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7:00 PM
Plop @Ferry =D
 
@Kyll How many inbox notifications did you get as present today?
 
@rene Plop! Sorry, I seem to have spilled Spearrels everywhere
@Ferrybig See starred message
 
@Kyll ahh, the onebox
 
@Kyll we clean-up the mess afterwards ...
 
@Kyll Also, congratulations on your birth day
 
7:01 PM
@Ferrybig Thanks :D
 
@Kyll then ur 2 dead 4 me
 
@TylerH Aww. Very well, are the books in order or do I have to pick a story?
 
@Kyll Well start with Mossflower
then Redwall
or vice versa
but those two first
Mossflower is first chronologically I think
except for some, y'know, "side" stories
I'm sure a google search will give you an exhaustive list
 
Wow, @TylerH you are 300 off 10k. Congrats
 
@BhargavRao ty
 
7:04 PM
@TylerH Got it!
 
@TylerH such as Reneblossom?
 
that could actually be the name of a character in the series
 
@Kyll Busy at work for about 5-6 weeks, now.
 
@Mogsdad Got some free time now?
 
Some today, but tomorrow it will start all over.
 
7:07 PM
@Undo How about this? i.stack.imgur.com/4YEIN.jpg
 
Ooooo, so cute
 
@KevinGuan I'm going to make this a pull request so I can make some comments on it
 
@Kyll License info?
 
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@Kyll why are you here? Aren't you celebrating?
 
@Undo Aw, copyrighted. Trying to find another one.
@Yvette Celebrated enough for the day
 
7:11 PM
Yeah, that was the issue I ran into
Can't find a suitable one in public domain or otherwise usable
 
@Kyll Fête de la Musique!
 
in The Ministry of Silly Hats, 13 mins ago, by Kyll
Probably not, way too tired and drunk
 
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@Kyll meet me in slack
 
@gunr2171 That was so not supposed to get into SOCVR xD
 
too late
 
7:14 PM
lol:D
the spearrel's out of the bag
 
@Tunaki Waaay too many people actually, it was getting crazy
 
@BhargavRao Its a consequence of auto adding new users >3k, I do not think it creates much noise.
 
@PetterFriberg Yeah, I guess we should disable the auto add feature here (as you mentioned only ROs can add people) But as Tuna mentioned, "meh" :)
 
@KevinGuan we are looking into it, expect some feedback from some of us.
 
hey @Kyll
 
7:17 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis What do you think of the 'new' question now? stackoverflow.com/q/37951543/1743880
 
Plop Mag
 
We've had a Kyllbrigade all day
 
I don't know love.
 
@Magisch Yep!
 
@Tunaki What is love?
 
7:19 PM
It is the reverse of evol.
 
We painted this room Spearrel the entire day, to celebrate your birthday
 
And it is also a 4-letter word.
 
@Yvette what happens in slack stays in slack
@Kyll I'd read that
 
@TylerH :D
 
Bye all \o
 
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7:27 PM
@TylerH def
 
@Undo Bloody hell, that was tedious. What about this? (Source) (CC-BY-SA)
 
lol
k
 
Like it?
 
Works for me for now
 
\o/
 
7:45 PM
\o/
 
@tunaki I think it's more clear, but your comment is correct. That's why I hate people answering directly when the question isn't clear.
anyway gtg lol, ttyl
 
ok thanks I'm not crazy
Cya o/
 
Man, I love paired programming with my boss because he's good, but his breath is terrible
 
user3956566
that's why I work remotely
 
@Yvette Because you have bad breath?
 
7:49 PM
I'm out for a while, meeting time
 
o/
 
user3956566
@Kyll punches Kyll in head
 
That's literally offensive! :p
 
I'm gunr2171 and I approve this violence.
3
 
user3956566
@Kyll yes!
 
7:52 PM
Thanks, we'll quote you on that for the future.
 
Oh yes.
 
yessss Archer got renewed for three more seasons
 
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@gunr2171 aren't you supposed to be on holiday?
 
@TylerH Seriously?! NICE!
 
That's 10 seasons total!!
 
7:54 PM
This is going to be amazing
 
user3956566
that's awesome!!!
 
user3956566
who's Archer?
2
 
@Yvette it is the holiday meeting, so technically he is on holiday now ...
 
I have a love-hate relationship with Archer: I hate myself for loving the show.
 
