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12:05 PM
@SmokeDetector CV, also, it's a fairly easy Excel compound IF expression. Even I could do it, so it must be trivial.
 
@Ferrybig You there?
 
Yes
 
Why don't you flag that post as rude / offensive?
 
I flagged it as NAA, didn't see how that post was spam as it wasn't promoting any service
Should answers like that be flagged as NAA, or as SPAM?
 
@Ferrybig No... Rude / Offensive...
That clearly is a R/O answer.
NAA, you can flag it for comments.
This one is like intentional, isn't it? :)
> This was posted as an answer, but it does not attempt to answer the question. It should possibly be an edit, a comment, another question, or deleted altogether.
 
12:09 PM
I'd go for an invalidated answer within grace period
 
Even for a comment, this would be abusive.
Yea, NAA / R/O should do... Anyways. This comes under R/O - Just FYI. :)
 
isn't it R/A ?
 
I was surprised when Tunaki said to flag something similar as spam:
Feb 11 at 14:46, by Tunaki
@WaiHaLee Yep. Garbage like that from 1 rep user should just die. You can flag as anything you want but spam gets the job done quicker.
 
@BobNocraz It is... :)
 
Next I will flag answers posts like that as rude and abusive intentions, thought rude was only abusive language
 
12:11 PM
If I'd assume intentional, could even be an invalidated answer, where we would do a rollback on a question
 
Actually I read in a meta post that intentional BS should be severely dealt with R/O. And since they don't promote anything, so not exactly a spam. :D
 
@bummi I always check if a post has a revision history before I flag something, I don't want to accidentally flag a good post that has a bad editor
 
@Ferrybig It was created some 45 secs ago..
Plus it doesn't have any rev history, if it was edited by the OP within 5 mins.
@Ferrybig That user is gone! Ha ha ha!!!
 
@PraveenKumar That was spam. I was answering a question and couldn't flag
 
12:15 PM
@BhargavRao Doesn't promote or contain any links! Lemme get you the meta post. :)
 
ha, I voted r/a like you suggested @PraveenKumar and it was disputed. not that I mind either way.
 
@BobNocraz What???
 
at least the rubbish is gone
 
@BobNocraz LoL... Mine disputed too... :(
 
We are all agreeing that posts like that should be deleted, but now we are discussing what flags we using. I always liked this room, :)
 
12:17 PM
Well everyone's disputed. :P
@BhargavRao Was your disputed or helpful?
You spammed it flagged it as spam right?
 
I have "helpful" at my NAA
 
@Ferrybig Congratz! :P LoL.
 
i guess 'not an answer' is probably more correct. they didn't say anything that was particularly rude or abusive. unless you count 'not giving an answer' as rude or abusive
 
@BobNocraz LoL. Yeah... :)
 
I went VLQ, which was marked as helpful. It's not even an attempt to answer the question.
 
12:19 PM
But since it was intentional, I didn't choose it...
Now this is LoL level confusing... Ha ha.
 
Could do with a flow chart of how to deal with/flag posts.
 
Accusing someone of being a spammer on a Stack Exchange site is pretty severe, and if the mods agree the repercussions are swift and merciless. Mere rude / offensive / stupid behaviour is to be discouraged (and flagged when necessary), but it's not as bad as actual spamming.
 
12:35 PM
Should I ask meta how "keyboard smash garbage posts" should be handled? If everyone agrees on the same flag, then garbage like that post can be cleaned faster.
 
@Ferrybig Naw, search up KevinGuan's meta prof, you'll find the post
 
why not let that one ride Kitler
 
why let it? :P
 
People might learn about frameworks and save a few years ?
 
From the comments?
 
