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12:00 AM
cool. Ok bye for real now.
 
user4639281
Bye o/
 
JAL
@AndrasDeak Had the exact same problem here, not sure what can be done
1400 rep, 96 votes
Member for 6 years, 6 months
I guess if users don't want to vote, they don't want to vote. Nothing can be done.
 
@JAL thanks for the feedback!
I've decided to instruct them in the mean time
I was really reluctant to do so, since it's basically "please upvote me"
but it also affects a bunch of other answerers to OP's questions, so I decided to go with it
 
JAL
@AndrasDeak Link to your comment?
 
12:13 AM
where am i
 
was just about to post myself
 
oh i think im in the wrong place lol oops
 
@TheCoffeeKid you've died and this is hell. Welcome, I shall be your guide.
 
user4639281
@TheCoffeeKid I don't know, where are you?
 
oh rly
can i see where my living quarters are in hell?
 
user4639281
12:14 AM
Nah, you just stumbled into the janitors closet.
 
aw snap
 
JAL
@AndrasDeak That's a really nice comment, maybe I'll try it
 
@JAL thanks, good luck with it:)
 
no wonder it's all muddy
i would've thot mud evaporated in hell
 
user4639281
@TheCoffeeKid On the menu today is a giant wall of crap, and some new answers to old questions.
 
12:15 AM
i'll take the crap
 
@TheCoffeeKid good lad
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
K, I'm off for a bit
 
@TinyGiant cya!:P
 
is this only for close vote reviewers
 
12:17 AM
@JAL at least in your case there are more votes than questions;)
that OP seems to be less than active
(1180 mod rep cap) rep from a single question
 
I'm not a vote closer dude, am I?
 
What does your heart tell you?
 
my mind is tellin' me no
but my body
is tellin' me yes
 
that's not a good combination, I'm afraid
 
12:21 AM
that is how many of us got born
 
@Drew :D
 
ok then
 
@ProgramFOX Okay!
And morning.
 
@KevinGuan evening
you are the Harbinger of Doom Bedtime
 
lol
 
12:28 AM
These people-on-the-other-half-of-the-globe things keep reminding me of a possible mod candidate Redo:D (5th comment)
(too bad links are disabled to comments there)
 
@AndrasDeak Hmm..."Redo"...very good.
 
-doom-
--doom--
=doom=
==doom==
D:
 
12:53 AM
Question about dupe closing: Can we close a question as dupe another one if the answers can answer the question there, but the question isn't complete same ? So I cast a dupe close vote here and get disagreed by OP, says: "Answers there do answer my question, but my question shouldn't be closed since mine and that aren't the same questions."
 
@KevinGuan I've seen gold badgers hammering a post and leaving a comment along the lines of "The answers in the marked duplicate give a solution to your question" or something
of course the bandwagon is no justification, but at least it's something
 
@AndrasDeak Anyway I think that question should be closed. If not, I can ask a question in three or even more...wait, nevermind.
 
at least I think this sounds like that
(I usually only see @rayryeng in action)
 
Only close real dupes - Spolsky
 
@AaronHall the question is, what constitutes a real dupe?
 
12:57 AM
But everyone else closes as dupes if the answer is in another question
 
"accepted answer solving the same problem" is probably not an official dupe, but it should be
 
Okay, do we have a meta post about this?
 
So I think in practice we don't follow Spolsky
oodles
 
@KevinGuan probably
 
@AndrasDeak I tried to find one and failed :(
@AaronHall Hmm...who's Spolsky by the way?
 
1:00 AM
See my profile
 
@KevinGuan Joel Spolsky? Cofounder of SO?
 
@AaronHall Got it.
 
oops, wanted to link this one
 
> If you're going to close a user's question as a duplicate, it has to be a real duplicate. For example, if a user asks, "What does the IP address 128.0.1.1/24 mean?" it's OK to close that as a duplicate of a more general question like "What do IP addresses of the form a.b.c.d/e mean?" But it's not OK to close it as a duplicate of a twenty-seven page guide to netmasks. That's the moral equivalent of saying "RTFM."
 
