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1:03 PM
^ or possibly a typo, after reading the comments
 
@Cerbrus The 2 users have not had a bad review history. If there's one more bad one, They'll be banned. :)
 
Apparently tor was never actually anonymous at all until now: bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/…
garden variety overflow chain attack that leaks everything about the user of the tor browser accessing a webpage
 
@BhargavRao 1 of'm has never rejected a review
 
Yep
They've skipped all the bad ones.
 
Can I flag a spam?
 
1:10 PM
except for this one :P
"we see everything" :P
 
@Cerbrus Hey, But if you find one more, link-pls. :D
@TetrixUser sure, please go ahead if you are 100% sure.
 
@TetrixUser what do you mean?
 
Just kidding :)
 
anyone thinks we should revert this duplicated? stackoverflow.com/q/15788709/792066 I find the title is more descriptive.
 
@Braiam I think it is fine as it is. Nice sign post
 
1:15 PM
@Braiam Eh. I like the link to the HTML spec in the other one.
But they both seem to have the same good quality
 
I find the MDN easier to read, but ok
 
@VanquishedWombat I think the question you where talking about previously has been re-opened and there is also a meta about
 
Morning
 
probably NAA, but not spam
 
1:22 PM
@Braiam But there was a hot question today with that as well, did you see it?
 
@Tunaki nope
my questions never go hot on SO
 
My questions never get answers.
 
maybe because you are too cool
 
> 'Invalid checksum for {}: expected {}, got {}'
yup, that's very informative!
 
1:28 PM
haha
 
@AndrewLi My answers never get questions ...
 
1:49 PM
@Glorfindel sad :(
 
JAL
morning all
 
Hiya JAL
 
JAL
not sure if that will be roomba'd. Do questions with negative answers get cleaned up?
 
2:01 PM
@JAL That should be roomba worthy but I voted.
 
JAL
I have to review the roomba rules again
 
@JAL that will be roomba'd AFAIK. Even the Roomba US shows it will be Roomba'd in 4 days
 
JAL
@AshishAhuja Roomba US?
 
JAL
@Glorfindel thanks
 
2:03 PM
@JAL Siguza's User script, lemme get a link..
 
morning!
 
JAL
ooh nice
morning gunr
 
Hiya gunr
 
hey gunr
 
Hiya Jal and gunr
 
2:04 PM
Sep 29 at 15:31, by Petter Friberg
Sep 15 at 13:04, by Siguza
 
JAL
installing now, thanks!
 
what is it going to say? "This post is cloudy with a chance of rain"?
:D
 
JAL
boooo
boo you
 
s/rain/meatballs or waffles
 
personally, I would not eat food that has traveled miles through the air
 
2:06 PM
@SmokeDetector bad que
 
@SmokeDetector that Q can be closed as well.
 
@SmokeDetector "roomba 10 days"
Nice userscript :D
 
@gunr2171 where you see the "active today" things on the right etc, there you will see what Cerbrus said
 
I know, I already have it installed :P
also boo mod sniping
 
2:25 PM
hey @BhargavRao
Can you help me with a little experiment?
 
Hi
Sure.
 
JAL
agreeing before he even asked you what to do!
 
Ban him :3 </experiment>
 
send him back to mod school
 
I believe him :D
 
2:26 PM
I flagged a NAA here just now: stackoverflow.com/questions/38414449/…
Can you handle that flag and tell me when you're done with it?
I want to check a bug with retracting flags
 
That one is already handled
 
JAL
it's already handled?
 
I deleted that 10 secs before you asked
 
8 seconds ago :)
 
That was too fast
:(
 
2:26 PM
Darn Mods are too fast these days.
3
 
Can you wait with the next NAA in sobotics until I'm ready?
I found a bug and I want to repro it
 
I think it's the wrong time @Magisch
11 mods are active ATM.
 
I'll find an off the grid naa
 
@Magisch try with VLQ they can't delete those in a couple of secs..
 
I just need a flag that I know will be helpful and that I can prepare for being marked helpful
I'd rather not eat a declined flag just to test
 
2:31 PM
No sorry...
 
@BhargavRao right, this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/14630863/…
 
2:44 PM
grrr
power outage
 
@BhargavRao A little late, but congrats on the mod position :)
 
Thanks. :)
I know that you're @Old and forget things :P
 
Yeah, not as fast as I used to be ;-)
 
:D
Title: Wow! :D
 
1
Q: Burninate data-science tag?

Hack-RThere are a small number (339) of posts tagged as data-science. I'm a Data Scientist myself, but I think this tag is probably worthless. Almost all 150,000 R questions, all MATLAB, Octave, and probably 50% of Python and Excel questions would qualify as being data science. It's used so rarely a...

 
JAL
3:06 PM
Is there a close reason for questions which ask "why does this program work?"
too broad? unclear?
 
