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2:00 PM
@NathanOliver Could fit on CodeReview but it needs to be edited to ask for a review instead of asking "is it okay"
 
@Tunaki Does CR review stuff according to a set of guidelines? Could I ask "does this code follow the foobar principle correctly?" or something equivalent?
 
@Drew do you like me to stepup?
 
definitely NOT !
 
No one likes Petter
 
we have jasper and java coming your way need ya on that
 
2:03 PM
opps closed one...
 
alright that's it !
 
@Kyll All the code is there (this is a pre-requisite over there), it is clear enough, doesn't look too broad so I think your edit would make it on-topic there yeah.
 
@Kyll like push the like button please...
before is removed
 
@Tunaki Could you make a comment to explain that it should be posted there and what modifications should be done to it? Turns out Nathan's faster than you
 
@Kyll @Tunaki I left the OP a comment.
 
2:04 PM
Nice
 
mad ninja skills
 
So what is this?
 
I have already flagged and cv-pls'd that
 
@kayess Edited with code since then
 
@Kyll Is it any better?:\
 
2:07 PM
@kayess It's differently off-topic
 
@Kyll Then swoosh with your close sword!
 
@kayess It's a spear, duh
 
Holy smokes... 10.3k, the close que is increasing with 1K a day... (maybe because Drew do not let me review it)
 
!!/blame
 
@kayess It's Tunaki's fault.
 
2:09 PM
@PetterFriberg sorry.
 
maybe someone flagging to much ; )
 
yeah well let peeps add a tag and "clean" the queue that way
False sense of achievement
 
It will drop back down over the weekend. The middle of the week brings in a lot of crud that needs to be closed.
 
now, where is hichris123 graph of the queue
 
@SmokeDetector No it's not. I know it.
 
2:13 PM
8000 flags... and nothing went to that que...
 
actually flags*2, since you need 2 flags to push stuff to the queue
 
@Braiam What?
 
@Tunaki with a single flag, the question doesn't enters the queue
 
@Braiam is it valid also for NAA flags?
 
@PetterFriberg no
 
2:15 PM
@Braiam Seriously?! Do you have a Meta reference?
 
@Braiam How many CV are need for it to enter?
 
@Braiam I actually remember something like that for flags yeah
@PetterFriberg Only 1
 
@Kyll ok thanks I was getting worried....
 
@Braiam Haaa you're talking about the CV queue right? Not the LQP review queue?
 
@Tunaki sure we all are talking about that...
 
2:17 PM
anyway got to go, Cya:!
 
Cya o/
 
Cya o/
 
Does that count as a typo? Used an arrow function (which has a different context behaviour) instead of a normal function
 
Is this too broad or tool rec?
 
2:22 PM
@Braiam Reading, seems interesting. A lot.
 
Hey
 
Plop!
 
I got an hour left in my workday and 50 CVs to burn
 
> On average, roughly 800 questions are actually closed every day.
800/40=20 users, right?
 
Heya!
 
2:29 PM
@Braiam 800 * 5 / 40 you mean
 
@kayess Not sure. I am not even sure if it qualifies as a programming problem.
 
@Braiam 800 questions, 5 votes each, that's 4000 votes. Everyone has 40 votes, so that's... Wait, only a hundred people?
 
@Kyll I'm presuming that 20 users get the final close vote
 
@NathanOliver True, it's rather some architectural question, pretty loosely coupled with programming.
 
Anyone got a good use for my CVs today?
 
2:31 PM
heya @Magisch
 
Hey
 
@Kyll 50 CV
 
@PetterFriberg Not in the queue
 
true.... but lets spend'em all...
 
There were 1327 reviews today
Divided by let's guess 30 reviews, that's barely 40 people
4
 
2:33 PM
I haven't CVd a single question today
 
@Magisch Saw Drew drop some C question, above... asking him before... I accidentally closed one... and he got really mad.... ; )...
 
@Drew
 
@Drew, just wan't to say Hello, Hello
lets edit it as well
 
@MartinJames Repwhoring is a fickle game. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and you gain rep by having it work more times then it doesn't, and delete the posts where it doesn't.
 
