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9:04 PM
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Whassup Guys!
 
Plop!
 
If someone posts a good answer, but he deletes it again. Should we undelete it? Because it adds a good and valuable answer to that Q&A and is answering the question. I mean we don't want to lose good content on SO, right?
 
@Closely help
 
@Rizier123 There was a meta about this earlier
@AmanuelBogale you're still not at 3k rep, so you still have no use for Closey.
 
9:09 PM
Hey @Adriaan
Yes i do look
@Closey help
 
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by the SOCVR developers. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
 
@Closey stats
 
@AmanuelBogale Sorry, you are not in the Reviewer permission group. You can request access by running request permission to Reviewer.
 
.... nvm
 
@Rizier123 I think you'd want to comment first, indicating that they can also ask for the answer to be detached from their account via a moderator flag
 
9:10 PM
@Adriaan Or should I post an answer and extend from it?
 
@AmanuelBogale yes, you can pester the bots with little-use al-=permission code, but Closey is there, as had been explained to you, for monitoring reviews done in the Close Vote queue, which requires 3k reputation to enter. Hence, you won't be allowed access to Closey, as you're not at 3k rep yet.
@Rizier123 the meta-ed question in question was undeleted
 
Lol i wont pester him
Lol @Adriaan i will get 3k rep soon..
 
her* Closey's a she
 
@Clo room effectiveness
 
@Kyll 11 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 418 review items today, which accounts for 23.93% of all CV reviews today.
 
9:13 PM
That question is so funny. Please close it soon.
 
lol closelsy is not a she. not a he. But a it!
 
@AmanuelBogale Nope, a she. Better not to ask how that happened.
 
Im playing lol @Adriaan
 
will I be negged if I say Hi here? :O Sorry too much paranoid :p
 
@guest420420 Plop!
 
9:15 PM
:)
:)
 
We only eat people on Tuesdays
 
@BhargavRao I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
...@k
 
hahah funny. Just discovering the chat feature. carry on guys :)
 
@guest420420 Have fun. If you want to learn more about what we're doing in that room, check our Team page (see right bar) and description.
 
9:17 PM
Does anyone know Go-lang in this rrom
Or is studying it?
 
@AmanuelBogale Go-away lang :P
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..... that is just.. lol AmAZING!
 
Have never found a use for Go, so never learned it.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara HAhahaha
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Hipster bragging rights
 
9:18 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara Go is amazing.
 
@AmanuelBogale But is it useful?
 
Mogsdad passed a audit!
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Yes lol... I made a post here
 
@rene Interesting. I'm eager to see this on SO!
 
About its usefull enss.. Let me get the post
 
9:21 PM
Off to me bed, bonne nuit!
 
sleep well
 
Night
 
@Adriaan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Kyll I already wrote a comment here: stackoverflow.com/questions/36240418/… saying that he wrote a good possible answer. Should we vote to undelete? Because the answer is a really good one and better than all others. And I don't want to copy, just that we don't lose it
 
9:25 PM
Bhargav Rao passed a audit!
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Adriaan passed a audit!
 
@Closey next 3 tags
 
next x tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Adriaan The next 3 tags are: 1337, 36, 29
 
Ionic-Material!
 
@Mogsdad ta
 
9:27 PM
:)
 
@AmanuelBogale if you want that closed, sure, we can do that.
 
Lol no
 
@BhargavRao You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 7 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 10 minutes and 30 seconds, averaging to a review every 10 seconds.
 
@Closey Had only 1 audit though
10secs is perhaps my fastest. :|
 
9:28 PM
rene passed a audit!
 
I'm finding a lot of ex- posts in the queue. Seems that most of them got in there because the tag was edited out
 
Bye all, Time to sleep. \o
I'll see NATO once and then hit the bed
 
Ok, I'm out of votes and off to bed as well to compensate for DST change, cya
 
rene passed a audit!
 
