It really should be blacklisted, I just haven't gotten around to writing a Meta post
Let's start them with a question score of -5 and have that s**t shoveled away wih the roomba script.
I'm off to bed. Let the apocalypse take place :P ...
04:33
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Q: Should this tag have been [generated]?

Andrew GrimmThe tag generated has 169 questions, but no wiki. The tag doesn't even make enough sense to me for me to be able to address whether it's suitable. Should it be burninated?

05:02
> The first post in request stack is already deleted by OP.
 
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06:47
@SmokeDetector question looks like it can go to SF; but Im not familiar enough.
07:03
Why was ^ user blacklisted?
@TheLostMind metasmoke is broken.. even Smokey is not working correctly
@TheLostMind mind looking up one SD report as well? It looks similar to one you closed this morning already; it looks like it needs to be closed, but I'm unsure as what
@suraj - Ah, I see. OK. Thanks
@Adriaan - I am merely curious to know why the user was blacklisted. Yes, I will try looking up at some SD reports later today
@TheLostMind I just meant this one, the latest-but-one ;) It asks about a hosting problem, which you closed another SD report on an hour ago, hence I thought you might know what to do with it
07:16
@Adriaan - Looks like I need some coffee. Multi-tasking does take a toll on one's CPU :P
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 6 mins ago, by tripleee
Metasmoke instability continues, harming Smoke Detector (incl autoflagging), userscripts, and etc. We are unable to take any quick action, but are considering our options. If you have clever ideas, please add them as a comment on issue #257
@TheLostMind sounds reasonable. Let me help:
!!/coffee
@Adriaan brews coffee for @Adriaan
there you go TLM
lol. Thank You!!
 
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Zoe
Zoe
08:44
@VadimKotov I'll check it. Thanks
There are only 3 off-topic questions (they are closed) left for [tag:imac] -- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/imac
Please help deleting these, so we can get rid of this tag
 
