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3:00 PM
@Kyll Oh. I'll think of some trash quotes
 
:33607417 Hmm?
 
user6820627
that's night for me now
 
Yay \o/
 
:)
 
user6820627
3:02 PM
bye!
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent See ya!
 
I made history \o/
 
Oh well
I can't think of any quotes. To Google and beyond
I think the first half is nice.
 
@Thomas Please also provide a reason such as "Too Broad"
 
> Benjamin Franklin said there were only two things certain in life: death and taxes. But I'd like to add a third certainty: trash.
CC @Kyll
 
3:05 PM
@M.A.R. I think the whole quote applies to this room xD
 
Oh, sorry, I usually do
 
> rene said there were only two things certain in life: death and bad questions. But we'd like to add a third certainty: trash.
 
Too broad is fine here
 
@JacobGray That too. But for that we need to find a quote about Stack Overflow reviewers.
@Kyll PLAGIARISM
 
user4639281
> rene said there were only two things certain in life: death, bad questions, and trash
 
3:06 PM
Sirens
 
@M.A.R. FAIR USE
@TinyGiant this
@rlemon Don't forget to provide a reason such as "Too broad"
I should totally script this ^
 
it has a custom reason
 
Well, provide something.
 
@rlemon Then, "custom" or "blatantly off-topic"
 
k
 
3:08 PM
Sep 23 at 16:21, by dorukayhan
> off-sight racehorse
 
I'd prefer to repeat the off-topic reason
 
^ or dat
 
user4639281
> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because SO doesn't help circumvent the acceptable use for other sites or design malicious code.
 
user4639281
SINCE WHEN?
 
6 to 8 units of time ago
 
user4639281
3:09 PM
It's wayyyyyy too broad. But the close reason used is blatantly incorrect
 
I'd have gone with TB rather than with the custom reason.
 
user4639281
There's nothing wrong with circumventing things or writing malicious code as far as the site is concerned. It helps us learn how to prevent users from circumventing our things and negate the effects of malicious code.
 
user4639281
Aaaaannnnd now the close reason is invalid.
 
Commenting
 
Ha, then I can post a question about circumventing the script used to block the thing I'm trying to circumvent :p
 
3:12 PM
@TinyGiant since always?
 
user4639281
I have yet to see an authoritative post that such software is off-topic, I have seen many which say the opposite.
 
@Kyll is it true that rinsing my mouth with scope for 60 seconds will help kill gingivitis?
@TinyGiant it's not the purview of an authoritative post, it's not being an asshole and the reason why we can't have Nice Things
 
@TylerH It will also rot your teeth.
Also commented about the wrong close reason and invited here to avoid clogging the post.
 
I went unclear on that one.
 
@Kyll will it really
 
user4639281
3:15 PM
@TylerH Like this one?
 
20
Q: Should questions that violate API Terms of Service be flagged?

CullenJQuestion is here: How to remove or hide powered by text from Google Translate I've commented to let the user know this is violating Google's TOS, but I was wondering if this should be flagged? As @gunr2171 pointed out, the TOS for StackExchange (understandably) state: Use of the Network or ...

 
@rlemon Nice find, I remember reading it before
 
user4639281
@rlemon That's the one I was looking for, or something similar
 
meta searching is painful
 
@TinyGiant while I agree that using a proxy is not grounds for assumption of violating terms of service or acceptable use (so this question doesn't fall under that umbrella), a question asking how to hack some site or perform some malicious activity should be shut down ruthlessly
 
3:17 PM
@rlemon This room is allergic to one-boxes though.
 
a wild Tiny Giant appears
 
For some reason.
 
@rlemon SE searching is painful*
@M.A.R. we used to get carried away with cat gifs
 
@TylerH I use google :D site:stackoverflow.com blah
 
so the room owners cracked down
@rlemon samesies
 
3:17 PM
60% of the time, it works every time
 
@TylerH Heh figures
 
@M.A.R. when it is relevant to the discussion at hand it is fine. The rule is really there to make the room not look like the tavern.
 
in conjunction with W3Schools Hider browser add-on, I get pretty useful results
 
user4639281
@TylerH I don't share your sentiment there.
 
grey: (removed)
crap, this isn't runescape
 
3:19 PM
Can I have a good commenter here? stackoverflow.com/a/40155972/1743880 Context: lots of answers poiting to a product. It's probably okay here (not spam).
 
