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7:00 PM
@kayess Flagged as not constructive ;)
 
@Kyll Yeah right
 
@LinusKleen Plop! Please don't forget to add [tag:cv-pls] for our tracking devices
 
@BhargavRao Comment left.
 
@BhargavRao So was I wrong about it? Because I have also linked to my previous answer in this one ?:(
 
@LinusKleen Also yeah, formatting doesn't work on multiline chat messages. Heh, good enough :p
 
7:02 PM
@Kyll :-/
 
@kayess Naw, That's not a problem. If you only leave a link then it's a link only answer.
 
@BhargavRao Ah alright, so it's then NAA or VLQ ?
 
Yep. It's Link Only. I flag VLQ for Link Only because that gives the chance for the OP to edit their post outside the review queue
 
Noted.
 
7:08 PM
voted to delete ^
 
Nice, we've deleted a question and replaced it with a question about the deleted question. How is SO better for this? — cory 10 mins ago
I mean
he's not wrong
 
@BhargavRao Does it make any sense?
 
@Kyll Nothing to me
 
None whatsoever.
 
7:16 PM
Meh. Commented. We'll see.
 
i.stack.imgur.com/JIB16.png I have a autocomment for that :D
 
@BhargavRao Don't forget to Be Nice in comments too
 
Yeah. I have used it only once.
That was way before I joined here and did not know that adufbvfsawdofdv must be flagged as rude/abusive.
 
JAL
I flagged this as VLQ rather than NAA because it has formatting problems which are unlikely to be solved by editing, since we have know idea what the user is trying to say
 
@BhargavRao I imagine little Bhargav, wandering all alone in the forest, not knowing what to flag how...
 
7:19 PM
@BhargavRao ...or people had overused LMGTFY to such an extent, that it's now auto-blocked when using it in comments.
 
@AndrasDeak I was walking through a forest, at god's mercy and will. Then a tiny squirrel plopped me here, It's name was Kyll.
 
:)
good thing you weren't starving from all that walking, Kyll could've gotten eaten
 
Is my comment correct in here stackoverflow.com/questions/36092630/…?
 
@kayess link to the how to ask of that site
 
@AndrasDeak Are you not correctly receiving the message sent by my spear?
 
7:23 PM
@Kyll does it use bluetooth?
 
@kayess And explain that they need to visit the help center or meta of that site if they are unsure if the question is a fit there
 
@AndrasDeak Teeth tend to turn red when used
 
@rene Edited, thanks.
 
:)
you mean it makes you go rouge?
 
@kayess Be more explicit. "Don't forget to read their [help center] as they have a different format than on Stack Overflow"
AFK. In case I don't come back, Bonne nuit! And congrats again to @Tuna and @Mogs who haven't received enough pings yet.
 
7:25 PM
Cya
 
@Kyll Done, thanks. Bonne nuit!
 
@kayess Purrfect
 
@Kyll ಶುಭ ರಾತ್ರಿ
 
I'm heading to bed so Good Night slackers!
 
Bye o/
Have 4 flags left, And haven't reviewed the CVQ yet. But not feeling like staying up. Guess I'll hit the bed too.
Bye all.
@NATO ABANDONED
 
7:28 PM
Back and Thanks @Tuna for handling the trolling guy
 
@PetterFriberg where? :O
 
You missed it, i don't know much ask @Tuna
 
@BhargavRao thanks for today, see you tomorrow
 
@BhargavRao Night
 
Gunnite! Bye o/
 
7:30 PM
@PetterFriberg I have made a note about that user and the RO team agreed on the action when they return
 
I see @Tuna and @Mogsdad are RO, GREAT CHOICE!!! and congrats!!!!!!!!!!!
saying this I love all the other nominees.. but their time was not yet....
 
Thanks Petter :)
 
@PetterFriberg Thanks! If I'd known about the initiation ritual I might have rethought things. But I'm pretty sure that was apple juice.
 
apple juice.... red wine for you
 
7:55 PM
It's the second time the user has done that and is giving out his mail id and skype id
 
@BhargavRao Flagged as NAA
...and gone.
 
Thanks and Bye
 
@PetterFriberg I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[close] [turtle]"
 
8:03 PM
that always sounds like an odd idiom
"whew, that was a close turtle"
 
Educate me, if you will. What's with the bot message about updating a "session record"?
 