@ryanyuyu Haha
 
user3956566
7:55 PM
@rene holiday meeting? RO meeting?
 
nvm
 
@Yvette TV show
 
@Yvette what?? you don't know who Archer is?
 
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@rene oh joke. soz didn't follow
 
user3956566
@user2314737 I love Archer!!!
 
user3956566
7:55 PM
what show and who's Archer?
 
@Yvette oh okay I was just wondering
 
Sterling Archer
 
user3956566
I really don't know who Archer is. blank expression O<O
 
the star of the show
 
@Yvette Btw, there are 4 users who go by "sterling archer" (case insensitive)
 
user3956566
7:57 PM
which show?
 
@Yvette the show
 
user3956566
Ok she goes to google
 
user3956566
fading footsteps
 
I have to say, the writing of Archer, considering the audience it targets, is possibly the best writing of a tv show I've ever seen
 
@Yvette It's called Archer
 
7:57 PM
@Yvette maybe you want to let us know what you found out
 
user3956566
Ok reporting back It's a cartoon
 
And it's funny and insensitive.
 
and awesome
 
user3956566
I reckon Visual Studio has an inbuilt function that when you load really sucky code it crashes.
 
^^
 
8:01 PM
@Yvette It does. That is how I test if the code in a question is even worth looking at ;)
 
@Yvette yeah, it's called "Treat compiler warnings as errors"
 
You mean it's not supposed to crash very often?!
...geez
 
user3956566
rewriting a rewrite of a wordpress site with php web app into mvc
 
user3956566
it has views with php and all sorts of js and css style sheets and null layouts
 
user3956566
I really think SO should introduce best practices as on topic
 
user3956566
8:05 PM
cos the programmers who wrote it didn't care
 
I don't think that would go down to well.
 
user3956566
I know, but when I see such bad code... sigh
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha i wanted to thank you and I got the 10k finally
 
@Undo How about using this picture then?
 
heh ;)
 
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8:09 PM
@Undo you ever want a custom avatar I'll make you one like that one I made smokey
 
!!/tea
 
@ryanyuyu brews a cup of earl grey tea for @ryanyuyu
 
Was it that one ^^ @Yvette
 
user3956566
 
8:14 PM
Hah
that's great
I'm gonna stick with the squirrel one for a while, though
 
user3956566
it's professional and smick
 
user3956566
I can redo @ArtOfCode's unprofessional smokey avatar if you like, just give me the nod
 
user3956566
 
JAL
wow, gone for a day and the Spearrels our out in full force
 
JAL
8:22 PM
hi bye Nathan
 
@JAL Plop! :D
 
JAL
o/
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
rene passed a audit!
 
8:44 PM
rene passed an audit!
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 13 minutes and 48 seconds, averaging to a review every 20 seconds.
ryanyuyu passed an audit!
 
@Kyll Happy Birthday!
 
Thanks Jacob :D
 
ryanyuyu passed a audit!
 
@Yvette that was the tail end of last week
 
I forgot to remove [moderation] from my close votes reviews filters, and it makes audits really easy to spot.
 
8:51 PM
i'm back for about 10 minutes, then driving home
 
9:21 PM
I have a dilemma
 
Shoot.
 
coding is hard
do I endure or run away screaming
 
do you develop php?
 
(that's not my real dilemma but it might as well be at this moment)
@AndrasDeak no thank god
 
then there's hope;D
 
9:23 PM
My real dilemma is that I have a while loop which counts the number of items in a dropdown list. After that, I have a for loop, where I need to select each item in the list and do some stuff, and then start the loop over and select the next item, etc.
And I can't figure out how to go thru the whole for loop once and then on the 2nd round through, select the 2nd item (etc.)
 
I'm not sure I understand your specific problem, but then again I assume your almost-question is of a rhetorical nature
 
@TylerH Kinda needing to see the code
 
the difficulty is that it's not like .NET or JS or something people tend to know
lemme throw it in a sandbox somewhere
 
you can also try some nice pseudocode
I'm having difficulties understanding what you're looping over exactly
 
@AndrasDeak I'm putting some code together but basically I am counting the # of items in a dropdown menu in one loop, and then in a separate loop, I am trying to select and submit (and then return to the beginning page) each item in the dropdown menu, one per loop iteration
 
9:32 PM
yeah, but I don't see where you have to restart each loop over items, instead of select -> submit -> select next -> etc, but it might be due to my not knowing any webprog
ooh, you have only 2 loops, and you want to do away with the second
right?
 