2:41 PM
Hi
 
Hi
 
bah I never get mad
 
you rather derail trains
 
ok PF I got your jasper stuff
 
rdy to rock... jasper
 
2:45 PM
@Kyll So the conclusion is that no one reviews?
 
@Thaillie I guess so
 
Where's SD?
sd alive
 
@Thaillie It needs to be Drew's fault...
 
Thats because we run out of CV's just being in here. This is a big reason why the queues should have there own "votes" and not count them against out daily limits.
3
 
@SmokeDetector alive
 
2:47 PM
!!/alive
 
@Thaillie Kinda sorta
 
@Sam SD dead?
Oh...
 
sd needs coffe
 
Not even a single spam report from SD?
 
Not a single report in ~2 hours?
 
2:48 PM
Weird.
sd stats
 
@NathanOliver Maybe that's one thing we could discuss about during a meeting and present an FR to Meta once we have a complete one
 
@kayess Unsure if you were joking, But I have been using HDMI since 4 years. My old laptop (Inspiron 15z) had only HDMI port. The monitor that I have been speaking about is from 2004. HDMI came to existence in 2008.
 
@Kyll It is already out there. searching...
 
@BhargavRao ofc I have tried to joke :(
 
@Kyll Wasn't there a recent request?
 
2:49 PM
!!/status
 
@PraveenKumar Running since 13:24:46 UTC (85 minutes)
 
@Thaillie No idea
 
@kayess Lol :D BTW, I had to buy HDMI to VGA converter too (About 5 USD)
 
@BhargavRao couldn't you buy a used LCD screen for $10?:)
 
2:52 PM
I have 3
 
@kayess That's Rs. 675.00... No way.
@BhargavRao What sizes? Can I borrow one?
 
@PraveenKumar Fueling your Ferrari takes more...
 
@kayess Petrol 1 lt is Rs. 70 ~ 1 $.
 
@PraveenKumar 15 inches, side to side.
 
@BhargavRao No comments. :) I am looking for 27" +.
 
2:54 PM
@BhargavRao What are you doing with that smartphone size thingie? :p
 
@PraveenKumar My TV is 61 inches. I have connected a CPU to it
@kayess Lol, 15 inches X 3
 
Ye ye here we go with "Mine is ... inches"
 
@kayess Let it be...
 
... he he I will win... projector....
 
2:55 PM
@kayess This is the only one on Amazon for 10$ (nearly) amazon.com/inch-Foldable-Rearview-Monitor-Screen/dp/B006MPRFJQ/… :D :D
 
@NathanOliver I want to throw more upvotes at this
 
When I was in India, I got a 24" Dell Monitor for 90 £ (Rs. 9000). But here in the UK, everything is minimum (the worst one too) is 180 £ (Rs. 18000) for just a stupid 19" Dead Monitor.
 
@Kyll I fell you. Everytime I see it I want to upvote it.
 
misses India, home
 
@PetterFriberg DLP?
 
2:57 PM
India is not a place I'd want to live in tbh
 
@BhargavRao Yeah... you are against it... short throw...
 
Yessss \o/ One less human
 
@PetterFriberg your file is up there
 
Anyone here using a vertical mouse?
 
@PetterFriberg My neighbours have that.. It's like 500 USD :(
 
2:58 PM
aaah ok, up there, I was scrolling chat... you sneaky ba...rd..
 
I am sure you will find it. Taking a shower
 
Wrt CR... I can be your personal CR warrior of you want
@Kitler that doesn't make it any more valid for CR.
If the question doesn't make sense here, why would it make sense pber at CR?
 
@Cerbrus Both of those links reference an answer not a question. They should be links to the question. I also noticed both answers are from the same user. Please don't target a user.
 
@Vogel612 I m asking him what it is he wants
I have 0 idea what he wants
that is why I cv-ed "Unclear what you are asking"
because wall of code that is unrelated to ember + made up names like "component model" and the "thoughts?" at the end make it look like he's asking for feedback on the code
 
3:08 PM
@Kyll @Tunaki That guy just commented that he was going to ask on CR and he deleted his question.
 
@NathanOliver And maybe that user should start closing questions instead of answering...
 
JAL
morning all
 
@Cerbrus That user is right here in this room.
 
