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Graduate diploma
 
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from high school you can then do some tafe certifications or an under grad degree (or both)
 
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when you graduate you can do post graduate study
 
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No it's above that
 
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a bachelor's degree is an undergraduate degree
 
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12:03 AM
no
 
user3956566
it's closer to a masters
 
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it's 4 subjects off completing a masters
 
user3956566
a diploma is under a bachelor's degree
 
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certificates I II III IV
 
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diploma
 
user3956566
12:04 AM
Bachelors == undergrad degree
 
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grad cert
 
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grad dip
 
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master then pHD
 
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@QPaysTaxes that's almost identical to here, except there's more in between
 
user3956566
we have assoc also
 
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12:06 AM
you can have certificates, diplomas etc, but also as post grad, so the layer continues after the bachelor
 
stop beating people, especially Yvette
 
Never bothered with that - just went straight to work at 16...
 
user3956566
yes! thank you
 
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@JonClements in my day we lived in cardboard boxes
 
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@QPaysTaxes yep it's similar
 
12:07 AM
@QPaysTaxes assuming that your major transfers
 
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@gunr2171 exactly
 
12:21 AM
Morning
 
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hi
 
2:22 AM
welp! tons of NAA's and crap flying around stackoverflow.com/q/37848650/1079354 also
@QPaysTaxes nah, just VTC or protect if you already voted
 
Rob
2:52 AM
No, it's fine.
The issue is that the .php files are being downloaded when people navigate to the site
Rather than his server executing the php and rendering the result
 
Sie
3:21 AM
So this is where the magic happens, huh?
Just taking a tour of some random rooms around SE out of boredom. That and I don't want to fix my code right at this moment.
 
SPAM!!!
@SmokeDetector remove this also please
 
 
1 hour later…
4:50 AM
@QPaysTaxes Huh? Smokey listens to edits. You're not a privileged user of Smokey are you?
Oh, I can make a PR if so. Give me a sec.
@SmokeDetector Link-only maybe?
@QPaysTaxes Yeah that's what I'm talking about. But since there's a [description of benefits of ecommerce], I think they're trying to help...huh, or tell others what my site is. Let me check if that site is helpful or just spam...
@QPaysTaxes I'm on Linux, so I don't have to care about those viruses. And meh, can't open it. But that title looks like spam anyway.
 
5:40 AM
Morning
 
@Ferrybig o/
@QPaysTaxes back Well, I'd suggest Ubuntu. And by the way: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/164.
Also remember that with great power... =D
lol
 
@KevinGuan I prefer to wait for a confirmation by at least 1 RO here, before I merge that in.
 
@Ferrybig Confirm? How?
Ping an RO and ask is it OK that make QPaysTaxes as a privileged user of Smokey?
 
@KevinGuan uh, Ubuntu seems hellbent on dumbing down the desktop to the point where it is useless for developers
I would perhaps recommend Debian or Mint instead, depending on what exactly you are looking for. Debian + Cinnamon is usable and pretty.
(and if you are saying "GNU/Linux" you seem to be basically saying Debian)
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh, then listen to tripleee.
<----- Or try Arch Linux
 
5:52 AM
@QPaysTaxes I think Debian is the only platform who consistently uses that, but yeah, it's a good summary of what's in the package for pretty much any Linux distro
I was a Ubuntu user for almost ten years, starting from 4.10 but when they went to Unity, I switched first to XUbuntu and then back to good old Debian, which I was using from 1998 to 2004
though now my laptop is a Mac
 
@KevinGuan normally, I see @rene making those pull requests, or other room owners asking in the Charcoal HQ. Not 100% if the RO team here wants to have all Smokey requests flowing around, so I'm playing it more safe now
 
but the servers all run Debian
 
@Ferrybig Fine, I understand what you're caring about. So since you have already pinged rene, I'm pasting the link to PR here: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/164
 
6:13 AM
@Ferrybig yes, please play it safe. What's up?
 
@rene See below, my link. Is it okay that make QPaysTaxes as a privileged user of Smokey?
@rene And by the way, how about trash this request? (and really? 20 "me too" answers?)
 