Out of votes, no more queue for me
@Closey reviews today
 
9:39 PM
@Adriaan You've reviewed 55 posts today (of which 2 were audits). The time between your first and last review today was 14 minutes and 25 seconds, averaging to a review every 16 seconds.
 
Lol
Your guys life is reviewing lol
 
@AmanuelBogale you might want to dial down on the "lol" usage. There are moments there's fun here, but not as much as you are suggesting with your vocabulary (or you have a very interesting sense of humour)
 
Um lol...
 
posted a suggestion on reviews bans to meta if anyone is interested: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/319811/…
 
we have a life?
 
9:49 PM
Idk
 
@sclv interesting read. I agree with you on the subject matter.
 
its the first time i've made a feature request to meta, so i think i'm doing it right...
 
Got that vote @sclv!
Its sad Stackoverflow isnt real time though...
 
I still don't know what a robo-reviewer is
 
its someone that clicks unthinkingly through the queue
 
9:53 PM
@Drew I'd say you vote whatever is has been flagged as without reading the post to confirm the validity of the flag.
 
@sclv +1 :)
 
imagine for example that you think "this is a silly formality that people need edits accepted. of course they're editing to improve!" and now you click "approve" on every edit, as fast as you can. obviously this is a bad idea :-)
 
why would people do that :p
 
Badges
 
^Only answer I can give.
 
9:56 PM
i appreciate audits in theory, because they've given me guidelines as to what the general standards are -- so i've learned from them
and in general i think they're a brilliant idea to teach people how to review
 
they're basically easy-to-get badges, which require no actual effort in terms of posting a good answer/posting 400 good answers etc. Just click through stuff without others interfering. (Same as e.g. the fanatic badge, though that's less disruptive)
@sclv !! detected!
 
Somone Down Voted lol!
 
I recently flagged a chat message (not this room) is that flag supposed to show up anywhere?
 
Somone Upvoted it again lol
 
I don't think I ever failed an audit. Not sure.
Then again I don't use the queue
 
10:00 PM
@Drew I did. 4 lines, no code. Apparently got +13 or so and was considered "good"
 
and generally i think the main good thing is they enforce some cohesion on how we review, more than catching the stray "robo-reviewer" which is just an extreme case of "not sharing the standard" -- i also like that i get positive reinforcement when i pass, which helps me know i'm "doing it right"
 
@Adriaan as spam? I don't think it does
 
@Tunaki offensive, yes
 
but i've definitely gotten hit with some borderline cases, and there are plenty of questions on meta that show that this is pretty common (and since most people don't take borderline fails to meta, i expect this is a very very low number as compared to the actual number of borderlines)
 
I don't see any cons for that feature request
downvoted should really comment in this case:/
 
10:02 PM
@sclv nice, I hope it gets done
 
@sclv I do as well
 
"What is wrong?" was already taken probably
 
"Wrong is the word used to indicate the opposite of right"
 
@Rizier123 slightly dubious avatar
 
10:12 PM
@Tunaki lol yes, not sure if I should write my comment also in german just to make it easier to understand and to communicate. So I can see what his real question is and edit the question into shape if possible.
 
:29577638Maybe he's using lol as a "touchdown" emoji! Kinda like \o/.
 
@Rizier123 Ah dat typo. The highlighter even shows it actually. (The quotes is not properly ended at the end, making the curly } red)
 
pp_
Why am I not surprised that it has to do with minecraft?
 
I don't VTD, I just write a comment and wush: stackoverflow.com/q/36241488/3933332
 
Ok guys i might come back later! Until then peace!
 
10:20 PM
Out of flags, out for the night. Might not be here the coming two days. Until later.
 
pp_
@AmanuelBogale peace out
 
Cya, nice.... life?
 
@Adriaan cya
 
@PetterFriberg hejdå!
 
Hello @Daedalus o/ I don't remember seeing you around.
 
