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7:00 PM
And there was a "looks ok" in that post too
Has anyone seen this article? Frankly, I'm sad that spaces beat out tabs
 
@FrankerZ yay
at least space have a consistent separation... and for programmers consistency is sexy
 
@Tunaki I give up, back 2 work, see ya
 
:(
ok
gave up too....
how can that question not have been asked (with the right skin of the cat), it is beyond me
@Queen k
@Queen like that one... blargh
 
@JAL thank you sir
 
@Braiam Personally, I like tabs. If I wish to view indents smaller, I can simply set the tab width to 2. I can't do that with spaces.
 
7:14 PM
@Braiam "and for programmers consistency is sexy" As for all what I've seen so far this seems to be a myth
 
user4639281
Controversy, it's what I do best
 
@TinyGiant Did you step into a hornets nest?
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ I am the hornets nest
 
@TinyGiant :)
 
@Queen k
 
7:19 PM
@Tiny Why did you remind me about that drama queen that morning? I didn't actually had time to response
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm proud of you, join the hipsters : )
 
@PetterFriberg Not really ;) Just anti-snarkiness training. Trying to take the high road
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ I was just reviewing some of my deleted answers, you commented there, was being nostalgic
 
@πάνταῥεῖ come on.... be excessively nice, that is fun to, sorry for battering you but could please add some code, sir
 
@FrankerZ Servy, but you did that now already
 
7:25 PM
@Rizier123 Yeah. FGITW dupe hammer
 
@PetterFriberg When they call you sir is one thing that gets me really steaming. As what I've learned from indian culture at least, it doesn't mean more than "I don't actually give a shit about you, nice shoes"
 
and when they call you boss?
 
@PetterFriberg Even worse. Much like blaming me calling me a Massa
 
> @Petter Friberg ok boss:-)
 
@PetterFriberg That wasn't me, was it?
 
7:31 PM
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 40 minutes and 53 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 1 second.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ lol, no... but strangely I almost take it as insult... like you are don't really like what I'm telling you...
 
Hey, I made a post few hours ago, some people complained and I have (2) close votes, I've edited the post, is it better now or shall I just delete it? stackoverflow.com/questions/39254041/…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ check out the "hipster" team comments on this question, you will have some fun stackoverflow.com/questions/39234664/… but in the end I actually think we managed to stop that user from continuing to post other off-topic question...
 
@PetterFriberg I really hate this sneaky sir ducking. But well, they've been trained to behave suchlike from generations of colonist assholes. What should we actually expect.
 
@ZivWeissman it looks fine to me and as you have an answer now I wouldn't delete it
ping me if it gets closed
 
7:34 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ meeh the Sir, I see more as a way to try to be nice and formal
 
@rene k thanks :) good day sir.
 
speaking of sir : )
 
@ZivWeissman Watch your wording man
 
He is just joking
 
Oops? just an expression XD
 
7:36 PM
@PetterFriberg I'm aware of that of course :D
@PetterFriberg May be. But too much formalism hides the sneak going underways. In german we have a saying that Sie Arschloch is easier to say than Du Arschloch
 
Is this a legit change? looks okay to me but I do not understand why it wasn't caught already.
 
@NathanOliver yep
if you want compliant html
 
@Braiam Thanks. I just wanted an extra set of eyes. The ones in the back of m head couldn't see the post.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Not sure really depends on culture...
 
@NathanOliver Legit, simple enough that I'm going to say it was OP oversight.
 
7:42 PM
@PetterFriberg As mentioned, teh colonialists influenced their culture badly
 
@undo That was my though. Matched order from above instead of needing the reverse
 
@RiggsFolly Are you sure?
 
@NathanOliver knowing programmers, he probably copied-n-pasted the above line :P
 
@PetterFriberg I've actually experienced quite heavy (anti white people) racism in RSA when I was traveling there. I was shocked somehow, but have a grain of understanding.
 
@Braiam Classic flaw for us :(
@RiggsFolly I would call that too broad not a resource request
 
7:45 PM
I'm closing it because otherwise we'll get the wrong close reason on it.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah, that's too broad.
 
And... PSA, please read stuff before voting.
 
@undo Does the mod cv reason take precedence over all other votes?
 