@JAL: depends on the question
 
JAL
lacks mcve probably, has it in the close reason
 
Heh, I was ninja'd too
 
mods sniping mods.
 
JAL
mods don't let other mods review alone
 
3:16 PM
I've been ninja'd by Martijn a lot of times.
 
JAL
well duh, he's a robot
 
It's like a ferrari overtaking a rusty old benz :D
I was in the 3rd post, out of 10. The remaining 7 were all sniped.
 
@BhargavRao Sniped for you? :O
 
Martijn has be doing the job so long he has a fully automatic belt feed sniper riffle now.
 
JAL
@PraveenKumar that will be roomba'd
Also there's a suspicious suggested edit on that question stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/14453374
 
3:22 PM
@JAL Okay.
Rejected.
 
How is that suspicious?
I assume the person just went to the site and pulled the css <.<
 
JAL
oh yeah, I guess that's what happened
I thought it was suspicious because there was no URL posted or anything, but the site name is in the screenshot
 
view all changes, not just diffs owo then it makes sense
For now, apply toast to head.
 
@Yam rolled back self vandalism, no point in reopening
 
3:30 PM
@PraveenKumar maybe that's from the link
 
@Tunaki Still, not good.
Or not right...
Unacceptable. :D
 
Yeah should be up to the OP
 
@Tunaki Right... :D
 
3:44 PM
@FOX9000 cc @gunr2171
 
yes, in c# you inherit classes, but you implement interfaces.
 
So approve then?
 
done
 
nvm :)
afk
 
bfk
 
3:52 PM
cfk
 
No, CFKs are banned by the Montréal treaty
 
@Adriaan that'd be CFCs
 
@Glorfindel oh, we might be calling them CFKs around here I guess
 
With so many Dutch people, I suppose so.
 
3:55 PM
We agree on CFK's in this room
 
What's a CFK?
 
@PraveenKumar chloorfluorkoolwaterstoffen
Learn Dutch, will you....
 
@rene :D
 
@rene sounds germanish to my ears
 
4:23 PM
I'm gonna break the onebox rule.
 
@kayess yeah, some words and sounds are similar
 
JAL
Does that mean the mod queue is clear??
 
@Undo don't you mods have a twobox rule instead?
 
@JAL It's all Bhargav's fault.
7
 
JAL
ONE-BOX, ONE-BOX
 
4:24 PM
SOCVR: We break thingz
 
JAL
the crowd goes wild!
 
well, more the three new folks have added just enough capacity to whittle it down over the last week or so
 
JAL
That's amazing, congrats @BhargavRao
 
@JAL I kicked him twice already ....
I think the real message is: You lazy people, start flagging stuff ....
 
@PraveenKumar Could you dupehammer this question to that?
 
4:27 PM
@rene 100 flags less in the queue as I'm on the other side ;)
@JAL thanks.
 
@Gothdo done.
 
Thanks.
 
@rene don't tell me that, I always have pending flags waiting to be considered helpful
 
JAL
NAA? or partial answer with links?
 
I have noticed that there's been a lot fewer flaggable NAA or VLQ answers since we have gained three more moderators. I used to easily find 20-30 a day, now it's more like 10. Presumably they aren't wasting their time going through the LQPRQ though.
 
4:29 PM
As the mods are done with the queue, can they focus on the CVQ now? Pretty please, yes? ;)
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4:50 PM
This is why I get triggered. A question that shows 0 effort in every way, that gets an upvote, that gets comment explaining what the issue is, with an OP that doesn't try to improve their post, and gets an answer from a 20k user.
 
user4639281
@WaiHaLee this
 
How do we protect the site from such garbage...
 
@PraveenKumar - Nice answer on that question. Beat me to it :P
 
It's arguably worse than spam
 
@Henders Thanks mate.
 
4:55 PM
SQL answers always look so shouty to me..
 
bookmarked in case, I have no votes left
 
JAL
@Machavity could a mod migrate that?
 
@JAL Maybe
Migrations are funny things. I just leave them alone unless it's a clear Meta.SO
 
5:00 PM
@AaronHall What was the point of that edit? Posts nuked as spam are not shown anyway ("This answer was marked as spam or rude or abusive and is therefore not shown - you can see the revision history for details.")
 
JAL
@Gothdo Hmm, I'd like to know as well. In fact, I've seen people try to edit spam/expletives out of answers to have a mod roll their edit back
 
user4639281
@Gothdo Don't see much point in it myself. Now we're storing two revisions for an offensive post.
 
JAL
It was Brad, I'll try to find it
 
@Gothdo Moderators are exempt from the 'therefore not shown' thing.
 
@Undo That's what I thought. Still, IMO that edit was superfluous.
 
JAL
5:06 PM
@Gothdo are you going to post on meta?
 