@KevinGuan there's a tumbleweed for it on meta
this might be mildly related, unsure
 
1:03 AM
@AndrasDeak Hmm...we can close the first one as dupe the second one I think =p
 
@AaronHall note that I don't have any moral issues with RTFM (if not abused)
 
F is for fabulous
 
what else
 
tough noogies - just kidding
 
1:08 AM
That's a good one
 
@AndrasDeak Ahhhhh, I have seen that before. Don't know why did I forget it!
 
Yet you'll find many popular meta answers that say if the answers are the same, the question is a dupe, even if not related.
 
well, even mods can't agree on basic policies, why should the community do so?
 
@AndrasDeak Hmm...they're two different answers: Cerbrus's one gets a lot of upvotes; But Anthony one gets accepted. And the funny part is: I downvoted Cerbrus's one and upvoted the another one (when it's Dec 27 '15 at 13:54).
@Closey alive
 
Am I wrong that this edit is assuming too much?
 
1:17 AM
@AndrasDeak But sure...I don't want argue. Let's put this conversion [on-hold] anyway :)
@zondo huh
 
I guess I was right.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels a 6 question cv4 java batch in the beehive
@Reimeus a 10 question cv3 java batch is in the beehive
 
@KevinGuan k;)
@zondo I always fear the day when these editors reach 2k
 
DOOM!
 
1:40 AM
@AndrasDeak do you want to be a stock brocker?
 
What's a "brocker"?
 
This guy does here ... and apparently 2 hours before that
 
Any buddy.
 
or rather here
 
@Drew "I have done my homework so far here... --> link to own closed question"
stock brock sounds like something very hip
Typical for brokers...forcing the notion of classes everywhere.
capitalist pigs
 
1:53 AM
class warfare Andras?
 
Just misunderstand that class waffler.
 
@KevinGuan sounds much more peaceful
 
Yep
!!/coffee
 
@KevinGuan brews coffee for @KevinGuan
 
takes the coffee
 
1:58 AM
> When are two questions considered duplicates?

Basically, questions are duplicates if they have the same (potential) answers. This includes not only word-for-word duplicates, but also the same idea expressed in different words.
Although it's community wiki so subject to modification by myself...
 
good night, all
 
Good night.
 
Bonne nuit.
 
@KevinGuan What language is that?
 
@zondo Hmm...it's French (note that I'm a Chinese anyway).
 
2:05 AM
Sorry; we don't speak French here at the Ends of the Earth.
 
the Ends of the Earth ? O_o
 
That's where I live.
Haven't you ever been there?
 
Nope - where do you live?
 
At the Ends of the Earth. It's a continent between England and the US inclusive (going East).
 
Ah, understand.
 
2:18 AM
batch006 count=18 cv4 is in the beehive
 
2:32 AM
@Drew All done except this one - not sure it should be closed or it's a valid question.
 
just say the word, I delete the batch
there are 2 up there. I moved on to another tag
 
Fine.
 
fine what? :p .... is a batch all done that I should remove in your estimation?
 
Rob
So this answer was flagged as NAA and flag was accepted: stackoverflow.com/questions/1564348/… - but the answer is not deleted, nor was it ever deleted
How can it be accepted without any action taken?
 
Someone was talking about that earlier today. It was on a self-answer / accepted. Left alone. The take away was I believe, thanks, from a mod. Thanks, we acknowledge your existence.
 
Rob
2:40 AM
Hmm, I see
Still don't see how it's a valid answer, though
And it's not like it has hundreds of upvotes
 
Did you downvote it?
 
Rob
Not at the time of flagging, no
Since I expected it to be gone
Have now - but it's kind of pointless since it's the accepted answer
 
Always downvote bad answers
We don't vote enough
 
Rob
I believe at the time I was near 10k and was holding off on DV answers unless they were exceptionally bad
But it's downvoted now, anyway
 
I downvoted the asker for accepting it.
 
user3956566
2:57 AM
morning!
 
user3956566
well it's 2pm
 
user3956566
hi @Rob \o
 
user3956566
hi @AaronHall \o
 
Good morning!
 
2:58 AM
if anyone feels like modding meta.SE: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/276329/…
 
user3956566
hi!!
 
