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12:00 AM
hahahaha, I had fun writing a rhetoric answer on meta
 
sounds like the recipe for downvotes
 
hahahahaha
 
@PraveenKumar Does a tuna (fish) also sleep?
 
@KevinGuan Ask @Tunaki
I am a kitten.. So I need to sleep.
It's essential for me.
He's a fish!
 
cat loves fish
 
12:02 AM
@KevinGuan (fun fact: all animals need to sleep)
 
lol
that's some answer @Braiam
 
@KevinGuan wow, answers like that after 2 years...bah
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah, what do you think about that?
 
@KevinGuan I saw that one... scrolled past it. I think there's something in there but I'm too sleepy to see it.
 
again, just a specific choice of poo
I mean, basically what Tuna said
(same time zone, y'know:P)
I'd probably not flag since the second sentence might or might not mean anything, and I'm too lazy to read the question (and I wouldn't understand it either way)
 
12:04 AM
Meh, let me check it carefully then.
 
@Tunaki really?
 
anyway, if Kevin is here, I should be asleep
 
Bonne nuit then.
 
@Braiam I'll see the votes tomorrow :D
night o/
 
TIL: Kevin likes Tuna... so much that he will eat him, so Tuna has to flee
5
 
12:06 AM
And that answer is link-only I think, that is linked to a PDF file and very very long...huh.
 
user3956566
12:20 AM
@KevinGuan hi :D
 
posted on June 05, 2016

We will be upgrading SQL Server from 2014 SP1 to 2016 RTM for all production websites on Saturday June 5th at 01:00 UTC (9:00 PM EDT on June 4th). The upgrade should be transparent on the replicas, but there will be a user-facing outage for approximately 30 seconds to 5 minutes (hopefully on the short side) while we cutover to the upgraded replica in New York for the last phase of the upgrade.

 
 
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JAL
1:44 AM
evening all
 
1:55 AM
What tags are we working on now
still [bouncing]?
 
JAL
i think so. I'll go through the tag with the magic tag review plugin and see if I can spend some delete votes
 
Oh yeah, you crossed 10k recently
 
JAL
Yup. I'll also go through the queue to close some
 
I'm about 420 rep away from there now
or I will be tomorrow when a bounty gets awarded
@AlexanderO'Mara Congrats on 1k helpful flags! I'm at 921 myself
 
JAL
awesome! congrats will be in order soon
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[bouncing]"
you see any questions in the queue Tyler?
looks like the tag has been burinated
 
2:05 AM
SO is offline
 
JAL
aaand maintenance
 
relief at last
 
JAL
lol
back for me
 
Back for me as well
And yes, the queue has no more bouncing in it JAL
 
JAL
@QPaysTaxes unclear on the definition of "efficient"
efficient could mean memory footprint, speed, etc. we traditionally close efficiency questions as unclear. but as always, this is merely a suggestion
 
2:41 AM
@JAL I liked the accepted answer
so I used it to edit the question so it asks something more answerable and that doesn't take opinions/anecdotes
 
3:18 AM
^ Spam, translates to pharmaceuticals.
 
 
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4:41 AM
I think sd gone is unnecessary now because it checks itself.
 
5:18 AM
This is the second time I've seen one of these questions: stackoverflow.com/questions/37638644/palindrome-related
 
gone :-(
 
Basically people are asking for "help" (do-it-for-me) cheating in this Snackdown competition thing: codechef.com/snackdown/2016 It says it runs for 24 hours, so I guess it will be over soon enough.
@QPaysTaxes So far I've just been closing them, the last one didn't get any help either.
It would be funny. :) I'm guessing we probably won't see any more though.
@Yvette Oh good, I was thinking that but didn't know for sure.
@QPaysTaxes yep
 
5:42 AM
Plop!
what not again?
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara yes probably!
 
Plop @QPaysTaxes!
@QPaysTaxes I want you to cry more :D
Plop @QPaysTaxes!
:(
It was fun making you cry
comes quietly and steals ice-cream
:(
You are such a big cheater! You didn't let me make you cry :P
 
Any thoughts on this question, which admits to likely violating Apple's license agreements? Cannot run app on ios-mac from visual stuidio using apache cordova
 
But I couldn't steal your ice-cream, so you can't use that against me!
 
@QPaysTaxes Yeah, probably.
 