10:26 PM
Waffle
 
If you are going to post a close vote request, you need to be in the room.
at least say hi
 
pp_
@Tunaki I found a hilarious meta about this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310187/…
Well, you probably already know it since you closed it.
 
> Such questions are now off-topic on SO, please use Project Management Stack Exchange Site.
And there are 1.8k of them...
 
@gunr2171 well, to be fair, his first cv-pls was in October and he chatted a bit in February
 
true
oh, suppose I should say "evening", seeing this is the first time I show up in chat today
 
10:36 PM
Hey, I asked this question, and kind answerer tried to help which I voted up, but it's clear the question is not asked well. Can it get closed rather than deleted, so the answerer is not ripped off?
 
@GreenAsJade What do you mean "it's clear the question is not asked well"?
 
can you salvage the question by editing it?
or you want it closed in the current state?
 
I had in mind to just close it, because the answerer addressed it the way it is written, and it would be significantly different to fix it up (making the answer look wierd)
 
Ah. I see.
 
to be honest, the post looks fine to me (as in, not "unclear", or enough to close vote)
 
I agree with gunr. The question looks clear enough.
It is maybe not what you wanted initially but it may be useful for future readers.
 
@Tunaki I lurk every now and again; I'm not constantly in here.
 
Hey
 
Hello. sorry about that, I noticed you weren't in the room when the request was made, thought it was weird.
 
10:42 PM
@GreenAsJade The way I see it, might as well ask that other question you want (which appears to be different then) and leave this one
 
@Tunaki thoughts on dupehammer ? stackoverflow.com/q/36240480
 
In detail: it is a distraction that I put the "add line items" inputs inside the <Form> . The question would be a lot clearer if that section of code were taken out of there. If I ask it again, unfortunately it will be duplicate. It's not a different question, just needs to be asked better. I'm happy to edit the code in the question - I've just seen people unhappy about "moving targets" in the past.
 
@Drew let me test I tihnk the OP's code would wokr
 
true, editing a question in invalidate other answers is not the best.
It's funny, you're putting a lot of effort in to explain why your own post is bad.
 
I voted to close "unclear what you're asking"
Some people just want to "do the right thing" :D
 
10:45 PM
Someone posted a good answer and deleted it. I already asked him in the comments why, no response yet. What should be done?
- vote to undelete? We don't want to lose good content.
-custom mod flag? To get it undeleted
-...
 
@Drew yes hammer it is but out of votes
 
well, you know my thoughts, but I'm not a javascript guy. So let me do this V and let other people know about it
 
k thx
 
@gunr2171 I had an op ask me to close vote all his question and post'em here... but since we can target user I could not : )
 
@Rizier123 move on?
 
10:46 PM
I'm still not sure it is close-worthy. "Unclear" means we can't make sense of the question or understand what is being asked. But okay.
 
0 CV so can't help, If OP got an answer he did not expect, he was unclear...
 
@Braiam It is a good answer, and when I vote to undelete I'm unsure because OP delete the answer himself, but he's kinda destroying a good answer. And when I flag it, it may be declined because I'm wrong here. So really unsure here.
 
@Rizier123 well, why don't you post it yourself?
 
@Tunaki what I think is that someone could have understood it and answered it. But now it has an answer that shows how easily it can be misunderstood. I don't want to do the wrong thing by that answerer, who did offer good suggestions. So as such it wasn't originally a close worthy question probably, but in the circumstances closing might be the cleanest thing.
 
afk for a bit
 
10:49 PM
But if you you all think not, I'll just update the question to clarify it.
 
Something about voting to close a mod's question makes me nervous.
 
Fair enough. I'm afraid I don't know much about the subject. It is unusual to have someone come in here and ask for their question to be closed :D
@WaiHaLee Ha. I voted to close it on the first round also ;)
 
@Tunaki Do you remember this "By the way, can you send close requests for my other 3 questions as well. It would be greatly appreciated" : )
 
Hmmmmmmm, no I don't...?
 
