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6:00 PM
Anyway, here am I discussing XORs when we have a nice Closey v2 \o/
 
@Tunaki #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-pedantic"
 
@JAL since it's OP, I'd be patient
 
JAL
I will be pissed if the OP of this question doesn't come back to award the bounty. Easiest 200 rep I would ever earn on SO.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Btw, replying with "yes" will execute the command for you.
 
Does anybody have an idea how I can suggest to an OP for whom I've been answering my butt off, to maybe spare an upvote? User for 2 years, 700+ rep, 40+ questions asked, and total number of votes ever is 20.
 
JAL
^ really tempted to flag that
 
@JAL if I click your images it doesn't start playing :(
 
JAL
@gunr2171 "-1 not interactive enough"
 
user4639281
 
6:05 PM
 
@TinyGiant wth
 
user4639281
Make obsolete features falsey, while still supporting them for backwards compatibility
 
Sam
Waffle
 
@TinyGiant Impressive
 
user4639281
Yeah, apparently other browsers have done the same thing to other features that were never in the spec.
 
6:08 PM
So wait
Woah, document.all == undefined is true
But not for ===
 
user4639281
Hmmm
 
user4639281
So it isn't strictly undefined, but loosely undefined
 
user4639281
Chrome must handle it during the type conversion process then.
 
user4639281
Yeah, during the conversion to boolean process, if it is document.all, it will be swapped with undefined. As === doesn't convert the type, it doesn't strictly equal undefined
 
6:13 PM
Hardcore backward compat
 
user4639281
That's from the Netscape days
 
Nothing but good things in those days....
 
user4639281
inorite?
 
The days of IE 5.5
 
user4639281
6:21 PM
What's hilarious is that that was not that long ago.
 
I think stackoverflow.com/q/35705578/5790901 has earned the right to be reopened.
 
@Spencer4134 Reading
I agree, voted
 
if we agree to close it as the proposed duplicate I'm in
 
user4639281
I agree to open/close
 
@Tunaki Hammer needed, see above
 
6:27 PM
@rene The proposed duplicate is for strings of the same length. The user needs something that works for different length strings
 
Check the last answer though. Anyone with +10k can affirm this?
 
@Spencer4134 Isn't the difference too small to be taken into account? And this answer seems to cover both cases
 
@Adriaan affirm what, sorry, link
 
@Drew see the question a few posts up Spencer41 linked. Last answer
 
@Kyll That is a really complex answer. The task can be accomplished with a for loop and two if statements.
 
6:30 PM
@Spencer4134 I agree
 
@Spencer4134 this seems to be a similar request: stackoverflow.com/q/34101044/578411
 
@Adriaan The last answer will cause issues if the two strings are different lengths.
 
Still, I'm not sure if having two questions covering such similar ground would be any useful
 
Are we reopening to close as a dupe?
 
@Spencer4134 I have no clue about Java, I just meant check the comment. It's claimed he deleted and reposted just to get out of the downvote
 
6:32 PM
@Adriaan there are many deleted answers around the same time ... like 5
 
@Drew then I guess that doesn't answer much unless it's from that same user
 
you mean look for a self-answer one ?
yes, user 460 deleted one
 
@Drew Frisbee's comment on this answer claims that user3437460 deleted and reposted the exact same thing
 
@NathanOliver If Tiny's gist is the answer, yes.
 
6:36 PM
The OP is saying that Tiny's didn't fully answer it. And from what I can see, all the proposed dupes are basically the same as that, or go into unnecessary things.
 
@Drew yes
@Drew no, typo
 
thx
 
@Drew so he did delete and repost the exact same thing? Thanks
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver Is this correct?
 
@Adriaan I am just offering up the del. I am off to other tomfoolery
 
user4639281
6:39 PM
First java code I've ever written.
 
@TinyGiant Are you? Oh my god, are you writing Java? Did you see the light?
 
@TinyGiant It looks okay.(haven't programmed java in 2 years).
 
@TinyGiant It looks good.
 
user4639281
@Tunaki No, just proving a point. It's pretty well JavaScript code with some stupid type thingies.
 
Java is just JS
 
6:40 PM
But made bad
 
user4639281
With stupid type thingies
 
Is SOCVR still working on or is that completed already?
 
user4639281
And blatant restrictions
 
I do not thnk the dupe is right as we are dealing with different string lengths.
 
with stupid type thingies
 
6:41 PM
So now we have two answers for this question, but aren't able to post them because it's on hold. I've had an answer saved for the past half hour.
 
And NullPointerExceptions in a language without pointer manipulations
 
@NathanOliver I agree 100%
 
I thought we finished
 
is buried.
The queue has the last corner-detection question that should not say alive
 
user4639281
@Nathan clarificated
 
6:42 PM
I need to write a new corners question
 
So...
HIT THE QUEUE
And when they're done and deleted, we call it a day
 
user4639281
@Tunaki The question should say "alive"? How's that work?
 
sd remove- not spam
 
@TinyGiant I was missing a "not"
 
As soon as we can reopen stackoverflow.com/q/35705578/5790901 it can get the answer it needs.
 
user4639281
6:44 PM
@Tunaki and a "t"?
 