@NathanOliver Aye
 
@NathanOliver binding
 
7:46 PM
That is cool
 
Kinda nice for stuff like this
 
Yeah
 
same the dupe hammer
 
oh look, an elusive gunr
 
7:48 PM
yep, just popping in for a second
I see some bold above
 
just to be pushed out to a meeting
 
nope! no meetings today!
 
:O
stop the presses!
 
for the last few weeks (and is the normal here) there is a 15 minute scrum meeting in the morning, and that's it
 
you said no meetings
 
7:50 PM
no meetings today, the scrum today got canceled because the teams are rearranging
 
I went to more meetings than gunr today? Is the world ending?
 
to push more meetings/day?
 
: )
nope
 
I was supposed to got to a meeting today but it was pushed back to tomorrow \o/
 
yeah, I'm real happy with this job. the last job had a 3 hour long weekly meeting where the boss just rambled on about nothing and none of us cared.
that's the thing that really pissed me off
 
user4639281
7:55 PM
@tuna, thanks for that :)
 
@TinyGiant not this one, you're sure?
 
user4639281
yeah, that one
 
user4639281
:P
 
@gunr2171 wb to normality I guess? :p
 
@gunr2171 It looks more and more that the only way out is not to have stupid bosses and sirs, but just do your work self confident and self employed. But I'm too dumb for dealing with all the surroundings this brings up (struggling with the fiscal authorities, take care of your health insurance, etc.)
@NinjaPuppy Is there any normality found in this kind of business actually? I'm bored to the bones with these hyenas really.
@Ninja What do you think about my anti snarkiness self training BTW? I found the outcome wasn't really productive. But I've been restricting myself not to leave any down-/close votes. May be just doing the latter without leaving any comments seems to be more effective to prevent the site being filled with crap.
@Queen k
@Queen Sorry for being late sweetie
 
8:13 PM
Thanks honey
 
Wow. 989 lines of CSS!. "Please see rest in the comments below" (except that there aren't any comments).
 
8:36 PM
@Queen k
 
@Tunaki found two egregious edits in the LQPQ
 
Ugh
> @AndrewL. I hope you gave those negative points cause i truly deserve them and not cause you have personal matters that agonize you and you are just looking for an venue to vent
 
I know we don't moderate MSO, but this would be a real knee slapper;
Let's lookup for an appropriate dupe here people! I'd appreciate the irony ;) — πάντα ῥεῖ 1 min ago
 
I even undownvoted when he edited in what I asked for >.<
 
8:56 PM
@rene do I have to modify the joins to get total question count by each of those tags?
 
^ maybe just a different group by. What is the link?
 
@Braiam a percentage?
 
@Tunaki yep
 
I have the perfect link
 
8:59 PM
in SOCVR Testing Facility, Aug 2 at 17:17, by Tunaki
select CurrentStep, count(*) * 100.0 / sum(count(*)) over()
from TheData
group by CurrentStep
 
@Tunaki the thing it that TheData only includes would be deleted posts
I'm thinking of doing something like this dba.stackexchange.com/a/63514/30625
 
not sure I understood what you meant then
data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/532289/…, with percentage of questions in tag
 
that looks wrong
 
why? 44530 JS questions is 3% of their millions
 
I was thinking in intervals between 0-1
 
9:04 PM
@Tunaki The ratio compared to all posted question per tag would be funny. Then PHP would probably lead.
 
1 being what?
 
0 being what?
if you show a mock up of expected results, it can be hit
 
TagName | WouldBeRoomba'dCount | TotalPostsinTag |
java    | 40846                | 1,128,043       |  0.03620961 or 3.620961 %
 
3.06 according to the query above (week old data after all)
how is it different?
 
maybe it wasn't what I expected
especially since all tags with 8 posts share the same percentage...
nonetype	8	0.000600223433
ubuntu-server	8	0.000600223433
amr		8	0.000600223433
 
9:13 PM
plop!
 
hmmm
ah this is non sense
 
@gunr2171 why? it was just a deface that can be easily reverted
 
> Self-vandalism is where a user vandalises their own post by replacing all its useful content with something like "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", or "deleted deleted deleted". For self-vandalism, use tp-. At a system level, we'd want to catch and block people doing this, but it's not worth blacklisting the user because it's usually a one-time incident. Most users, when warned, don't do it again.
 