@Tunaki yeah, but after voting to reopen it, I saw the answer basically saying it wasn't reproducible.
 
10:57 PM
@Tunaki I can't send link here (it would be related only to OP) so never mind... just to show... (It was the guy how used SO as code service, when he had answer he wanted to delete, no more answers, already solved...)
 
@Braiam Because he came up with it and not me.
 
@Rizier123 I would vote to undelete. If the OP doesn't want its name attached, they can ask a mod for that.
 
Can't understand this edit stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11783750 ... trying to remove error so it gets open?
2 have already approved it... is it correct?
 
@PetterFriberg That edit should be rejected....
 
@PetterFriberg OP edited the question after the edit was suggested: stackoverflow.com/posts/36240924/revisions
or maybe not. huh
the edit was suggested ~1 minute later.
 
11:04 PM
Maybe was the edit editing a old version of the post by a accident
 
I still see edit pending...
 
he started editing before OP submitted his changes -> conflict
 
@Tunaki Good point!
 
Tunaki has has approved 712 edit suggestions and rejected 1029 edit suggestions, the other quy has approved 909 edit suggestions and rejected 57 edit suggestions, I guess there is some difference in judgement...
 
Yeah, Tunaki is grumpy and evil.
 
11:12 PM
You don't see this many times in PHP. Good and clear questions: stackoverflow.com/q/36240418 , stackoverflow.com/q/36241771
 
'I avoid if-statement branch prediction fails by using an FP series expansion'
I need moar gin.
 
@MartinJames OP says you're silly there are no floating points involved due to powers of 2
his name has Power in it, so he's a power user
 
@AndrasDeak I'm not silly, I'm drunk.
 
I'd listen to him
 
11:22 PM
 
wait, there was a "// drunk, fixme later" kind of thing recently somewhere:D
 
@Rizier123 I read that. Now, I have to get moar drunk.
 
hey, who said I was grumpy and evil... =(
 
I'm sensing that you don't hold a grudge for being given reasons to get moar drunk
@Tunaki I did! >:)
 
11:24 PM
@AndrasDeak Not me, that time:)
 
@Tunaki but it's OK, I like evil grumpy reviewers
they are my peeps
 
\o/
 
@MartinJames Why?
 
@AndrasDeak Reason-shortage has not stopped me before, no.
 
@MartinJames good, good:D
 
11:27 PM
@Rizier123 err... then what's stoping you from "comming up" with the same idea?
 
@Braiam good conscience
 
@Tunaki say what?
 
@Braiam Because I didn't came up with it and saw it in his answer. I posted my solution, which I came up with: stackoverflow.com/a/36240956/3933332 even though his one is better.
 
@Tunaki "conscience"? looks for a nail - stabs it doesn't exist anymore
 
\--- look at that face, does it look like one with conscience?
 
11:32 PM
hmm true. let's all copy-paste one another
 
okay, who upvoted this? stackoverflow.com/a/36241972/559745
 
@Floern I asked myself the same thing today already twice, just different worse ones.
 
I'm more in the "meh" camp...
 
can I flag that as offensive, or just edit it to a "try this"?
 
he deleted it for a reason...
 
11:34 PM
@Floern somebody who was trolling George Stoker a while back had a rejected edit suggesting that code. Can't remember who it was or any other details.
 
@Floern I flagged it, but with custom reasons, because I don't think they can auto-run that code in the head while looking at it.
 
@rene About one year ago there were hundreds of votes for bringing back the "lacks minimal understanding" close reason and it didn't happen. So what we are really bound to is the will of the people who run the servers. Everything else is benevolence. If you want to change that, open up your own StackOverflow. The license permits it. — Trilarion 1 hour ago
aaaaw :( ^
I didn't know that...
 
@WaiHaLee *Stocker.
 
oke, post and user gone
 
Boom. Nuked. I like that.
 
pp_
11:38 PM
@Rizier123 I'm glad you did the right thing.
 