Ba has ask us to close turtle so I'm reviewing the turtle that need to be close(d)
@LinusKleen Is registering our reviews... since I started now it set start time... when I end it will register that...
 
@PetterFriberg To what avail?
 
@PetterFriberg oh good point, that should be related to my time incosistency
 
@LinusKleen For fun
@Closey commands
 
8:13 PM
@PetterFriberg Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
@LinusKleen so we get some stats about how much time we use to review x questions so we have evidence that we can use for the CM-team to convince them we can handle more close votes
 
@Closey total reviews today
 
@PetterFriberg Today, 11 members have reviewed a total of 410 items.
 | User                | Review Items Today |
 |------------------------------------------|
 | Ferrybig            | 60                 |
 | gunr2171            | 60                 |
 | Tunaki              | 60                 |
 | Magisch             | 59                 |
 | TylerH              | 48                 |
 | JAL                 | 47                 |
 | Undo                | 30                 |
 | Rizier123           | 28                 |
 | Mogsdad             | 10                 |
 
@rene Sounds reasonable. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
I still mostly see it as fun... but rene have dark usage of my data....
@LinusKleen You can opt in if you like... to have some fun....
@Closey rene is a slacker....
 
8:17 PM
@LinusKleen np and feel free to request permission, assuming you use your Close Votes in the queue. We also have other means to use your votes effectively.
 
Later guys
 
They go un-monitored
cya
 
Congrats again to the new RO's. For everyone else I appreciate you taking the time to make a nomination and don't be discouraged from doing it again if we hold another election.
 
@rene can I close a session manually? since I have already used many of my cv?
 
8:19 PM
@PetterFriberg I know closey V1 had that feature, not sure if that got ported
 
@rene If it's for statistics, count me in. I cast maybe around ten to twenty a day anyways.
 
Ok, let me see if I can add you
@Closey add 255756 to reviewers
 
@rene I don't know what that permission group is. Run Membership to see a list of permission groups.
 
@clo membership
 
@rene Current users in permission groups:
Reviewer
    Alexander O'Mara (3155639)
    Andras Deak (5067311)
    Andrew Cheong (925913)
    Bhargav Rao (4099593)
    bluefeet (426671)
    Brad Larson (19679)
    Dukeling (1711796)
    durron597 (1768232)
    Félix Gagnon-Grenier (576767)
    Ferrybig (1542723)
    gunr2171 (1043380)
    JAL (2415822)
    JNat (1328704)
    Jon Clements (1252759)
    Kevin Guan (5299236)
    Kyll (4174897)
    Madara Uchiha (871050)
    Magisch (5389107)
    Mogsdad (1677912)
    Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW (3956566)
 
8:22 PM
@Closey add 255756 to Reviewer
 
@rene I've added @LinusKleen to the Reviewer group.
 
That was fun to watch. Thx.
 
@LinusKleen you do know you have 60 close votes now, right?
 
I deduced from the statistics.
 
@LinusKleen I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:23 PM
And we need to be a bit effective in the CVQ to keep them at 60 when the test period ends
 
@rene I doubt that I'll get those done tonight, but I'll keep it in mind.
 
@LinusKleen OK, this is the background: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/319131/…
@clo next 5 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@rene The next 5 tags are: 1337, 1336, 37, 32, 29
 
That I've read
 
OK, great
 
8:27 PM
@PetterFriberg no, if you/we runs stats on the reviews you have done it will know that you only did X in this current UTC day.
there is no such thing as "sessions" anymore, just reviews in a UTC day
 
so all the votes outside of review is not counted...
 
correct
as it always has been
closey only tracks review items in the CV queue
 
Sam
@PetterFriberg You can't. A "session" is the whole duration of a day.
It ends at midnight.
 
@Sam I beg to differ:P
 
So, @Tunaki and @Mogsdad are now new ROs? Congrats!
 
8:29 PM
see my comment on the timing bug
 
@gunr2171 ok, thanks, you like us to only vote in review que during the test period?
 
Hello @Kevin o/
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
 
Thanks :)
 
8:29 PM
@LinusKleen nice work
 
@PetterFriberg we're done testing the bot, we think it's pretty stable. So feel free to use your close votes wherever
inb4 it crashes
 
@gunr2171 I intended the test period of 60 CV?
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak Those are just stats generated by the bot.
 
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Sam's fault.
 