12:42 PM
From the stellar tags he posted at his own expense
 
it got nuked vOv
 
@Magisch I've answered your metapost
 
Lol github.com/DeanMW/javbascript looks like he was a troll user
 
@Kitler OP got a clue and deleted the question
 
12:51 PM
I like that cv reason :P
 
^^^ Not a good attitude of the OP
 
@Kitler ;)
 
@Kitler I seem to recall that it was considered rude and that more neutral language should be used.
 
@NisseEngström That't not rude.
 
@PraveenKumar delete vote.
 
12:54 PM
@Omar Another one @Drew??? Can you delete?
 
i don't have 20k do I need it ?
 
@Drew If you want to be able to use delete votes on answers - yup
 
@JonClements Hey! :)
o/
 
@Drew Point Noted. :)
 
12:56 PM
Before I looked ... it was for a question of unknown age @JonClements
 
@Drew Unknown age? LoL
 
unknown age of close
 
Plop morning!
 
Thanks guys.
 
Sam
Morning!
 
12:58 PM
Typo confirmed by answer acceptance (thanks Louis)
acceptation? acceptance?
Mnh
 
@PraveenKumar Did you read the transcript from the latest room meating?
 
@Drew "unknown age of close" - huh?
 
Plop Jon!
 
What should we do when we come across questions that are no longer valid, stackoverflow.com/questions/18685669/… for instance the versions of the libs he was using back then are ancient and it can no longer be answered
 
@Kyll it's "acceptance" :p
 
12:59 PM
@NisseEngström Er... :( Nopes. Link?
 
@JonClements Thanks =p
 
@Kyll Let's close it and delete it.
 
@JonClements for me: "You must wait for a question to be closed for 2 days before you can vote for deletion."
 
@Drew That stands if you are the OP!
 
I can't delete stuff you can Prav
 
1:01 PM
@Drew ahh yes - 20k users can delete Qs immediately before the 48hrs from being closed as long as the Q is -3 or less
 
@PraveenKumar Lost it. Anyone else got a link to the transcript from the latest room meeting?
 
@Drew Yes. I understood just now.
@JonClements Oh Nice... So many little rules... SO Rocks! :P
 
@NisseEngström The December one?
 
@Kyll Yes (I think).
 
@NisseEngström If it isn't in the bookmarks yet it should get there

December 2015 Room Meeting

Nov 30 '15 at 19:03, 58 minutes total – 295 messages, 18 users, 10 stars

Bookmarked Nov 30 '15 at 20:02 by gunr2171

That one thing?
 
1:12 PM
@Kyll Thanks for the link. I'm not sure now. I clearly remember reading that custom close vote reasons and comments should be written in a factual and neutral manner and that "gimme teh codez" could be considered rude and should be avoided.
 
@NisseEngström Oh, is that about "gimme teh codez" questions?
 
Sam
@NisseEngström They should.
The FAQ should state so.
 
As it happens "gimme teh codez" is a short form for "This does not show any kind of research and kinda pisses me off". This is not a close reason, this is a downvote one. Using it as a close reason is an abuse of the system (it's in italics, it must be true!).
"Too Broad" for program descriptions fits generally well, and "No MCVE" fits perfectly if the question states some kind of issue ("I tried but it didn't work") but doesn't provide enough data about it
 
No MCVE right?
 
"I'm voting to close this question because it's a gimme teh codez question." should be flagged as not constructive
 
1:16 PM
I think I voted Unclear on that one (the one a while back)
 
@Kyll I've seen it thrown about several times recently. I refrained from voting on the cv-pls earlier because I don't want to end up looking like an ass when the custom close vote consensus (or at least the comment) says "gimme teh codez".
 
Over in Python SO we tend to close "gimme teh codez" questions as "too broad" or "unclear". But we generally give the OP 10 minutes to respond to comments requesting them to improve their question before CV-ing.
 
@NisseEngström If I see something like [tag:cv-pls] gimme teh codez I say to the requester that it isn't a close reason
@kayess Sorta. Too Broad fits well
 
@NisseEngström yeah, a "feature" of SO that makes people not want to vote
 
@PM2Ring I'm starting to think half the sopython team hang out here now :p
 
1:20 PM
@JonClements Shhh, That's the plan (To take over) :D
 
sigh On it...
 
