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12:08 AM
Morning
@Mogsdad Ah, okay. I'll post an issue now.
 
@SmokeDetector what a garbage question ><
 
self-deleted
 
Sam
12:34 AM
night
 
@Undo I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
12:58 AM
flagged @Kev
 
Kev
1:16 AM
@Drew In prev message you suggested I look at batch 061, which I did, but is there some workflow used to process said batches?
 
@Kev I primarily post batches at close vote counts of 3 or 4. Sometimes comment on whether or not I looked at them, or voted. Other than that, just perform independent review and choose on your own.
 
Kev
@Drew ah, ok.
 
thx
 
I'm not sure that's technically spam...since OP asked this
 
Kev
@AndrasDeak it's spam, there's a deleted answer from the same crowd posting the same link
@AndrasDeak have also flagged the question because off-topic and just a honeypot for "amazing video downloader" spam
 
1:27 AM
thanks for the heads up
I keep bumping into <10k problems;)
 
<500 problems lol
 
1:45 AM
hey guys
New here
Was just wondering what do you do if someone asks a question, you answer, and the asker edits the question without you not realizing, and your answer becomes irrelevant?
A moderator deleted my post after someone edited their question, but now I can't really edit my answer either
 
link to the question?
 
Not sure if this is the right room for that, but if you give a link we can maybe help?
 
Oh, sorry one moment.. wasn't sure where to ask
 
No it's fine
 
1:48 AM
Was your answer concering indentation?
 
This just seemed to be the most active room lol. No it was regarding the wrong function used (raw_input vs input)
 
Huh...
 
@UNOwen your answer was removed because it wasnt an answer. it was a comment asking for clarification
 
Since originally they were asking why am I getting nameerror (raw_input is undefined), and that was because raw_input doesn't exist in python
argh I guess
alright fair point
thanks guys
 
Your 20 rep away bud :)
 
1:50 AM
that was disheartening :/ oh well
 
Everyone was there once wanting to help but not being able to comment.
 
@UNOwen 10 valuable edits to posts will also give you 20 rep
 
Just be patient, edit 10 posts or provide a good answer and you'll be good go with commenting.
 
@UNOwen Sadly - there'd be little point in undeleting it - Rob's answer covers it all without all the preamble...
 
Yea, it's just that those answers didn't even show up till later, but yea good point guys
Alright, gonna work on my rep then, cheers!
 
1:52 AM
We get that, just go put some useful edits together and I would not be suprised if you were able to comment by the end of today.
Cheers
 
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Rob
 
Yes I saw that one.
 
@Signal I don't think so:P
 
What the hell happened there?
 
Rob
Trying to delete their question, I suppose
 
usually, yes
but upvoted/accepted answers prevent that from happening
 
2:18 AM
Hmm.
Heheh. Spam flagged it too, didn't realize what was happening..
 
@Mogsdad You've reviewed 40 posts today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 33 minutes and 14 seconds, averaging to a review every 49 seconds.
 
@Signal Even with the garbage in it, that wasn't spam. If you are building a collection of rejected flags, go ahead... but the proper flag would have been "abusive". That said - keep an eye out for people vandalizing their own posts, in which case an edit to revert is the proper reaction.
 
Will do. Thank you @Mogsdad
 
Happens far to often - sometimes the OP just needs to be told HOW to delete their question, when they have no answers and realized they made a typo, say.
 
@Signal for the record, the rule of thumb for "cat on keyboard" (for new posts) seems to be OP.rep()==1?spam:abusive
or not?
wait it might be ?abusive:NAA :D
point is that non-verylowrep-user posting gibberish is not spam
 
2:35 AM
Gotcha.
 
@AndrasDeak Good point - if the post has not been edited into a mess, but originated as one: Flag NAA / abusive if it's an answer, abusive if a question.
 
thanks:)
 
On SO, "Spam" isn't just unwanted, rather it designates posts that are promotional, with little or no value as an answer.
 
and deletion-by-spamflags means -100 rep to the author
 
Once again, I've spent 50 CVs just reviewing outstanding cv-pls requests, and I'm not quite caught up. I did "leave open" two that had been edited since the first votes, but there are lots that should be closed and have 3 or 4 votes currently. Check out the unclosed requests list!
 
