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6:00 PM
By the way @Magisch, if you encounter a post I flagged (that is, where you notice a comment from me) and don't agree, feel free to tell me.
 
In india its even worse
"You know HTML? a bit? Great, you're a software dev now"
My interview for my apprenticeship was also pretty pathethic "So you like computer stuffz?" "Yes" "Thats great, when can you start?"
 
@Magisch "Go make this J2E website"
 
I got a 40% raise 3 weeks into my job because my boss was scared that another company would poach me since they've done that to their last 3 apprentices
job market in germany man
Im not even good at programming yet
 
uh, what's going on?
 
hello \o I'm back
 
6:06 PM
Smokey should say "Deleted post". Just for the fun.
Plop @toskv o/
 
@Magisch is this your bot?
 
glad to be of service @Drew :)
 
@gunr2171 no
 
Wait yeah that's not SD
 
You can command him though if you ask nicely to be put on the list
 
6:06 PM
thx @toskv funny how that works out
 
bots in this room need to be cleared by the RO team first
 
Who's Sally?
 
if you have more questions to look at I'd gladly do it :) make me JS expert this time? :P
 
I thought Sally was a real Math person
not a bot
 
@Sally is this a bot account or are you running bot code?
 
6:08 PM
Looks like owned by NormalHuman
 
@Drew going by the deleted messages, that looks like it's running SD code
 
2k7 for a bot account would be impressive
 
ah
 
wait
thats not SD?
lawl
 
!!/help
 
user3717023
6:08 PM
@gunr2171 I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
KICK TIME
 
@SmokeDetector alive?
 
!!/alive
 
user3717023
@Tunaki Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
D:
D: D: D: Where's Smokey?!
 
6:09 PM
Maybe smokey is on vacation and sally has taken over for now
 
I thought you kicked Sally @gunr2171?
 
@Undo @ProgramFOX we're having some confusions with SD bot accounts
@Tunaki I did, for a minute
 
@toskv perhaps get a coke for 10 minutes
 
and then it responded
 
I'm having dinner right now.. a coke right after :) I'll enjoy a futurama episode in the meantime
see you around \o
 
6:10 PM
Bon appétit!
 
come back sometime when things are normal.
 
pp_
nice product placement
 
real Smokey is dead
 
oh
are you using Sally as a replacement?
 
yeah
 
6:11 PM
ok, hum...
 
Hey @ProgramFOX!!!
 
hey @PraveenKumar
 
How have you been?
 
@PraveenKumar Well, it's Sally running it from his account :P
fine
 
@ProgramFOX I came to know you are the founder of all Bots! :P
Oh Hi Sally.
 
6:13 PM
Hmm, not really of all bots :P
 
!!/alive
 
user3717023
@gunr2171 Kinda sorta
 
ok, we're good now
 
Sam
~ you didn't see anything ~
 
@AlexanderO'Mara if one of you JS guys wants to steer @toskv in a certain direction or a RO wants to show the listing page for reviews (outside of userscripts or whatever) that would be great
We poached him accidentally and he did a Java batch for us
 
6:17 PM
How do you it is the real ProgramFOX talking? Maybe he got hacked, Sally too and we're being invaded.
 
Well I shouldn't say accidentally. But yeah
 
I did a bubu :)
 
I mean I canvas and recruit people no matter how they get here
 
Fact: ProgramFOX isn't talking anymore, meaning he knows I'm on to him, currently SSHint into his computer.
 
!!/alive
 
user3717023
6:22 PM
@PraveenKumar Kinda sorta
 
Sally???
Where's SD?
 
@PraveenKumar normal SD is down, replaced by this account
 
LoL... sd commands are accepted.
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 mins ago, by Sally
^ started my instance while the main is down
 
@gunr2171 Omg!!! What happened to SD? And who's Sally BTW? Suddenly?
 
6:23 PM
no idea and no idea
 
@gunr2171 And you were talking to Sally in that room? Is that a bot or real person there?
 
Don't trust them. Trust no-one. The truth is out there.
 
@Tunaki :D :D
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by gunr2171
@Sally, hi. I'm one of the room owners in SOCVR. While this won't happen much, can you give us a heads up when the user account is going to change (like from Smoke Detector to Sally)? Lessens the confusion and avoids kicks. Thanks!
 
@PraveenKumar someone is just using their personal account rather than a dedicated bot account
 
@gunr2171 Okie...
And last question... Generally we used to give comments to SD like this: sd remove- edited by gunr. Does SD really understand them or?
 
