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12:00 AM
@pp_ the suggested edit to that question might render your close-votes moot.
 
pp_
@WaiHaLee I don't have any close votes :)
 
we are working on that :P
 
pp_
But yeah it was kinda pointless
 
@pp_ not even now? Just turned midnight.
 
The rep @WaiHaLee, the rep :)
 
pp_
12:02 AM
I'm a low-rep loser.
 
@pp_ Ah - I see. As I said earlier, it's late where I am (now even later). Sorry for the confusion.
 
Well. The big party didn't last long.
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg Despite what @Kyll said, it wasn't so much rejected as it was put on hold until the next major version. I've been rewriting the entire thing, so it won't make much sense to make changes to the existing version. Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of time to do that recently.
 
Oh, hi @Tiny o/ Joining for the party I see.
 
user4639281
Didn't know we were having one.
 
12:14 AM
Is it called a party when there's only 1 person in it?
 
user4639281
Depends on the number of imaginary friends in attendance.
 
Mmmmh. Well with that, I'll leave you handle that party, shouldn't be too difficult. Cya o/
 
user4639281
cya o/
 
user4639281
@rene you forgot the hash-tag. (#Pr0blamSolved)
 
:D
 
12:21 AM
yo tg hangin in there ?
 
user4639281
Yeah, gonna be a service manager at a local motorsports dealership.
 
user4639281
They pay more, and I don't have to work outside, or get covered in slime and dirt.
 
user4639281
Also, after three months, I get a motorcycle.
 
user4639281
I would have been online more recently, but my computer crashed and the thumbdrive that I need to fix it had something else on it.
 
I hope it was something useful?
 
user4639281
12:23 AM
The same thing, but for a 32bit computer.
 
@TinyGiant this is maybe a stupid question but you do have a license to drive such thing?
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
user4639281
Just not currently a license to drive a four wheeled vehicle. Blame the government's lack of investigative prowess.
 
Sam
Hey Tiny
 
user4639281
o/
 
12:30 AM
If you guys don't mind I call it a night
 
user4639281
Night o/
 
Sam
Cya later o/
 
what close reason do we prefer to use for "i didnt try this at all, does it work?" stackoverflow.com/questions/35517595/grunt-libsass-and-compass
 
user4639281
@pp_ Should be closed as too broad, it isn't a debugging question. I rolled back the code removal edit.
 
pp_
@TinyGiant The answer is NAA, too.
 
user4639281
Yes, it is. However, we don't do NaA or VLQ flag requests in here. One is the same as many with those flags.
 
user3956566
@user1803551 oooh ok
 
pp_
12:50 AM
@TinyGiant I see it very often but good to know.
 
user4639281
You can ask if something is NaA or VLQ, but we don't like it if you're requesting that others flag it as such.
 
user4639281
Spam / offensive flag requests are fine.
 
pp_
Is this different for questions?
 
user4639281
You can request close votes on questions
 
user4639281
No up or down votes, but close votes and delete votes are ok
 
user4639281
12:53 AM
If you haven't yet, I recommend reading our FAQ
 
pp_
I almost exclusively see close vote requests with flag recommendations.
 
user4639281
Yeah totally, close vote requests are entirely on-topic, but subject to their own limitations as stated in our FAQ.
 
user4639281
However, we don't like NaA or VLQ flag requests. Spam or offensive flag requests are allowed, because a large number of them will auto-delete a post. Multiple NaA and VLQ flags mean nothing to a moderator.
 
pp_
I meant recommendations like (unclear | too broad | lib req).
 
user4639281
@cimmanon I would go either Too Broad, Unclear, or the debugging reason as a lack of a clear problem statement.
 
user4639281
12:58 AM
@pp_ If you're requesting close votes on a question it is actually required that you include a valid close reason which you believe is applicable to the post, though you can also ask if a question is closeable and for an applicable close reason.
 
Morning everyone!
 
user4639281
Morning!
 
Sam
Morning!
 
user4639281
 
@Sam Oh, can you eat your hat now?
 
user4639281
12:59 AM
Oh hey, you got 10k
 
user4639281
Didn't beat me though :P
 
pp_
Ok but if NAA flags mean nothing to moderators and I shouldn't post them here, won't they go by unnoticed in some cases?
 