2:58 AM
Hi @Tushar!
 
Hey Mogs
Hey Cimmy
 
@Tushar @cimmanon; just came across an answer that's alluding to needing remote access to the OP's computer to come up with an answer. Flaggable, do you think? Or just comment about that being a Very Bad Idea, and move on?
 
@Mogsdad Comment will be good idea
And if there is need of remote access to OP's comp. then the Q. may be closed as No MCVE
 
3:15 AM
^^^ That's the question with the offending answer, I've commented on it with a ref to MSO.
 
@Mogsdad Flagged answer as NAA too
 
ofc, so did I - once deciding against a custom flag, that is.
 
3:29 AM
Quiet night (which I've no doubt just jinxed). I'm out of c & d, and everyone is behaving so flagging is boring! I'll call it a night - be safe out there!
 
4:01 AM
How is this not too broad? The question is essentially How do I write an app to determine download/upload speeds
Plus 10 upvotes, and it's an close vote audit question
User has 74 questions, 3 answers. Why am I not surprised.
 
@JamesENL it was addressed superficially in pseudo code and attracted attention due to a bounty. People were excited about the concept
There weren't adequate TV shows to watch at the time. They too had interest in silly trivia
 
Well, I'm VTC as too broad
 
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4:35 AM
@Tushar deleted
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
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@Drew I'm surprised it had so many upvotes.
 
Is the event coming? Very good.
@Closey stats
 
7545 need review
309 reviews today
3163572 reviews all-time
 
ready for the event
 
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4:50 AM
@KevinGuan I'll do it, I've been on the review queue. but I can wait
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW That's fine, I'd wait 10 mins anyway.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW bounty. Something people can relate to.
 
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@Drew ah k
 
You were asking about the android thingie
 
Anyone thinks that talking with Drew is hard and you must shutdown your brain?
 
user3956566
4:54 AM
@Drew yep got it
 
user3956566
oh heck I have to drop my son to martial arts.. hm I might be able to do part of the event
 
@KevinGuan Feel free not to talk to me
 
@Drew Hmm...I think shutdown my brain is better.
 
user3956566
@Drew I think it's an honest attempt at failed humour :/
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan hey it's not sounding nice K. It can be taken as offensive
 
4:56 AM
no problem
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I'm just joking you know :(
 
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@KevinGuan I know that, read above, but I don't think Drew is enjoying it and it's coming out all wrong. That happens to me sometimes too, so don't feel shamed. It's just trying to joke online sometimes fails hey :)
 
I don't mind really
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Ah, okay. Let's join the event and review!
@Closey next tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@KevinGuan The next 3 tags are: 37, 32, 29
 
4:58 AM
@Drew Thanks.
@Closey Hmm...I think you should give me at least 5 tags...but okay.
Oh, . That's simple.
Ahh...I forgot Closey
@Closey opt in
 
@KevinGuan You have opted-in to tracking, and will remain this way until you run opt out.
@KevinGuan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
5:14 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier @Shadow can you guys go Unclear as this is either aging everyday or found late stackoverflow.com/q/35478542
 
5:37 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I have answered your question below my gist and I hope that I didn't misunderstand it.
 
Kevin Guan passed a audit!
@KevinGuan You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 40 minutes and 41 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 1 second.
 
Yeah thanks.
 
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6:09 AM
@KevinGuan thanks
 
6:39 AM
too funny
if u can help me im waiting for ur answer , if u cant u can just ignore my question and thank u . — MOhamed 18 hours ago
 
user3956566
I love it when people say if you don't like my question please don't downvote it..
 
Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW passed an audit!
 
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6:57 AM
@tripleee deleted
 
user3956566
7:25 AM
afk
 
JS-experts - Incorrectly marked as dupe?-> meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/318996/…
 
^has no powers here
!!/coffee
 
@Adriaan brews coffee for @Adriaan
 
@Adriaan free coffee is power enough :)
 
7:41 AM
Morning
 
@Ferrybig o/
 
Hi
!!/alive
 
7:59 AM
Maybe it's alive, but just asleep? :p
 
No, smokey has died, RIP Smokey, last seen 2016-03-15 07:46:27
 
No probs, someone do = new Smokey();
 
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back
 
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!!/alive
 
user3956566
really is dead
 
8:14 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW hey there :)
 
user3956566
@SmokeDispenser hi :D
 
@SmokeDispenser hi :D
 
Choo choo
 
fast crash :D
allright then. I'm tired let's see how that works out.
 
