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12:21 AM
rude ^
 
seriously? I thought he was done...
 
Is it good philosophy to give rep (by accepting and upvoting) to lower rep users if they have a correct answer and it was posted at relatively the same time when an answer from a higher rep user is present?
 
@AndrewL. upvote an answer if it is useful and/or correct
and if it isn't plagiarism or a no-effort answer
it's not our job to "correct" unfairness in voting patterns by redistributing wealth (votes) to those less fortunate... in fact attempts to do so exacerbate the problem and make the system less accurate/helpful
 
user4639281
^ That
 
if the user's answers are good they'll get upvoted. A user will gain rep eventually if they contribute good stuff... no need to rush it
I have over 10k rep now and I still answer some questions and get beaten by a low-rep user, so it's not an unheard of occurrence
(in b4 Tiny Giant says my answers suck)
 
user4639281
12:35 AM
lol
 
user4639281
I've never said your answers suck :P
 
user4639281
That I remember anyway
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. Vote on content, not context. When it comes to voting, the user doesn't matter at all
 
@TylerH you sound like a economist :P
 
wait a second, am i seriously the only one in smokedetector's !!/notify list?
 
12:43 AM
@TinyGiant @TylerH Ok, although I swear I've seen a meta post where the accepted answerer recommends to do what I said
 
user4639281
@dorukayhan I believe they were implementing something so that only members on this list would be notified if they are in the room
 
@TinyGiant oh
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. I've seen a meta post saying pretty well anything you can think of
 
user4639281
Doesn't mean they were all correct
 
There are many weird things on meta. From free hand circles to tim losing his keys.
 
user4639281
12:47 AM
yes there are
 
user4639281
there's even turd polishing
 
user4639281
hi @Jarrod o/
 
You can dress a turd up and give it some makeup — but it's still a turd
 
user4639281
Except when it isn't
 
??!1
 
user4639281
12:49 AM
did you follow the link?
 
user177800
@TinyGiant hi
 
user4639281
How've ya been?
 
@TinyGiant If you dress up a turd and it becomes a non-turd, it isn't a turd
 
user177800
@AndrewL. no an unrecognizable turd is is still a turd, you just don't realize it is a turd until you bite into it.
 
Gives me a good reason to play with the disguised turd before taking a huge bite
 
user4639281
12:52 AM
Yeah, putting lipstick on a turd isn't going to make it not a turd, but there may be pearls that are covered in turd, which look like turds, but aren't
2
 
user4639281
@Braiam, that wasn't always true
 
Honestly the best thing I've heard all week
 
user177800
 
"mm, taste like dog shit, good thing we don't step in it"
 
user4639281
Let's keep the cuss words to a minimum please.
 
1:54 AM
 
2:05 AM
Whoever made "plop" a thing... did they read Condorito?
 
user4639281
That was @Kyll
 
2:29 AM
How's SOCVR @ nite?
 
nite and sunday
 
yep, work tomorrow
 
user4639281
Hey gunr o/
 
@Tunaki Peter reopened this question. I had it closed as a duplicate of this. What do you think?
 
3:01 AM
How would I go about requesting privileges to Smokey?
 
3:35 AM
@AndrewL. you sure you really want it
there are different rooms like 2 or 3
be careful for what you ask for bro
 
Well, I just wanted to report something offensive. Sure, I'll take it.
 
There is like the Charcoal room
 
Charcoal HQ?
 
I don't even know if I am privileged anymore. It was a sordid history
 
So should I want it? Is the privilege not a privilege?
 
user3956566
3:44 AM
@tripleee I got the populist badge on your meta question and you apologised for not accepting my answer ;) p.s. thanks for not accepting my answer
 
Congrats @Yvette
 
only go for the slam dunks to start
 
You've pretty much scared me out of asking for privileges
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. why not, you could help with flagging spam on all the sites, I will pledge for you
 
user3956566
3:46 AM
oh hang on, I'm referring to reporting spam on all the SE sites. Not just in here
 
Ok, so I just hop in the room and say 'Me want priveljez' or?
 
user3956566
yes
 
Okee dokee
@Yvette I've gained 150 rep in two days, going to reach 2k soon :)
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. Oh, I'm really pleased to hear that. In all honesty that is the best thing you can do to help (get close votes)
 