@AndrasDeak SO does not want it. It impacts their business model, something that prioritizes new users over skilled and experienced contributors.
 
but pooo
nevermind, we've been through this a lot
I was only reminded again of the status quo
 
I see rene is not making friends again...
 
The trained and qualified don't read adverts. We don't count.
 
@Tunaki maybe it's an evolutionary survival trick that his avatar is a pretty flower:P
fragile, symbol of innocence...
 
11:42 PM
so that he can eat you alive at the corner yeah
 
@Tunaki I'm hungry. I could do with an all-you-can-eat right about now.
 
@AndrasDeak lol
@MartinJames You can review..... that's about all I can offer.
 
Why can't you actually place a bounty on a question itself? In an era where good questions are like diamonds and hard to find. So you could encourage asking good questions and give attention to good questions.
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I know, I know, that's not a flower, but an appendage intended for participating in heterotrophic activities...but close enough:P
 
11:44 PM
Why do Venus Fly Traps not eat the wasps?
 
@MartinJames I'm afraid to ask...
why?
 
@Rizier123 Ah you mean bounty the guy that asked the question
I never thought of that.
 
@MartinJames No, more because it was misused and the wording wasn't clear at all, to both closers and people asking questions.
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A: Can we please have the "Lacks Minimal Understanding" close reason back?

Shog9 None of the current close reasons fit these particular questions Sure they do. Look... I get that folks liked that particular close reason. So did I. But it was widely misunderstood and misused, by the folks using it, by the folks asking questions, and especially by the folks reading quest...

 
box box -- okay I guess it's on-topic I'll let it go :p
 
@Tunaki Isn't that a good question Why can't you actually place a bounty on a question itself?! Want to add a bounty on it? :P
 
11:45 PM
@Tunaki Yes, why not? It would only cost 10 rep/month.
 
@Rizier123 because questions are the sand which goes in our eyes and cuts our feet, but occasionally they diffuse into shellfish, iritating them until they produce a thick coat of carbonates around the foreign body
you bounty thick coats of carbonates, not little crystals of silicates
 
@AndrasDeak Perl is terrible.
 
I mean it could make sense to bounty the question itself. "This question is remarkable and deserves a reward".
 
@MartinJames I liked it 15 years ago
 
@AndrasDeak That was way too much for my brain.
 
11:47 PM
@AndrasDeak Yes, it was only bad then.
 
@MartinJames possible, it was OK for me at that age:D
it was my second language after turbo pascal
you know, huge development there
 
@AndrasDeak Perl, to me, was like a car crash when I was a child. Something took away my mum and dad, but I could understand it and I felt lost and abandoned.
 
anyone here do spatial stuff with databases?
 
@MartinJames I'm probably too sober for this metaphor:D
 
@Drew What? On a Saturday night?
 
11:50 PM
but I'll take your word for it
 
@AndrasDeak lol, slaughtered..
 
@MartinJames every day is poo question day for Drew
 
@Drew a bit. What do you want to know?
 
like the strength of say postgresql for instance
 
Ha. I've only done Oracle Spatial. Really good. Don't know about Postgre.
 
11:52 PM
@AndrasDeak I do Delphi. T. pascal was not bad.
 
But I guess you're not going to buy an Oracle license so............
 
@MartinJames :)
 
@Drew I found PostgreSQL to be real good. I'm sure its spatial libraries are nice.
 
@Tunaki Why not? Ora licences are really .... . yeah OK.
 
what do you want to do with it?
 
11:57 PM
"Same thing we do every night, Tunaki. Try to take over the world!"
 
@AndrasDeak The mice thingy...
 
Ha there's a module for that. import JonSkeet.
 
@Tunaki E_FILESIZE
 
Im Back Guys!! @Tunaki @Adriaan @AndrasDeak
 
Welcome back
 
11:58 PM
'Laboratory mice....' it'll come to me...
 
PINKY AND THE BRAIN!
 
yup
 

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