At work?
 
8:19 AM
mornin' all
 
@TimCastelijns, yes
@Gimby mornin'
 
> Can anyone suggest me the best options to do this, and suggest some documentations/ tutorials or any kind of reference to do the same
How close?
 
@SmokeDispenser I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@TimCastelijns off site request I'd go
because that is the dominant part
 
Hiya o/
 
8:27 AM
Went with pob :P
Hello gimby and tuna
 
Hiya o/
(from college :P)
 
@Tunaki Hiya o/
 
@BhargavRao I'd say NAA.
 
What's with people parroting static texts that SO throws at them in answers :/
that's not the first time I see it happening
 
8:36 AM
2 people found it unclear and casted a vote
</sarcasm>
 
@SmokeDispenser If I were to CV it, I'd probably go POB due to
> what are the advantages and disadvantages in NSURLSession and NSOperationQueue
(but I didn't) - looks okay(ish) as it is.
 
@SmokeDispenser Primarily Opinion Based.
Madara closed it anyway.
 
Ah, I see
wha?
well, whatever.
 
Was Hastily Answered
 
8:47 AM
nah, I took my time and then asked here. Did almost expect that to happen. Yet, as I got what Op wanted, I might as well answer.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Thanks for your answer. Simple yet effective IMO. (Can't see the image though =( )
 
user3956566
@Tunaki you at work?
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yeah (it's blocked at work)
 
user3956566
@Tunaki is that why you can't see it? You'll love it, I think the SO developers will be able to use it, as is!
 
8:55 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW it's tuna, not the interwebs :)
 
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I'm happy for the SO developers to use my image as is for the new flag box :D - No charge! — Ms Yvette ǝʇʇǝʌʎ sW 9 secs ago
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yep. For some reason, imgur is blocked by corporate proxy.
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW, nice painting skills.
 
user3956566
@SmokeDispenser who said I used paint, I paid a graphic artist to do that :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW oh. hopefully you didn't pay more than nothing :D
 
user3956566
8:57 AM
@Tunaki tbh I think the community may spend a lot of time arguing over what to call it and how to describe it.
 
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@SmokeDispenser :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW As long as they discuss that, it's fine with me. At least, it means they are considering the change ;).
 
user3956566
@Tunaki as long as it doesn't bring it to a stand still.
 
I don't think that "severe" formatting problems is a valid reason to delete an answer, so you might want to remove that from the flag reason
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns it's in the current flag reason. Can you make a comment on that under the answer? It would be helpful to collect feedback there.
 
8:58 AM
Formatting problems are maybe the one thing that can be fixed
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW True.
 
I know but while we are on the road of improving it, might as well include it
 
!!/alive
Rude / abusive ----------^
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I feel the punctuation in the new flag reason could use some improvement
 
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@TimCastelijns yes definitely. It's a community wiki if you feel like you'd like to improve it. I don't think one person is going to solve it.
 
9:11 AM
English is not my native language though. Sometimes I think I am improving it while I actually am making it worse
Rather leave it up to the smart peeps
 
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@TimCastelijns yes it could be broken down. Maybe wait for some more feedback, I don't want to jump in too much and then keep fiddling with it, unless I know it's going to be an improvement. I liked your comment! Good reasoning. Thanks for that
 
user3956566
@Tunaki smokes is.... sniff dead!
 
-.-
My fellow Smoke.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki can you remove the "ideas are welcome" suggestion for the new flag, as some people will object to that and may vote against that the the idea of the flag merge?
 
Should I try running smoke detector on my account?
 
9:18 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW What would I write instead? Something like "Low Quality"?
 
Plop!
 
@Kyll Hiya o/
 
@Kyll Hiya o/
 
user3956566
@Tunaki No need to make a suggestion. Or just say, and the community can decide on the new name perhaps? You know I am very bad at writing question on meta yes? :D Much better luck with answers
 
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@Kyll ploppity plop :D
 
9:19 AM
@rene (Or any other room owner) May I ask for permission to run SmokeDetector from my account?
 