oh ok
 
scratch that @Braiam I'm missing a drink
drop the query
 
9:16 PM
*drops tunaki*
well, that's it, I have to go
 
@dorukayhan if he complains we could invite him to chat
 
working on something, will ping ya, cya o/
 
if you want, you can edit the table on my answer and ping the last commenter :P
*gets offered a finger, takes an entire arm*
 
I can take an entire arm
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
stackoverflow.com/q/39259015/3933332 See the "how in the world" comments :P
 
9:20 PM
wait, isn't this room supposed to be tagged with as well as and ?
 
if the rows with an 8 shared the same percentage (and that is wrong), then it is using the same aggregate denominator and not its own tag denominator
 
We can't review waffles, waffles are perfect so there is nothing to look at
4
 
but we should eat waffles in moderation
 
yes
 
@Drew yeah it's using the sum of all individual counts... which is, well, wrong
 
9:26 PM
!!/notify 41570 example.com
 
@dorukayhan The given SE site does not exist.
 
!!/notify 41570 google.com
 
@dorukayhan The given SE site does not exist.
 
weeps upon failing to trick smokey
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@dorukayhan That notification configuration is already registered.
 
9:28 PM
SD has been tested by an army of pedantic programmers looking as hard as they can to break it
Or so I hope :p
 
@Tunaki so it could do an extra step getting row level sum, then in an outer query against that derived table do the count and a percent. So like an extra step at the end
 
@Drew I'd be interested to see how you do it
I'm coming to a solution but it's not pretty
 
I don't even know what the query is. I am just babbling via chat
 
haha
 
I mean I don't have a link
 
just something Braiam gave
 
ok so let's say the Tag is Java and the count is 80k, then line two is JS with a count of 77k. What is the missing ingredient here for each lines total of like deletes or whatnot? I have no spec here
 
26 mins ago, by Braiam
TagName | WouldBeRoomba'dCount | TotalPostsinTag |
java    | 40846                | 1,128,043       |  0.03620961 or 3.620961 %
this is the spec
see my query up there that solves it but is slow: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/532330/…
 
i just noticed that appending a hyphen to a smokey command prevents the bot from replying
 
9:36 PM
yes, it's the same feature we use for tp-
 
@Tunaki looks fast enough for me. Good job
 
Oh you are going to laugh @Braiam. Such a change in roomba will burninate a lot of tags data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/532332/… (ordered by percent in tags desc)
 
@Queen k
^Yeh canonical yes
 
@Queen k
 
user3956566
9:53 PM
@ColdFire nice? btw morning
 
user3956566
@FirstStep I was teasing you really, you can't always tell by a users name, I just thought you knew I was a woman and had a bit of fun with you ;)
 
user3956566
ignores ducks ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ
 
@dorukayhan Beg me 1st :)
^Knees at least
 
user3956566
@πάνταῥεῖ hehehe simple. We should undelete it ;)
 
@Yvette Sure? I've got the screenshot right at hand though.
 
10:27 PM
Two selects, OK. I arrived at practically the same up there ^^
 
Can we please delete this a: stackoverflow.com/a/39259948/5647260 literally links another q making it a LOA and the poster knew it was a dupe
 
user3956566
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm joking silly, I can see it, I'm saying the question is simple, we should undelete it (sarcasm) ;)
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. you can't actually flag answer as a dupe except through mod flags, or naa, and it only requires the one flag. Flag pile on only works for abusive and spam flags ;)
 
@Yvette I just love puppies begging for a goodie :P
 
user3956566
> what?. only 5 downvotes?
 
10:31 PM
@Yvette well, I linked it already. The puppies see nothing ;)
 
user3956566
you made me smile this morning. A good thing
 
user3956566
@NinjaPuppy sees all though ;)
 
@Yvette Wow, that's really a good thing my love
 
user3956566
his eyes are everywhere, that one
 
user3956566
10:32 PM
@dorukayhan yes
 
@Yvette I was about to say except ninja puppies
 
user3956566
great minds and all that ;)
 
user3956566
btw do you love how handsome I am this morning?
 
user3956566
I love myself as Gregory Peck
 
@Yvette Much much much. Gregory was as handsome as he looks really? Sure?
 
user3956566
10:35 PM
you've heard of Gregory Peck surely?
 
user3956566
I've loved him since I was 5
 
Hello!
 
user3956566
hi \o
 
@Yvette You're a thorough hete. Appreciated! What do you think about George Clooney?
 
user3956566
He's a good actor.
 