Morning JAL o/
 
@Cerbrus I agree but we do not target users
 
3:10 PM
@kayess No point in asking him. He always agrees, then continues on his merry way.
 
@Cerbrus I see, I wasn't aware of that.
 
@NathanOliver Okay, thanks
 
^ cc @Sam
 
wow... got 910 rep O_O
 
3:17 PM
nice
looks like you can close vote now.
 
welcome to the 3k club
 
@Braiam @JarrodRoberson Awarded you 900 points in bounty
 
@Braiam You can thank Jarrod
 
Wait, wut?
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [apt]"
 
3:25 PM
@Drew interesting to see the list... unfortunately I have already voted on almost all of them.. if someone like the 4cv and maybe 3cv may need a push, some of the 1cv I have not voted yet (waiting for mcve, its a low traffic tag so no hurry, if none after a couple of days I normally pass it as cv-pls)
 
LoL. Nice comment too! After reading the question and since I didn't understand, so I asked a question, and the reply was astonishing. :P
@Praveen Kumar See you images — Niko_D 1 min ago
 
@Drew 34CV remaining.
 
@PraveenKumar See you close votes
 
@Braiam Congrats on 945!
Ha ha. LoL.
Another Frustrating Comment:
Firefox ----> Media query works differently in firefox — Niko_D 37 secs ago
 
I gave prav's question a push, 33CV
 
3:37 PM
@Braiam See you, firefox...
@Praveen Kumar See you , my question - Mozilla Firefox Image - 1 ------------------- ....... — Niko_D 32 secs ago
LoL... I don't know if I should laugh or get annoyed...
@PetterFriberg :P
 
@PraveenKumar You should ignore it, because the question is already closed :p
 
^^^^ Jailbreak
 
@Thaillie No I am just trying to help the OP. May be he's not good with English... :)
 
@PetterFriberg your cv4's are all closed now plus the one above thx to Prav.
 
@PraveenKumar Well, he is bad at English and only here because he is banned for 9 more days on the Russian SO.
 
3:42 PM
@Thaillie Omg! What a history! :(
Banned for what?
 
@PetterFriberg only obvious one now is this one which may be what I did, a DV, as we are limited. That one is aging and I spent like 6 so moving back to Java
 
@PraveenKumar His profile says "voting irregularities".
 
@Thaillie Yup... Just translated. I know what it means! :P
I always wondered, why there's a separate Russian SO, and not Tamil / Telugu / Hindi SOs... :P Any idea behind just having ru.so?
 
that's what came out of Area 51 first
 
I guess because the percentage of people able to speak/write/understand English in Russia is really low?
 
3:50 PM
Oh nice...
Any PHP guys here?
 
waves
 
hides
 
Is my answer okay: stackoverflow.com/q/35205394 Or am I being really stupid? Too confused. LoL.
 
Can this being considered as typo?
 
@PraveenKumar Looks ok.
 
3:53 PM
@Thaillie Thanks... :)
@kayess Could be a dupe. Not necessarily a typo.
 
@Drew I have already done everything I can about that one...
 
Meh
 
can let it rot
 
Wrong click, but you got the idea @PraveenKumar
 
@kayess Thanks...
 
3:56 PM
@Drew the jasper report tags seems fairly clean now (on newest tab there are 7 on-hold and 5 duplicate)
 
@PraveenKumar You better edit it into your answer, and give OP a clue why to check for session existence I think
 
@kayess Er... I don't understand.
Thanks @Drew! :)
 
np
 
@PraveenKumar I tried to refer to your comment below your answer. That I would edit it into the answer, but not sure it's the preferred way.
 
@kayess I replied the typo to the question you said. :P Context, that goes off. :P
@kayess Drew did it.
 
4:01 PM
@PraveenKumar It's not pretty good!:)
 
@kayess Which? Confused!
 
@PraveenKumar LOL your php answer
 
@kayess Not good? :P
Why?
LoL.
 
@PraveenKumar LOL typo, now
Kicks and burns the keyboard
 
I didn't even see kayess' comment. I just saw the question and added a quick ref to session info.
 
4:03 PM
@kayess starts crying
 
@Drew yep that's what I wrote here, just incidentally clicked wrong link
 
Makes it appear that Praveen is a session expert and who dare trouble him with such trivialities :P
 
Inside this confusions of confusions, let's ask Yam something.
@Yam alive
 
Yam
@PraveenKumar What do you think?
 
