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8:00 PM
@Sam I'm not falling for that, Captain Timesink
 
Sam
 
I'll just uh take your word for it
 
Well look at that. It doesn't really show up in the SO profile picture. Loses some res.
 
@Drew I'm all yours...
 
k
 
Sam
8:03 PM
@NathanOliver Yeah
 
user4639281
@Sam oh noez, now I have a virus.
 
user4639281
Wait, I'm using Linux, nvm.
 
FR: higher res avatars so Sam's avatar show up correctly.
 
Sam
Quick deletz it with MS paint!
 
user4639281
I'd rather delete MS paint, GIMP FTW!!!!
 
Sam
8:05 PM
I'd rather use RT
 
user4639281
whasat?
 
Sam
RawTherapee
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user4639281
Can it power an entire desktop environment?
 
Sam
:p
If Skeet's using it, probably.
 
user4639281
8:08 PM
GTK === GIMP Tool Kit === gnome's magic.
 
Tiny is a magicist. If it does not run on magic it's not good enough for him ;)
 
user4639281
Exactly.
 
user4639281
Gotta have magic, or it ain't worth it.
 
user4639281
That's why I don't use Windows, they try to pass their bugs off as magic, but they can't fool me.
 
user4639281
runs away
 
8:17 PM
So... did you now there was a tag ?
 
user4639281
they spelled it wrong...
 
tanuki == raccoon dog in japanese
 
@Tunaki I have actually use the tanuki service wrapper... its nice, I even seen SonarQubeâ„¢ use it
 
SonarQube does, yeah, I know.
 
8:22 PM
you can wrap your java code as windows service... avoiding c....
everything that avoids using c is good...
 
so, someone got a problem and the current answers don't work for him... instead of commenting it drops a bounty
 
have not find a dll wrapper yet... though..
 
@PetterFriberg You wouldn't happen to have a 5 score in would you? Synonym request: stackoverflow.com/tags/maven-shade-plugin/synonyms
 
@Braiam Link?
 
@Thaillie lol, you bounty hunter, you
 
8:25 PM
@MartinJames you do know we have this rule to hold back on one-boxes?
 
@Tunaki sorry.... if you retag some jasper-reports maybe...
 
run for your life, rene spotted a one-box
 
@rene I do now. Some owner please bin it:)
 
run for your life, rene spotted a one-box raccoon
 
8:26 PM
@sam I have 13 Jailbreakers to look at. You, MsYv and I can claw them back. sites.google.com/site/technologydrew/files
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
@rene Thks:)
 
np
 
@PetterFriberg Yep but I don't know any of them... I'll wait a bit.
 
8:28 PM
@Drew Do I go on c# to? it the same as java extends = :
 
you and Tuna get your own custom extracts. Moving over to now
 
\o/
 
@Drew I even have VS 2008 installed....
 
I have a synonym req pending too stackoverflow.com/tags/repeat/synonyms
 
bizspark my friend it's all free
 
8:30 PM
Anyway, job done for the day. Bye all
 
> You do not have the required score on this tag to vote for this tag synonym
 
Same.
 
Who the hell has score in
 
8:31 PM
@PetterFriberg Nope :(
Fine Let's wait then.
Bye all o/
 
Cya
 
@Tunaki Martijn Pieters
 
Rene passed a audit!
 
@BhargavRao Cya...
 
Sam
@Drew Ok
 
8:34 PM
oh @Sam I forgot, pull @AlexanderStepaniuk into it too. Those 13 are kinda easy imo
Because MsYv is probably off play online chess with someone an hour before she was yelling at :P
 
@rene, seen the trouble the close que, maybe it could be a good idea that SOCVR team took a session to evaluate and come up with ideas (how to reduce incoming crap, close more easily etc). Then if something good comes up post it as SOCVR team meta. Suggesting this since I think individual attempts probably are only doomed to fail, while maybe a stronger idea could come out if you put your heads together.
 
Sam
@Drew CV'd all. Closed 1, skipped 1, the rest are at 3 CVs.
 
@PetterFriberg Interesting suggestion. Let me give that some time to see how we can facilitate that
 
@PetterFriberg That'd be one hella nice topic for a meeting!
 
that ^
 
8:45 PM
@PetterFriberg Yep. Good idea.
 
