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7:00 PM
@AjayBrahmakshatriya If you actually use Azure then that's not very much in the way of credit
every little bit is nice though
 
@TylerH I can sustain 2 3.5 GB hosts. The bandwidth with Azure is cheaper as compared to AWS
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya And certainly easier to understand than AWS, too
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya just remember those credits can only be used for non-production items.
 
@TylerH Ditto! I used AWS for 2 years, and I still cant figure out what Data Transfers to hosts in "another Avaiabilty zones" are
 
Azure is the Wal-Mart of hosting. Literally
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7:06 PM
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Availability zones are regional data hosting areas
you can move between them to prevent your site going down if you're in, say, a zone that experiences major flooding regularly
or if there's a major outage and all the hosts in that zone go down, you don't automatically get picked up by another zone... you're just down
 
@TylerH s/major flooding/wrath of God
 
@Machavity "F this data center in particular"
 
@TylerH Oh, I see! Why would they charge for moving data on their own network
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya because they're a business that exists to make a profit
 
@TylerH Ofcourse!
 
7:08 PM
@TylerH Was with The Planet many years ago (Softlayer now) when they had a catastrophic event (transformer exploded in their DC). Not long after I think it was Ike plowed into it and they were fine
 
AWS guys were friendly though, Used to waive small charges here and there.
 
@Machavity are you in the Texas area still?
 
@TylerH Sorry, meant hosting-wise. I've never lived in Texas.
 
ah
 
@gunr2171 Non production in the sense?
 
7:11 PM
I'll never forget that tech call. "Our sites are down." "Yeah, we know." "It's bad isn't it?" "Yeah..."
 
dang, I kinda wanna ask this question on SO but I feel like it's a bad one
 
puts hand on the cv-pls button
 
cuts the wire
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/member-offers/… first item in the FAQ
 
@gunr2171 I guess that is fair. My usage is minimal though. Just a few services running.
 
7:19 PM
yeah, shouldn't be much of a problem
I've had VM's running for multiple days without any problem
 
so when's Tuna migrating home again
 
@TylerH 6 to 8...
 
srsly, is he still on vacation?
It's been like 8 months
 
man, I'd love that vacation
 
@TylerH it's a SO vacation, not a real one.
 
7:26 PM
@JohnDvorak 8 months.. then it's more like vacation while in love.
 
@gunr2171 Friends have mentioned using it for ML stuff. If that worked fine for them, simple services should be fine
 
@NathanOliver ah
well no one told me that
the past 6 times I've asked
 
If you're really in love, eight months isn't enough. You need nine at least.
 
.. or a vacation while in chokey.
 
eh, still better than choking for 8 months
 
7:29 PM
Well, at least the cubs stopped choking after a hundred some odd years ;)
 
@JohnDvorak They neglected to tell him that a trip to a 'Correctional Facility' was not a highly-paid debugging contract.
 
A correctional facility that involves eight months of choking??? Address please.
Not that I want to stay there. Quite the opposite in fact.
 
'Prisoner 09346, farm, licence plates, parcel packing or PHP?'
 
I take parcel packing. As long as I get gloves to prevent papercuts.
 
@JohnDvorak ..and when you get out, you have Amazon credits.
 
7:34 PM
I'll take those
 
7:52 PM
I'm getting laser eyes in 3 weeks! owo
 
those aren't lasers, they're little light bulbs that blink
 
Unless you mean that certified people are going to shine laser onto your eyebulbs for the sole reasons your own eyes are beginning to fail and they want to put in a piece of plastic that bends the light in the same way as the backup plan?
 
8:13 PM
Evening all! o/
 
Ron
o/
 
@YvetteColomb đź‘€
 
Ron
8:38 PM
Probably the latter.
@BaummitAugen Tree, sup with the college?
 
@Ron Fixing stuff, finding new stuff that doesn't work. XD
So business as usual.
How's the jobhunt going?
 
Ron
Not without challenges ;)
Apparently my refusal to answer trivial math, struct wiring and reversing an array questions tend not to go well with the interviewers.
 
"reversing an array" seriously? 0.o
Are you applying for volunteer high school tutor or what? lol
 
Ron
@BaummitAugen You would be amazed as how much interviewing is broken.
Or maybe it's my bad luck.
 