10:38 PM
@Yvette That's a major point that matters for me. Agreed.
I'm an occasional amateur actor
 
user3956566
c'mon?
 
@Yvette Is that a rehearsal or what?
 
user3956566
lol. I'm like where do you act?
 
@Yvette We have a small club called "Verein für bodenständige Kultur", and I was acting frequently there. But with other regional ensembles as well.
 
user3956566
10:43 PM
indigenous culture?
 
@Yvette Yeah, seems the right translation. It's the last resort for punk, rock'n roll and other essential cultures in our open minded and welcoming bavarian culture in Rosenheim.
We claim to be the real bavarians, piss on douche bags like Horst Seehofer
 
user3956566
ah k
 
user3956566
> How dare you have a sense of humour? Despicable. We need a hey calm that joker down or having too much fun flags, honestly ;)
 
I didn't star
@Yvette Do you like acting on stage yourself?
 
@Queen k
 
user3956566
10:55 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ not since school
 
for freak sake
10 seconds of wait time isn't enough in the NATO script @Tiny
I am rate limited AGAIN
 
@Yvette I also started at school, kept occasionally until now.
 
@Tunaki limited from SO?
 
yes
 
"what have you tried" should be a level 3 heading meta.stackoverflow.com/a/260649
 
10:59 PM
doesn't affect chat apparently
 
@Tunaki how on earth did you run into a rate limit as a trusted user?
 
We're bending the limits with a particular user script.
That loads and fetches 30 questions in AJAX from SO. Each question requires 2 Ajax calls so 60 calls in totals.
It used to work for a long time without issues, now that hits the rate limiter. And no matter how long I try to wait between calls, I still hit it :(
 
I'm stopping, see you guys later!
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I like to hammer to the String to Date canonical for those ones
 
@Tunaki I didn't because of joda
ahh
there's a joda in there
cool
 
11:11 PM
yeah
if not, there should be :)
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
11:29 PM
cya @Tuna
 
cya tuna guy
 
Cya!
 
I finally diagnosed myself with "answer box allergy": stackoverflow.com/questions/39260344/… :P
 
Welcome to the team
 
yesterday, by dorukayhan
i just noticed that i like answering "plz send teh ez" questions
 
11:37 PM
@Rizier123 Barmar is an answer guy
 
so this should be the exact opposite of that
 
Yup. I hope you know about the "Regex tag life cycle":
1) "Plzzz give me teh regex code" question gets posted
2) Someone posts a "regex code only" answer
3) Many upvotes and reputation everywhere
4) OP does not know how to modify the regex in the slightest or needs a new one;
The answer was just a regex only one and he knows that when he asks he will get his answer without any effort, so he goes back to step 1.
 
@Rizier123 what if you throroughly explain how does the regex work?
 
I think @JarrodRoberson had a great quote on meta once, something like "I think it is time for regex.SE"
 
@dorukayhan then you get outgunned
 
11:43 PM
@dorukayhan Well that maybe makes the answer better, but depending on the asked question OP either did their research and really appreciate the explanation and he finally knows what is going on and how to solve the question, and maybe even further problems, OR OP just asked for code and they got it, they don't care about the explanation and they will just ask again if they need code.
 
definitely outgunned. SO is not for thoroughness
 
@JanDvorak not if you answer unanswered questions
 
HF
What delay do you use?
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I dont think it is the seconds that matter
 
user4639281
I think it is how many requests per minute
 
user4639281
11:49 PM
or per five minutes
 
user4639281
or something like that
 
user4639281
Because I can monitor it all night and not be rate liited
 
@dorukayhan Even a simple answer gains value from an explanation, because if OP is really stuck with their brain on a simple thing, then an answer with a good explanation will mostly have multiple "catch points" where OP's confusion can get solved.
Plus if you write well written messages in chat you can get lots of stars :P
 
user4639281
who flagged that?
 
user4639281
11:52 PM
If you have a problem with a chat message in here, please notify an RO. Flagging chat messages in here should be your last resort
 
@TinyGiant Agreed, sleeping is seriously overrated ;)
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ FAQ sleep
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Op already deleted.
 
@TinyGiant frequent answer is Nope! Left from suppressed childhood may be :P
@BrockAdams Good so
 

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