@Tunaki maybe we need a whole new name. There are valid answers of low quality that don't deserve deletion. I'm thinking in the direction of "shit quality" if you see what I mean
 
@TimCastelijns Oi, cut that out. Your English is very goodly.
 
@TimCastelijns I see what you mean :D
 
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@TimCastelijns OOoooh I like it
 
As per the comment I added to ms yvette's brave suggestion, so do I :p
 
9:20 AM
@Ferrybig If only for StackOverflow reports, yes.
 
© 2016
 
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@Gimby I make those kind of jokes with my kids.
 
user3956566
hi @rene
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Look at my edit.
 
\o
 
9:20 AM
o/
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns you realise you kill an English teach every time you don't construct a sentence properly? :D
 
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@Tunaki nice
 
dat teach, @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW
 
There are valid answers of low quality that don't deserve deletion. - @TimCastelijns - Thousands of 'em.. I've gotto say many of those are kind of old (<2013)
 
Hiya @TheLostMind o/
 
user3956566
9:22 AM
@TheLostMind hi! \o
 
Olo @Tunaki , @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW yes but I believe your kill count is at least 10x higher than mine
 
Sorry i meant plop
 
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@TimCastelijns hey wat do u mean? :D
 
@TheLostMind Plop! =D
 
9:23 AM
@Kyll - plop!
:P
 
user3956566
Kaboom, an English teacher explodes
 
hey TLM :)
 
Oh god, TheLostMind was contaminated. It spreads! Let's hide! Haaaaaaa
 
(w/o hilight due to popular request;))
 
@SmokeDispenser - Olo
 
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9:23 AM
@SmokeDispenser you really are taking that whole ping thing to heart aren't you :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW, sure.
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW if i get heat from all of you for that. sure:)
 
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@SmokeDispenser hey... :p
 
(thinks for a moment and realizes that he doesn't have a good rebuttal) @Tunaki
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW I mean you've killed more teachers than I have
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns I know what you're referring to! I guess others may not.. where's your original link to that in chat?
 
9:26 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW It was like 10 minutes ago
 
user3956566
I have the perfect name for the new very Low Q flag... it hurts my eyes flag
 
Burn This With Fire flag.
 
Yay discussing the same material in two places :)
 
But we can't flag tags
burnination ambiguity
 
9:27 AM
@TheLostMind o/
 
@PraveenKumar - Olo
 
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@Gimby I have been emailing, facebooking and texting at the same time with my sister, in the same room talking. Best record yet.
 
:D :D
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW ha :) That's only slightly less awkward then emailing with your boss who's sitting in the same room.
 
emailing, facebooking and texting at the same time with my sister, in the same room @MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW - How big is that room?
 
user3956566
9:29 AM
@Gimby my kids will often text me when they are wanting to tell me something they don't want their siblings to hear when we're in the same room.
 
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@TheLostMind normal size, we think we're hilarious.
 
i see
 
TLM there are valid reasons.. like privacy
 
Key word "we"
 
@TheLostMind Another English teacher just died.
They must be going extinct!
 
9:32 AM
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW btw, I'm doing so with TLM only, not with Jon, for example;)
 
@SmokeDispenser - (some person in some big crazy building laughing out aloud) Privacy?, what is that thing?. We know everything
 
Woaah, there is so many questions under the nominations
 
@Tunaki - Wow. Time to become French then:P
 
@TLM, ;)
 
9:34 AM
there actually exists one secure messenger;)
 
@KevinGuan Well, I don't think it's off-topic and I think the answer is important. What if, one day, someone comes and says "SOCVR members have been abusing unicorns in an unacceptable way in the Ministry and it shows that this whole room should burn in a fire"?
 
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@TimCastelijns correct :D
 
@TheLostMind Yes! Yes! Of course!
 
@Tunaki - Jhu ma pel TLM.
(a French teacher just went plop!:)
 
Hmmmmmm. I cannot parse that. Could you update me with the corresponding dictionary?
 
9:37 AM
TLM, there are way too less backticks on that line.
 
Haaaaaaaaaa I see
So weird I didn't even understand it :D
 
@TheLostMind Arghl
 
(oo) -> [plop]
 
@Tunaki, just throw a bunch of diacritics on it an add some 'e's at the end :)
 
@Kyll There are. Interesting questions though.
 