I'm back (now from my PC instead of mobile)
@rene I want confirmation before I merge this: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/164
 
@Ferrybig I'm looking in to that, just hold please while you listen to muzak ...
@KevinGuan if shog9 touched it (which he did) you better leave it alone, or chime into that meta post
 
6:28 AM
@QPaysTaxes bye
 
@QPaysTaxes o/
@rene Fine.
 
Rob
"You may only flag a post every 5 seconds"
Too bad they can post spam faster than once every 5 seconds
 
Morning \o
 
@kayess Plop
 
Rob
morning
 
6:35 AM
> You may only open the flag dialog every 3 seconds
 
Hiya @Ferry @Rob \o
 
Rob
So I just noticed this answer is literally a copy + paste from the website
They didn't even bother to fix up their selection.. and included the title bars,et c
Taken from here: status.bitbucket.org
Does that even count as plagiarism since it's a status update?
 
@Rob Well, if that's helpful, then nope I think.
 
@Rob meh, shog9 deleted already most of the answers, that one you linkerd to is not helpful but lets not bother moderators or reviewers with it, lets try to delete it with some 20Kers
If anyone who feels the same can do what is needed we'll handle that ...
 
Rob
Yeah, I don't expect the question to stick around when it's resolved in any case
 
6:48 AM
Correct
 
Rob
Unfortunately won't be able to help out with the delete, though
 
The same goes for the 20Kers due to the current score
So that needs fixing
Oh, I'm not suggesting to do anything evil ...
 
Rob
I've done my part ;)
 
I assumed that, yes
 
7:12 AM
@QPaysTaxes I have pulled some stats and although you're on track I rather have you participate here a bit longer (you're a month short or so) before I grant you access to Smokey from this room. I asked the people in Charcoal to hold the SOCVR PR for now. Sorry about that. cc @KevinGuan @Ferrybig
@QPaysTaxes that is true but it is not much different for the highest voted answer
that only is reason to declare in not helpful
yeah
it is a FGITW issue
 
@rene Oh, fine.
 
@QPaysTaxes the question and all its deleted answers is a big drama
@QPaysTaxes 500+ messages 2,5 months participation, a bit short on rep to my liking but that goes for more regulars here.
yep, I just run queries, I don't actually give grades for the quality of your participation ;)
I mean @Kyll only made it due to his Plops ....
 
@QPaysTaxes Now this was just a slight case of getting rene'd
 
numbers?
 
decimal numbers or fractions :p
 
7:23 AM
fractions?
numbers after the decmal point
 
not sure that I have not found the correct english word
 
lol
@kayess You googled and either nothing or only NSFW connections popped up?
 
@rene lol
 
Hiya
 
@Tunaki Hiya \o
 
7:28 AM
@QPaysTaxes digits and they form the fractional part.
 
rene --------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
now wait is this the case or rene gettin Tuna'd ?:o
 
That's horrible.
 
@QPaysTaxes with the really low-quality ones it's hard to single out any one close reason above others
 
7:49 AM
Plop!
@rene Hey >.>
 
o/
 
/me whistles innocently
 
/me wonders how a flower can whistle
2
 
/me say Plop to @Kyll
 
8:05 AM
/me wrecks the train
 
@SmokeDetector ô.ô Holy. That's the most blatant spam post that I've seen thus far.
@QPaysTaxes Nvm
 
I saw @Tunaki on the road last night imgur.com/K9GTqgO
?
 
Ha, I can't see your filthy image.
 
I was in a moving car..
 
I can't notice the fish on the pic
 
8:12 AM
@Tunaki which sites are not blocked for you?
 
no idea
 
If I onebox it, can you see it?
 
nope
 
Damn I took the photo for you and now you're the only one who can't see it
 
There's a delete vote on that first one...
 
8:24 AM
invite the user here?
 
@QPaysTaxes brews a cup of lemon tea for @QPaysTaxes
 
Lemon tea rulez
 
Peach is where it's at
 
@PraveenKumar Honestly, could be fixed if OP can produce a MCVE. Being homework does not make it off-topic.
 
@Kyll I know... But without any effort...
I have already given him a hint of the answer.
 