well, if doing away with the second loop happens in the course of my solving my problem, I'm OK with that
but my goal is not directly to get rid of the second loop
 
hmm
 
the second loop has way more stuff in it that happens after, but is not relevant to this issue
 
wait, I'll reread what you said, and give up if I still don't get it:)
I don't want to waste your time
 
the issue is, the first loop (the while loop) runs and says "You have 4 dropdown entries". The second loop needs to say "select the first entry, submit the page(basically), return, select the second entry, submit the page, return" until it has done that 4 times
 
9:35 PM
is it OK that your MouseClick calls don't depend on the loop counter?
 
The issue is, the # of dropdown entries is variable
@AndrasDeak Yes MouseClick just tells the program to send a mouse click
 
OK, then I'm missing way too much background, sorry:)
maybe the spearrel can help
 
At this point I'm actually thinking I may need to get rid of the first loop
that is, incorporate the while loop into the process of selecting an option somehow
 
sorry, I'm still stuck at "cursor position not depending on loop variable". If that's the case, how does that happen? Does the first item disappear when you submit?
 
Oh
I thought you just meant in general
 
9:43 PM
there's no general for me, only your 23 lines of code:)
 
Yes in the second loop the mouse cursor position needs to be further down the screen depending on the iteration
 
wait, for n items, you'd have n loops in principle?
 
so first iteration the cursor would be at y=324, the second would be at y=340, etc.
 
is that the problem?
 
for n items I'd have n iterations of the second loop
the first loop determines how many iterations the 2nd loop needs to have
 
9:44 PM
bah
OK, I misread one of your messages
OK then
so can't you put all the clicking goodness to the while loop? In the same place where you determine that $hEpisodesAmt++, you can also do all the clicking necessary. You might even have the coordinates at hand
 
I suppose
I would just have to totally rewrite it
 
after all most of the information you need is that "we still have something to click"
 
I'm not really experienced when it comes to writing code that has logic so when I get a piece that works I tend to cling on to it
 
Off to me tree, night!
 
night grampa @Kyll
 
9:49 PM
Good night Kyll
 
So, what exactly is your problem? Reading your original question, I'm not sure
 
it's all downhill from here btw
 
> And I can't figure out how to go thru the whole for loop once and then on the 2nd round through, select the 2nd item (etc.)
Are you simply having problems calculating the positions based on the loop variable? That's how I read your message, but that doesn't sound right:)
 
@AndrasDeak I wrote a loop that goes through a person's file and picks the first item of a dropdown menu and then hits submit so that it can print a form. OK, dandy. Now, I need to make it go through and do that for people who have, say, 3 or 4 items in their dropdown menu. So I wrote a separate while loop to check the number of items in the dropdown menu (I always need to print every item in the dropdown menu, however many there are).
My problem is that the new while loop logic is totally separate from the previous loop that does all the heavy lifting
So even if I transfer the knowledge of the while loop to the heavy lifting loop as, say, a variable, I don't know off the top of my head how to iterate through the loop so that the mouse clicks a different spot on the screen each iteration
first time the loop runs, the mouse should click at y=324. second time the loop runs, the mouse should click at y=340. third time, at y=356, and so on and so forth, for as many times as the new while loop tells it to run
 
why can't you just set y=308+$loopCounter*16?
this is my issue, this seems very straightforward, so I must be missing something:)
 
9:54 PM
I haven't tried that or thought of it so that might work
@AndrasDeak When I said "I'm not really experienced when it comes to writing code that has logic", I meant "I only ever do HTML and CSS so I suck big time at real programming"
 
so you're probably only missing the fact that I am like a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10 at programming skill
 
OK, I just expected your difficulty to be more of a language-specific nature
 
oh, no I am pretty sure it's just a basic logic issue
 
I got your issue a while back, I just didn't think that this was really your problem
 
9:56 PM
like, whether this is JS or C++ or .NET I wouldn't know how to do it
not that I know how to do anything in any of those languages in the first place... (well I sorta know some JS)
 
:)
what language is your code in?
 