Rob
Hey
 
Hay is for horses but grass costs less. - My dad
 
High is for airplanes but kites cost less. - Me
 
user3956566
I was going to mention smoking grass and getting high... but you know on topic and all that :D
 
3:15 AM
> Tiny - Magic; Tunaki - Waffle; Kyll - Plop; Sam - Bot;
 
Kevin - ...
 
Update: rene - one-box destroyer; Madara - Madara; <and more more more>
@zondo I like them all :P
 
One more question: Zondo - ...?
 
user4639281
@Tunaki @Mogsdad @Drew New NATO script version makes the transition more seamless and removes some performance problems. Firefox - Chrome
 
@zondo Hmm...how about: Zondo - Python ?
 
3:23 AM
That suits me.
 
:P (Note: I have Python silver badge anyway)
 
@EricD. see Tiny's comment a few lines up
 
No fair. :( I have just a bronze one.
 
I have Python gold. why do we care now?
 
@TinyGiant Installed and a question: What do these jshint comments below // ==/UserScript== do?
@AaronHall Hmm...because you can get a waffle?
 
3:26 AM
@AaronHall We need to come up with a word for me, but we can't use Python because others deserve it more.
 
user4639281
Tampermonkey has jshint built in when there is an error. Because I use ECMAScript 6 syntax, I need to use those hints so that it doesn't yell at me about the syntax.
 
@zondo How about parakeet?
 
@TinyGiant Got it.
 
@AaronHall Maybe. What is it supposed to signify? That I talk to much?
 
Hey, it was just a lame suggestion, if you wanted symbolism you should have said so.
 
user4639281
3:30 AM
What are we naming now?
 
Symbolic - zondo... how about Ralph?
 
@AaronHall It just needs to be something that fits me. I hope that "parakeet" doesn't match.
 
what are you trying to come up with a new nick?
 
@AaronHall Why? Every Tom, Dick, and Harry is named "Ralph".
 
user4639281
Zondo - odnoZ?
 
3:31 AM
@TinyGiant can you make a version that does not have the question in it. And a thick line separating answers?
 
@AaronHall Because Kevin came up with words that match many people, but didn't find one for me.
 
Otherwise it is awesome
 
user4639281
You don't like the context?
 
Kevin? which one? there are millions.
 
KevinGuan
 
user4639281
3:32 AM
I like it because it helps figuring out whether the question is the real problem, but sure I can do that.
 
oh, not a lot of those
So @KevinGuan how do I leverage my gold badge into a waffle?
 
@AaronHall Actually, there's only one Kevin currently in the room.
 
Tiny for what I use it for the context is not important. I am just in it for NAA not full service one stop shopping :P
 
user4639281
K
 
Yeah, but I am unhappily aware of many others who are not in the room, and wasn't giving Guan much thought when you said that.
The three male characters on 3rd Rock were named Tom, Dick, and Harry. And the girl was Sally. I really liked that about that show.
 
3:37 AM
That was fake, wasn't it? You won't tell me that those were their real names, will you?
 
characters, not actors
 
@AaronHall Well...maybe try this.
And you can get this finally.
 
Yeah
 
@MsYvette android above ^^
 
user4639281
3:53 AM
@Tunaki @Mogsdad I got tired of updating two scripts, so I gave in and merged the two. I made a couple more enhancements as well - NATO Enhancments
 
for that matter Tiny ignore what I said before. You have enough headaches !
 
user177800
@Rob that is going to take a metric crap tonne of downvotes to get the delete link to show up!
 
user4639281
Nah, that change is simple Drew
 
I never understood the way they designed that screen. Why with the faint separation between Answers. Half the time I would just the ending based on the centering aspect of the thing in the right column (I think it was the guy's name and rep or whatever)
 
user4639281
@Drew I still have to include the question, because that is required to initialize the posts, but I can just hide them. Actually, I can just create a separate script to hide them so I still only have to update one script
 
4:05 AM
*not just the ending .... but rather judge the ending. Because my eyes could not pick up the separation of answers based on the fact that it was all formatted and glommed together
Or just have one script with the default thing and tell me how to tweak a variable or something
 
user4639281
@Drew That will get old though... It's only going to be a couple of lines for the other script
 
LASTLY: Polymorphism. ......
 