@Kyll Ah, it wasn't a "[tag:cv-pls]". It was just "close and delete stackoverflow.com/q/35174995/".
 
@NisseEngström Meh. It's equivalent, no?
 
@NisseEngström Yes - they should be as they leave an auto-comment and umm... well, some users have taken it too far in the past
 
@Kyll Pretty much, without some tracking or followup or whatnot.
 
1:25 PM
@NisseEngström (stalking) Also, where's the "gimme teh codez" part in that?
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.10.5 (debug).
 
Yay Yam \o/
 
This six year old question asks for software recommendation, it would be closed if asked today. It has got a new (link only) answer today. Should the question be deleted?
 
@AdrianHHH Deleted, not necessarily. It depends on the quality of its answers. But closed, absolutely!
 
If someone just dumps an obvious homework assignment spec with no code or even a vague sketch of how they think they could code it, then they are either too lazy to do it, or they are lacking some language knowledge or a particular programming skill. Of course, it's rude to assume that the OP is lazy... :)
So without further information it's unclear what's preventing them from writing the code themself. And it's too broad to start writing answers too, when you don't know what's stopping the OP from submitting some code.
 
1:27 PM
@Kyll It was a custom close reason. The "gimme teh codez" part ended up as a comment. The question is now deleted it seems.
 
@NisseEngström Okay, I got it now ^^
 
@Kyll, thanks. My poor wording or delete -vs- closed.
 
@PM2Ring The actual close reason would depend on the way the question is built. If it's, "how do I do this homework" then it's probably too broad. If it's, "is my train of thought right for this purpose" or equivalent then it's unclear.
 
When I went into that question, the Off-topic close reason was the give me teh codez
 
Sam
@Kyll But, we like trains.
 
1:29 PM
I think all the votes were on it
 
@AdrianHHH You can [tag:cv-pls] the question here to see it closed before it attracts more VLQ/spam
@Sam I like reck'ing them...
 
Sam
We've noticed :p
 
@Kyll If they've got a train of thought in there, I'm all for guiding them into improving the question via comments. If they won't co-operate, then close-vote.
 
@PM2Ring Agreed
 
MOD-Flag? 1 2 3?
 
1:31 PM
@juergend Greetings. Don't see you here much. Like your answers
 
@AdrianHHH Add a reason there like ^
 
Is it !!/allspam to report a user?
 
Yeah
 
@AdrianHHH Don't forget to add a reason, like [tag:cv-pls] lib request (question link)
 
Don't jump there. The questions are similar, the OP might be naive. Mod flag is better than Spam.
 
1:34 PM
@AdrianHHH looks like it's valid for a historical lock
 
@BhargavRao An unregistered user posted several VLQ links to the same external resource. It's spam.
 
@MadaraUchiha can you re-clean the comments on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/295233/… so that only dfeuer's and rene's comments are left (any any on-topic ones since now)?
 
Whether or not the user should be deleted is up to the diamond reviewing the flags.
 
the definition of spam is a bit weird though, is the user promoting a product with that link?
 
they have a shelf life of a minute
 
Sam
1:36 PM
@SmokeDetector all gone
 
Can I apply for a 'Laziest Question of the Month' entry form? 'Googling your exact title gives: About 327,000,000 results'
 
@Kitler Yeah, He's promoting his webpage.
 
product is irrelevant
 
@Kitler Don't know, don't care. It's not up to us to determine
 
@Kyll I m asking because I v had such flags declined in the past and I was given that argument
 
1:37 PM
Thanks for the comments on that question and my request. I will try harder next time. Historical lock is an OK idea, is there a way or a place to request it?
 