@TinyGiant that's fine
 
@TylerH a.k.a. train (when applied in sequence)
 
user4639281
 
@NathanOliver Hey, what's wrong with the Tavern?
 
3:20 PM
@M.A.R. ha ha
 
Commenter disregarded invitation to chat, not engaging any further. Moving on.
 
@rlemon please don't link to user profiles
 
Nothing. This just is not the tavern so we want our own look :)
 
Seriously though, it's hardly a GIF a day.
Maybe it used to be a lot.
 
@Tunaki weird rule, but okay
 
3:21 PM
Like, a lot lot
 
@M.A.R. come around when a party goes
BTW when the 2nd official SOCVR ONEBOX PARADE will be held?
 
@kayess Happy hour? I thought the Tavern is even emptier at Happy Hour, hehe.
Oh, you mean SOCVR party?
 
yeah ofc
 
Sure, if I'm not asleep.
 
3:22 PM
@kayess In 6 to 8...
 
@NathanOliver Roger
 
@Tunaki sorry, I flagged as spam and voted to close the Q as too broad
2 mins ago, by NathanOliver
Nothing. This just is not the tavern so we want our own look :)
 
@TylerH you think so?
 
Custom room skin confirmed
@Tunaki I do. The answer (whether it addresses the Q or not) fails to provide adequate disclosure (he's on the Blynk dev team), and the Q is asking several questions
two of which are off-topic in and of themselves
 
@TylerH I missed that.
mod-flag?
 
3:24 PM
I say "on the blynk" dev team, it appears to be at least somewhat open source dev
but he is on their community discussions and is a vip/frequent contributor
I flagged as spam so I assume the mod will come take a look at the context
since it doesn't look like obvious spam in the mod queue
 
> deleted by meagar♦ 14 secs ago
 
@rlemon The problem with links to user profiles in the room is that it gives ammo to people who hate what this room does. It makes it easy for them to scream "See! They are not moderating posts, they are ganging up on users."
 
^
 
@Louis yea I get that, kinda. but it's a weak argument on their end as linking to a q/a is just as damaging as linking to a profile.
 
3:28 PM
@Kyll I answered the tab question :P
 
Linking to the post makes it explicit we are moderating just that post. linking to the user make it look like we are moderating the user and that is a no no. Can we go to the user from the post, yes. Is that our problem from there though, no.
 
@ZachSaucier downvoting in progress, booting sockpuppets
 
@rlemon Also, the automated script that posts requests here also adds a link to the user profile at the end of the request. I'd say the rule is more don't come into the room saying "guys, look at this user!" than the presence or absence of the link itself.
 
@NathanOliver eh, I've commented on this on meta before. I disagree with the tone most people take on that. moderation is moderation and users generally ask similar types of questions.
 
3:29 PM
^^
 
@Louis which is fine and well, but when a user is posting nothing but spam I think it is fair game to link to their profile vs dropping all of their Qs
I'm not here to break your rules tho, I just am voicing my disagreement :D
 
@rlemon the policy here for that is to custom flag one of the Qs and say 'this user is posting spammy answers'
 
@rlemon Hey if you want to moderate a user that is your prerogative. We just don't want it here.
 
@rlemon I'm just explaining how the rule is. I don't particularly like it, but having had to defend the room against attack on Meta, I see the benefit of it.
 
3:31 PM
@Louis I come from JS room, defending on meta is a part time job.
;)
 
ask again in 3 hours T_T
 
@rlemon I've seriously thought about hanging in the JS room but I'm slightly concerned about the traffic there. This room has about the level of activity that works for me. (Actually, sometimes it is a bit much and the request graveyard or the trash can might be better.)
 