8:30 PM
@PetterFriberg I'm swooning here. That's the first time someone (may it be a bot or an actual human being) congratulated me for that. :-|
 
Sam
A session is still considered to span a whole day in the bot's eyes.
 
ok:(
 
Sam
(We use the term "session" very loosely.)
 
@PetterFriberg oh, yeah. Doesn't matter. The only problem with the queue maxing at 60 now is that you also have that number of close votes. Normally you have 10 extra close votes becides the ones you can cast in the CV queue. That means if you spend even one CV outside the queue for this month you won't hit the queue max.
which is annoying, but oh well.
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
8:32 PM
@Closey total reviews today
 
@gunr2171 Today, 13 members have reviewed a total of 437 items.
 | User                | Review Items Today |
 |------------------------------------------|
 | Ferrybig            | 60                 |
 | gunr2171            | 60                 |
 | Tunaki              | 60                 |
 | Magisch             | 59                 |
 | TylerH              | 48                 |
 | JAL                 | 47                 |
 | Undo                | 30                 |
 | Rizier123           | 28                 |
 | Linus Kleen         | 17                 |
 
still waiting for a mod to break past the max
 
Who edits?
 
@JAL Flag.
 
8:36 PM
@JAL yes
 
@JAL NAA
 
@JAL Hum, I wouldn't flag that.
 
JAL
imo it should be a comment, but flag according to your allegiance to each close deity: King VLQ or Queen NAA
 
@Tunaki Bring some more code. That looks and sounds like a comment.
 
Rephrased to "You need to init the textfield before seting his text.".
 
8:38 PM
O, disagreement! call the RO's ... oh wait...
 
:D
 
JAL
lol
 
@Tunaki ok but there is no code... so its asking for clarification
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
 
@LinusKleen very good
 
8:40 PM
@PetterFriberg Indeed.
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
@Tunaki Anyway, is that enough for an answer? Does it really answer the question?
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version dcf4566e on master, running for 1 day, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 50 seconds (tracking latency 6668ms).
 
only 2 milliseconds off
 
Sam
ikr
 
8:40 PM
@KevinGuan It's more than nothing, it does try to add a little bit of information. Downvote worthy IMO is all.
 
@JAL if Tuna do not edit it, the review que will delete it ; )
 
He, look at the new answer that says the same thing, but with code
Wafflez
 
Three more reviews in the CVQ on MSE and I'm on their leaderboard as well!
 
Woot
 
So I just Ninja'd two ROs? Wow I'm cool!
 
JAL
8:43 PM
Kevin and Sam just invalidated my flags -_-
 
Hi Cool, I'm gunr2171
5
 
JAL
hi dad
 
lol
 
Sam
@Tunaki I agree, but the author has requested more info, which I'm not going to interfere with.
 
@JAL HE WILL KICK YOU!
 
Sam
8:43 PM
@KevinGuan I wasn't going to edit that part anyway.
 
Dad jokes: the most cringeworthy of puns
 
@Sam Okay, but I'm still cool.
Hey Sam, I'm cool.
 
Sam
Yes, yes...
 
You're too cool now. Go post a Meta.
 
Sam
You can submit an entire Meta site these days?
I've been away from meta longer than I thought...
 
8:46 PM
lol
post a Meta
 
Sam
I'm afk. Bye Cool & gunr2171.
 
Cya
 
I've been thinking about this. We should force user to leave comments when they downvote. Why don't you ask Meta that @Kev?
 
@Tunaki There're already some meta posts about it.
 
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
8:48 PM
I know it was a trick
 
@Tunaki Get made an RO and turn evil trickster hey!? :p
 
:D
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
@LinusKleen You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 5 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 25 minutes and 32 seconds, averaging to a review every 25 seconds.
 
@JonClements Well yeah, the first thing you do when you become an RO is think "man, I could kick everyone here."
 
@gunr2171 Even Mods.
 
8:49 PM
@gunr2171 you're welcome to try - bring it on :p
 
with mods it would be "I could suspend everyone on the site"
 
Statistics FTW. I already love this bot.
 
But he'll kick you then.
@Tunaki Fine, very evil.
 
@LinusKleen thanks!
 
@gunr2171 Are you the author?
 
8:51 PM
Sam and I are the developers of Closey
 
@LinusKleen She's a good bot yeah, but you can also try work with our Smokey. Better and better.
 
@KevinGuan oh, actually no. RO's can't kick mods.
 
@gunr2171 Right on. Looks like solid work.
 