@AdrianHHH Most answers are pretty bad actually. Histo lock could fit... But I'd go for deletion.
 
lookin' rather spammie now, that spam
 
morning!
 
Sam
Morning
 
Plop gunr =D
 
Sam
1:39 PM
Dang 2 min grace period.
 
Morning
Crossed 2700 flags ... Thanks to Tuna being absent today
 
@MadaraUchiha thanks, but the comments by Zizouz212 and Mike McCaughan are also off-topic, they are talking about the puns
 
comment flag, move on.
 
5 helpful flags thanks to that user =D
 
eventually we'll make tag bunination professional
 
1:41 PM
@gunr2171 Thoughts about ? My flamethrower is tickling!
 
@gunr2171 Like with an actual fireplace and some BBQ?
 
Anyone ever tried waffles to the BBQ?
 
nasty
 
@Kyll I'm not the guy who decides tags
 
1:45 PM
@gunr2171 I didn't ask for a decision, only for a thought
@Rizier123 How did this get 60k views o_o
 
@DanField welcome. Join us for close voting in c# or elsewhere anytime
 
@Kyll You mean 3mio. views: youtube.com/watch?v=sDj72zqZakE
 
@Kyll He linked it everywhere. There is a comment there, Rizier bought me here
 
@DanField Wow a c# guy around here, welcome \o
 
1:48 PM
Hi, finally back I went skiing some...
 
"by name"
 
pp_
I guess this counts as "rude"?
 
Yes, this is defenitly rude
 
yep
 
@pp_ Let's make a flowchart with examples plzzz. :D
 
1:50 PM
Wafflez
 
Hiya
 
Idli Dosa
 
Plop Tuna
 
hey!
 
There's a typo in corners featured post
Normal?
 
1:51 PM
@gunr2171 Hey!
 
hola
 
@Tunaki I thought it was a pun I didn't get
 
I was on my way to fix it but then I thought it was maybe intended
 
@Tunaki the title? butnitiate?
 
yes
burnitiate instead of burninate
 
1:53 PM
i thought it's initiate + burninate
 
which is kindof a portmanteau of burninate + initiate
 
What would be the pun with "corner" then?
 
ask madara, i'm busy rolling back edits and asking users to stop commenting off-topic
 
burnination n.: What happens when Trogdor breathes fire at (burninates) objects. This expression is first seen in the Strong Bad Email interview.
 
gnat just edited with a pun and it was rollbacked
 
1:55 PM
@Tunaki That's not a typo. My comment there stating that was removed
 
(oh my god I'm good at typing this morning)
 
@Kyll see the edit history. it was "Should we throw [corners] in the corner" and others suggested "Let's we cut some [corners]"
 
Okay.
 
@Tunaki Flags over?
 
Haven't even started =(
Just got up
And yeah it's 3 PM.
 
1:57 PM
16 mins ago, by Bhargav Rao
Crossed 2700 flags ... Thanks to Tuna being absent today
 
anyone in here often with a low 2k rep that is active and eager to close ?
 
lol
 
I'm taking over NATO :p.
 
I have 10 flags left. Yeah, you can take over those NATO Strikes :D
 
2:00 PM
@BhargavRao NAA. Close the question and delete it...
 
flag that ^ as spam
 
NATO waffles. LOL.
 
i got the revival badge on meta...
 
@Tunaki Why the rollback? Both versions are NAA
 
2:03 PM
@Ferrybig Defaced content should be rollbacked
 
@Ferrybig Because NAA1 is better than NAA2
 
@BhargavRao and @Tunaki Ready to take down that answer?
I am gonna -vote and del-v.
 
@Tushar dis iz gon
 
Meh. The VLQRQ will take care of it.
Eventually.
 
@Tunaki Okie...
 
2:07 PM
@BhargavRao I'm not going over the 25 pages of NATO, I'm guessing you went through them all?
 
@Tunaki I've gone through them, except if there are few answers where the NAA is hidden
 
@Kyll Can't. At +7 so must wait a couple of days.
 