Rob
@JarrodRoberson Yep :(
 
user177800
@Drew - I worked the java spreadsheets just now. Can you differentiate the ones that are about to age out that are "duplicate"? I can close those by myself, it is kind of a waste for me to add the penultimate vote or final vote to something when I can close something else with that vote.
 
user177800
@Drew LASTLY LASTLY: please spoon feed me what I want to know so I can regurgitate it on a test without actually knowing what it means.
 
4:11 AM
Jarrod let me get back to that tag in 10 min and ping u
 
user177800
@Drew ok, I usually can burn through my review quota with the duplicate and hammer all the ones that have a single flag and are actually duplicates, mostly "how to compare strings" and "What is an NPE" type crap.
 
I can provide a Jarrod dupe potential sheet
And hide it down in the archive folder
 
Rob
Nearly got the dupe hammer, so it'd be useful for me when that happens, too
 
sure thing
 
user177800
4:19 AM
@Rob what do you need? more votes or just more answers
 
user177800
@Drew +1
 
Rob
@JarrodRoberson Just votes, now. Though it's not extremely close, 840/1000. Maybe in a few weeks time if I'm not too busy at work
When I'm not swamped at work, 10 a day seems doable
 
user177800
@Rob I gave up on and I am not interesting in post yet another explanation why your this is pointing to the wrong thing on the javascript questions and python is just a mess like java with the RTFM questions.
 
Rob
Yeah, same thing across the board, really. Though C# does get quite a few interesting questions. There certainly is a huge amount of dupes, though - which I hope to clear out with the hammer
 
I'm not sure that it is. Considering the number of questions just like that in Python, it seems to be a common problem.
 
user4639281
4:31 AM
@Drew Cleaned up NATO Enhancements a bit more.
 
user4639281
Well that didn't work...
 
lol
And isn't it No MCVE?
 
user4639281
Well.... too broad is a better fit in cases like that. "There's a problem with my site, here's a link".
 
Ah, fine.
 
user4639281
that one worked
 
4:43 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels @Reimeus see dupe req from Jarrod ... thx
 
user4639281
That's not spam... That's just VLQ
 
user4639281
 
Oh, so abuse doesn't qualify for SD?
 
user4639281
Apparently not anymore
 
user4639281
 
5:10 AM
@TinyGiant thx for the new NATO and Hide Questions combo. And the separator line. Hugs.
 
user4639281
Hugs :)
 
user4639281
I'm going to bed. Have a good night all!
 
Rob
5:48 AM
What decides the 'owner' of community wikis? For example here: stackoverflow.com/questions/5928061/…
 
user177800
@TinyGiant duplicate actually -> /questions/5507205/fatal-error-class-not-found
 
Rob
Peter Mortensen only made one small edit half way through the history
Why is his name chosen instead of the owner (or largest contributor?)
 
@AlexanderO'Mara report? stackoverflow.com/a/35713130/1816093
I am half awake
 
@Drew Yeah, looks like it.
 
Rob
6:04 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/35715692/… (Accidentally?) posting porn link - hah
 
@Rob o_O
 
Rob
@Magisch See the answer
 
@Rob ಠ_ಠ
 
6:17 AM
@SmokeDetector is still up
spam nuke pls
 
not only a code dump, but in partial chinese stackoverflow.com/a/35715583/1816093
 
user177800
I feel like DeadPool in the opening sequence where he is counting his shots left when I get down th < 5 votes left for the day! Make every one count!
 
user177800
good night denizens of SO Close vote Reviewers
 
can we close and delete this thing? stackoverflow.com/q/27887719/1816093
attracting new poo
@TinyGiant you fibber you are awake, and bumping version numbers :p
 
user3956566
6:34 AM
@JarrodRoberson night
 
that's a mouthful
@MsYvette do you know any android golds online atm?
 
user3956566
@Drew huh?
 
6:56 AM
@TinyGiant Ah, sorry I was afk. And I have no idea about it. (maybe it's too broad, but I want avoid...another meta post anyway).
 