6:25 PM
I don't know
 
@gunr2171 LoL... ???
Can @Sam explain this?
 
user3717023
@PraveenKumar No, it is interpreted as a sequence of commands: "remove-" for most recent post", "edited" for the second most recent, etc.
 
user3717023
Of course, there are no commands "edited", "by", and "gunr", so those are ignored.
 
@Sally Oh...
Coz once I was like shouted by @Tushar since he edited it, and I gave SD the command.
 
user3717023
6:28 PM
(And, sorry about the confusion earlier, I didn't really think of this room when starting an instance of SD under my credentials.)
 
@cybermonkey Ah Joke Fail.
 
Don't trust Sally I said, everyone is a fake, the world is a fake right now. I'm trying to restore balance
 
@Sally LoL... Okay...
@Tunaki Ha ha... Tuna.. What happened to you suddenly?
 
@Tunaki 'Trust Sally' they said, 'It would be fun' they said
 
@gunr2171 And Tuna gets offended.
 
6:30 PM
@toskv I am in the campaigns room as it gets chatty in here
 
Okay. Balance restored. You should have seen a meteorite pass by, don't mind it, it's a side-effect.
 
@Tunaki I saw it... Wow...
 
user3717023
7:02 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: (gone) by Yaw Boakye-Yiadom on stackoverflow.com ‌
 
After inspecting the link, I've determined the link is spam, as the OP wrote it.
 
What happened to the real SD?
 
Burned?
 
Did SD rage quit from all the VLQ questions :P
 
7:10 PM
@Rizier123 We're currently in a parallel universe where SmokeDetector was never created but Sally was instead. According to my calculations, everything should go back to normal in 6 to 8 weeks.
 
7:28 PM
@gunr2171 When someone cough accidentally unplugs smokey cough sometimes other charcoalers pick it up.
A few folks have keys to the 'real' account; I really should give @Sally those keys too.
 
@FarazDurrani Glad you could join us!
As I said on my previous comments, upvote on a question means that the question is of good quality and helpful.
That question is terrible since, actually, there is no question in it.
 
!!/alive
 
@PraveenKumar ... did I miss something?
 
Yes you did! :P Smokey is back!!!
 
Okay, does someone have a good link on when answers should be upvoted?
 
A better one. Because I have a user that think they can upvote anything as long as they find it useful. Even if it is totally unrelated to the question.
 
@Tunaki Maybe the how to answer link
@Tunaki Technically hes not wrong upvoting the answer as per the scope defined in the help center
 
Hence my question.
 
but everyone who spent more then 5 minutes on this sites knows why it shouldnt be
Im not sure if it qualifies for VLQ deletion either
its an attempt at an answer to a (wrongly) percieved question
its just a mess-mess scenario.
 
7:40 PM
@pp_ Looks more like NAA to me
"Your question is dumb, use this tutorial to avoid having to ask it" doesn't look like an answer to me.
 
@Tunaki Its closed now, answers at -1 and -2
 
pp_
@Magisch And what about the question? Too broad?
 
@pp_ I went with HoverCraft full of eel's custom reason
although that one is maybe a little condescending
too broad or no MCVE either works
Why is so full of trash
not even is close to that level
 
I have to say, it's my first time in chat room, but it's so satisfying to see Stack Overflow being cleaned in realtime.
 
@pp_ Both answers to that question were deleted
 
pp_
7:48 PM
@Magisch I know, but I think the one with the solution was deleted by its author.
 
@pp_ Yeah
that one wasn't VLQ or NAA
it was an answer, even a correct one. Just in poor taste
I kinda feel bad for this user: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317262/…
He was serially downvoted and that triggered a question ban on him so he brought it to meta and because his Qs arent very good due to the meta effect hes now deep in the question ban
 
Hello again @FarazDurrani! :)
 
hello xD
I have no question and I understood to not upvote questions that are not helpful
but I will keep on upvoting answers which are 'somewhat' helpful
as per rules of course xD
 
helpful is also seen as a way of saying: this answer is good, clear and answers the problem at hand.
Brevity is welcomed, you can do very good answers that are brief
But, in this case, the part of "actually answering the question" isn't there. You are interpreting the question in one way which is may be different than what the OP wanted
 
yeah because "actually answering the question" is the most helpful
 
7:57 PM
Yep. And here, the OP is saying in a comment "I need a variable such as double time = System.currenttimemillis()".
I don't think an answer that prints (incorrectly) the current date is helpful for that
 
ok i got it xD
removing the upvote
 
I don't think you will be able to since votes are locked 5 minutes after you made them.
 
no not removing the upvote because the OP clarified the question late
I assumed the same thing that he wants to get the current time and print it
 
That's the problem. You shouldn't assume :).
 
you also assumed when you downvoted the question
he did ask a specific question
didn't he
 
8:02 PM
Honestly, I don't see it.
 