@Louis it is mostly all the same 20 or so users
we get a lot of fly by traffic, but they usually ask their questions then leave
 
yeah, like "why arent you guys using php yet" and then they get chased out
 
3:35 PM
It's like 60% shitposting and 40% js
 
@ZachSaucier Deleted my comments btw
 
Kyll get on ES7 already
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis that one :)
 
I got you!
 
3:45 PM
And a self accepted answer as well
 
@RiggsFolly Active three months ago, meh
 
@Kyll removed the IIREs. I need to see if .bind leaves it async tho...
 
@ZachSaucier OP seems satisfied. The bind should work, but I don't think there's any point to pass inputs as it would have a shared reference (might be wrong on that). Also, add a snippet?
 
4:00 PM
@ZachSaucier \o/
 
@Yam looks like now it is too broad
 
hmm. Might get more help on SU but I would not close it here.
 
4:16 PM
You think professional server admin?
 
oh you have a gold in there Sotirios, that's right :)
 
@Kyll it's necessary to pass both. Otherwise the JS refers to the original i object which gets updated so it'll move to the second input on the second form the first time, for example
 
4:31 PM
 
@Yam What do we think now?
 
@NathanOliver v--- I'd prefer that, but I cast a delete vote
 
@NathanOliver I think I'll have another beer.
 
ME WANT BEER
 
@NathanOliver proper Dutch beer
why both bottle and glass are full is a Dutch secret (never order one beer, so drink two alone)
 
4:35 PM
:)
@Adriaan none near me :(
 
@NathanOliver move here, that's the wise choice anyway :p
 
After this election I just might
 
You can stop to the south west of there, there's a great country it seems.
 
@Tunaki you mean the US?
 
4:40 PM
Why did I get that page?
 
@Tunaki Belgium?
 
@ryanyuyu Nah, the geat country whose government sends source code of a 20 pages PL/SQL function in printed form
by post, to a student association that was asking the source code of an official online platform...
 
@NathanOliver I'll keep the beer chilled for you
 
sounds good
 
Hello!
 
4:44 PM
@Tunaki sounds like a plan. Of someone's.
 
They actually printed that horrible function. And send it by mail. A letter. Containing 20 pages of code.
 
@Tunaki They wanted to test the students OCR software?
 
5:14 PM
@NathanOliver Nope. The student association asked for it, because they legally can, and wanted to see how the site was coded. And the government didn't want to comply, so they sent a letter with only one huge function.
 
w..o..w..
 
...
 
.._.._...__._._...
 
Sam
I'll get my morse code book...
 
If it says something let me know
 
5:16 PM
Incredibly enough, it translates to "waffle".
 
@NathanOliver What if it's a curse or the F-word or something . . .
 
@M.A.R. Then I'll have to flag it
 
I think there's supposed to be separators in between the letters in Morse
 
I always fantasized about not knowing a foreign language and using a combination of symbols that resembled an insult.
 
That's a strange thing to fantasize about.
 
Sam
5:23 PM
@NobodyNada Yeah
 
5:55 PM
!!/alive
 
!!/lick
 
@Adriaan licks ice cream cone
 
share some, will you love?
 
permissions to run the alive command?
!!/status
 
@gunr2171 Running since 17:55:04 UTC (1 minute)
 
5:57 PM
oh, that's why
 
@gunr2171 Should be global
 
yeah, I was looking that up too
 
!!/smokey-i-love-you
why are you ignoring me :(
 
He/It's not ignoring you, he/it is blushing
 
6:06 PM
Hiya
Is this Thanks as an answer? stackoverflow.com/a/40161505/4099593
 
@BhargavRao Heh, are they thanking themselves?
 
@BhargavRao It's repeating a comment
 
MAR, you're awesome. Thank you.
 
I wouldn't flag it
 
@M.A.R. Nope, He's thanking the OP. See the other comment.
 
6:08 PM
@Tunaki In that case keep, perhaps edit
 
@Tunaki Yeah. I'm afraid of a declined flag
 
Scaredy cat
 
@BhargavRao What if I send one of my own in your way?
 