@Tunaki Uh, okay.
 
@Tunaki +6 now
 
Oh look. +5.
 
2:10 PM
It's +4
 
Oh, a waffle. It was there all along!
 
Let's not pile on and wait a few days we're going to run into troubles otherwise
 
@Tunaki Got it. Don't say anything!
 
This is what I hate Grumble Grumble
 
@Tunaki I see you made some as well the other day
 
2:12 PM
Yep. :)
 
Does that make us syrup brothers?
 
@gunr2171 This sounds very very wrong. I like it.
 
maple syrup? I prefer all kinds of jam. Or icing sugar.
 
> Danks in advance!
 
ugh, no. never mind. I prefer to not ruin my waffles.
 
2:15 PM
@gunr2171 Jam > syrup
 
^ yes
 
:| meh
 
Only the French know the true value of food.
 
ice cream also works with those waffles
 
then again, SO is not going to back me up
 
2:15 PM
Jam Master
 
(Old man voice) We didn't know at the time, but that would be the beginning of the greatest war Stack Overflow had ever undertaken.
 
*Stack Waffleflow
 
Sam
*Waffle Overflow
 
*Waffle Ovewflow
 
@user1803551 Sounds like a dog.
 
2:18 PM
it was Homestar Runner edition
 
@BhargavRao Ah you saw that, nice heh? :)
 
@Tunaki Yeah. We clashed there. I guess, I will leave the NATO page :/
 
Keep your last flags for spam then :)
 
Nice.
 
2:20 PM
@Tunaki Have 8, I will cease flagging now for spam.
 
@BhargavRao I wish Punch was a thing on SO
 
s/SO/internet
 
@BhargavRao You're going to hurt yourself
 
@Kyll How?
 
2:22 PM
@BhargavRao 403: You have pressed this button too many times today, come back in 5 hours to continue punching Kyll in the face.
4
 
@kayess You shouldn't punch a spear :x
 
After 3 tries to capture at the correct moment i.stack.imgur.com/ULSHn.png
@Kyll Ouch, a squirrel spear ain't hurt me
State of @Kyll At this moment - 9gag.com/gag/aNnpM00
 
lol
 
@BhargavRao It's training!
 
Yeah Yeah, we know :P
 
2:30 PM
@BhargavRao 100 sit ups! 100 push ups! 100 squats! 10 km run! Every single day! Until all your hair falls out!
 
Lol :D
 
@MadaraUchiha Is it possible to edit-lock the feature burnination post?
 
@Tunaki Locking is a nuclear feature. If I lock it, nothing can be done on the post
voting, editing, answering, commenting
 
Employees can edit lock (I guess)
@MadaraUchiha Answers can be edit locked?
 
@BhargavRao I think you put the wrong link there: youtube.com/watch?v=4ikH9ZRcF2Q
 
2:33 PM
@BhargavRao Nope.
 
@MadaraUchiha What bout this? stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/4099593
@Rizier123 Lol, that's after he leaves the room
 
@BhargavRao Can you comment on it?
Can you vote on it?
 
Oh, damn. I was confused. Ty
 
It would be a nice addition. Just locking the editing and leaving the rest.
 
Yeah.
 
Sam
2:38 PM
 
Should the last report be k?
 
Nope, NAA
 
sd remove- not spam
 
@BhargavRao Ha ha ha...
Man... Finish my comment... :P
 
I dunno the next part
It will visit the Q soon, so no need to delete. :-)
 
2:41 PM
@BhargavRao Done! LoL. Single powerful delete. :P
@MadaraUchiha I have a question... Whenever someone flags any messages on the chat, it is coming to me! Have I got promoted to Chat-Mod or is that a bug or something? I couldn't find the documentation for that.
 