Do Teams have discussion pages?
and can a Team post a message on Meta?
 
Sam
@TylerH Nope
 
Two birds with one stone on that one
 
I think that would lend weight to the ideas but also letting teams post in meta could be a nightmare, on the other hand
afk annual health screening
 
@TylerH Rene can and reefer to team...
 
Sam
8:51 PM
@Yam die
 
Yam
Bye.
 
I don't think posting will be an issue, getting your heads together will be, but if you manage you will have force.
 
The force is strong with you.
 
Don't leave a Sam unattended,
A small, concentrated, FURIOUS bomb
Of raw creative energy!
No good from unattended Sam.
(Inspired by now having a creepily clever bot over in the ministry. Damn.)
 
Sam
I'm left unattended all day...
 
JAL
8:55 PM
Thoughts on this answer? stackoverflow.com/a/35145443/2415822
Also, I have a bunch of votes left if anyone has a list of flags that are about to expire (cc @drew)
 
cool, and thx for that one a few hours ago
 
@JAL First sentence is here to say, "no repro". Second sentence might be an answer but is barely more than a comment.
 
didn't do unnoticed @JAL
 
@JAL Not flag-worthy
 
@JAL Basically the answer is saying "No problem with shown code, error is elsewhere"
 
JAL
8:56 PM
meh
 
@Tunaki Yeah. Still an answer though =/
 
JAL
drew looking for you list now
 
Question should be closed as No MCVE. But da bounty.
 
@Tunaki sigh
 
@JAL I'm tempted to flag. But I'm out of flags anyway.
 
JAL
9:00 PM
@Drew finished your c# spreadsheet, most only need one more flag now
 
thx Boss
 
JAL
you got it, thank you for organizing everything!
 
Sam
^
I'll make sure to put in a good word with the waffle maker for ya.
 
JAL
When the bots take over Drew will be spared
 
user4639281
9:02 PM
@JAL It is a horrible attempt to answer the (apparently unanswerable) question. A very good signal that the question is no good.
 
Sam
@BhargavRao Nope
 
@BhargavRao Not sure.
 
Sam
Check this msg's history.
Yes, I checked the link.
 
@BhargavRao Finish it off and let's delete that crap.
 
user4639281
@Sam Uncaught NoComprendeException
 
9:03 PM
@Tunaki Done
Okie, Thanks all. (Got the link from my new userscript that I am writing)
Bye again o/
 
o/
 
Sam
o/
 
o/
 
@Sam Yeah, this is definitely better than the on there
 
user4639281
9:05 PM
 
@Drew I'm loaded with 34 votes. On your mark.
@TinyGiant -1, repost.
 
@TinyGiant Can't unsee the ostrich
 
@Drew loaded with 3 more then Tunaki... and ready...
@Tunaki How many to you get a day 100?
 
user4639281
@Kyll It's a signpost...
 
@TinyGiant Still
 
9:07 PM
@PetterFriberg 50, like everyone else... =(
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Come on, it is the best trainwreck meme.
 
user4639281
You don't get much better than a train on top of a train that is pressed up against a train.
 
java starting point sites.google.com/site/technologydrew/files (look for the java picture) ... btw we are doing cv2 and cv3 jailbreaks first
 
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9:09 PM
 
@Drew nice, there's an email address to spam. Thanks
 
user4639281
@Drew now I know your last name.
 
Had to hammer one. 33 left.
 
Later guys
 
9:17 PM
cya
 
JAL
night Nathan
 
Night!
 
JAL
^ spam or na?
question is too broad as well
 
SPAMS PAMS SPSPAP SMA SPAM SPAMS APSM FLAG AFL GLFAGL FLAG FALG AFL AG
 
@SmokeDetector vtc
 
9:23 PM
@Tunaki rolls head on Spamflag-layout keyboard
 
JAL
> My project isn't under source control.
-_-
 
Weird
After doubling my LDL from 2014, to 2015, I lowered it again over 43% from 2015 to 216
 
Real programmers don't use version-control. They don't need to. It's correct and bug-free with every feature on the first write.
 
Real programmers have more then 1 pc so they need it!
 
Real programmers use
 
9:33 PM
lol
 
Real programmers laugh at php as they are forced to use it
 
why not
 
depends, is that asp.net or asp classic?
 