8:30 AM
@PraveenKumar Lack of effort is not a scope issue
 
He didn't even say what he tried.
Anyway, it should be closed right... Use the reason that suits you! :)
 
Using the right reasons is important, particularly in this room.
 
@Kyll Okie.
 
[cv-pls]
 
@SpringLearner What are you trying?
 
8:34 AM
I am trying to create that button cv-pls
 
@SpringLearner [tag:cv-pls]
 
@EricD thanks
 
@SpringLearner yw
 
@PraveenKumar lack of effort is a reason to downvote, not to close
 
@SpringLearner shouldn't it be closed as a dupe of NullPointerExc like the previous one, or is it different?
 
8:37 AM
@SpringLearner ^
 
@EricD true
@Tunaki what does ^ means?
 
It is supposed to be an arrow, pointing to the message above :)
(I closed it as duplicate)
 
@Tunaki what does these statements do?
 
They give feedback to the bot SmokeDetector that tracks spam / offensive posts.
 
^ you don't have to comment that you voted to close
 
8:45 AM
There is a town hall next wednesday, chat moderation is the topic ....
 
but moderation was burninated?
 
OK, I'll bring that to the meeting ...
 
9:01 AM
Aaaand 50% packet loss on the network again
 
You should stop ddosing the interwebz
 
@Kyll maybe stop your torrent downloads?
 
9:28 AM
@QPaysTaxes cc @gunr
@rene We have a 2Mbps connection on which more than 20 Windows computers are connected. One downloads an update (Windows 10, for freaking example) and the whole network is in agony.
 
Install WUS
 
@rene might actually be MATLAB, if it weren't for the dot in front of the T
 
@rene I'd rather try to tweak the router to disallow one node to pump all the bandwidth, but I'm not allowed to do that
 
@rene Done.
@rene What's WUS?
@ArtOfCode I don't think Smokey still takes my feedback?
 
Damn I cannot say "rep whoring" in a comment :(
Not really, just trying to make poster feel guilty
 
9:41 AM
@Tim Those people don't feel shame nor guilt :p
 
@ArtOfCode Please add my account with 100% invalidated votes please! :P
@TimCastelijns Why can't you?
 
Where can we see the invalidated counts again?
 
And where?
 
Funny, the question linked in my last request question's seems to have been closed by SOCVR too.
 
@PraveenKumar "whor(ing)e" is bocked by the system
 
9:51 AM
@TimCastelijns LoL.
 
Yeah strange huh
 
@TimCastelijns But for which post you would like to comment it?
 
@TimCastelijns If only that was taken to a more literal sense
@PraveenKumar Don't target posts...
 
@Kyll No... Just wanted to see if it is comment worth.
 
@PraveenKumar stackoverflow.com/a/37854209/1843331 deleted now, mission accomplished
 
9:52 AM
@TimCastelijns dublicate ha ha ha.
 
@PraveenKumar Windows Update Server, one central on-premises server that has the updates, the clients get their patches from that server instead of each client wasting internet bandwidth. You can also control which patches go through and which don't.
 
@rene Awesome... Lemme check it out.
 
Not really star worthy I think ...
4
 
obvious reactions incoming
 
@rene And you farmed 4 stars in this post! :P
 
9:56 AM
yeah, silly room
 
sd that one got my spam sense tingling
 
@rene How dare you o:
 
@Mogsdad appliaction (716), appliactions (676)
 
10:15 AM
@PraveenKumar If the system's working as designed, it's taking your feedback but not displaying it.
Yeah, it's working. Look at this post - your initial sd k was confirmed by Kyll's sd k, so yours is unignored and validated and is displayed.
That'll count towards your valid total.
 
@QPaysTaxes tp = positive, u = blacklist user, - = be quiet about it
 
@QPaysTaxes same as k - true positive
Otherwise Smokey will reply to every feedback you send, which gets annoying.
 
10:30 AM
@ArtOfCode Oh wow... :D
 
@gunr2171 Sadly, I have my eyes on the starboard
 
Will still there be invalidations?
 