It goes to all 10k+ users
 
@PraveenKumar All 10k users see spam/abusive flags
 
@MadaraUchiha Thanks. This is the first time I am noticing. :)
 
There are also special, mod-only flags that only blues can see.
 
@PraveenKumar That's because you're the One.
3
 
2:45 PM
@Tunaki LoL Tuna! :P
I am the One. The what? :O
 
Mod-flag? 1 2 3
 
@BhargavRao was writing one. Dyou have one ready?
@PraveenKumar That's the question isn't it? :p
 
@Tunaki Yes! :P
 
@Tunaki Go ahead. I hafta yet type. (You've got more flags left :P)
@Tunaki 4
 
They are spam right?
 
2:48 PM
Does !!/allspam blacklist the user too?
 
The user has legit posts
 
I'm not asking for this one
 
while the user might get removed maybe we can close the roots of the evil too
 
The 4th one remains!
 
Dang @MadaraUchiha, you didn't even let me [tag:cv-pls] that one o_o
 
2:54 PM
Guys... The blacklisting and whitelisting of users is applicable inside the SD's environment right? nothing related to StackOverflow, or is it?
 
@PraveenKumar Smokey is not officially connected to SO's databases. It only listens to the wind... (of websockets)
 
@Kyll Blacklist - Where it stores? :)
Okay, answered. LoL.
 
@PetterFriberg we could use 2 new java closers today. Got a wad we have to look at
 
@BhargavRao postgone
 
Yep, saw that.
 
2:57 PM
The answers there could also use some "love".
 
@Drew I'll try to bring people in.
 
Waffle alert!
 
@PM2Ring please don't do one-boxes here
 
3:00 PM
Please keep the number of oneboxes to a minimum.
 
One box grumble grumble one box
 
@Tunaki WAFFLES?!?!? WHERE?!?!
 
Yep, one-boxes are noisy
 
Sorry people. Wrong Chatroom.
 
@gunr2171 Just disappeared. Damn, they were just there!
 
3:01 PM
@PM2Ring Next time you'll end up saying "Rhubarb" here :P
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Don't worry, let's go for Idli Dosa. :D
 
Can't find, Where is that "How to do self-promotion" help page?
 
@BhargavRao I've almost used Salad language here a couple of times, but managed to stop myself just in time. :)
 
3:04 PM
@BhargavRao you mean this one: stackoverflow.com/help/promotion
 
@BhargavRao :) Yeah, I saw that earlier. But on that note, it's getting late here... Catch you all next time.
 
@rene Thanks. It is promotion, I was searching self-promotion
@PM2Ring See ya later o/
 
@BhargavRao That?
 
@Kyll Insta-bookmarked. Hadn't seen that before. Ty!
 
=D
 
3:11 PM
@Shadow can you join us in Campaigns when you have a chance? Thanks
 
Corners is on +71/-1
 
@rene It has -1. Can't be burnatiated. Sorry.
 
LOL
 
@rene slack pm
 
@MadaraUchiha It can't be burnatiated, okay. But can it be burninated?
 
3:18 PM
@Tunaki Only if it's also burned by the process.
 
@MadaraUchiha What if the process is also burning?
 
@Tunaki In that case, a haiku must also be submitted for Shog9 to inspect.
 
The haiku should still be approved by the community though.
 
Bah, Guess I will leave those flags :P
Going out, See ya guys later o/
 
Sam
Cya
 
3:29 PM
cya
 
Bye
 
that -1 on corners was by someone who wanted me to change my pun and i didn't
 
3:47 PM
@PraveenKumar
@Tushar, I typed this up on my phone and I did not see your answer before I submitted mine. Besides, it was basically just a link to someone else's answer. The point is that this question seems a little redundant. Anyway, I have no problem with your answer being the accepted one. As you say it's more thorough and was posted earlier. Praveen Kumar, if you're suggesting I copied from Tushar... I don't see what the point would have been. — Wodin 1 min ago
Probably you should remove your comment
 

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