@Yvette peeps smokedetect flag out of Charcoal right
 
user3956566
3:49 AM
It's much harder with the delete votes. I need 29 rep to get one more vote and it's like.. man I get that one vote and then have to start again for another thousand for the next vote after that
 
you mean 2k
 
user3956566
@Drew I'm am trying to make sense of this sentence, can you consider rephrasing that
 
user3956566
> peeps smokedetect flag out of Charcoal right
 
@Yvette ducks do you flag out of Charcoal
or here
 
user3956566
@Drew Andrew's referring to close votes I'm referring to del votes
 
3:50 AM
Still makes zero sense
 
user3956566
@Drew oh yes
 
user3956566
How are you ducks? :)
 
@Yvette to get another del vote you need to up the anty by 2k no (rep)
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. oh we call each other ducks (my fault).
 
user3956566
@Drew ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, sob
 
3:51 AM
ooh, haha
 
user3956566
ok so it's even rep then so I will get one when I reach 12k
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. I know depressing right
 
Quite ;).
 
user3956566
hang on I shall go to meta with a request footsteps fading
 
the ducks reference was kinda funny
 
3:52 AM
Notice 'kinda'
 
because one time Yv called us something different
exchange a vowel
 
user3956566
@Drew please feel free to edit this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283997/…
 
user3956566
a client just called
 
It's an almost perfect dupe: stackoverflow.com/q/39198251/5647260read the comment and then the q title
 
I lack rights but I threw it in the queue @Yvette
@Yvette the delete counts are racheted back so we don't go crazy
 
user4639281
3:58 AM
Hey everybody
 
frankly I cant even see my edit. I lack se rank
 
Hi TinyGiant
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. You should start by suggesting reports and having privileged users review your reports, if you prove that you can report properly, then you get privileges.
 
I just noticed how oxymoronic your name is
 
user4639281
That's the point
 
user4639281
4:01 AM
A tiny giant would be a normal sized person
 
The report I put in earlier was spam and was deleted
 
user4639281
Ok, just letting you know the procedure
 
Ok :)
 
I must admit I was pondering the oxymoronic name today even
 
user4639281
At least it is memorable and somewhat unique
 
user4639281
4:03 AM
(removed)
 
user4639281
 
user3956566
@Drew it didn't show pending edits :/
 
user4639281
awe darn, broken link
 
Oh noes!
 
user4639281
off to fix the script
 
4:04 AM
@Yvette I would not propose that meta thing
it has to limit it to 20 or so
25 idk
 
user4639281
>How many times can I vote to delete per day?

At 10,000 reputation, you can cast 5 delete votes per day. An additional vote is granted per 1000 reputation, to a maximum of 30 delete votes per day.
2
 
user4639281
@Yvette
 
30 sounds reasonable
 
user4639281
What you're asking for is the way it actually is
 
4:08 AM
idk TG. Are you sure
 
user4639281
Unless the help center is wrong
 
I thought you got 1 more del vote per 2k rep
 
user4639281
Well, it does say 1000 on the help center page about it
 
user4639281
I'm not making it up
 
user4639281
Umm, it is an extra vote every 1,000 reputation and has been since the increased delete vote feature was implemented. — animuson ♦ 2 mins ago
 
user4639281
4:10 AM
^^ Neither is animuson
 
user3956566
sorry on phone
 
dont I feel like a moron
 
> Chalco, Nebraska
Meanwhile I'm in Omaha, Nebraska
 
user4639281
Ladysmith, BC, Canada
 
I guess there's a minimum time for Smokey privileges?
 
user4639281
4:21 AM
not one set in stone
 
> Pinging @rene but I believe Andrew hasn't been in there for long enough. :/ hichris123
 
user4639281
but if you're regularly replying to the smokey posts correctly, even though smokey won't be listening to you, then once we're confident that you aren't going to burn the world down, you will get privileges
 
what is the command in here for amipriv
 
user4639281
!!/amiprivileged
 
@TinyGiant Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
4:22 AM
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Drew Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
sucker
 
Ahh, I should learn some Smokey commands
:(
 
well they changed the page i think
@AndrewL. so there was this whole thing like 6 months ago
about blacklisting people
so smokey is well risky
 
user4639281
4:25 AM
Dec 20 '15 at 21:42, by Tiny Giant
Notice: Smokey is for tracking spam, and offensive content. It is not for stalking regular users who happen to exhibit behaviors that you disagree with. If you see some behavior that you disagree with, please do not blacklist the user with smokey, instead use a custom moderator flag and explain what you think the problem is. This room is about content, not users.
 