You assumed that there is no question when there was (though unclear, i admit)
is my answer correct: double d = System.currenttimemillis().doubleValue();
 
It wouldn't compile. System.currentTimeMillis returns a long. You can't call doubleValue() on that.
 
ok let me fix it
 
10K helpful flags :) i.stack.imgur.com/EjW7F.png
4
 
Now I know why you flag questions
 
8:11 PM
Ah, no, it's unrelated actually.
 
Long l = System.currentTimeMillis(); double d = l.doubleValue();
thats the correct answer
but that makes sense to me :P
 
double d = System.currentTimeMillis(); would work fine also ;). Now, what is the question? :D
 
@Tunaki \o/
 
"I need a variable such as double time = System.currenttimemillis()." That was the question
 
@Tunaki next stop: 100k
 
8:14 PM
lol you were bringing my attention to that same line
 
You're a serial flaggist now Tunaki :)
 
pp_
10 million helpful flags: i.imgur.com/WfjUbGx.png
 
Nice photoshop. Or is it Paint? :p
 
@pp_ I can see the pixel borders. 3/10 an attempt was made
 
pp_
@Magisch Pixel borders?
 
8:17 PM
I leave now thankyou for your time bye bye take care
 
bye
 
What really happens when you have a lot of flags: i.stack.imgur.com/ATttU.png
 
one-box alert
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You need to cast some more votes.
 
@NisseEngström Yeah, I do.
 
pp_
8:21 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara Ok, I thought it works like reputation, where 100,000 is displayed as 100k.
 
@pp_ It might, I don't know. I just injected a long string into the DOM.
 
pp_
I did the same.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I only have about a thousand votes, but I'm a slouch.
 
@Tunaki CONGRATS, there can be only one!!
 
8:38 PM
!!/alive
@gunr2171 Just so you know, smokey is running again under the Sally account, chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/27718590#27718590
 
!!/alive
 
user3717023
@AlexanderO'Mara You doubt me?
 
@Ferrybig ok, thanks
 
8:54 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara gone.
 
!!/alive
 
@Ferrybig You doubt me?
 
can someone write a script to summarize all important events in the room while someone is afk? :P
 
@SmokeDetector I do. There was a post just right there Smokey that only contained a single letter repeated at least 200 times and you missed it.
Or maybe you had a camera on the guys room because when his cat left the keyboard, he edited and it turned into a boring NAA
 
@Tunaki Don't mix it up with your user profile :P
 
9:03 PM
@Tunaki Perfectly on time. We'll celebrate one day around a bottle of Chinon... J'en ai quelques-unes de garde dans la cave =)
 
@Kyll Ah génial :) !
 
The answer posted on the custom close reason spam warning is weird
@Tunaki Tu n'as rien contre le rouge?
 
@Kyll Rien du tout. Petite préférence pour le blanc mais j'adore aussi :).
 
... Je peux aussi trouver un bon Anjou
 
au contraire!
 
9:10 PM
@KirkBeard, hi.. yeah we are running hard...
 
9:20 PM
Caching is almost like a magic trick: stackoverflow.com/q/35529155/3933332
 
@Rizier123 Except the trick is executed by a necromancer
 
9:37 PM
@AlexanderStepaniuk if you are around we could use a few votes over in campaigns
 
Depends on what you mean by "important". Here's one:
return NULL;
 
I bought a car. Now it doesn't start. — Parto 3 hours ago
^ essentially most questions on .... anywhere
 
9:56 PM
Recruiting associates to rampage my ISP's offices. i.imgur.com/9qosKie.png
 
@Kyll what they did not do?
 
@Braiam Welp, this kind of issue arises regularly. Loves to happen when I'm playing.
 
is imagining a guy laughing when Kyll plays WoW on his ISP's office
 
Hello @mech o/
 
Howdy @Tunaki
 
10:10 PM
Room, meet mech, Mech meet room. I've noticed you left a couple of comments to posts that were not an answer and that's really appreciated :D
 
Hello, room. Thanks! I ran out of flags earlier today (I think I'm up to 16/day), so I've resorted to downvoting + commenting instead. Glad it still helps.
 
It helps a lot yeah!
 
Welcome @mech
 
There's a variety of things going on in this chat room (you can start by reading the FAQ) but if you want to help making Stack Overflow a better place, you're at the right address :)
 
We're the sewage treatment plant of SO
3
 
10:25 PM
I think I'm getting it, hah. Just finished reading the FAQ. I'm going to stick around and lurk/read, though I'm still a few days away from 1k rep, and a while from 3k. Hopefully I can contribute meaningfully soon-ish :D
 
You can always flag ahead in the tags we're burninating or that are our focus in an event: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/236526/…
 
I'm sure you'll be at 3k in no time :).
 