Yep
 
@BhargavRao edited
 
6:09 PM
@Tunaki Thanks
@JanDvorak That'd be difficult to handle ;)
 
That should totally be a feature
 
@Tunaki NAAs are lying around since 2 and a half hours.
 
ALERT
 
Out of Flags or Busy?
 
quite busy
taking a look
 
6:12 PM
Hah, That explains it.
38 mins ago, No comment, No vote stackoverflow.com/a/40160948/4099593 :D
 
@BhargavRao looks like you were on it 1 hour ago
 
Nope, I'm scanning backwards from 3 hrs.
 
SO has a mod named Matt. I never saw him anywhere. O.O
 
@M.A.R. Search for BoltClock's answer mentioning him. It's funny
 
@M.A.R. That is who all the other mods get their ninja lessons from.
 
6:20 PM
So bluefeet stepped down to become a CM.
Like most of the other mods.
@BhargavRao I was expecting BoltClock humor. I was disappointed.
It was just regular humor. :(
 
Yeah. :(
 
down to 10 flags @Bhargav
 
I'm at 22
 
patrolled through page 20
Eh...
 
@BhargavRao One could wonder if they're deliberately doing this
 
6:26 PM
@BhargavRao this could yield a nice meta post
 
have some waffles
 
I mean, do you just go and ask for a solution then edit and provide one of your own?
 
Yeah, I'm a bit tired. Sorry
 
@M.A.R. It happens from time to time.
 
@BhargavRao Hullo a bit tired
 
6:27 PM
My comment there was also deleted.
 
Yep, we're back to the square where mods aren't shown that answers were edited. I know Undo worked on a user-script for that.
 
Yeah, I'm sure there are lots of posts on meta bout that.
Hmm, Today was not a good day for me. I'd better go and sleep. Bye all.
 
night o/
closing in on 20k @Drew, nice :)
 
been a bit lazy recently
I like to answer in comments. Hard not to find a dupe here somewhere
 
6:52 PM
was just looking at that one
 
stackoverflow.com/a/40162174/3285730 does this count as an answer?
It makes no effort to answer it
 
Yes
 
@JacobGray kinda yeah I guess
the whole thing should just be deleted
 
Needs some close votes first :P
 
7:07 PM
don't click the link
 
@Tunaki know you make me curious...
 
One could argue than pure functional language don't need if.
 
@Tunaki One could argue. But they'd be wrong.
 
@M.A.R. I can argue that you could argue that such a statement is arguably true.
 
7:18 PM
@Tunaki You can argue. You can't win.
One could argue that you can't even win if you're right.
 
no
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I don't think your comment there was useful...
 
@Tunaki The link?
 
the code in the post is related and does seem to answer the question
it's just link-only
 
@Tunaki what to flag , spam??
 
7:33 PM
VLQ to me
 
@Tunaki Why not delete?
 
I guess that works also
Vote 1.
 
Vote 2.
do we have a third?
 
Vote 3.
 
i cant :(
 
7:35 PM
not that mine counts :D
 
spiritually, it does
 
gimme rep, then I'll join in the voting
 
me too rep
we need rep
 
I'll spend one virtual, too
 
7:35 PM
in your universe composed of pink elephants dancing around, you just deleted it
4
 
this is vandalism right?
 
@ColdFire roll back the edit.
 
@ColdFire It is now auto flagged
 
It's already done
 
I'll sound the edit-war trumpet "PWAAAAP"
 
7:39 PM
wow sd was slow
than me hehe
 
@JanDvorak; yes, you're right. It was snarky to say the least.
Must strive to do better.
 
@Tunaki Are you able to see flags on posts that aren't your own?
 
@FrankerZ what kind of flags?
 
@Tunaki What types of flags can you see?
 
@FrankerZ you can guess VLQ/NAA but otherwise you don't see a thing
 
7:42 PM
I saw this post: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/121948/… and it mentioned "1 × rollback war"
So I was curious if 10k users could get some insights into what flags are being imposed on a post
 
I don't think flags are ever visible to any non-diamond mod (and the user who cast it)
 
nah, that's only for mods to see
us mortals can make guesses but that's it
 
we mortals are grammatical
 
mortals lol
 
The new campaign: I Mortal!
 