5:56 AM
I have to go. will be back after somtime
Polp
 
I decided to go too-broad on it.
 
6:14 AM
You know, it's not often a newbie makes this many classic noob mistakes. — Alexander O'Mara 58 secs ago
^ That's gota be a contender for worst question of the day.
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes which country?
 
user3956566
in Australia it's about $30-40 per hour == $60-80k per annum
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes oh lolol
 
user3956566
show me the comment!
 
user3956566
I know that! lol
 
user3956566
6:20 AM
when you're written it
 
user3956566
I'm aiding and abetting a snarky comment
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes ooooooh avoid that
 
user3956566
trust me, I get the urge sometimes, but it will reflect badly on you
 
user3956566
Tell us in here and we will all agree
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes good :D it doesn't help and sounds like OP is genuinely struggling, so no point to be mean
 
user3956566
6:26 AM
@QPaysTaxes I think this is better stackoverflow.com/questions/37639004/…
 
@QPaysTaxes Depends on location and cost of living.
 
6:37 AM
Ah, good riddance to that worst-question-of-the-day contender/user.
 
I'm sad because of the homework questions copied-and-pasted on SO showing no interest to learn and understand
 
Yeah, it's both sad and offensive.
 
@user2314737 You'll become immune to them once you see the number of questions like that.
 
Anyhow, that's enough garbage for one night. Later.
 
6:47 AM
Need to translate
 
see you @AlexanderO'Mara don't dream of homework
 
Spam (from the same user as the Smokey report) stackoverflow.com/a/37639168/4050842
 
@Thaillie Next time you come across spam, and you are sure it has not been reported before, report it like I did
 
@AshishAhujaツ Yea, I forgot what the command was :p
 
@Thaillie Then you can always ask us :)
 
7:11 AM
bye
 
user3956566
@QPaysTaxes you'd be surprised what some people say and do :D
 
8:30 AM
Plop!
 
8:42 AM
Looks like spam disguised as a legit post
Going for the tangent
@QPaysTaxes I forcefully approved the edit
@QPaysTaxes Because I'm not entirely sure if it's spam, thus going for the close route. I fixed the edit grammar
Is there any middle-ground for questions? Something other than k or f?
Ha. Knew it ><
afk
 
9:13 AM
Plop!
 
9:24 AM
!!/coffee
 
@AshishAhujaツ brews coffee for @AshishAhujaツ
 
That will keep me awake
 
9:52 AM
Hiya @NisseEngström, FerryBig!
 
Morning
 
10:16 AM
That's been Madara'd!
@Ferrybig Well, you've linked to a meta q.
 
@AshishAhujaツ Userscript failed to process custom close message
 
@Ferrybig Simply going for Tool Rec since it's asking about where a piece of doc is
 
user3956566
10:33 AM
@Kyll asked a js question
 
10:52 AM
bye
Hiya @Shadow @EricD!
 
Hi @AshishAhujaツ
 
@Yvette There's no trivial answer.
 
11:09 AM
Hiya
 
o/
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha no
 
Mainly because how <input type=number> is defined in the spec
 
user3956566
Stephen M offered a good github repo. I am just thinking there's got to be a better way than jsut adding on more and more JS functions
 
11:15 AM
It's defined so that you, as a dev, don't care about localization, the browser takes care of that
But the browser, presently, doesn't do it very well.
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha also did you see that my words with you last time we met were over a total misunderstanding! So sorry about that
 
@Yvette I did
It's all good :)
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha well even if you do use type = "number" you can circumvent that
 
@Yvette You can also not use type=number, and implement your own solution with JS
 
user3956566
yes
 
11:16 AM
Similarly to what nicael wrote for you
 
user3956566
well I need to format it as 1,000,000
 
But you can see pretty clearly that it's not a very good solution
 
user3956566
he got a downvote, I didn't downvote it
 
@Yvette I did
 
user3956566
I can format it
 
user3956566
11:17 AM
but then now need to implement an input validation
 
Because it's clunky, it's not intuitive for the user
The commas are added after they type
 
user3956566
and it feels like it becomes a bloated mes of JS
 
Also, try to correct a number (without pressing backspace, with your mouse)
 
user3956566
ah do you want to tell him?
 
