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9:00 PM
@Braiam Thank you for helping me in the meta discussion
 
9:15 PM
@QPaysTaxes Link to original post?
 
@QPaysTaxes it was never linked from the transcript
 
@QPaysTaxes My ^ was referring to Mog's comment about this quote :)
@QPaysTaxes it's a comment on one of my recent answers imgur.com/rmVHFhB
:)
 
rene passed an audit!
 
wow...
@CLosey next tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@NobodyNada The next 3 tags are: friendship 1337, reactjs 54, selenium 42
@NobodyNada I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
9:25 PM
Anyone want a Keybase invite? I just got a whole horde of them
 
what's that?
 
bah
 
A website to share keys :P
 
@Yam die
Seriously!
Oops... Is Yam really dead?
@Yam die
 
Yam
9:27 PM
@PraveenKumar You must be a room owner or moderator to kill me. Please contact your local Sam for further assistance.
 
it doesn't listen to replies?
 
Then why didn't you answer me before?
 
@Yam die
 
Looks so!
 
@Yam die
 
Yam
9:27 PM
@NobodyNada You must be a room owner or moderator to kill me. Please contact your local Sam for further assistance.
 
yep
 
Okay, Yam's my Sam's girlfriend. Only I will kill her. :D
 
If you encrypt a message using someone's public key, the only way to decrypt it is with their private key.
 
@QPaysTaxes Pretty much everything in security.
:P
 
Hey @Undo! :)
Didn't see you! :)
 
9:29 PM
Oy
 
@QPaysTaxes I thought you were talking about me for a second
 
@NobodyNada unless you are the NSA, they decrypt eveything.
 
@Undo brb, booting up spam services
 
@Tunaki Good luck with that :P
 
@Tunaki you don't get it, do you?
 
9:33 PM
@Tunaki sending spam to earwax?
stupid auto-correct ---------^^^^^
 
Wow, can't believe that went through
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 52 minutes and 32 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 18 seconds.
 
The domain probably helps
there ya go
 
@Undo Have you seen the meta discussion about the C++17 question?
 
@NobodyNada Mostly been doing Real Work today, so no. Do I want to? :P
 
9:40 PM
I was just wondering what your thoughts were about it, if you had seen it.
 
oh, that's a hard one.
 
@NobodyNada Is not about the "C++17" question, is about if "list of features" are allowed
do not make it about that question, you are going to lose
I bet everyone would agree if that example wasn't used
 
yeah, my answer had a lot of support, until I linked to it from the C++17 question
 
The better way to gather support: do not bother the hornets
 
You get fairly good at producing crap by reading crap all day
I don't see why those shouldn't be on-topic. They're not too broad, unclear, or opinion based; there's a definitive, objective 'right' answer.
And they're very much about programming.
 
9:43 PM
@Undo "Did you know that he loves to read your posts?" :P
 
I can't type
Yeah, I send in the really weird ones every once in a while
 
@QPaysTaxes So don't ask about the latest version, ask about a version and you don't have that problem
 
@Undo I prefer reading the changelog... is meant to do this
 
I don't really see why we need a special set of rules for this - they fit pretty squarely in with the current close reasons.
@Braiam Great! Maybe some other people don't. That's not a bad thing.
 
9:46 PM
yeah, the too broad one.
 
@Braiam Explain to me why a question asking for a bulleted list of what changed between two versions is too broad.
 
@Undo that's horrendous thing... do you imagine a SO where every 3 questions is "what is the features of X.something?"
 
@Undo I thought it was too broad because it requires a really long answer, but that makes sense too.
 
@Undo simple: is a bullet list
 
It really depends on how long is "too long for this format."
 
9:47 PM
@Braiam Then we'd have a problem. We both know that's not going to happen.
@Braiam ... why are bulleted lists now off-topic?
They're a remarkably effective way to communicate.
 
@Undo itemized list has been since 2011
@Undo communicate what?
@Undo I prefer not having the worry that it can happen, not even in an alternate universe
 
I'd be fine with questions asking for shorter lists, but it just seems to me like 40 features is too much for a SO answer.
 