@TinyGiant lol
mod tools are so useful!
 
user4639281
Multiple NaA flags mean no more than one NaA flag. Doesn't mean that they mean nothing at all.
 
Sam
@KevinGuan I thought there was a 2 month deadline? :p
 
1:02 AM
Yay!
 
Sam
And with that, night!
 
night!
What's this person talking about? stackoverflow.com/a/35517813/5299236
 
pp_
@TinyGiant He or she edited the question again.
 
@KevinGuan they tried the answers given but it didnt work for them (i think)
 
@cimmanon I think so, flagged as NAA.
 
user4639281
1:09 AM
@pp_ Rolled back and commented, an auto flag has now been raised. A moderator may lock the post at their discretion.
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Nope, it is an attempted answer.
 
@TinyGiant Hmm...so an answer which's You can use this tool to foo the bar, and it's allowed if the question isn't off-topic right?
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Yep
 
user4639281
But, that is inconsequential in that case because the attempted answer is here:
 
Okay
 
user4639281
1:11 AM
> To do this you need a JDBC Connection and/or driver that supports logging the sql at a low level.
 
user4639281
If you ignore the tool recommendation, it is still an attempted answer.
 
@TinyGiant If the answer is just one-line like that, shouldn't it better be a comment?
 
user4639281
It could exist as a comment, but it is also an attempted answer.
 
Then, is this NAA because it's just linked to a blog post? stackoverflow.com/a/2382596/5299236
Wait, it's the documention...
 
user4639281
@KevinGuan Nope, even without the link it is still referencing a part of MySQL that should be used.
 
1:18 AM
Ah, just realized that. Ready for a declined flag.
 
user3956566
@user1803551 done
 
user4639281
And I'm out for the night. Have fun everyone!
 
Night!
 
1:41 AM
@rene don't know what the edit toolkit is. i was just quickly switching tags. didn't edit anything else in these questions
 
1:54 AM
@user1803551 rene means our Stack Exchange Editor Toolkit I think, which's very simple to use and useful.
 
2:12 AM
@KevinGuan it's depracated :P should i used the magic editor instead?
 
does anyone know the timeframe backwards one can still ping someone from chat with :nnnnn ?
 
@user1803551 Hmm...about that, it adds a button in the edit toolbar. When you click it, it auto removes some useless content of a post. And I'd suggest you try it out.
 
2:34 AM
@KevinGuan which of them, the old one or the new one?
 
2:49 AM
@user1803551 Are there two versions of the Magic Editor? However, the one I'm using is: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/…
 
ah, it's very nice!
 
Glad that you like it :D
 
3:09 AM
definitely not a shining example of anything we want
 
3:30 AM
@user1803551 did you see the java question with 1900 views today ?
 
@Drew no
 
I was flying thru a bot hold on
 
@Drew i want to cry. this must have been answered already. it's like in the beginner's tutorial
the accepted answer is not even completely correct. waaaaaa
 
@JarrodRoberson Here is an result of how we preserve the cv3 and cv4 votes everyday in ... by managing them well. Otherwise they age away like the cv1 and 2 ... we usher them on to their grave thru batches and not the close vote queue
Note, we lost none. What happened there was the script ran to age away. But it did not affect our pool.
Technically they all age away or can. We just don't let it happen.
@user1803551 it may make you cry, but be happy for @pp_ cuz today he wrote the infinity loop for some points. And we like him :P
 
3:46 AM
@Drew wrote the infinity loop?
 
pp_
Drew told me no one cares about answers to duplicates, so that's what I do now.
And the duplicates didn't really explain it.
 
Maybe that is taken out of context, maybe not. But yeah
 
pp_
Just maybe.
 
If some Golds that never post to this room things to close or even vote to close ... answer dupes ... then I say let the kid go to town for a while
 
pp_
3:50 AM
But it's cool that I have my first follower now!
 
who me ?
I look at your stuff constantly.
 
pp_
Yes. I'm on the road to fame.
 
@PP_ is it the Q i linked?
 
pp_
Q ???
 
pp_
3:52 AM
Yep.
 
Q = question
 
pp_
Like in "Plz give me an A to my Q"?
 
look two links up. Above where it says Yep.
 
pp_
I also scored a 2-day review ban and a 7-day ban right after that.
 
ban for what?
 
pp_
3:55 AM
For failing too many test reviews.
 
pp_
After the 2-day ban I finally got it, but than it needs just one more fail and you receive another 7-day.
 