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11:11
@tripleee cv on an answer? NAA flags are btb not more effective when >1 is cast
actually I wanted to get your judgment on the question as well, I guess it's dubious but acceptable
@tripleee yea, I read the question and got confused by the amount of pictures, but they seem to convey the message, as it's not really a code-issue (if I read it correctly), but it is a programming related tool
user3956566
11:27
omg I love it when people take your feedback and learn
user3956566
makes it all worthwhile
Morning
Plop everyone
morning @PaulStenne, plop @NathanOliver
o/
Google Pixel 2 event today \o/
11:46
You all celebrating kanelbullardagen today?
@Adriaan of course!
bulle-
12:09
@Adriaan is that with beer?
@Adriaan A holiday for cinnamon buns?
@rene It's Swedish, so probably yes
@NathanOliver not a day off, but a national celebration, yes :P
OK, I'm celebrating then
I encountered it when living in Luleå, and I got kanelbullar everywhere for free, without having any idea what was going on :p
@Adriaan WHAT?!? They don't give you a day off to eat cinnamon buns ;)
12:12
When I entered the uni building that day, friends of mine were handing buns out, so suddenly I was handing out buns and hearing Swedish all day without understanding a thing :D
I kept the tradition alive when I moved back, so every year on 4 October kanelbullardagen it is
a kanelbulle is just korvapuusti made wrong.
They smell so good, they just got out of the oven <3
I have a korvapuustipäivä every day in my avatar.
corvette push to powah
@kayess lol, if you used google translate for that pronunciation you also got the very apt translation
12:20
@AnttiHaapala you mean East-Swedish buns? :P
:D East-Swedish province of Back-Finland.
@AnttiHaapala my GF studied in Helsingfors last semester, and me having studied in Luleå for a semester really ruined the mood there since I spoke Swedish everywhere and addressed everyone in Swedish
@kayess you're from Hu, you should start a new tradition, kürtÅ‘skalács-day
We have "animals day" on 4 October. I like kanelbullardagen better, although a proper steak is never a wrong this
@Adriaan yea, and in English you should say "Helsinki". :D
@NathanOliver "kiitos" is the Finnish way, "danke" is German ;)
@NathanOliver Andres Cardenas Pardo had 153 edit suggestions approved, and 22 edit suggestions rejected
I might be able to remember that.
wonder how much quality is that
@Adriaan tack så mycket
Tack själv!
12:33
@AnttiHaapala rofl! good idea
how's that non-Latin?
@Adriaan no idea
Something about [![Table Screen Shot][1] ][1] made smokey trigger
non-standard whitespace?
Or is Smokey still acting up?
@Adriaan I've asked in charcoal
Ron
Ron
12:53
o/
Ron
Ron
No C, no QT since today. I put my foot down.
Get to PHP
Ron
Ron
SO users are aware they should not mix C and C++. Looks like some industries didn't get the memo.
Is there something wrong with chat servers?
@Ron Could be lagged
Ron
Ron
13:03
@Machavity Seems to be the case for SE Europeans.
13:40
The good thing about when someone downvotes your answer due to misunderstanding it and commenting about it is that you get to address their misunderstanding. Here's hoping they read the response!
13:51
@Zoe I disagree with this request; questions about how to do something in a programming tool are on-topic, and this one seems reasonably specific (how to associate 'Java' with 'XML' in Android Studio for all instances instead of just some)
14:20
@NisseEngström Code added. CV request can be deleted.
15:51
@SotiriosDelimanolis the rommba will catch that
16:55
This weeks' C-tag 'most annoyingly-repeated homework question that is not amongst the known/usual list of annoyingly-repeated homework questions and where the newbies have no chance whatsoever of getting working in any effective manner' is 'File transfer using UDP'.
@MartinJames that's going to be real hard to put on a trophy plack
@gunr2171 Yeah - I should have just stuck with 'annoying' ;)
17:08
@Machavity That OP is Furkan crazy.
@MartinJames Cruising for a ban
@Machavity Seems like he tried to edit that answer 5 times
I just left a comment for him suggesting that he accept the correct answer
@NisargShah Mod warned him 22 hours ago...
I suspect, given how basic it is, that it's a homework question
@Machavity I'm not a fan of either but I know the difference between Python and Clojure. I hope his prof's anti-plag scripts get him and he's thrown off the course.
How do you know that? Does it appear somewhere or a 10k privilege?
Okay... I saw the comment
17:12
Yeah, we can't see most mod actions. But comments are visible to all
17:24
@Machavity THe question is OT anyway ^. We are neither a tutoring nor coding service.
@Olaf That a/c now named 'Jonathan Cedric'?
And edits chainging the question after there are answers are against the rules, too.
@Olaf Btw, even if we closed it, he will keep editing it and pushing it into the reopen queue
I flagged it as 'This OP is out of control' :(
@NisargShah Flag for mod attention then or find 20ks to delete. Afaik only mods can lock posts.
@MartinJames Thanks, that saves me from another declined flag ;-)
17:28
@MartinJames ROFL the user just changed his name
It should be locked as it was, with the original question and original account name.
@Machavity Someone should learn the rules. Wouldn't be surprised if there are some sock-puppets.
@Machavity Yeah - frantic to avoid prof scrutiny:(
@Olaf lol
Strange, a mod already locked the post, but community unlocked it.
17:31
@Olaf Temp lock. SOP for content disputes
Ron
Ron
Rise of AI.
Hmm, in the 4th edit he asks to delete the question. Now I'm against deleting. Just close and lock.