Thanks!
 
user3956566
@Drew lolol deleted
 
user3956566
ok I'm working gotta go
 
lol
 
user3956566
4:27 AM
IKR emarrassing lol
 
Plop
 
user3956566
anti plop
 
user3956566
watch avatars on the right and you will understand
 
!!/isblu 1816093
 
@Drew Invalid format. Valid format: !!/isblu profileurl or !!/isblu userid sitename.
 
user4639281
4:29 AM
Plopalot
 
Smokey is pretty intricate
 
user4639281
Smokey is getting quite mature.
 
@Drew User is not blacklisted (1816093 on stackoverflow.com).
 
The answer is also sarcastic.
 
user4639281
4:35 AM
@Enzokie too broad or mcve
 
user4639281
or no repro
 
@Yvette absolutely no problem d-:
good morning
 
ok
 
you really never do sleep, do you
 
@TinyGiant I am not allowed to retract my flags right?
 
user4639281
4:36 AM
It is a debugging question, without enough details to solve the problem, and as such it cannot be reproduced
 
user4639281
@Enzokie No, just for future reference
 
user4639281
A big part of this room is learning
 
user4639281
The other part is teaching
 
I learned few things yay :D
 
@Enzokie that was a pretty funny answer
 
user4639281
4:37 AM
and then a sliver of fun somewhere in between
 
@Drew oh yeah ;)
 
NAA?
Good morning @tripleee!
 
user4639281
don't flag it
 
user4639281
No flag applies
 
But why?
 
user4639281
4:40 AM
It is an attempted answer, and does not have severe content or formatting issues
 
user4639281
Downvote and, if you have 20k+ rep, delete vote
 
user4639281
then move on
 
user4639281
Flags aren't meant as a substitute for delete votes
 
Ok
 
4:44 AM
@TinyGiant are we really saying that is an answer, throw it in a lake
Because I am wllling to go there with it
 
user4639281
It is an attempted answer
 
you and I are trouble
 
user4639281
It's isn't a good answer, even a half decent answer, not even worth the screen space it takes up, however it isn't not an answer
 
I went with rude
 
we have to take a stand and defend it Trip
 
4:46 AM
Well that's debatable. Does 'an attempted humorous but obviously non-serious time-wasting unhelpful answer' == 'an actual attempted answer'
 
it wastes the time of the asker and everyone else
 
Editing on mobile chat is horrid
 
@AndrewL. absolutely agree
 
Who did upvote that answere? XD
 
I did
 
4:47 AM
lol
 
user4639281
It doesn't technically qualify.
 
Honestly though, I'd argue to say it's NAA. Sure it's attempted but it wastes time and helps no one.
 
user4639281
Just because something is a really bad answer doesn't mean that it is not an answer
 
Fine :/
 
user4639281
> Flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer
 
4:49 AM
@TinyGiant if it doesn't earnestly attempt to solve the OP's problem, it's NAA
 
user4639281
It doesn't have to, it just has to be phrased as an answer
 
user4639281
He does even offer a solution, buy an iphone.
 
But phrasing something as an answer doesn't make it a legitimate attempt
 
make fish food
 
user4639281
Whether that is correct or not is not a matter for flagging
 
user4639281
4:51 AM
@AndrewL. It doesn't have to be a solution
 
user4639281
It doesn't have to be correct
 
user4639281
it doesn't have to be courteous
 
we don't need to steer or answer just attempt
 
I worded that wrong; I meant to say as an attempt
 
user4639281
If it is incorrect, downvote it
 
user4639281
4:52 AM
if you don't like it, downvote it
 
user4639281
If tim loses his keys, downvote it
 
we don't even need to answer well. Just humor
 
@TinyGiant that's just snarky
 
user4639281
@tripleee 7 years ago
 
Tim loses his keys too much. Shouldn't he get his short term memory checked?
 