Think of all infinite loops you can do now
 
pp_
Infinite?
 
waffle
 
3:58 AM
@pp_ i can probably find some questions for yo to answer that aren't duplicates in the basic java area and feed them to you. i myself have had enough of the trivialities
 
pp_
No, I mean I can do infinite infinite loops.
 
T J
guys, is this stackoverflow.com/a/35480439/2333214 an answer..? .~.
 
yes it is an answer imo
 
pp_
All answers are answers.
 
he messed it up halfway but yeah
 
T J
4:04 AM
hmm okay
 
if the guy had a rep of 25 it would be real suspect (meaning people might think Oh he cannot comment). Just because he posed a question halfway thru shouldn't have that deleted
I am not saying it shouldn't have been a comment. But the guy is after some green.
 
venting complete!
 
T J
ah mornings btw
 
T J
so i went ahead to checkout that girl profile
just to find out its a chatbot :/
damn praveen >.<
 
4:11 AM
stalking on SO? serves you right :)
 
T J
:D
 
4:31 AM
ah too late Nathan. Answer snuck in
 
4:46 AM
as if:
I'm currently designing a prototype for an app, this is why I am using the free hosting site 000webhost.com since the database there will only have demonstrative purposes. However, I do need this functionality as it is key for the app. Could you please check if they would allow me to do this? The site runs cPanel (i just make use of phpmyadmin and the filesystem to store my php scripts, everything else is not familiar for me) And I would appreciate further detail on how to write the CRON script — mankee 2 hours ago
The sense of entitlement and servitude
 
@Drew "000webhost.com" says it all in my experience.
 
pp_
@Drew Isn't his newest question very similar?
I love the wording btw.
 
I have a great article about 000web let me find it.
 
@Drew I look forward to it!
 
@AlexanderO'Mara article and search on: Doesn’t look too bad? Let’s take a look at the URL:
 
5:08 AM
@Drew I wish I could say I didn't see stuff like that all the time.
 
I guess this answers the question... stackoverflow.com/a/35519252/2308683
 
^^^^ OP edited. Ignore
Hey TJ
 
@Tushar No OP didn't I just indented the already existing code
There is still no MVCE
 
@cricket_007 aah. Right. No HTML, and function calls
 
5:23 AM
The more I visit this room, the more confident I become that @Drew and @Tushar are bots :P
 
@TheLostMind explain?
 
@cricket_007 - They are always here (humans need sleep :P)
bots dont
 
@TheLostMind Sorry, I didn't understand you. :P
 
@Tushar - Sleep
 
Sleep walking
 
5:25 AM
:P
 
I have 7 open projects and well this is the epicenter of it
 
Open source them all! Get some code monkeys on it! @Drew
 
My code monkeys are all here sifting through this rubbish :P
 
rubbish O00
 
@TheLostMind Are you from Maharashtra? Guessing from surname
 
T J
5:42 AM
I have been banned from flagging for flagging this stackoverflow.com/a/35480439/2333214 and stackoverflow.com/a/11435417/2333214 as NAA and using a custom flag on this stackoverflow.com/q/35423874/2333214 spam post in the last week
even though there are lots of helpful flags @_____@
 
@Tushar - My grandparents are from that place :)
I see you are in that place right now :)
 
T J
I actually forgot the fact that there's a flag -> spam option ever since I got close vote priviledge :/
 
yep well bans wear off
 
5:57 AM
Who does this guy think he is? stackoverflow.com/questions/35519612/…
 
@cricket_007 - Its a pity to see that he has 4K rep
 
@TheLostMind So true
And thanks @TJ
 
T J
I'm trying to concentrate on my first helloWorld github project and then there are people demanding fast answers and people posting answers with no clue.. ah ...
 
@TJ What about github?
You pull, make some changes, commit, and push
Not that difficult
 
T J
@cricket_007 So far I've only used the projects and submitted issues..! now thinking of starting contributing so going through the getting started thingies so that I don't disappoint anyone by breaking rules or making stupid mistakes ^_^
 
6:11 AM
@TJ As long as you don't get trigger-happy with rebasing and overwritting the commit history, git is very forgiving with undo-ing things
 
6:33 AM
any HTML guy/girl here?
 