@Machavity SOP?
@Olaf Standard Operating Procedure
we have one?
@Machavity Ok, but why unlocked? It already was obvious OP vandalises.
@rene If SNAFU is a procedure, we do.
17:34
@rene Yeah - @Olaf always has his flags declined.
awesome
@Olaf lol
btw @Olaf were you able to cast CV's when the flag ban was active?
@NisargShah Flags and CVs are not the same.
Why? Do you intend to get a flag-ban? Must be some masochists thingie ;-)
Hmm, reading the answers, I somehow understand OP prefers a Python solution. That reminds me of the 90ies when I had to learn basic lisp shudder
17:42
@olaf lol nope
@NisargShah "How do lisp programmers catch an elephant?" - "They build a labyrinth of parentheses and wait until the elefant gets lost in it."
"How do Ruby programmers catch an elephant?" - thay can't; by the time they get round to trapping it, the elephant has died of old age.
stackoverflow.com/questions/12694588/… would this warrant a spam flag for not talking about that being the poster's website or not? Heard spam flags are kinda severe
@MartinJames "SALES PEOPLE don't hunt elephants but spend their time selling elephants they haven't caught, for delivery two days before the season opens."
17:48
@AnttiHaapala Looks pretty clear to me.
@LW001 IIRC span flags take away 600 rep or something when 6 of those are found helpful against someone...but that guy has 21 rep...so he's not going to be at -579
@NisargShah they remove 100 rep
das a lot
but the lowest a user can go is down to 1 rep
Nice thing with the younger generation is they all don't know the good ol' jokes. paws.kettering.edu/~jhuggins/humor/elephants.html
@LW001 No, because he discloses his affiliation to that site.
17:50
now that its edited
I left a comment reminding the user
safe to move on probably
thanks
@TylerH Still low quality.
@Olaf No PHP joke...I'm disappointed
@NisargShah Just google, there are dozens of sites for "how to * an elephant". I know there is some with PHP. That's a clasical joke about programmers, etc.
17:54
Hi everyone o/
"Windows programmers aren't ever able to hunt elephants because elephants
are afraid of mice."
@user0042 \o
LOL! The multi-edit question is back to Python again. I've flagged it, but there we are:( Revision 12..
@MartinJames Are you sad or laughing? :D
@MartinJames So who's turn is it to roll back?
17:59
@NisargShah I'm hoping that the mods are just letting it run to accumulate evidence.
@NisargShah COL or LOL?
@MartinJames How much more evidence it required?
@Olaf COL?
@NisargShah Crying …
I don't know whether to roll it back yet again.
After all this shows people should not answer crap questions.
18:02
Economists don't hunt elephants, but they believe that if elephants are
paid enough they will hunt themselves.
lol, @Olaf rolled it back. OK, I'll do the next one.
@MartinJames Oh, I thought it was my turn anyway? Shall I roll back my rollback, so you can roll back? (Were's my back roll?)
@Olaf Tempting to say yes.. but I can wait:)
@Olaf Or Martin rolls back your rollback, and I rollback the OP's rollback?
@NisargShah nmompf - want some crisps?
@MartinJames: Your turn!
18:05
rofl he edited it again
@AnttiHaapala OP has edited to replace the image with actual code
@NisargShah Welcome to join the game.
Done it.
I also mod-flagged it now.
@TylerH Still no mcve. Hell, If I got one ct just for every C questions assuming a pointer is an array.
18:10
@NisargShah That's at least two flags. The mods must be up to somthing...
@MartinJames Make it three, I flagged after the his last edit.
@MartinJames Maybe they were waiting for Olaf
@Olaf That's very brave of you!
@MartinJames Oh, well, I can take the risk. My last declined flag was more than 7 days ago.
Short question:
18:13
@user0042 That was a very short question
The answer is 42
@user0042 The asnwer is: your glasses are right on your table, near the beer
I tried to invite a user here before via their chat profile. But there was only the ministry available for selection. What's the problem?
Jokers :P
18:15
@j08691 - Know you haven't been around here lately, but I wanted to get it back to you that you were totally right in your comments here: stackoverflow.com/q/46570217/19679 . Only saw that because flags were piling up in the comments, but if you catch something fishy like that in the future, let us know via a custom flag. I was able to clean up a bunch of accounts / garbage at the same time as a result of your inklings about what was going on there.
@user0042 Can you provide a MCVE?
@BradLarson I knew you lot were up to something!
@user0042 Where do you even have an option to invite to a specific room?
@Olaf Try to invite this guy. Do you have the same problem?
@NathanOliver From any users chat profile usually.
18:18
@user0042 Yes, only the ministry shows up. Maybe this room has invotes disabled for us mortals?
@Olaf I also suspect something like this.
Maybe one of the RO's knows better @Nathan?
@MartinJames Looks like they finally suspended the user for 24h. Be back tomorrow for rest of the fun. :P
@MartinJames I gave them a day off, since they seemed to ignore Ed's polite warning. They keep doing this when they're back, flag again and we'll escalate. I am pleasantly surprised that no reviewer approved one of these edits: stackoverflow.com/users/6331156/jonathan-cedric?tab=activity
I get the feeling this may not end with the suspension.
or @Brad Do you know?
@BradLarson It's unfortunate that the original account name cannot be rolled back too.
18:22
@user0042 An alternative would be to open a new room and post the link of SOCVR. Workaround, but that leaves bunch of rooms over time in your profile.