Bargh to late to edit.
 
user4639281
Or did you actually mean "say alive"?
 
I hate you.
 
user4639281
lol
 
@Spencer4134 it is open
 
user4639281
6:45 PM
@Spencer, you answering or am I?
 
can we clean-up comments
 
@TinyGiant I did
 
maybe spencer, so we can own his soul in 2500 more rep
 
user4639281
@Spencer4134 Would you mind including an explanation of some sort?
 
@TinyGiant Ok working on it
 
6:47 PM
Inconsistent moderation PISSES ME OFF.
 
@Mogsdad ikr
 
Got two declined flags on duplicate answers.
 
user4639281
Like You need one loop which runs the length of the longest string, then check if the current index is less than the length of each string before outputting the character?
 
@Mogsdad They would not delete them?
 
user4639281
And that indentation hurts me
 
6:48 PM
what mogzie that stinks
 
@NathanOliver " flags should only be used to make moderators aware of content that requires their intervention "
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Did you say "pretty please with a cherry on top"? That always works.
 
I lost a flag on that once. Then I gave up NATO
 
this and this are duplicates of this.
 
maybe hold off on 1 for now
 
6:51 PM
@Mogsdad wth. a mod deleted them.
 
@Drew #1? Why?
 
by the time I have the image guys look at it ... the crew will kill it anyway
 
@NathanOliver Hadn't checked first. Normally I'd just let it slide, but 2 declines in a row.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad AND the mod posted a duplicate comment, plagiarized from you jkjk
 
@TinyGiant That would be funny!
 
6:53 PM
@Drew #1 looks like "resolved in a matter unlikely to help" really no?
 
ain't no rush now
 
user4639281
Well they did post a duplicate comment, but I'm pretty sure that comment was originally Martijn's
 
ah it's dead
 
RIP
 
@Mogsdad I don't get it. Why would you get declined flags if they get deleted by the mod. You can down vote and vote to delete as that is targeting the user and would be serial voting. this is totally a case for mods to since we can't do what needs to be done.
 
6:55 PM
@NathanOliver decline as in "you shouldn't have mod-flagged"
 
@NathanOliver flags can be declined before a moderator even sees the thread
or that
 
@TylerH mod flags?
 
if it's a mod flag then no, I thought you were referring to general flags
 
@Tunaki What should he have done?
 
user4639281
@Spencer4134 One final eensy weensy thing, "Hope this helps!" is just noise.
 
6:55 PM
@TinyGiant Ok I'll take it out :)
 
user4639281
Thanks :)
 
@NathanOliver mod-flag :D
That's what I would have done. And I have lots of helpful flags for that.
Ah I see.
They are literately copy-paste
 
It is what should be done. @Mogsdad I would bring it up on meta. It is not what should have been done.
 
Wait
 
user4639281
I would post on meta about that. We've been told in the past that we should use a custom flag in cases like this, if your custom flags are being declined for this, either we, or the mods, need better guidance.
 
6:57 PM
Exact copy-paste answers raise an automatic flag.
 
@TinyGiant in progress
 
Maybe that's why it was declined. As in "Heck I have 2 flags to handle now, the automatic was enough"
 
user4639281
@Tunaki That would be a really bad reason to decline a flag.
 
That is not very kind.
 
user4639281
That would be like declining 9 out of 10 NaA flags on a post, and marking the first as helpful.
 
6:58 PM
Ask @Drew. I think it happened to him as well, right?
 
I was afk so ask away
 
Declined flag on exact dupe answers.
The answers still being deleted.
 
I had a mod say a script picks it up. To me it was not an exact but a nuance text chg. So I got frustrated after 1 loss and split NATO
I don't play a game I can't win
@Tunaki in fact my new game is playing the roomba game. Works great.
 
I think this corner-detection can be reopened? stackoverflow.com/q/29123125/1743880
 
7:09 PM
it's not too broad? (tuna)
 
I'm hesitant.
@Mogsdad sincerely hope the answer isn't "there's an automatic flag"
 
@Mogsdad can you ping a mod like that?
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad One of those post had the canned comment from you, the other post had the canned comment from ChrisF
 
Ok, thx.
 
@gunr2171 The question is specific to polygons and the answer seems to suggest there's a good way to do it
 
user4639281
7:12 PM
Though you should tag your question as support.
 
@AndrasDeak afaik not. At least on SO itself you can't ping those who have not yet interacted with a post in any way
 
@Tunaki ok, sure. I'll reopen
 
@Adriaan but mods might be a special kind of beast, is why I'm asking
I've already posted the "who can you ping" canonical today here;)
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad and the only difference between the two comments is that ChrisF omitted the "vote to close"
 
@TinyGiant ...my own addition.
Otherwise, it's lifted from Martijn.
 
user4639281
7:14 PM
Your post says they are identical, so I was pointing out the difference.
 