T J
me
no, i'm not here
 
can you explain me <p align="left"> vs <p style="text-align:left">? i know that the first one is older. what happens is both are present?
 
The align attribute of <p> is not supported in HTML5
@user1803551 So, to answer your question, the CSS is always used
 
i'm talking prior to html 5
 
@user1803551 Possible duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/2540249/…
XD
 
6:45 AM
but there is no CSS
(i don't really know what's going on)
 
The style attribute is an inline CSS
 
ahhh, that explains it. so i can have CSS without actually having a CSS file?
 
Sure can. You can also have a <style> tag within the <head> of the HTML to include the CSS directly within the file without the need for a separate CSS file
 
cool, thanks. that CSS without a file was confusing me
 
T J
7:00 AM
but don't use inline style
pretend it doesn't exist
 
yeah, thanks. i'm just trying to understand something in small scale modifications
 
T J
7:14 AM
it has an upvote and 3 favorites .~.
 
@TJ One of the favorites is mine, I tend to bookmark some garbage for future reference.
 
T J
lol
@AlexanderO'Mara when crap gets deleted, it'll be automatically removed from our favourites list, rght?
 
@TJ No actually, it preserves the link.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:40 AM
Plop!
 
 
1 hour later…
9:51 AM
@Tushar gone.
 
10:04 AM
Morning ...
 
@rene o/
 
Why isn't that post gone soon?
 
Can I call up those guys and scare the shit out of them?
 
Because someone is leaving offensive comments?
 
10:07 AM
@rene Ha ha...
@rene 2min gone
 
yeah, but it was worth the try
 
He he...
 
@TinyGiant The main tag in review requests thing? Sorry, I was pretty sure it got rejected
Plop!
 
Plop!
 
Yay got a Meta "Nice question" \o/
 
10:14 AM
Très jolie
 
Merci :)
 
baguette
 
Café et gaufres!
 
10:34 AM
c'est gratuit!
 
Stroopwafel!
Anyone here with oracle knowledge? The rdbms I'm talking about.
 
10:52 AM
sd commented
 
@PraveenKumar take a look to the question
 
@bummi ^
 
;)
 
11:20 AM
1. Answer a typo question. http://stackoverflow.com/a/35522404/3853934
2. Get <s>2</s> 3 upvotes.
3. ???
4. Profit!
The more weird thing though is that the question itself got 1 upvote. I would downvote it and VTC as typo, but I run out of both up/downvotes and closevotes.
Why markdown doesn't work on multiline chat messages?
 
@Gothdo It's a "feature": the idea being we don't want code to get accidentally interpreted as markdown.
 
Wow, there's a lot of homework rubbish due in Monday morning:((
 
@Gothdo And now it looks like I closed it as a dup. I don't see how the dup is particularly useful.
 
@NisseEngström You're right, I don't see any note about missing brackets in that question.
 
Well you can ask @Rizier123 to comment on that ....
 
11:34 AM
That's right close...
It explains all the errors and possible cause of the errors too.
That question should be deleted soon.
 
@PraveenKumar No, it doesn't explain the case with a missing bracket.
 
The dupe has many advises how to debug such an error and explains exactly how to read such an error message (Here especially in the first answer under "Solving syntax errors": If { code blocks } are incorrectly closed ...). So I think that should be enough information for OP to exactly see where the problem is and I think it's more helpful that way than it would be if it gets closed as a typo.
 
@PraveenKumar you're going to take away his 3 upvotes :P
 
Wups, copied the wrong paragraph; I meant this one: Unbalanced ( parentheses ). Count them in the reported line. Are there an equal number of them?
 
@user1803551 That would anyway go to -45 soon. But just saying, we are not meant to answer such LQ posts.
 
11:47 AM
@Rizier123 can you consider dupe hammering this question with this target
 
@Rizier123 Now that the OP has understood the problem and it is solved. It is not a good sign of having that post in SO any more considering the quality. :) What say? Shall we take it down? Need another downvote for the question.
 
there basically are no mysql hammers for the most part. Only PHP people seem to do it
 
@Drew I have closed hammerred it.
 
much obliged :P
 
@Drew :D :D :D
 
11:50 AM
Another example of taking hours to ferret the most simple of info out of an OP
@PraveenKumar wrong dupe target tho
 
@Drew No right one...
We cannot ****in spoonfeed everyone.
 