Ah! That's good.
 
4:05 PM
Still no spam reports from Smokey?
 
feels happy after messing with Yam
 
@Thaillie Why don't you post spam?
 
@BhargavRao Good one.. And I can get a notification. :)
Guys... Time off, leaving home. Bye... :)
 
let's sell some facial cream in that PHP answer
 
cya
 
4:06 PM
o/
 
Bye
 
:) :) :)
 
:) :)
 
:)
:|
:(
 
-_-
 
4:07 PM
Self-train
 
good thing Fred wasn't around @PraveenKumar he would slammed that dupe in 10 sec
 
4:43 PM
@MartinJames @ProgramFOX can you gander at the at the bottom of page chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/95290/mysql-stuff
 
4:58 PM
sd remove- edited
 
user4639281
By the book, both of those should have been deleted by 20k+ rep users instead of how they were deleted.
 
hmm need 10K
 
user4639281
The first was:
 
@TinyGiant its a shame but I have no idea how to make it better.
 
user4639281
5:09 PM
> Unfortunately WordOff is no longer available. Use wordhtml.com instead to clean the dirty markup added by Microsoft Word and other visual editors.
 
user4639281
> Dude, just do it with '' like in the exemple they gave you:"timeout":'5000',
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver I'm trying my hardest, every time I find one that shouldn't be recommended for deletion, I leave one of those comments, but it doesn't seem to make a difference as often as I would like.
 
user4639281
For reference, the comments are:
 
user4639281
> Before anyone chooses to [recommend deletion]() of this post, this is a valid attempted answer. This post should not have been flagged and should not be recommended for deletion in the LQPRQ. See: [You're doing it wrong: A plea for sanity in the Low Quality Posts queue](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/287563) and [Your answer is in another castle: when is an answer not an answer?](http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/225370)
 
user4639281
> @user This actually is a valid attempted answer. This post should not have been flagged and should not be recommended for deletion in the LQPRQ. See: [You're doing it wrong: A plea for sanity in the Low Quality Posts queue](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/287563) and [Your answer is in another castle: when is an answer not an answer?](http://meta.stackexchange.com/q/225370)
 
5:12 PM
@TinyGiant No it doesn't. I think most people think the LQPRQ is free deletes. What really stinnks is the audits they use are questions so you know when you see one. I think the auditing in the queue needs to be changed to better enforce the correct behavior.
 
@TinyGiant I see this a lot when user self answer (not very good), but at least they answer... and people comment that there answer should have been a comment... hmm
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver Well, they also use answers with only downvotes that were deleted with active flags, so that is a problem as well when people flag posts incorrectly and they are subsequently deleted.
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg Yeah, and people think that just because an answer could also exist as a comment means that it can't exist as an answer as well.
 
@TinyGiant Yep. the only audit cases do not enforce the correct behavior. Maybe we need a FR to make it better.
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver You would have to suggest a solution that was scalable to the size of SO, having an audit review queue has been suggested before.
 
5:18 PM
@TinyGiant Did you see that I found a comment of mine as an answer on similar question the review que... "and after some waffle I did not delete it...."
 
@TinyGiant that seems to be a comment to stackoverflow.com/a/1604098/792066
 
@TinyGiant Why not use answers that went through the queue before be made it out with looks okay? Normally those would be answers that most people would still recommend to delete and then you can catch them.
 
user4639281
@Braiam But it is still a valid attempted answer.
 
@Braiam But it has a replacement so it still counts as an answer.
 
@TinyGiant This one ..stackoverflow.com/questions/32102680/show-chart-with-no-table/… ... after comment the user actually gave me some credit atleast (in the beginning it was just my comment)
 
5:20 PM
@TinyGiant wordhtml doesn't have API!
is not a in-place replacement
 
user4639281
@Braiam It doesn't need to, the answer doesn't need to be correct or complete or even useful, it just has to be an attempted answer.
 
Now we should close that question
 
user4639281
Yes
 
Too broad or rec?
 