AutoIt
it's an automation tool
 
oh, I thought that was the title
 
I think it's C-like but honestly I don't know
AutoIt is the title of the program
 
it's not
 
9:58 PM
the language doesn't really have a name
 
closer to fortran, at least how blocks are denoted and the 1-based indexing
 
I think most people use it to write bots for games
oh indexes are 0 based
 
ah:)
 
I mean, arrays
I dunno about other things
 
and the $var and Local $var thing reminds me of perl
(I know many other scripting languages do that too)
 
9:59 PM
some of the confusion is I'm sure due to the messiness of the bit I plucked out of the script
and the fact that pastebin is blocked at work here -_-
 
I'm a little unsure, in your suggestion you mentioned $loopCounter, but such a variable. Were you referring to $hEpisodesAmt?
If so, how do you suggest I chain them together so that as $hEpisodesAmt iterates, $loopCounter does too?
nvm I think you meant $intEpisodesCounter
 
I did mean that, but I wasn't sure if you wanted to keep the while or the for
 
for now I'm keeping both and I'm gonna test it on a person with one entry in the dropdown list
 
if you keep the while, it would be $hEpisodesAmt, in the for it would be $intEpisodesCounter
@TylerH test with 2;)
two items I mean
 
10:04 PM
Well I need to make sure the math is right first
 
yeah, sure:)
1 is simplest
 
Because I don't have a way to elegantly stop the script midrun yet
I have to ctrl+alt+del n stuff
 
Haha. Finally got steward for close votes.
 
it's not a great scripting tool
I'm going to look into Selenium after this thing is wrapped up
 
10:05 PM
    MouseClick("", 1080, 308+16*$intEpisodesCounter, 1, 1) ;in the middle line should be correct in my opinion
 
it sounds a lot nicer
@AndrasDeak yeah that's the logic I have though I did condense a line or two
 
@ryanyuyu congratulations:)
 
@ryanyuyu Congrats
I'm almost to 1000 helpful flags
 
@TylerH do you have to watch for what happens if there are too many entries and they don't fit in the screen?
 
Okay, my line initializing the For loop is wrong
 
10:09 PM
how so?
 
@AndrasDeak No there won't be any instances where someone has that many entries
I know that at least
 
umm...I just realized, isn't this too much noise for SOCVR? Not that anybody else is awake. Want to open a separate room?
 
We can if you want, nobody has complained yet so it's not really a problem
 
I am here. Was thinking that. But meh.
 
OK, Tunaki gave the green meh.
 
10:10 PM
:)
 
too late, we're here if @Kyll wants to catch up tomorrow:P
 
lol ok
 
but thanks anyway:)
 
whew they went away with me having to force them, awesome
 
[very passive]-aggressive spearrel Tuna:P
Now it's winter and silence and snow and death (translation of a line of a poem by myself). Happy now, @Tunaki?:P
 
10:17 PM
Very much.
I like winter. And snow. And silence.
 
@Tunaki I prefer spring. And sun. And music.
 
Both are lovely :)
 
JAL
sorry for the spam
 
that you loved winter and snow and silence?
 
JAL
10:29 PM
It's funny, I've been so busy that I haven't had a chance to review throughout the day. I'll spread these out next time
ha
 
Happiness is a myth.
There is only pain and sorrow.
 
and plop
 
Too long, too late :)
 
tl;dr: no he didn't
 
Is tl;dr: one or 2 words?
:p
 
10:36 PM
I got a LinkedIn request from a guy I don't know but I think it's one of you because in his description he says "Unisqurrel wrangler"
 
tl;dr: no
Ah okay it makes sense;
 
@QPaysTaxes somebody loves me!
I... well, I learned it from Krieger on Archer so...
Okay sheesh no need to rub it in
 
@TylerH :D
 
JAL
@QPaysTaxes meh, I don't think it is good fit for SO either way
but fair point
@QPaysTaxes I think performance is still unclear. time? space? etc
having trouble with formatting today
@QPaysTaxes fair, seems a little broad, but just shows lack of research
lol
unclear too
thanks
right, need more coffee
 
10:58 PM
@QPaysTaxes brews coffee for @QPaysTaxes
 
11:12 PM
Plop!
@Kyll =D
A pull request for my patch? Anyway, suggestions are always welcome as I said, so just do it :)
@rene Okay, so if you (I mean all the members here) find something wrong or could be improved there - just comment on Github, ping me here, or make a pull request. Suggestions are always welcome as said above.
 
11:35 PM
Bed time for me and when @BhargavRao wakes up HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
cya
 
Rob
11:56 PM
Night Petter
 

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