@PraveenKumar hours ago I was collecting info from the guy. Once he told it to me, it was on different servers. So wrong dupe target. Thus, my msg to Riz
 
@Drew Okay.
 
Left a message. Moving on. thx
 
Hello everybody
 
11:59 AM
Hello
 
Developer ya could have told me you changed your name. Now I understand why I was so confused the other day in chat what you were talking about in the other room
 
@Drew my apologies, I've taken it for granted
 
@Tushar o/
 
12:17 PM
o/
 
@PraveenKumar concerning stackoverflow.com/questions/35519656 do I get one other gold to reopen and rehammer ?
 
@Drew Yes. Do you want me to reopen?
 
sure thx
 
Done.
 
@Rizier123 can you hammer stackoverflow.com/questions/35519656 with the dupe target at bottom of comments
 
12:35 PM
closed
 
someone please close for any reason you feel like stackoverflow.com/q/35494946
 
12:53 PM
Hiya
 
@Drew it's closed and about to be deleted
 
sd remove- someone edited
 
rude in hindi...
 
@Tunaki Do you know Hindi?
 
12:57 PM
Google Translate does :)
 
Ha ha ha.
 
tuna there is a new question here that is a dupe potential people seem to love stackoverflow.com/questions/35497299
 
@Drew not sure there. Actually, maybe hammering the inverse would be better
 
ok i will remove it from my next batch
 
The new question is a lot better than this dupe target
 
1:04 PM
how dare you be thorough
 
1:16 PM
If Ken shows up about the NAA edits, have him chat with Tuna
 
2 people have already approved. Does he come here?
 
no
If toscv shows up about sugg edit approvals he made, same deal
 
hello
I joined! :)
 
@toskv thx
 
Hello!
 
1:28 PM
You made 2 approvals recently, see Tunaki's list of 2 like 8 lines up
 
@toskv Those posts were actually "Not An Answer" so the edits shouldn't have been approved.
 
@G typo in my book
 
I see
can I then change my response?
 
1:31 PM
Not anymore but you can keep it in mind for the future :).
 
I see it's been rejected already :)
indeed :)
 
The first one was rejected but not the second :s
 
thanks for pointing it out to me :)
 
No problem :)
 
thx for stopping on by
 
1:32 PM
@Tunaki Looking at the answers (most of them are link-only answers), it could be also closed as off-site resource recommendation.
 
and while you are here @toskv consider voting to close a few of these :
batch107 count=12 cv3 is in the beehive
Fame and fortune may await you :P
 
@Gothdo If there isn't something in the question that looks like a request for off-site resources (and I don't see any), then this is not a good close reason. A lot of purely programming questions can be answered with "use this library" instead of giving an answer that shows a procedure to fix the issue. Answers are at best suggestive. If I see a lot of library suggestions, I'll reread the question to check whether I missed something.
 
@Tunaki @KenD is here re: NAA edits. Ken see above conversation. Thx for showing up
 
I'll have a look
 
I have declared you a java expert just for the record
Just kidding. If you have time.
 
1:36 PM
me? oh my.. time to dust off my java hat :P
 
Just the obvious ones, like a guy not showing any detail or code, or massively too broad. Helps take the burden off. We have javascript stuff too.
 
@Louis a link to a library is still a rather poor answer. you still need to show how that library is relevant to the problem
 
I've started reading the java ones :)
 
@sam what is the generic url for the lists of posts here (as opposed to the TinyGiant requests button / userscript) ?
 
I have about 20 minutes left at this dojo session, if the kids don't ask too many questions I might have enough time for all of them :P
 
1:43 PM
no obligation. Just stop on by sometime. We love 3k rep peeps
 
@cimmanon I agree but Gothdo was talking about close reasons for the question, and that's what I was addressing.
 
in the past, we have closed questions that encourage link-only answers as a request for an off-site resource (i can has tutorial?)
 
Yo
 
user177800
@Drew because hubris ...
 
@JarrodRoberson the kinder, gentler drew: stackoverflow.com/questions/35523868/…
Will see how long that lasts
 
1:59 PM
@Tunaki On that 2nd review (which got approved), there's an old answer to that question which links to another answer. Would that link be a suitable dupe target to close the question with?
 

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