@Tunaki Real programmers != Jon Skeet
 
the classic one Response.Write "Yeah I'm on IIS"
 
9:35 PM
@PetterFriberg @Tunaki @JAL the java jailbreak spreadsheet is up there
 
going
 
at it
 
JAL
thanks Drew, will look
 
I don't consider myself a real programmer... or a programmer... if anything I would be an enthusiast
 
you do those, and btw I have no guidance on any of them, then I will give you any extract next
gotta eat the meat and veggies before the dessert
 
9:38 PM
this is the first time I flagged a post so it gets locked on a specific revision...
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.10.0.4.
 
@Drew voted on practically all. Hammered 3. Had already voted on 1. 2 votes remaining.
 
great. I have like 40 left :)
 
Gonna hammer 2 in the CV queue.
 
I'm still on it... the myanmar was interesting I actually ask one my self.....
 
9:48 PM
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
but my question as better so I closed this one...
: )
 
And that's it.
 
who here has made a program that interfaces with a database?
 
prob everyone
 
I just noticed, reputation is also shown next to the user's name on home(?) page. Do you know at what point that started? Seems like I am just way too careless. =/
 
9:51 PM
who hasnt? :p
 
I'm out, time to drive home then back for TF2
 
might be a silly question, but is sending regular 'dummy' requests to the database normal to keep the connection open?
 
@Drew in first batch only 34879296 is remaining.
 
@gunr2171 \o/
 
Going in 3 cv part.
 
9:52 PM
@cybermonkey Why would you want to keep the connection open?
 
@cybermonkey ive never heard of such a thing. maybe youre thinking of connection pooling?
 
I even done a crazy jdbc driver....
 
^^ a connection pool is the usual approach
 
I'll rescan em and then give them the fair and balanced treatment they deserve
 
to access mdb-database on the web from local application
 
9:53 PM
@Tunaki my program constantly polls the database (and caching is useless here since it runs on multiple AWS instances in a load balancer)
just wondering what the best way to go about it without caching
 
it is common yes. Should you, no.
 
I believe the correct term is 'keep alive'
 
Yep but there's always a time-out
 
@Drew what should the best approach be (again, can't cache)
 
Too Broad. What is the context and db layer
 
9:56 PM
@Tunaki the keep-alive requests are designed to let the DB know that we still need to be connected
 
How are you accessing that DB?
 
there is this thing called a technology stack. Describe it and the biz need to keep it open
cuz doing so creates such a Sad Panda
 
@Drew the context is a master reporting server for gameservers (aka, gameservers report themselves, clients can log-in and get the list of servers for their game [usually done in the game client]), the DB engine is MySQL and is in VB.NET
 
mysql QQ
 
(the whole thing's going to be reprogrammed in a few months and the connection to the DB server is encrypted, so security isn't an issue here)
the program's also private and isn't public
 
9:59 PM
still way too high level for me
I have to spend 2 hrs ditching these CV
 
generally clients authenticate and retrieve server lists perhaps a few times a second
the reason the data can't be cached is because data stored changes significantly in a very short space of time
 
How many clients?
 
in a few months, I expect hundreds of requests each second, and the program is constantly being adapted for that (I'll probably eventually write some sort of per-second caching system).
 
show variables like '%timeout%'; <------ that is a mysql cmd line
in particular wait_timeout and interactive
but I gotta scoot
 
@Tunaki at the moment, there are 61 registered users, but servers don't need accounts and send their own pings with their data
 
10:05 PM
@Drew Voted on ALL (except the one I already voted on..), the last part needs a final push, 9 CV lefy
 
wait_timeout is 2592000 (30 days), but I'm getting 'MySQL server has gone away' errors, hmm..
 
@cybermonkey 'MySQL server was sick of your bullcrap and left'
3
 
@cybermonkey You can't have 61 open connections to the DB. Too much. You need to pool.
 
In certain pools there are system to close them automatically before timeout...
@Drew do you have more, or do I switch to review and call it a day?
 
if your timeout is set to 30 or 60 on normal hosting environment you are screwed. But with aws ec2 it is not an issue as you have control. stackoverflow.com/a/31429415
 
10:09 PM
I'm not hosting the db on ec2, I'm using a dedicated server hosted elsewhere for that.
 
then you need some tweakage either way
 
ec2 only hosts the main program
 
i suspected my gibberish had nothing to do with it. keep it on your shelf for another system ! — Drew Jul 15 '15 at 12:30
lol
 
@PetterFriberg yes I am available, I just mean I don't have time with 110 minutes left to debug a timeout issue
@PetterFriberg what can I feed you?
 
jasper report...
 