4:53 AM
@TinyGiant that too
 
user4639281
@tripleee It is an attempted solution though
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. He's a monkey, he doesn't have short term memory
 
it is one stupid answer in 10k
 
Makes a lot more sense
 
@TinyGiant if you are asking for directions on the street, a technically accurate answer would be "any direction really, if you go far enough" but that is not helpful at all and not particularly funny, especially if you are in a hurry
 
user4639281
4:54 AM
Downvote content which is not useful
 
user4639281
Content being not useful is not a reason to flag
 
user4639281
There is no "This answer is not useful" flag for a reason
 
it is also a great way to get a flag rejected
 
@TinyGiant okay, fair enough
 
user4639281
Usefulness is entirely too subjective, and can only be roughly measured over a period of time by votes, and that isn't always a useful statistic
 
user4639281
4:56 AM
If you're objective about it, is it technically offering an attempted solution to a problem?
 
user4639281
Whether you subjectively think it is snarky is irrelevant
 
dont lose NAA flags over the concept
oh well snarky is awesome.
 
user4639281
We humans tend to put far too much humanity into the mechanics of things
 
the guy with the snarky answer just helped a guy looking for free goods
just don't make it so over the top
don't be a Martin James about it
 
The anti-fun committee will a hard time sleeping tonight after seeing that answer.
 
user3956566
5:03 AM
@tripleee who never really sleeps?
 
don't lose your sense of humor at the door. We don't get paid for this. Just dont be a jerk
 
user3956566
I slept for 20 hours out of 24 recently, I became so sleep deprived
 
@Yvette good morning (^:
 
user3956566
@tripleee true, ;)
 
gush stackoverflow.com/questions/39159457/… <--- flag reason : Not a programming related right? I ask because I lost my confidence in flagging.
 
5:06 AM
Night all o/"
 
@Enzokie I think trying to ask about an API, just doing it very poorly. I went too-broad.
 
Ah I see
 
user4639281
I agree with too broad
 
user4639281
hahahahahaha
 
user4639281
5:15 AM
definitely looks like spam when you look at that revision
 
user3956566
@Drew I miss martin
 
mj
 
user4639281
martin's great when you need a good dose of skepticism
 
gm all
 
@Yvette I do too
 
5:17 AM
Revsion 3 is strange: stackoverflow.com/posts/39198863/revisions (" added 218 characters in body " ?)
 
user3956566
@ColdFire \o
 
@Yvette gm handsome guy
 
user3956566
@ColdFire I know I'm gorgeous ;)
 
user3956566
You're the only one here who appreciates how much I appreciate my own handsomeness ;)
 
haha ok
 
user3956566
5:21 AM
I appreciate you appreciation
 
haha ok give me go daddy question to smash
 
user3956566
@ColdFire they are all closed, it is only delete votes left pats for comfort on no more smashable godaddies
 
@Yvette :(
 
user4639281
@yvette did you see that godaddy closure dispute earlier?
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant no. where? as opposed to nowhere
 
user4639281
5:31 AM
 
user3956566
thnx
 
user4639281
np
 
this question is closed again @@
 
user4639281
I really don't see how it is too broad
 
@TinyGiant It probably is a dupe though: Why json_decode doesn't work for me? I just don't know if it makes sense to close it since it can no longer be confirmed.
 
user3956566
5:40 AM
 
user3956566
@ColdFire why are you worried about this. It's not repod any way
 
@Yvette well since the meta post sayed it is on topic question and should be reopened
 
user4639281
Honestly, a big part of burninations being successful, and the future of burninations, is everybody being ok with us doing the burninations, if we can't let some OK questions live, we're just going to sour everyone against it and have more problems.
 
user4639281
I personally don't want another burnination ban
 
user3956566
@ColdFire it's still a matter of opinion and you cannot control how people use their votes
 
user3956566
5:43 AM
@TinyGiant I agree, I removed the godaddy tag from quite a few posts. I personally think the question is no repro
 
user4639281
Gotta know when to hold em, and when to fold em
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant i.e. I agree
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
I am thinking this is no longer an issue right?
 
user3956566
5:49 AM
Just getting my facts straight here
 
@Yvette I don't really know. I'm sure some servers in the word are so hopelessly outdated they still have an old enough version and have it enabled. I don't know if GoDaddy is in that group. The OP isn't using such a server anymore though.
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara I assumed it was a past issue with godaddy
 
user3956566
But maybe I'm wrong
 
user3956566
I learnt some time ago godaddy is only for Purchasing domain names and hosting basic sites. Even domain name renewal prices are hiked up with godaddy
 
Ish, it was also a past issue with PHP, as a fail solution to issues with SQL injection. People took issue with it, so the issue of magic_quotes was officially resolved by removing it completely. But then there's the issue of servers being stuck in the past.
 
user3956566
5:58 AM
done
 
done
 

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