user3956566
I will test it
 
11:18 AM
@Yvette Client-side validation is a convenience feature only
 
user3956566
I was afk through all this adventure
 
user3956566
I will test it
 
You shouldn't rely on it for anything meaningful
You have no guarantee that your client-side validations run at all. Always validate server-side as well.
Client-side validation is only there for UX.
 
user3956566
yes
 
user3956566
Error handling
 
user3956566
11:20 AM
this has been such an interesting project
 
user3956566
a web app for a big mining company over here
 
user3956566
they use an excel spreadsheet and we're incorporating all that into an asp.net mvc app
 
user3956566
and they are used to the data updating immediately so there's been a lot of ajax. It's been a great project for me to cut my teeth on out of Uni
 
@Yvette Yup, sounds like it.
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha my boss is amazing, he knows I'm slow and is ok with me needing to learn as I go.
 
user3956566
11:22 AM
he doesn't pay me to do the learning though!
 
user3956566
they only brush over JS at uni
 
11:42 AM
@Yvette :O
Oh
Madara's on it
Anything I can help with?
 
user3956566
@Kyll hey I thought the spearrel would like to shake his groove thing on some JS (and vomit up the asp.net mvc bit of course!)
 
user3956566
must add spearrel to dictionary using this post to add Spearrel to dictionary
 
Haha
Let me see
 
user3956566
hey am I going to be an honorary spearrel? or are you going to be an Yvette devotee? @Kyll
 
user3956566
11:46 AM
@Tunaki I must skype you a secret plan, that you must then get out to all the other secret spies in the plan.
 
okay and we should not tell anyone that we have a special plan
 
user3956566
@Tunaki shhhhh no don't
 
@Yvette We'll know in up to a month and a half, lady
 
user3956566
you are so loving me on SO
 
user3956566
sounds wrong, but it is completely clean
 
11:47 AM
deleting the database I don't think is a solution — IgnazioC 1 hour ago
 
That sounded even worse now
 
user3956566
@Kyll lolol
 
@Tunaki Who needs a database anyway? Just hardcode all values
 
Yeah no I don't think so either :D
 
user3956566
didn't mean it to! I am always at my best when I don't try
 
user3956566
11:48 AM
@Kyll hardcode all teh valuz
 
12:03 PM
@Mogsdad Moar magic: frist firt (should be first)
 
@Tunaki Guidance is to only target common mistakes (> 1000 posts hit)
 
I make my own guidance!
:(
Or... are you implying I should post 900 answers with that typo? :p
 
955, actually.
 
^
Did gunr teach you maths?
 
12:06 PM
:)
 
Sam
Boo!
 
startled
Plop!
 
Hiya!
 
Hey
 
@Tuna 2 team join requests waiting for you; one of them can be declined with prejudice.
 
12:10 PM
arf, why is there no notification of that! thanks looking
 
they're only 2 days old :)
already reported
 
Plop Ashish!
 
\o
 
12:16 PM
Hiya o/
 
Isn't this actually a disguised spam? I find it fishy when looking at the array contents.
Ah, maybe not, OP is active in comments...
 
sorry. Unexpected interruption. I have to go. Will be back shortly
 
user3956566
@ArtOfCode I know and the script I use reports to both rooms, do you know of one that just reports to charcoal?
 
@Yvette I didn't know there was a script at all :)
 
user3956566
@ArtOfCode also I got muddled up, as the user posted two posts to same Question
 
12:26 PM
@Ashish Have fun!
 
@Yvette Exactly. But OP seems to ask genuine questions in comments, so... still not sure.
 
user3956566
@EricD we think alike, we are both suspicious and untrusting, but also kind
 
I wouldn't bet on "kind" in my case, lol. I'm more of a curmudgeon actually. ;)
 
user3956566
nice, I like that
 
user3956566
12:30 PM
me too, ask @rene ^^
 
1:13 PM
@Shubhank It's just a tool rec, no need for a custom reason. Plus, you may want to be more explicit when using custom reasons
 
someone edits?
 
I would, but you keep harassing me and deleting Smokey messages before I read them
fetch('coffee').then(Kyll.comeBack)
 
user3956566
1:35 PM
hm I would like a coffee
 
Hiya
 
user3956566
hi!
 
Plop BR
 
@Kyll Feature request for your Ploppify User Script. Pop out a message box that says "Plop!", 1. When you enter the chatroom which I am in 2. When I enter the chatroom that you are in.
 