9:38 AM
@Tunaki Reading through them...
 
Also, I understood. And my french (language) skills are known to find their bounds with 'baguette'
 
@SmokeDispenser Everything starts with a baguette™
 
@BhargavRao Isn't link-only for me.
 
@BhargavRao Not LO or NAA, still meh.
 
9:40 AM
@Tunaki I did not flag. But if you read the question, the ans is link only. They ask how to install Target (and other Targets at this location) without having to install visual studio?
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 26 secs ago, by Ferrybig
Running smokey on my dedicated server until the real smokey is online
!!/alive
@Ferrybig ... did I miss something?
 
^ Noted.
@BhargavRao Yeah the answer is bad.
 
@Tunaki Yep.
 
As per the "your answer is in another castle" SE post, turning the link into static text turns it into "Yes, you can use the MSBuild.Microsoft.VisualStudio.Web.targets package". That's an attempt to answer. Just not a very successful attempt.
 
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@Ferrybig yes you did!!! Lots of spam
 
9:42 AM
Mogsdad's way of editing comments under his gist is really great
 
@Kyll You think? I actually didn't like it myself :D
 
This time it is really like an election.
 
@Ferrybig "You have under 1000 messages in SOCVR (about 13 messages a day). Do you view this as a limitation?" running smokey on your account is a smart way to invalidate this question.. very smart
 
Note to all of us: The SmokeDetector runs under the account of @Ferrybig until real Smokey is back
6
 
@BhargavRao Except we don't get to vote =p
!!/alive
 
9:44 AM
@Kyll Kinda sorta
@TimCastelijns It will be for less than 1 day, so probably 20ish messages
 
How do we know if real smokey is alive?
!!/realsmokeyalive
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao what is?
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao real smokey is down
 
I assume Ferry keeps on eye on that
 
user3956566
9:45 AM
@rene yes from charcoal HQ
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Yep, I know. Ferry's taking note :)
 
Worst case we have two bots causing havoc here ....
 
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@BhargavRao oh yes, I don't enjoy it.
 
@BhargavRao I guess all living Smokeys would answer !!/alive
 
!!/coffee
 
9:46 AM
@PraveenKumar brews coffee for @PraveenKumar
 
user3956566
double spam reports
 
@rene Is Yam still not available or are you guys testing it still?
 
Woah... @Ferrybig you became a bot? :O
 
user3956566
@PraveenKumar he is running SD from his PC
 
Nice.
 
9:47 AM
@PraveenKumar read back 10 lines
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW Not directly from my pc, but from my server in the cloud
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig yep, I wanted to keep it simple :D
 
@Ferrybig PC = Personal Cloud ;)
 
@BhargavRao That's bad as hell.
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig and same commands apply I assume
 
9:48 AM
It's not cloud, It's someone else's PC
 
@PraveenKumar don't pile on, please
 
@rene Ok
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao technically correct
 
@BhargavRao is right, there is no such thing as a "cloud"
 
9:49 AM
@BhargavRao Ha ha. Okay.
 
I'll go along with that, "cloud" is just a non-existent hype name.
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns it refers to offsite hardward that someone else is being paid to maintain
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig k
 
user3956566
@Gimby totally misleading. And nonsensical really. It would be better as offsite hardware resources.
 
user3956566
OHR
 
9:50 AM
What happened to the real SD?
 
@Rizier123 Undo must have changed closet.
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 died and waiting for the right people to come back online
 
@MsYvetteǝʇʇǝʌʎsW There's tons of funny "The Cloud is just someone else's computer" stickers you can buy =D
 
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@Kyll nice.. might buy one. :D
 
Na... He's just a dev at SO. So became mod himself. LoL.
 
9:55 AM
@Tuna I took care of the mid batch of NATO, (2hrs before to 5hrs before). Dave did a sweep of the ones b4 that. Hope you taking care now.
I'm down to 50 flags, I'll be there too, jic
 
@BhargavRao I am.
 
I copied a few of ya auto-comments and modified them.
 
I noticed :)
 
it sure is opinion based;)
 
9:59 AM
yeah I was juggling with that possibility too, what is "bad" is highly situational
 

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