Maybe, but it's really not a thing to worry about
 
@JAL No, I think I already posted too many questions on Meta recently.
 
Posting on meta would just be adding superfluous wear to your keyboard.
 
JAL
ha
 
5:07 PM
Gotta consider that keyboard wear...
 
@Queen odd. He must have manually posted that
he has a gold badge in c++
 
Undo probably has one of those fancy mechanical keyboards. Gotta watch that lifecycle...
 
@TylerH I do that wen I am not 100% sure ad want others to weigh in.
 
Lights and everything...
 
@Henders like that optimus keyboard thing
@Closey alive
 
JAL
5:13 PM
Hans showing weakness? No way
 
Good morning!
 
morning
 
@TylerH exactly! :P
 
@NisseEngström it seems obvious that he is adding those variables as part of the answer
e.g. "add these two variables and make them this"
 
@NisseEngström why'd you edit that? Nvm, saw the suggested edit you approved
 
JAL
5:27 PM
o/
 
I also think the JS and HTML are not useful in that question
 
@TylerH But what is $filedata supposed to do?
 
that's a different question
and a good one :-)
I was just responding to your point about the variables not being in the question
I dunno how this got 4 upvotes...
 
@Adriaan Yeah, I thought I might improve the question while I was at it. Then I realized that it wasn't a stellar question. :-)
 
Hey, I'm still learning the ropes.
 
5:32 PM
@AaronHall \o
 
I'm perfectly happy to leave it alone, though. I suppose it'll get roomba'd eventually.
 
Plus unclear...
 
user4639281
@NisseEngström close it and it'll get deleted sooner.
 
user4639281
In fact, if closed, it should probably be deleted tonight
 
yeah it's at -4, if it's closed then it will probably be deleted very quickly
the answer is at 0 score and not accepted
 
5:36 PM
@TinyGiant does roomba consider posting date? I thought it was only a year after closure (or 9 days of course for a negative scoring Q)
 
I thought it was 30 days or something
 
@Adriaan I'd join @Nobody. AFAIK it's a 30 days cycle.
@TinyGiant Automatically (by roomba)?
 
what's wrong with that guy?
 
According to meta.stackexchange.com/a/92006/258777, posts with negative score & no answers get deleted after 30 days, posts with 0 score, no answers, and low activity get deleted after a year, and closed posts with 0 score or less and no positively scored answers get deleted after 9 days.
 
user4639281
@Adriaan stackoverflow.com/help/roomba yeah, it would be nine days from closure, or a year from posting regardless of closure status.
 
5:43 PM
So all of us were right
 
user4639281
@NobodyNada No, I was wrong.
 
oh yeah
 
Migrate to SF or migrate to SU? I don't see a programming question in this: stackoverflow.com/questions/40894608/…
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis here is your list assuming the firewall is open 52.26.33.85/sotdel
 
@Louis voted to migrate to SU
 
5:51 PM
@NobodyNada Thanks. I went and read the descriptions on the main page of SU and SF and I'm still sitting uncomfortably on the fence between the two. :-/ I guess this this is not a question about a "business environment", that excludes SF, and SU it is.
 
Yeah, SU's What topics can I ask about here includes:
> personal and home computer networking
 
@Sami users do that when they get a quality warning before posting. This is their way to work around the warning, with as an end-result their question is closed ...
 
@NobodyNada That settles it then...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ watch your comments ...
tone it down a notch maybe?
 
@rene Sure? The OP asked themselves for it. I'd say that's innocent.
 
6:02 PM
OK, as you wish ;)
 
So what's up?
 
If I look up and out the window I see clouds.
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Are you camping?
 
@rene Would be nice to hear some mod's opinions (@Aaron)
 
@Drew that's awesome, thanks!
 
6:04 PM
@rene Fixed it.
 
@Louis nice, now my message looks ridiculous ....
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis now go to meta and get us some voters :p
 
@Louis It's just dark out there (locally) :P
 
@rene My plan has finally come to fruition! I've joined this room ages ago so that one day I could edit one of my comments so that you'd look ridiculous. evil laugh My life's work has been accomplished... at last.
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OK, great, pack your box, security shows you the door....
 
6:19 PM
@Louis Each message's history is publicly visible, just FYI
 
My opinion is to flag it if you think it's flagworthy, otherwise, let it go, let it goooooooo
 
@AaronHall I think πάντα was asking you if you think his comments are flagworthy.
 
I know, but what does my opinion count for? I'll try to handle no-brainers.
Just try to be nice, but also try to be accurate and precise and correct. And remember that answers go in the answers, questions go in the questions, and comments are subject to deletion.
 
great answer :)
 
yay
 
6:31 PM
@AaronHall Yeah, that's your job as a mod.
 
I want my comments never subject to deletion. They are insightful and brilliant. Even when sassy.
 