I hope so, hah. Interesting, @rene, bookmarking that for future use.
 
10:53 PM
Plop @mech =D
 
Plop?
 
Don't mind him, he's French you know.
 
inhales deeply
 
Those French are weird.
 
@mech Right now it means "Well met! I'm not going to eat you today"
The day here ends in 5 minutes. That's your advance.
 
10:55 PM
Ohhh. I would know, I'm from near the French-Spanish border, so I've seen plenty of française weirdness :P
@Kyll You eat people? D:
 
You do? Andorre?
 
I blame every single one of my actions at Spain border on Sangria
 
Northern Catalonia, though I've spent most of my life in either Barcelona or the States
 
(by the way, I'm French also)
 
(like it isn't obvious by the way we're stand so far above the rest of the world)
 
10:58 PM
(Figured as much; your spelling of Andorra was deeply suspicious)
 
and even closer to the Spanish border than Kyll
 
@Tunaki Always expect the Spanish border! wait
 
@mech Ha. Right. Nice. lol
Hum, can someone translate that into English for me? stackoverflow.com/a/35530036/1743880 It's technically written in English.
Ha that's right I'm out of votes.........
 
"Technically English" is an extremely generous descriptor there.
 
@Tunaki This unclosed parenthesis is what bothers me most
 
11:06 PM
Haaa. It makes much more sense now. That was it.
 
Sam
@Magisch Yes, yes and yes.
I should pin that
Also, hiya.
 
@Tunaki Damn, the posts from this user are a mess. Needs to step by the [help]...
Plop Sam!
 
Sam
o/
 
Hiya o/
 
@Sam No Bloops, no planes, no fish. -(1 to power Infinity)!
 
11:13 PM
@mech, you've just met SmokeDetector, also called Smokey. It's a bot that detects automatically spam and offensive content.
 
Sam
@Kyll Meh, I'm not in a creative mood atm. :p
 
@Tunaki Looks handy.
 
@mech Can also do this:
!!/coffee
 
@Kyll brews coffee for @Kyll
 
pp_
I love it when I suggest an edit, then a moderator makes the same exact edit before my edit is accepted and then my edit is declined.
!!/coffee
 
11:19 PM
@pp_ brews coffee for @pp_
 
@pp_ That's nothing. It's worse when a >2k makes a bad edit that rejects your good one.
 
@Sam you're a warlord of documentation, right?
 
@user1803551 Wait, Documentation is happening? I thought SO forgot about it
 
@Kyll nope, i got my beta invite a week ago and today i went to check it out
 
Dang, didn't get an invite
 
11:21 PM
did you ask? register?
 
Back then yes
 
which tags did you write you want to work on?
 
lemme check the situation there. maybe it's crowded enough
@Kyll js is not "supported" yet. they are just not looking for it (yet, i guess)
 
:'(
 
11:25 PM
closest i can find for you is Redis
which is not really close
 
Never worked on it
 
11:36 PM
Off to me bed. Bonne nuit!
 
Bonne nuit !
 
Sam
@user1803551 Yes, in fact, one of the first.
 
@Tushar Thanks :D
And Plop!
Hmm...Kyll is saying Bonne nuit...
 
Sam
@Kyll cya
 
@Sam tell that to the closey v2 spec that you wrote
 
Sam
11:42 PM
Hey Kevin
:p
 
@Sam what tag(s) you on?
 
Sam
C# and .Net
 
Hiya Kev o/
 
Sam
Though I haven't contributed much recently.
 
\o/
 
11:46 PM
@tunaki, I need a random number generator, probably returning the number four.
 
@Drew You got it: xkcd.com/221
4
 
Sam
@gunr2171 We all know you're the warlord in that project. ;)
 
woot
 
@user1803551 I am out trying to close stuff and I stumbled into this too funny
(under the Answer)
 
11:52 PM
Is this an answer? The answerer says it's just a comment, but looks like it's also a solution: stackoverflow.com/a/35530496/5299236
 
@Drew LOL
 
@KevinGuan I'd leave it, and edit out the first section that says it's a comment
fine enough on it's own
 
Oh god I have 1 flag remaining. 7 minutes to cast it.
 
@Drew hey, was worth a shot!
 
@gunr2171 Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
11:54 PM
And voilà.
 
Oh that's right, you can play around those mod tools now.
 
Yeah, I like the New Answers to Questions More Than 30 Days Old list.
 
Join the club \o/
You'll be frightened at the number of NAA/VLQ you encounter
 
lol
 

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