I'm a proactive guy: I don't like to see train wrecks,. I prevent them from wreaking in the first place
 
sorry to drag you into this discussion @Undo
 
@NobodyNada how about: I'm trying to use <new feature> but I don't think is doing what I think it should do
 
9:52 PM
Yeah, that is definitely on-topic
 
@Undo btw, do you know why it won't happen? Because people don't ask those kind of questions. They have no need for them.
 
@Braiam Great! So then they won't be asked and we don't have to worry about it
But there's obviously some kind of need here.
 
@Undo which is perfectly fulfilled by the C++ committee
 
I remember when I first earned close vote privileges, I had a really hard time figuring out what was too broad. I looked all over Meta and the help center, but I could not find anything that explained exactly how broad was too broad. Eventually, I figured it out by looking at examples and asking people here in SOCVR whether certain questions were too broad or not, but I never really found objective guidance, and I think the lack of that is what's causing the problem here.
 
@NobodyNada This
 
9:58 PM
SO should go on with its business and not trying to divert
213
A: Improving "demonstrate a minimal understanding" close reason

jmacAnalogy Time A good question-answer pair is like collaborative problem solving. The asker has a big puzzle they are trying to solve, and are stuck on some part of it. A good question will explain what it's trying to achieve as well as the specific problem they are currently facing ...

 
Anyway, I have better things to do. I've voted accordingly on that question & the answers and will try to keep tabs on what happens with it.
 
Alright, thank you @Undo. I really respect you a lot
 
Likewise :)
 
@Braiam Yeah, but that isn't a clear line -- in the opinion of you and me, the list question meets the "too broad" criteria, but in some others' opinions, it doesn't.
 
10:23 PM
actually, too broad is just the only reason I can pick of the standard ones, my problem is the poor re-usability and duplication of information that it entails
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis FYI, Meta post on a question you hammered meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327048/…
 
@QPaysTaxes do you really have to go to SO to know that?
do you really trust what a random guy says on internet?
 
@Braiam wait, you can't trust them?
 
10:39 PM
@Tunaki that what the NSA wants you to
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes in the answer the OP says something that show no repo also, and yes I agree
 
@Tunaki Thanks, you guys have it under control. You can even reopen for that other post you found. Question is unclear, but since edit there's at least a hint that it's about the form taglib.
 
Bah I don't want to. As I said in the Meta, they didn't post the view so can't be sure actually
 
10:55 PM
haha
 
user3956566
@Tunaki bah humbug
 
@Petter the defuser :)
 
user3956566
just used all my votes. I'm struggling to use them all these days
 
Cya o/
 
11:07 PM
Dang, that was fast
 
@JacobGray Perhaps it was undone.
 
@TIPS It was deleted, I clicked my notification just in time to see it go bye bye
 
@JacobGray Check who confirmed it and you will see what Tips intended.
 
Haha, gotcha
 
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11:20 PM
@Closey you alright bud?
 
@Closey Do you try to tell us something?
 
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Q: Should we del [del]?

Filip HaglundThere's around 100 questions tagged del. They cover redis, python, android, cmd, gulp, vba and pretty much all other things that have a del command/statement/keyword. There is no tag wiki. All the top voted questions talk about the del keyword in python, so maybe there's a use-case there? I don...

 
maybe lost connection to something... (these .net stacktrace reads klingon to me)
 
It had that same error a bunch yesterday I think, then Jon Clements shut it down
 
11:40 PM
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@Sam I think Closey misses you ^^ :P
 
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@Clo alive
 
@NobodyNada I feel... happy!
 
Sam
Sigh
@Clo stop bot
 
11:44 PM
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Shutting down. (Sam's Backup Server)
 
wait just a second before stopping...
sorry, too late
I think it might have thrown an error every time I finished a review
 
Sam
I'd clean up the transcript if I could, but I'm on my phone atm...
@NobodyNada good to know
 
I'm not completely sure though, and I think it was erring before I started reviewing
(Is that a proper usage of erring?)
 
Sam
@Braiam The only useful part is: Connection reset by peer
 
I did notice though that the last couple errors happened right about the time I finished reviewing
Maybe it was whenever anyone finishes reviewing, not just a member? I don't know enough about how Closey works.
 
Sam
11:47 PM
Strange
I'll have to debug this tomorrow.
 
ok, goodnight
 
Sam
o/
 

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