7:32 AM
Hey guys I hope I can count on you once again to vote to undelete this question
 
user3956566
@Idos I can't see it <10k
 
@MsYvette I know me neither unfortunately
 
7:50 AM
Hello
@Idos don't bother, it will get closed again >.<
 
8:07 AM
I have my faith @TimCastelijns :) if you can cast your vote it will go 1/3 of the way :p
I'll gladly take an undelete vote from @bummi as well if you can consider that :)
 
@TinyGiant Firefox wins \o/
Hiya o/
 
Hi all, I stumbled on 2 curious answers, they appear NAA, but have been upvoted and seem to have survived a review-queue: stackoverflow.com/a/34303111/588079 & stackoverflow.com/a/35276645/588079 What should be done here?
 
user3956566
hi!!!
 
hi
 
@Idos to late I already voted before, after reading the corresponding meta post
 
8:10 AM
@GitaarLAB Don't consider the votes. Vote like you would regardless of them.
 
user3956566
@GitaarLAB I flagged those both as NAA.
 
And both are NAA yeah.
 
user3956566
particularly when they both said they were not answers
 
user3956566
hard to argue with the author of the post.
 
user3956566
I've turned my psychotic apple tree game into a blimp bombing game, reminiscent of WWII
 
user3956566
8:11 AM
hi Andras!!
 
@Tunaki Tunaki and @MsYvette: thanks for clearing that up (I usually don't have problems recognizing cruft).
 
Oh hi @Tunaki you always save my ass haha
 
user3956566
@GitaarLAB your most welcome here any time :D
 
user3956566
I am running a competition for what my SO name should be.. or whether it should stay the same
 
@MsYvette I know, thanks!
 
user3956566
8:12 AM
the prize is one smiley face and I use the name
 
user3956566
:D
 
user3956566
^^ that's the prize
 
@bummi what do you mean by voted before ? (It got deleted a few hours ago I persume)
 
@Idos Hmm? What did I do?
 
@MsYvette morning!:)
 
8:14 AM
@Tunaki you support my cause ;p
 
@MsYvette I can recognize you under current nick..
 
user3956566
@GitaarLAB thank you for your feedback and as a reward one complimentary smile :D
 
@GitaarLAB that's one funky identicon:)
 
Morning
 
@MsYvette Thanks, I'll use it right away: :)
 
8:15 AM
@kayess hey
 
@AndrasDeak Hey \o
 
@AndrasDeak hehe, yeah, I lost my original one, never figured out why..
 
@GitaarLAB I just read a similar thing yesterday
might or might not be the same thing
just save this one in case you like it more:P
@MsYvette how's your tree?
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak the tree looked more like a blimp
 
user3956566
So I now have a fleet of blimps
 
8:18 AM
@MsYvette spherical approximation?
sounds legit
 
user3956566
I kust need to figure out how to set a time delay on entering each next blimp
 
user3956566
yes with a little fight cage underneath
 
@AndrasDeak Good hint, thanks (also for the reference (somewhere in the back of my mind I 'remember' these images were based on ip (and one could reverse that))).
 
user3956566
I like it :D
 
:D sounds great
 
user3956566
8:19 AM
hehe :D
 
@Idos I don't participate in civil wars sorry :p
 
@kayess cv-ed
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak tha't hysterical and it looks like the cow that jumped over the moon
 
yup:)
especially with the caption
 
user3956566
8:22 AM
yeh, I missed that lol
 
user3956566
I'm bright you know O>O
 
@MsYvette course you are!;) And special;D
gotta go now, take care
 
user3956566
@AndrasDeak ah thanks! bye!!
 
@GitaarLAB roger
@MsYvette \o
 
I'm off as well, have a great day/night all! Till next time!
 
8:23 AM
@Tim \o
 
user3956566
@kayess \o
 
user3956566
@GitaarLAB \o
 
@kayess \O
 
@AndrasDeak \o
 
8:49 AM
@Gimby: How did I not see that typo o.O
 
Morning!
 
hi
 
@Ferrybig \o
 

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