8:47 PM
/\/\/\o
 
Ron
@NobodyNada Hello.
 
I mean I've seen funny interview examples, but that's just silly.
 
Aren't those just to filter out the people who have never written a line of code in their life?
Like FizzBuzz -- it's supposed to be easy, as long as you're actually a programmer
 
Ok, if such people really do apply...
 
> The vast divide between those who can program and those who cannot program is well known. I assumed anyone applying for a job as a programmer had already crossed this chasm. Apparently this is not a reasonable assumption to make. Apparently, FizzBuzz style screening is required to keep interviewers from wasting their time interviewing programmers who can't program.
 
8:57 PM
Oh my...
> If you can successfully write a loop that goes from 1 to 10 in every language on your resume, can do simple arithmetic without a calculator, and can use recursion to solve a real problem, you're already ahead of the pack!
 
Ron
Haha
 
I'd totally get caught in a philosophical discussion about List<Fruit>
 
(1..10).map{|i|puts i}
 
for (auto i : {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10})
    std::cout << i << '\n';
 
loop 1 to 10.... please?
 
Ron
9:00 PM
What ever happened to idioms, best practice, dos and donts, and the language itself? These questions are non existent. The stuff you actually need.
 
Better not risk anything, does what it should for sure. XD
 
^ when asked nicely, computers will do the most amazing of things
 
def putsSeq x; return if x <= 0; putsSeq (x-1); puts x; end
 
@FĂ©lixGagnon-Grenier Yep. I mean.. look at Skynet :)
 
Haskell: main = seq $ map printLn [1..10]
 
9:03 PM
;)
 
And Jan... what happened to your name?
 
throw new NotANiceProgrammerException("Unexpected end of file, could not find 'Please'")
I need to included that in my next api --^
 
Ron
@BaummitAugen A recruiter confessed to me there is a big big shortage of C++ developers in NW Europe. I think they are partially to blame.
 
@NobodyNada ooh, nice :D, I need to switch to that!
> rejection by the compiler: if "PLEASE" does not appear often enough,
 
9:14 PM
@Ron Haha, I hope that shows on the paychecks. =D
(Moar loop over-engineering, interview preparation. XD )
 
Ron
Horrible stuff.
I guess 1 on 1 talk with an expert interviewer is the only way to go.
 
9:46 PM
@BaummitAugen 'and can use recursion to solve a real problem'... erk! OK, fine, I've used it for folder tree searching, but not much else. Most 'better using recursion' stuff is usually in libs.
I mean, other than directories/files, who uses explicit recursion, and for what?
 
True, it's rarely needed.
I use it for recursive math functions sometimes but rarely, if it's not trivial to turn them into a loop and performance is not too important.
 
@BaummitAugen Other than the folders, I can't remember ever using it, (except for 'fun' SO answers - int to string things:).
 
I use it sometimes when iterating over a tree-like structure
 
@MartinJames I had to recursively go through layers of atoms in a crystal until I was "deep enough".
 
The only other 'notable' use of recursion I can remember was this huge display manager thingy called, unsurprisingly, 'display()'. The author had found that, during testing, one particular looped function was taking too long and the rest of 'display' was getting held up. His solution - call display() in the long loop:((
@BaummitAugen That sounds actually reasonable:)
I seem to remember describing the display code as 'tragic' in a progress meeting. My contract was not renewed;)
@SotiriosDelimanolis LOL, 3000-line java function;)
 
10:10 PM
@MartinJames wow time for him to install sonar ;), that function would get a nice complexity score...
 
Off to bed early for once. :)
Cya! o/
 
m2 cya!
 
10:29 PM
Sounds like a plan.. nite!
 
11:20 PM
@Makyen done
and the other one also
 
@Fred-ii- Thanks. Yeah, the reportuser didn't work quite the way I expected. I expected SD to pick up of the user's currently existing Q&A and post reports for each. That didn't happen. Looks like I should report each one. I'll ask on Charcoal HQ what I should be doing, but currently it looks like it's best to reporteach one. Although, it might be that SD was restarted right about then.
 
11:44 PM
Does this look like spam? stackoverflow.com/a/44973917/5764553
 
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