Apart from that one, all the others that are closed are delete-worthy IMO. The starred message misses only one or 2 more.
 
user4639281
> As a regular user, as long as the answer is correct, then all you can do is leave a comment for the poster telling them that they should be flagging duplicate questions rather than answering.
 
user4639281
Apparently he thinks that because an auto flag is raised, flagging is invalid.
 
@TinyGiant Flag treatment shouldn't be a crap shoot affected by which mod looks at them.
4
 
JAL
7:22 PM
@Mogsdad word bro
 
JAL
And the NAA/VLQ/Spam debate continues!
 
@Mogsdad He, look at how mods handle garbage posts
One says "spam is okay", others "offensive is okay but I'll decline spam" others say "please flag NAA instead
 
@Tunaki damn it, maybe they're also humans!
 
7:24 PM
with wildly different concepts to begin with, see the election discussions:P
 
@TinyGiant Was searching for it, nice
 
user4639281
So based on the faq on meta, it is encouraged to flag the duplicated answer.
 
That's a nice flag @Drew. Even had "Thanks" in it :D
 
So why didn't Chris decline Community's fag instead, and keep that of Mogsdad? *looks for pitchfork*
 
JAL
NAA? looks like "I'm having this problem too"
 
user4639281
7:25 PM
@Mogsdad mind if I add in the canonical reference?
 
@JAL yeah it doesn't seem to add an answer
gives a hint for future answers, should be comment
 
@JAL Hmm border-line, but is better for a comment
 
@JAL looks NAA to me
 
Hey @Nathan the OP left your edits and rollbacked mine!
Did you give him $5 :p
 
7:27 PM
@Tunaki I'lll never tell ;) I have no idea why he kept rolling it back so I waited a little while and tried it again.
I also did it via the tag inline editing so maybe he wasn't notified of that
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad added the reference anyway
 
Hey see
automatic flag
 
user4639281
I love exposing inconsistencies.
 
user4639281
Mods don't seem to like responding to me....
 
nor me.
 
7:37 PM
@TinyGiant why do I picture you slamming your keyboard and yelling "OBJECTION!!"
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version a0a8cd7f on master, running for 2 hours, 2 minutes and 21 seconds (tracking latency 500ms).
 
@Tiny I don't understand. Where in the FAQ is stated "mod-flag"?
 
user4639281
> If you're spotting a duplicate answer to duplicate questions, flag or vote to close and then flag the answer on the duplicate question for removal (leave the other one alone).
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 That's a pretty accurate description of the events taking place.
 
7:39 PM
> Most copy-paste answers are automatically flagged for moderator attention, so there is no point in flagging fresh duplicate answers;
Wait I'm reading the updated version :D
 
Clearly we need an AI to handle flags. I suggest the name Skynet.
 
But still
> Any time you post answers which are exact duplicates of each other, the Community user will automatically raise a flag for moderator attention, in order to evaluate your answers based on the criteria we've outlined above. So please, before you get other users involved in your copy-pasting business, do the work yourself and you might be able to avoid bad situations in the first place.
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Yeah, martijn just edited out my evidence.
 
user4639281
I love how "let the user know why they shouldn't flag such content" becomes "have a meta post about every flag you handle"
 
Told you. Automatic flag.
 
7:50 PM
> If you are having a problem you should tell us. We are not mind readers. well some of us may be but if we made that public they would come for us.
 
> Back when the 10k tools were active and displayed duplicate posts that were flagged for this, we did have a number of people who tried to farm helpful flags by piggybacking flags on these
Ha, I never thought of that
 
5 minutes
 
Waffles
 
hope you all are registered with closey
 
@clo ping reviewers EVENT!
 
7:55 PM
@rene No one has a completed review session in the last 7 days
 
...
 
ha, it works
 
slackers!
 
@AndrasDeak I don't know to which you refer
 
I'm do you let me use closey?
 
7:56 PM
request permission to reviewer
 
@AlexanderO'Mara as a closey ping
 
@Closey request permission to reviewer
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I've created request #4 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
> Some non-exact trick the system get declined saying our script picks it up. Even when it doesn't.
 
@Closey approve request 4
 
7:56 PM
@gunr2171 That request has already been handled.
@gunr2171 @AlexanderO'Mara has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
request permission to reviewer
 
51 secs ago, by gunr2171
@AlexanderO'Mara as a closey ping
 
@Closey request permission to reviewer
 
@AndrasDeak Some people trick the system with text changes for the sole purpose of having the sacred script not pick it up
 
@PetterFriberg I've created request #5 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
7:57 PM
@Closey approve request 5
 
@gunr2171 @PetterFriberg has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
@Drew ah, I see
I just couldn't make sense of the syntax in your sentence
 
so the good news is with this new system, you don't need an RO to be around to add users
 
@AndrasDeak and then we are right back to meta everytime: i.imgur.com/PdZnNy5.jpg
 
@Drew oh yeah I remember that one
 

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