@PraveenKumar Ignored feedback is sort of like invalidated in that it doesn't get displayed publicly.
@PraveenKumar It's technically possible. If both you and the person who confirmed your feedback are wrong, then yeah it'll get invalidated, but somehow that seems unlikely.
 
@ArtOfCode OMG, so does that count? Will my (invalid) feedback get ignnored then later? Like, more invalidations?
 
@PraveenKumar No, ignored feedback doesn't count as invalid. All the counting algorithms ignore it completely.
 
10:33 AM
Woah... This is nice...
 
It's a fairly intelligent system. When Smokey sends feedback to MS, MS checks if the author is on the ignore list. If they are, it marks the feedback is_ignored. If they're not, it checks the post for previous feedbacks of the same type, and if they're marked is_ignored, takes that mark off them.
 
@ArtOfCode Now I am totally confused. LoL.
I do understand that this is like a crowdsourced stuff...
But...
 
But?
 
But!
 
I recently crossed 10k reps and As i can see in stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/moderator-tools
I can vote for delete to closed questions
 
10:42 AM
@SpringLearner Congrats
 
Woot! Join the 10k club \o/
 
but I do not see that option
 
@Yam Checking
 
@Kyll thanks
 
@SpringLearner There are a couple of restrictions.
 
10:43 AM
@Kyll OP needs a few more helpful nudges
 
You can vote to delete if the post has a score of <= -3, or if it is dated from more than 2 days ago.
 
@tripleee Thanks
 
@Tunaki if it's -2 and you have a downvote to spare, you can see it in real time
 
its closed and it has -4 votes
 
@SpringLearner Ah. For 10k, it must be 2 days old.
 
10:44 AM
@SpringLearner shows "delete" for me
 
@PraveenKumar This is the action that does all the clever stuff: github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/blob/master/app/controllers/…
 
Only at 20k can you always vote to delete if the post has a score <= -3.
 
ok thanks for info
 
kissing not considered abusive,i think
but we can vote as not an answer
 
10:46 AM
@Tunaki definitely NAA though
 
It's garbage, but unless we nuke it an abusive flag would be rejected
Or not
Depends on the mood of the reviewer there
 
@QPaysTaxes I've transferred your privileges from here over to Charcoal HQ.
 
@ArtOfCode Do you have any stats on whether or not the community has the time to cast any flag before the HQ and SOCVR nuke spam? That is, are we single-handedly destroying spam or do others take part in it?
 
@Kyll I highly doubt that the community has time for that, atleast for most cases.
 
learning to grammar
 
10:50 AM
It takes around 10 second to nuke a spam flag, they'd have to be fast :)
 
@QPaysTaxes bad things ...
 
@Kyll Not a clue. We won't have those stats as part of the system, no, but mods will be able to see who spam flagged.
 
Yeah, but Smokey has a bit of lag too
 
True, actually.
 
@ArtOfCode Yeah, I know. I think I'll ask Undo.
 
10:52 AM
@QPaysTaxes Someone issued a PR to add you to the privilege list - rene asked us to hold off on adding you here, so I added you there instead.
 
What is a PR? :o
Privilege request?
 
Waffle
 
Pull Request.
 
@Seth Pull Request
 
@Seth Prank Request
 
10:53 AM
Ah, okay, thx :p
 
Personal Record.
 
any/all of the above
 
Public Relations
 
Hum....
 
Party Rock?
 
10:54 AM
Hum doesn't get acronymized as PR.
 
Plop Revenge
2
 
@TIPS Try saying Hum with a strong German accent then
 
Party Rekt.
 
Personal Robot
 
Puss in Roots
 
10:56 AM
Ping Rene
 
Pus.. Riot? :o
 
Parent Row
 
Papal Rect... uhm, nope xD
 
@Tunaki Sorry @rene, but I've got to follow the instructions of the RO's. Like @rene. @rene is a RO. @rene could tell me to stop if @rene wanted to.
 
rene
 
10:58 AM
@ArtOfCode selectively follow the instructions
 
Power Rising ^
 
@Kyll Did it ever fall?
 
@rene Oh, like my selective hearing? Wait, did someone say something?
 

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