Tough noogies, you want me to not delete your comments, they better be clear and currently relevant criticisms of the post. If the issues with the post get fixed, they're obsolete.
 
@NobodyNada Regarding that I have some more degrees of freedom than a mod . Like doing puppy education and dunking their nose in the pee puddle they left. I still think that's neither a not nice or rude action. Nevertheless it's all handled now and deleted by OP.
 
Remember you can always delete your own comments too.
 
In chat, only for a limited time
 
6:37 PM
@AaronHall Sure, but that one was serious.
 
what was?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I didn't see the comments, so I'm not in a position to judge them. As Aaron Hall said, "just try to be nice, but also try to be accurate and precise and correct"
 
I haven't even looked at anything referenced recently here.
gimme a link if you want
 
@AaronHall I referred to that one of mine.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ best puppy education is to show them a picture of the geckos
 
6:39 PM
@Drew You're cruel to me :/
^ Always putting a finger in the wound!
 
Yeah I'd probably say "do that" instead. Say what's wrong, but if you can, tell them what to do to set it right.
But it's all deleted now, so all we have is a moot postmortem.
 
@AaronHall Yeah, that was lazy from my part.
@AaronHall Even postmortem analysis gives some insight and might lead to improvement.
 
That is why I mostly gave up on commenting questions... you tell the truth and you end up being considered rude...
 
@DalijaPrasnikar Yeah, that's observable in many cases (even outside Stack Overflow) :P
 
6:49 PM
Well thanks to this we now know that when you dupe hammer something it leaves a deleted possible duplicate comment in your name.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ people just don't accept criticism in any form... I have been told to take a hike even when I was overly polite...
 
@Reimeus @YvetteColomb @JarrodRoberson @cricket_007 @PetterFriberg @Tunaki ... fyi Sotirios has a recent delete candidate list up here: 52.26.33.85/sotdel
 
@DalijaPrasnikar "people just don't accept criticism in any form" The very 1st form they don't accept, and complain about, are downvotes.
People are a weird crowd :P
@Drew My aquarium runs well meanwhile BTW.
 
purified water and mist system? Ready for round 2?
 
7:12 PM
@Drew "Ready for round 2?" Not completely yet. I'll try to fix that up in the X-Mas holidays, and maybe lookup for another couple of geckos next year.
@Drew I never really educated puppies BTW. I had a couple of cats (kittens), but dunking them in their own pee never worked out actually. They either learned themselves to find the loo, or just kept using that behavior to punish you (hard to find out what your fault it was).
 
Maybe they liked it.
 
@Drew Did you keep cats anytime?
 
once as a kid. Just one.
 
7:29 PM
@Drew Maybe you were lucky with a good relationship (and forgiving parents tidying up after): wayofcats.com/blog/…
I love cats tho. Don't get me misunderstood.
 
o/
 
@πάνταῥεῖ great world we have created here huh
 
@Drew I hope you don't finger point teh germanz regarding that. We're all in that same little boat.
 
@Drew On the other hand we give back the oil: there are already places in the oceans where plastic particles cover the ground. Mostly PE from plastic bags and other foils. Add some 1000 years and they will be covered with sand. Some more mio years and they become oil again.
And I never threw plasitc bags into the sea or fed car parts to a whale.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ i am not at all. There was a great magazine article 6 mos or a year ago about all the plastics in our oceans. Shocking
A plastic sea in asia I hear. Huge.
 
7:42 PM
@Drew There's kinda island forming in the pacific ocean :S
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sargasso sea ... There was a Telepolis article about that some time ago.
 
@Olaf That's a different phenomenon
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I don't mean the phenomeno as such, but that it now has already a bulk of plastics parts with the algae.
 
@Olaf Sounds likely, yes ...
 
Wasn't it Japan who built an airport on a pile of rubbish? IIRC Tokyo
 
7:47 PM
@Olaf Yeah, I remember that.
 
Let's wait for the next earthquake. I wonder how stable compressed rubbish is to tectonics.
 
There are tornados 12 miles from here
first we have wildfires during a massive drought, then we have a huge storm and tornados...
 
check out the animation the fish on the plate
 
@TylerH Huh, your airforce still uses Tornados? Watch your head!
 
no, weather ones :-)
my air force uses f-22s and f-35s
but they also use f-16s which are as old as Tornados
 
7:55 PM
same airforce that Olaf subleases
 
I don't think the USAF has ever used the tornado aircraft
 
@Drew Yeah, I agree it's shocking and a serious problem concerning all of us. Do you have an idea how your president elect will go to cover solving these?
@Olaf Ha ha. Lame :P
 
he will be awesome at it. Trust me he has a plan.
 
@Drew Sure! He'll inforce a law to forbid plastic particles to conglomerate in the worldwide oceans. Great idea!
 

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