@Kyll @PraveenKumar @Tushar @EricD. your close vote is disputed here
 
@gunr2171 Can't you? Okay which saves you.
 
8:54 PM
@rene thanks
 
I mean, not that I would want to kick Jon, because he's the "best" mod ever
2
 
@KevinGuan I'm still sorta new to this room but already noticed the SmokeDetector.
 
: )
 
@rene Thanks.
 
!!/help
 
8:55 PM
@gunr2171 Well - of course. Goes without saying surely? cough cough :p
 
@KevinGuan I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
@LinusKleen ^^^
 
You're the best mod named Jon that visits SOCVR in history
 
I preferred the first version :)
 
I'm out for today, back later for gaming, cya
 
8:56 PM
Cya
 
laters
 
Huh...I wonder that is who's better between Clements and Skeets - They all named Jon!
@gunr2171 And Cya
 
cya
@rene Who delete it, owner?
 
@PetterFriberg No, 4 20kers
 
@JonClements -1, it should be laterz
 
9:00 PM
@Tunaki Downvote mod's message, really?
 
I can't kick them, might as well downvote them :p
 
Hmm...can you move them to trash?
> deleted by Eric D., Mureinik, Antti Haapala, Soner Gönül 11 hours ago
Note that there're also 2 reopen votes and 2 undelete votes.
Hey what? A mod also answered that question.
 
@KevinGuan yeah, it is going to be a battle about don't delete old stuff that doesn't do any harm
 
another SOCVR bashing coming up...
 
9:04 PM
@rene Ah yeah. But why don't we leave it alone, after it get deleted?
@Tunaki It's a test, tests you're a good RO or not.
 
@KevinB I already pinged our members that were involved here. I assume they are happy to explain their reasoning. It qualified for the old question got new answer attention. — rene 1 min ago
 
You guys really like to get hot on meta ... : )
 
Yes, that is the primary goal
 
Which can make us more famous and bring us more members.
 
Which makes Shog angry for the last time and shuts us down
 
9:13 PM
hmm... I would use a different marketing strategy...
 
@PetterFriberg I'm a dev, I don't do marketing
 
@rene Yeah your evil plan failed that time.
 
I'll take Shog on one-on-one at Mario Kart to decide the fate of the room before anything happens. Winner takes all.
 
lol, but please avoid stacking comments on that meta.... (I do marketing as well : )
 
@PetterFriberg Seriously? I'm all for transparency hence my initial comment. I do hope one of the members involved in closing write an answer because that is what we expect from our regulars when asked for on meta.
Piling on comments is not the way to go, not on main and not on meta
That is true
 
9:19 PM
Yes, we just need to wait now and hope one of the voters will answer. No need to add further comment.
 
If everyone keeps their head cool it should work out nicely
 
@BhargavRao do know we follow the strategy of not piling on comments on posts where the room is involved.
 
Oops, sorry. I deleted that. I did not see your comment there, sorry again.
 
np, and thx for removing that.
 
9:29 PM
Thanks and Bye.
 
\o
 
Bye o/
 
Bye o/
 
9:41 PM
@Closey You have no more close votes today; come back in 2 hours.
 
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@AlexanderO'Mara The next 10 tags are: 1337, 1336, 37, 32, 29, 27, 25, 25, 24, 24
 
@Closey total reviews today
 
@PetterFriberg Today, 13 members have reviewed a total of 517 items.
 | User                | Review Items Today |
 |------------------------------------------|
 | Ferrybig            | 60                 |
 | gunr2171            | 60                 |
 | Tunaki              | 60                 |
 | Linus Kleen         | 59                 |
 | Magisch             | 59                 |
 | TylerH              | 48                 |
 | JAL                 | 47                 |
 | Petter Friberg      | 38                 |
 | Rizier123           | 30                 |
@AlexanderO'Mara I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@Tuna spam?
 
9:48 PM
yes
 
seemed like link was related to question....
 
I would say it could be spam, but is might also be a software recommendation. I say we close the question, and delete the answer.
 
1 vote remaining
 
rene passed a audit!
 
0 CV... just here to see if rene manage to pass the audits
 
10:02 PM
Rizier123 passed a audit!
 
@Closey You have no more close votes today; come back in 1 hour.
@Closey commands
 
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by the SOCVR developers. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
@AlexanderO'Mara Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
audit stats - Shows stats about your recorded audits.
commands - Shows this list.
current tag - Get the tag that has the most amount of manageable close queue items from the SEDE query.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
 
@Close stats
 
9437 need review
2926 reviews today
3175168 reviews all-time
Rizier123 passed a audit!
 