7:44 PM
Both are grammatical.
@Tunaki This one's grammatical too.
 
we need a mortal as a MOD
 
The world seems so perfect now.
So much grammaticality.
 
@ColdFire throw new ArgumentException()
 
@M.A.R. :D
 
'us mortals' is one NP and 'we mortals' is two NPs. 'mortals' in the latter is an appositive.
 
7:46 PM
mar chemical is overflowing
 
that non-appositive form is a thing?
 
Yes. It's grammatical.
I remember I asked Stoney about it. Let me find his response.
 
Would having insight into auto-flags/maybe possibly non "In need of moderation attention" flags, help moderate the site? I'm curious about the repercussions of showing these to non-diamond-moderators.
 
@Tunaki I Robot!
 
@FrankerZ Hmh, not sure it'd do any good.
 
7:47 PM
@M.A.R. huh. That dude is pretty pro with English.
 
@FrankerZ Well the rules for what is auto flagged is published so you can deduce yourself if a auto flag has been raised.
 
Make a post-it with all those darned rulez...
 
@ryanyuyu And a very kind gentleman. I look up to him.
 
@Tunaki I, Aye Aye Eye!
 
@NathanOliver So if this is the case, then wouldn't it be helpful to be like, "Yup, this did get auto-flagged. Moving on now"
Personally, I'd like some reassurances. For example, what if they change the functionality in the future? Am I always going to need to be kept up to date?
 
7:51 PM
@FrankerZ For me it makes no difference but I can see why it would be helpful. especially since some mods decline flags because they were already handled by an auto flag
 
You think this is worth a Meta? It doesn't directly apply to me, but I feel it to be able to have some insight into flagged posts would be helpful for the 10k/20k users as they can be able to help delete problematic posts
 
@FrankerZ you could write one and find out via the voting.
 
Its just meta points. Write one up and see what happens :)
 
Ah. Showing a small blurb to >10k or something that "A system flag has automatically been raised, there is no need to raise one again" would be nice indeed. But... there are a lot of corner cases here.
 
ok, making the Meta now
 
7:53 PM
@NathanOliver "Just meta points"? I'm really attached to my even-more-imaginary-than-usual internet points.
 
Like, what do you do when some user copy-pastes their thing around?
 
@ryanyuyu Oh, just found it. It seems Tuna was ungrammatical after all.
in Language Overflow on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Nov 17 '15 at 20:26, by StoneyB
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. CGEL calls it a personal determinative. Formally that should be *We humans should be treated ..." and *You should treat us humans ..."
Well, not ungrammatical, but non-standard.
 
Ah good to know. Thanks.
 
NP
 
@ryanyuyu You covet the unicorn points more the the super unicorn eating a waffle points?
 
7:55 PM
@M.A.R. :(
@M.A.R. Alright.
 
I reject your grammar and substituent my grammer.
 
yes! let us all master grammer!
 
@NathanOliver You're grammer will no successful
 
slaps MAR
 
grammer my pro is
 
7:58 PM
@NathanOliver Graham-er? (like graham crackers)
 
are good those too
 
they're ok. Good in s'mores.
 
mhhhhhhh
 
@JanDvorak Oh, yessir. Arrests Nathan
 
me catch can't
 
8:02 PM
@SmokeDetector links to the same site
 
@SmokeDetector Someone should remind them not to promote too much
 
@JanDvorak: hopefully my comments are better/more constructive this time
 
(Or, request for off-site resource.)
 
8:16 PM
@Queen I know sweetie.
 
Thanks honey
 
8:39 PM
I already thought my holiday guest cat escaped today. But she's just sitting frightened under the sofa. Wiping the sweat pearls from my forehead, Phew!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Why frightened?
 
@M.A.R. It's a completely unusual situation for her, that's why.
 
Hmm.
 
@M.A.R. We had quite difficulties to get her in the transport box. All extremities straddled :P
Anyone of the regular users around here?
 

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