@Olaf Well, that's a workaround. But I'm more interested about the reasons.
@user0042 Ping a RO
@Olaf I already did so :)
Isn't @Nathan RO anymore?
@user0042 From his profile, I'd say he is.
@BradLarson Was odd that both his answers had pending edits. Was a shame I was right that they were vandalism. But only mods can see his failed edits apparently (empty for me)
18:27
Sorry, back
@NathanOliver It's just fine to go AFK for a break on the loo ;)
Or coffee. Or waffles
@NathanOliver how so? Far from clear, or actually it misses MCVE.
@Machavity Or some ice cream. brb
@Machavity I'm hoping he's not going to kick me for that :D
18:31
@user0042 Nathan is pretty straight laced. gunr promised non-stop RO meetings if he wasn't
@Olaf Yeah, I don't know C so I was just letting the CV requester know to check it
@user0042 I don't have an option at all for invite: i.sstatic.net/Trck6.png
@AnttiHaapala I can get behind no MCVE but it is clear IMHO
There goes the rest of my Amaretto. Onto chocolate ice cream.
@NathanOliver I can see both of my "favorite" rooms in a dropdown, but can't see SOCVR despite it being a favorite
@NathanOliver then no MCVE. Because there are several reasons that I can think of.
18:33
@NathanOliver I strangely enough only SOBotics on my invite list: i.sstatic.net/WwGmz.png
@NathanOliver Strange. Maybe some room founder thingie?
@Olaf Mind sharing what your seeing with the invite part?
@NathanOliver you can invite a user to a new room
but you can't specifically invite a user to an existing room unless you move one of their chat messages to that room; that will cause the system to send a 'you've been invited to X room' message to them
which means you must be a RO in the room where their chat message was posted originally
@rene Is that from a user script?
@NathanOliver As I'm in the ministry, too, I see an option to invite a user there. For users which are already in the ministry, I don't see any option to invite into any room like your's
18:35
@NathanOliver No, I have it too (and I don't use UserScripts)
@NathanOliver Interesting. Meta SO question?
Maybe it is caching from where you last talked
@NathanOliver nope, at least not that I'm aware of
so many pings
@NathanOliver I heard you needed some pings. You're welcome
@TylerH Well, thats no fair
18:37
@rene I certainly last talked here when I was trying (think the same applies to @Olaf)
You can see the list if you are in a chatroom and the user you are viewing is not in that chatroom
And the user I'm guessing must also have enough rep to talk in a chatroom
Does not require RO permissions
@user0042 Jupp. The ministry is silent since 12 hours
@TylerH I never seen @Francoishere, and he's not pingable as well. And certainly has enough rep ...
Here's what I see on rene's chat profile: i.sstatic.net/dJsOX.jpg
@NathanOliver disabled all scripts and now can confirm: No, it is in the html payload
@TylerH what does my profile say for which rooms I'm currently in? You are in 3.
18:40
@TylerH Simple question: Do you have an option to invite that user? All criteria you listed are given for that user
@rene it's not strange it's to only official room on SO by now :P
@PetterFriberg so true
TB or POB?
@rene I see two.
@rene You can only invite to rooms you're in
18:43
@rene SOCVR and SOBotics
If I leave all other rooms I can't invite at all. But if I join another chat I can invite to that
@Machavity Well, I'm currently in here, no?
@Machavity So why does he only get invite-options for SOBotics, not SOCVR?
@Olaf Which user?
@TylerH @rene
18:44
@user0042 No, you are not. It is all in your imagination --- whoohuuhuhuhuhu. You are not here ...
@user0042 I don't think he means rene; I literally just posted a screenshot of my options for inviting rene
@rene Dang. I'll have to file a support request then
@Olaf I blame caching
@TylerH I got the context wrong, sry
@Olaf Yes when I visit chat.stackoverflow.com/users/7359094/fran%C3%A7ois-andrieux I can invite him to JavaScript and HTML/CSS/WebDesign ; I can't invite to SOCVR
18:45
@user0042 It excludes rooms you have in common. I don't get an SOCVR invite option for rene but I can invite people in the other room here
@TylerH The one we originally talked about chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39452923#39452923
headbutts the ottoman
@NathanOliver i.sstatic.net/IMRg2.png also here SOCVR does not show up
DIOS MIOS
never headbutting that ottoman again
@Compass Erdogan? He's more for buttheading
18:47
@Machavity So why he's not pingable here (@Francois), and their chat profile doesn't yield any frequent or current room?
Nope, just a normal leg-holding ottoman
@Machavity always fun, reverse engineering a simple feature that smells like it is over-specified. What was @balpha thinking ...
But it is not a room setting, because I can invite rlemon to SOCVR: chat.stackoverflow.com/users/829835/rlemon
@PetterFriberg I don't have the invite user in there either
afk
Sounds like someone should ask on Meta what the rules are for determining what shows up on that list
18:48
@NathanOliver above 60K you lose the privilege to invite users to rooms
@NathanOliver ^ For an icecream :)
I know what the Ottoman empire is :|
@rene you're joking
I played the Ottomans in Age of Empires 3.
All I built for them was Janissaries.
18:48
@Compass Sorry, couldn't expect that!
150 Janissaries, who I sent to the enemy base to build barracks to produce more janissaries to replace the ones that fell in combat.
@TylerH When was @rene ever joking?? :)
@NathanOliver hmm Mac is right it excludes SOCVR since we are both in room, rene I can't invite anywhere.
Hey guys, say you have the following overly simplified scenario:

Q: "How do I get Foo to *always* do Bar?"
A: "Do X, then set Y to true."

Then you (year+) later see:

Q: "How do I get Foo to *never* do Bar?"
And the answer can simply be: "Do X, then set Y to false."

Is it dup, or just related?
but I can invite Kayess to SOCVR :D
18:50
\o
@OhBeWise I don't grasp what you're even asking about?
@PetterFriberg you can invite me anywhere you want, I'm your blind follower, and you know that
@OhBeWise seems like related to me, but you better pass the real questions
@OhBeWise just related
@PetterFriberg That's not the question you're looking for. waves hand move along
18:51
@OhBeWise Y==false may be a 'do sometimes' state.
ok, related is what I put
I bought some more sunglasses
Am I addicted to sunglasses now? Probably.
@user0042 back in the days ....
@PetterFriberg Yes, let's make a table who can invite which user to which room. Maybe we find some correlatation. Start with "a"
18:53
b
@Machavity Hmm, a new Star Wars movie on christmas?
@Olaf Train wrecker!
darn we could have the possibility to have alphabet train
d-railed
18:54
and ofc we messed it up
@Compass Do they work better than articicial tear drops and petroleum yelly?
@Olaf The Last Jedi
@OhBeWise Nice :)
@Machavity I'd even watch it it it really was. But somehow I don't think so.
@OhBeWise meeh comment, maybe duplicate but I can't judge, I feel that you can pass an answer on that using related to other question but with changes. Hence answer with link to other answer explaining what they need to change.
18:56
@Olaf the jelly is actually fun to apply
@kayess Would just casue trouble with google.
Someone should have nick here OhBeNice
Anyone want to know what's written on my today's tee?
I pull my eyelid down
I scribble some jelly onto it
And then I release my eyelid and boom, 20/200 vision for the next 8 hours!
@user0042 I closed 50 questions today and all I got was this lousy t-shirt
18:57
@PetterFriberg Yeah, I erred on the side of caution, so everyone's opinion here is confirming my thoughts
@Compass whats 0.1 vision is ?
actually not quite 20/200, probably close to 20/80
@Compass You have a strange idea of "fun". (wait, where do you apply it?)
my right eye was 20/20 the day after
it got a bit worse because of inflammation and dry eye but i can still read most things
where do I apply the jelly? In ma bafroom.
@user0042 Mine had "Earl Grey" written on the bag.
18:58
@Machavity Not even remotely, but more general: "AFTER TUESDAY EVEN THE CALENDAR GOES WTF"
@OhBeWise since your other answer is short, you could almost copy it just changing the true to false, seems better for future users they don't need to follow link
@Machavity Hey, I never got a t-shirt!
@Olaf rene mailed you a packet of flower seeds. You didn't get them?
@Machavity Nah. It's the wrong climate for cotton anyway.
19:11
@user0042 never
unintentional setting the pointer to null ^
@Olaf Those seeds are not cotton;) The same plant food as for tomatoes works well.
@MartinJames Hmm, well, I have a black thumb anyway. youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU
19:27
The following bookmarklet will add SOCVR to the list of rooms to which you can invite a user. However, at least for the case where the user is already in the room, it will fail with an alert()saying that the user is already present. In other cases, the alert may provide info as to why the option isn't present. Bookmarklet: javascript:void($('#inviteForm%20select[name="RoomId"]').append('<option%20valu‌​e="41570">SO%20Close%20Vote%20Reviewers</option>'))
hi o/
Successfully educated a user on the fact that SO is not a forum \o/ today is a success
Nice, one down, 1E6-1 to go ....
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19:45
@Makyen Nice, but I still want to know how it's natively working :P
headbutts the refrigerator
@Makyen I appreciate your help providing tools. However, the actual question is why we don't see SOCVR in the normal invite-list like other rooms?
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