@Closey reviews today
 
10:10 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara You've reviewed 44 posts today (of which 1 was an audit). The time between your first and last review today was 22 minutes and 52 seconds, averaging to a review every 31 seconds.
@Rizier123 You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 10 hours, 34 minutes, and 16 seconds, averaging to a review every 10 minutes and 34 seconds.
 
10 hours, 34 minutes, and 16 seconds, averaging tea break included
 
rene passed a audit!
Félix Gagnon-Grenier has started reviewing!
 
I made a draft for what could be my answer to the current meta question. I'm just not sure about my english because I'm very tired - also I hope there's no stupid typo, so does someone want to have a look before I post? It's a rather short answer.
Here's the link, I will delete the Gist later: gist.github.com/ericdke/594446dae353f9c39a39
 
10:26 PM
reading
 
@rene You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 53 minutes, and 15 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 53 seconds.
 
@Rizier123 ask for a manual report please
with Closey reviews today
 
@EricD. comment left
 
@Tunaki thanks
on it
 
@EricD. I would add since it was attracting new activity... (to avoid leave it alone comments)
If this is true as it seems to be...
 
10:34 PM
It is, there was a new answer yesterday.
 
@PetterFriberg I'd like to keep it short and simple because I just want to defend my vote, not to justify anything else. But I see your point.
 
@PetterFriberg true, but that is something for Kyll to add if he prefers to answer as well
I think the gist so far from @EricD. is already heading in the right direction.
 
"I thought I voted" seems strange as well, "I believe I voted" ... or maybe someone else can suggest better...
 
@PetterFriberg "As I recall, ..."
There is info in the help that speaks directly to the concept of "answerable" questions. That doesn't mean someone can't give AN answer, only that it can't be THE answer.
 
@Tunaki updated
updated to "As I recall"
 
10:42 PM
@EricD. :)
 
I like it. If there aren't any objections, feel free to post it.
 
Evening
 
@EricD. you can post it , go ahead
 
Thanks for your fixes and suggestions, it's much cleaner now. I will post this in a minute.
 
@KirkBeard hi
 
10:45 PM
@KirkBeard Hiya
 
Gist deleted, btw.
 
@KirkBeard Hiya
 
After some quick advice. I noticed a user who has posted a lot of answers, that are mostly bit.ly links to www.jooria.com. But, some of my flags were declined "if they're 404 links, they're not spam". What should I do about it?
 
wayback-machine to the rescue
 
i'm now banned from flagging. 2 spam flags were approved, 4 declined, and now I'm banned from flagging, so I can't flag a mod
 
10:50 PM
Maybe Ed is here if you dare to ping him...
 
Did you flag as spam?
 
I flagged the first one as NAA then realised it was a pattern, so I flagged others as spam
 
In pattern cases you better use a custom mod flag so you can explain what is going on
 
Wasn't sure whether I should flag each post as spam because some of the users answers are legit, so I wasn't sure whether I should do a custom flag
 
@PetterFriberg Mods can't lift flag-bans. :(
 
10:52 PM
Ok, I know that for next time. Any idea how to get my ban lifted? Meta post or ping a mod?
 
Post with links that are dead should be down voted first (and/or leave a comment)
 
@rene Yes that. Or if it's very unclear that it's spam, use a custom flag. (I was recently flag banned for similar reasons and that was the advice given to me)
 
All of the links were bit.ly » www.jooria.com (which I assume is their site), which is why I chose spam.
 
@KirkBeard Mods have a lot of work, but Ed enter directly after you to avoid meta you could try to ping him... it does not seem to rude to me...
 
A mod-flag explaining the situation would have been better. It's unfortunate that you're banned now but I don't think there's anything you can do.
 
10:54 PM
@EdCottrell are you available?
 
The answers are unsalvagable anyway, way-back machine entry is that web.archive.org/web/20101007085436/http://www.jooria.com/… which is just another series of links...
 
They're all dead links essentially, but the user was still promoting a site (which I presume to be their site)
 
@KirkBeard I have some guidance written here on spam posts
 
That is spam...
 
@KirkBeard Keep in mind that spam flags carry a 100 rep penalty. This user has a lot of content on SO.
 
10:58 PM
@rene Thanks, read and understood.
 

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