10:11 PM
when I've got more money I'll probably move the main program's hosting to the same hosting company I use to host the database server
 
java or c#
 
@Kyll @cimmanon can fix that problem; she loves MySQL >:-)
 
or mysql (sql)
 
how many votes left PF
 
10:12 PM
But if you want to keep a single connection to the DB, you have to have a connection (and the same) per client (otherwise, big concurrency issues)
 
a good connection pool solves every issue...
 
maybe I can give cyber one of my glassfish builds :P
 
@cybermonkey, what are you building is it public?
 
@PetterFriberg it's a private program
 
Sam
@Nor stop bot
 
10:19 PM
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
 
@Nordehinu waffle
8 CV
 
@Sam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@PetterFriberg I re-published the Jailbreak. See the bottom chunk added
 
@Tunaki new maven question... are you hitting on it..
 
not that they are Jailbreak, but rather cv3 most poorly received.
 
10:29 PM
The answer to Skeet comment is
I asked my friend who's Java developer, he fully understood me but found no solution. So I ask here if someone more experienced would know the alternative solution of this, but seems like more experienced ones don't try even to understand. Read again please my code above, thas't I want to reach ;)) — Nichar yesterday
 
@PetterFriberg "Go learn Java"
 
user4639281
@Sam is Closey V2.0 recording session info yet?
 
@TinyGiant I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user4639281
@Closey starting
 
@TinyGiant By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
10:32 PM
Installing TS3 and coming
Urgh, still no proper package...
 
@Kyll upgrade your os!
K, home time
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Is closing the right tool for obsolete things?
@TylerH Linux Mint 17.3... Can't upgrade much more
 
@Kyll Unfortunately, we don't have tool for obsolete content, but it is off-topic and unmaintained.
 
user4639281
@Kyll Sure you can, install Fedora Rawhide.
 
user4639281
Someone just used a custom reason for:
 
user4639281
10:38 PM
> it's just a stupid question
 
Rob
Gday
 
user4639281
facepalm
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Yes/no. It loses the data if rebooted. Use current session stats to get the data while its available.
 
user4639281
@Rob Gday mate
 
Sam
Hey Rob
 
user4639281
10:39 PM
@Sam k
 
user4639281
I love being able to downvote stuff in the close vote queue, I can spend my votes that much faster.
 
@Drew done! 0 CV, check this its not so bad (if not a dupe) stackoverflow.com/q/35153463 and this stackoverflow.com/q/35131615 (even if strange I actually thinks it fits as question)
 
k ... I am right behind you on batch 26
 
user4639281
passed css audit
 
Tiny passed a audit!
 
10:41 PM
too bad the question this guy is referring to cant be closed due to bounty :-( meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/316012/…
 
Sam
Night humans/bots
 
nite Sam thx
 
user4639281
nite Sam thx
 
cya, I'm throwing in the towel as well, @Drew Thanks
 
user4639281
 
10:43 PM
Does warrant a tag?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara meta tag
 
@Kyll Well, at least that doesn't have any questions.
 
user4639281
I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate seriously dislike it when people use the debugging close reason for non-debugging questions.
 
Rob
@cimmanon That is a ridiculously long answer. Damn.
 
user4639281
10:47 PM
@cimmanon that he posted, to get his answer more attention.
 
Rob
Not sure if I'd be that cynical.. he posted the original answer 2 weeks ago and all (most) of his answers are quite detailed :)
 
@TinyGiant right like this one stackoverflow.com/q/35117852 that Petter and I don't need to get embarrassed on
oh wait, that is kinda different
 
user4639281
@Drew looks like a debugging question to me.
 
right, but I guess they think he didn't give enough
 
10:54 PM
@Drew That question for me is either missing [mcve] or to broad...
Whatever you choose (I think I went to broad (in the sense I have no idea of much information I need to give you so that you can understand) to be true)... but mcve seems fine aswell
 

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