@TinyGiant that would be an answer to: what online editor that behaves like word can convert my documents to html?
 
user4639281
5:22 PM
@Braiam It doesn't have to answer the question, it has to be an attempt to answer a question.
 
doesn't have an api, nor document upload tool, is just a SaaS
 
user4639281
@Braiam So downvote it, and if you've got 20k+ rep, delete vote it, but don't flag it, and don't recommend it for deletion in the LQPRQ.
 
user4639281
It is a really bad answer, possibly wrong as you suggest, but it is still an attempted answer.
 
are we having this discussion again?
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg lol
 
@TinyGiant Would have loved to delete it, but an answer is an answer....
 
@TinyGiant I've read those, I still think is "the" question that should be answered since:
> Answers that do not fundamentally answer the question may be removed. This includes answers that are:
- **not even a partial answer to the actual question**
 
user4639281
They may be deleted, by 20k+ rep users.
 
user4639281
> Deleting answers
When should I vote to delete an answer?
You may vote to delete answers in the following cases:

The answer is extremely low quality: There is little to no scope for improvement
The answer doesn't attempt to answer the question; it may be a comment or a separate question altogether.
 
5:27 PM
sighs
 
user4639281
If it is syntactically an attempted answer, the NaA flag is invalid.
 
user4639281
If it is not gibberish or unintelligible nonsense, the VLQ flag is invalid.
 
user4639281
If it shouldn't have been flagged, it shouldn't be recommended for deletion in the LQPRQ.
 
user4639281
The flagging system and the LQPRQ are not substitutes for delete votes.
 
again, are we having this discussion again? lets agree to disagree, will do?
 
user4639281
5:30 PM
Sure, I'll agree to disagree.
 
Agreeing to disagree is a valid option in this room, please take that offer @TinyGiant
 
you can discuss what "an attempted to answer the question" means... like something do you need to understand the question to attempt?
 
No, you don't need to understand the question, at least based on Shog9's definition
 
@rene Think about the orange... it says "NOT ANSWER"
I think the trouble is the evaluation of is this an attempt to answer the question, does he know anything or is he just stating orange.... .... best to skip....
 
If they type Orange and we are looking for Apples, then that is an attempt at an answer and should not be flagged ? The whole thing is circuitous and silly
Because it is not gibberish and it is not unintelligible and oh yeah we all agreed to disagree
 
user3956566
5:39 PM
@PraveenKumar for what?
 
user3956566
\o
 
in fact also to me this is the complexity of the que.... you need to understand if they are looking for apples... and the answer is orange.... FRUIT NINJA
 
or a bag of chickens or cats
 
user4639281
If someone asks a question in the answer box, it isn't an answer, because it is a question.
 
That I hope we all agree with
 
user4639281
5:40 PM
If it is a wrong, or low quality answer, it is still an answer.
 
you all are making me hungry, i'm afk for lunch
 
@gunr2171 what you are eating?
 
An orange looking for apples to me is DV or not DV but leave
 
user4639281
If you want to know whether it should be flagged or not, forget the question and all other answers there. Look at just the answer and ask yourself whether or not it is syntactically an answer.
 
I'm going with white rise, red beans and pork with chayote
 
5:42 PM
@Braiam going to the store to buy a sandwich and an apple
 
»_»
 
that sounds so much better
 
user3956566
I have a craving for citrus fruits now
 
@PetterFriberg MsYv has a bag of cats by the way
 
To eat?
 
5:43 PM
hopefully to cuddle with
 
@Drew need to run now, will try to get back later.... and I still have CV....
 
ok let me know how many you want
 
@PetterFriberg ... monster
 
lol, in Italy we only eat mouse you eat cats (this one I will not explain, rene would not be happy)
@Drew 20-25....
 
I like cats. they taste like chicken
 
5:48 PM
@NathanOliver We are not speaking about the same cat....
 
user4639281
I like chickens, they taste like chickens
 
cya all, before you kick me, bye
 
:)
bye
 
user4639281
bye
 
if this room doesn't return to sanity, I will start talking about giant spiders... don't force to!
darn... internet lags so hard...
 
5:53 PM
@MsYvette Who knows! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg \o
 
user3956566
when I saw bags of cats and chickens, it made me think of our cats getting into our bag of cooked chicken last night.
 

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