Hahahaha okay that is totally making it
 
1:44 PM
Eagerly Waiting ;)
 
Oh hey anyone can approve
rejects @Alexander
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara you're approved! I didn't know we could all approve, what a great member to approve!
 
I think there's a policy of letting the ROs handle that
But oh well, what can stop the Yvette right
 
user3956566
hopes @Tunaki doesn't see Alex approval, all we'll both be kicked
 
@Kyll really?
lol
okay
 
user3956566
2:21 PM
@Kyll oh no!! really??? @rene is going to kill me!! he will be complaining about me in the team room for hours!!!
 
user3956566
@Tunaki was I not supposed to approve? If I had any doubts I wouldn't but Alex! It's a no brainer
 
@Yvette No one complains about you
 
user3956566
if I request to remove rene, do you think it will work? :p
 
A better phrasing would be plotting against you
 
user3956566
@Kyll bahahahahahaha
 
user3956566
2:23 PM
you kill me kyll
 
@Yvette you can try :p
 
user3956566
@Tunaki he's a feisty one
 
user3956566
i have 1,298 points to 10k
 
user3956566
I need to answer some more bloddy questions
 
2:35 PM
Stack Exchange API has very useful error messages, for example "this method cannot be called this way". What exactly is "this way"?
 
@Gothdo The way you want obviously
 
Well, changing the request method from POST to GET fixed that. Couldn't they just tell something like "this method can only be called using GET"?
 
It would be too easy otherwise.
 
user3956566
2:52 PM
I think it's more unclear what the OP knows ^^
 
Sam
@Kyll There is...
 
@Sam Better be faster than the Aussie then!
 
user3956566
@Sam I didn't know!!!!!!! rene is going to Kyll me
4
 
user3956566
well it's Alex he is ok
 
user3956566
though I know the ROs don't like me peeing on their turf
 
user3956566
3:01 PM
I really desperately wanted to tell a troll he is an idiot
 
user3956566
but I didn't
 
Sam
@Yvette Well we had a pinned message up for about a week...
 
user3956566
@Sam when?
 
@Yvette That one time you weren't looking
 
user3956566
Let's see how much drama can ensue from me approving a good room member, when I did so with good faith and had no evil intention. It's like what bad thing has happened. Now I know I wasn't supposed to do it. @Tunaki didn't even realise I wasn't supposed to have done it.
 
user3956566
3:06 PM
I don't want to hear another word about the bloddy thing
 
Sam
@Yvette Finally found the message lol
Apr 14 at 19:54, by gunr2171
We've ignored maintaining the Teams page, sorry about that. If you have been around for at least 3 months and have 2k messages you can request access to join. Please let the RO's do the approving.
 
He did say "please", not "let the ROs do it or we'll stab you"
 
user3956566
3:31 PM
@Sam is this 1992? or 1892? LOL
 
Sam
Lol
 
user3956566
@Sam Kyll is teaching me not to take things so seriously here
 
user3956566
puts on zombie eyes O<O O>O
 
Sam
@Yvette You're learning from the master. ;)
 
user3956566
@Sam O<O lol
 
3:43 PM
Master of not taking things seriously. Meh, I don't really care.
 
Sam
Yep
 
At least you master something.
 
user3956566
@Kyll so typical!
 
user3956566
I'll give you six of the best of not caring
 
@rene that key used in your mso answer shouldn't be private should it?
 
user3956566
3:49 PM
@JonClements hi!!!
 
user3956566
long time no see
 
Indeed - are things well?
 
user3956566
yes my dear
 
user3956566
what's > well-received question
 
user3956566
how many votes?
 
3:50 PM
Not sure that's defined anywhere... probably means not negatively scored :)
 
well received to me is >= -1
 
user3956566
lol
 
@Yvette well... from the first answer on that - it has: Any open question that is not deleted and has a of score >= 1 is considered well-received
 
user3956566
yep I'm wondering why I don't have this badge stackoverflow.com/help/badges/4128/inquisitive
 
user3956566
3:52 PM
> Ask a well-received question on 30 separate days, and maintain a positive question record
 
Ugh... that's one of those badges that's always a right pain to work out :)
 
Maybe the Inquisitive badge ought to be "looked at 5000 questions" ... wondering what in the world they are asking about.
 
@Yvette are you looking at SO or metas?
 
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