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12:37 AM
Nurse Ratched : Well, anyway, this is no way to proceed about this. How would it be if we had a vote and let majority rule? — Drew 17 secs ago
 
1:07 AM
someday if I can delete stackoverflow.com/q/35094157
can Timex get a 1 year Question ban. He has already asked them all.
 
Sam
1:45 AM
Wow, that guy's asked loads of Qs.
 
2:15 AM
Batch of plagiarism-removing edits in the queue, if you're into that kind of thing :)
 
in a minute
 
!!/coffee
 
@intboolstring brews coffee for @intboolstring
 
2:34 AM
Cool - I've got a "hot Meta question"!
 
Sam
Congrats
 
Now if only one of my SO answers would do that... sigh.
 
about 5 pending edits from UNDO could use an approval stackoverflow.com/users/1849664/undo?tab=activity
if you are so inclined
 
3:06 AM
@Undo Been doing some of that myself - would rather see new content, though.
 
@Mogsdad Oh, definitely. The way I see it is that we can encourage people to create legit content by giving them a blank space to put it in.
I don't think it's reasonable to require an expert in the field (there's no way I can write original content for half this stuff) to get rid of plagiarism.
Well, I could fake it, but that'd probably be worse :P
 
Yeah, not easy, certainly. I replaced plagiarized content on the wiki & excerpt earlier. I'm no expert, but the new, original content defines what the tag is for & points to more info - I figure that's the bare minimum for a "good" tag wiki.
 
3:38 AM
!!/alive
 
@intboolstring Kinda sorta
 
@WaiHaLee do you have SD privileges?
 
Pretty sure I don't.
 
I had assumed I'd need to be more active to have somebody suggest I was.
!!/amipriviliged
 
3:43 AM
typo
!!/amiprivileged
 
@Drew Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
dumb spelling
not u. the word
 
!!/amiprivileged
 
@WaiHaLee No, you are not a privileged user.
 
you seem active enough to me. I don't even like to use smokey. All hell can break out
@rene @sam can you please add wai to smokey please
 
3:47 AM
I'll do it.
 
about to say it. thx
 
@WaiHaLee You should have privileges now. Just remember:
Dec 20 '15 at 21:42, by Tiny Giant
Notice: Smokey is for tracking spam, and offensive content. It is not for stalking regular users who happen to exhibit behaviors that you disagree with. If you see some behavior that you disagree with, please do not blacklist the user with smokey, instead use a custom moderator flag and explain what you think the problem is. This room is about content, not users.
 
4:00 AM
!!/amiprivileged
 
@WaiHaLee Yes, you are a privileged user.
 
Thx Undo
 
Aha! Thanks for adding/trusting me. I'll be sure to stick to the rules.
 
do you're best. No one is perfect. Just like my spelling of your
 
... and to learn to spell "privileged" (especially since one of my three meta posts are about spelling).
 
 
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user3956566
5:41 AM
@Drew you have some posts you want me to review?
 
user3956566
oh and hi :D \o
 
perhaps !
 
user3956566
hehe
 
I seriously need to recruit some mysql people
I have a logjam of cv4 rotting
 
user3956566
for the record, you can rely on me to review a list for you every day, I'm happy to work like that. As I like to vote on posts with 3-4 cvs
 
user3956566
5:43 AM
I have some mysql experience
 
user3956566
just worked on a project using mysql
 
cool I will shoot over a few in like 10. Go play for a bit :P
 
user3956566
not an expert
 
user3956566
ping me bud
 
5:54 AM
this thing is just unclear. Doesn't matter that someone took a stab at it. Awful Q stackoverflow.com/q/34836741
 
user3956566
yeh that was unclear to me, I think the images just made it more confusing
 
It just should not be a model question for group_concat. Yikes. Like we wanna see that thing for years.
dupe or too broad. I went dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/34846000
 
user3956566
yep
 
speaking of which, this is a duplicate, same concept stackoverflow.com/questions/34855015
everyone is swinging unclear on this one. Better be sitting down stackoverflow.com/q/34869864
 
user3956566
done @Drew
 
6:03 AM
btw the canonical two up on the dupe is darn good cuz it mentions _max_len
 
user3956566
yeh I had a look at two possible dupe targets.
 
which people always barf on for hours
trying to figure out
typo/cannot, see my comment stackoverflow.com/q/34881142
10 days ago. Thing sits at cv4. Pathetic
 
user3956566
and 3+ votes
 
@MsYvette Thanks! :)
 
user3956566
@Undo :)
 
6:08 AM
Really, there's so much of this crap I'm probably not even making a real dent.
Three or four of us could do this and it'd take us months to get through the backlog
 
user3956566
@Undo you can give me a list, if you need rollbacks on plagiarism..
 
user3956566
Are you referring to the posts with 4 cvs or the plagiarise tag wikis or both
 
@MsYvette Plagiarism
 
I went unclear, others went too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/34883420
 
user3956566
Give me a list if you need some reveiwed @Undo
 
user3956566
6:09 AM
I have time atm
 
Ok that is the last of mysql. I am switching views to c# ... that bought me time thx
 
user3956566
@Drew ok
 
@MsYvette I don't think there are any pending right now, and it's late enough that I don't trust myself to do anything other than mindlessly flag Smokey spam
 
user3956566
@Undo ok.. can I ask, is there a query to see recently changes tag wikis?
 
@MsYvette Just a sec, I have one I've been using especially for this
^ That gives editors within the timeframe (change the -2 and -4 in the query) that create tag wikis without any links in them
Which is fairly strong signal
 
user3956566
6:11 AM
@Undo thanks, I'll make a point to review a few a day when I'm fresh and if I find some that are plagiarised, I'll edit
 
user3956566
you've got me at a good time, I have spare time.. and I'm relaxing.. before everything heats up again :)
 
user3956566
god the first one is plagiarised
 
oh, of course it is :)
 
too broad. 2 hours ago a vote eroded. No schema. No possible chance without index knowledge stackoverflow.com/q/34689378
best guess is a wild a** guess by anyone
 
user3956566
@Undo if I know what the tag means, I'm going to add my own wiki.. I am good at writing, I remember a few years back I had a tag rejected for plagiarism (i took it to meta) and it was well written so people assumed it was copied.. but I can assure you I don't do that... but reviewers can feel free to do a google check. :)
 
6:20 AM
@MsYvette Awesome :)
I mostly don't know anything about the field, so I just blank them out and move on.
I figure that if it's a high enough traffic tag for anyone to care, someone will fill the blank space.
 
user3956566
should I add an answer to your post stating that I'm doing these reviews?
 
user3956566
for things like 'suffix' it's pretty straight forward, for most technical tags, nope you need to be an expert hey
 
@MsYvette If you want to, it might help to have something to point to when someone inevitably calls us out on meta for bulk-editing or something.
 
user3956566
yes ok.. I'll post ans answer and explain why I'm posting it. And I'll add a permalink to our convo here.
 
TYPO or unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/34699197 see my comment
 
user3956566
6:26 AM
@SmokeDetector edited
 
user3956566
@Drew thnx the comments help
 
user3956566
6:41 AM
@Am_I_Helpful thnx
 
user3956566
@Undo the number of plagiarised tags is ridiculous, we need penalties
 
I honestly think people don't even have any idea
They see blank space, and think, let's fill it up
 
@MsYvette yup
I do think it needs to start with the reviewers.
 
user3956566
@Undo interestingly, I skip most wiki tag edit suggestions, as I figure, too hard, I'm not an expert, BUT, I will now check each one for plagiarised content and if it is reject it and link it here - if not, then skip.
 
That's what I generally do
I don't really know much about anything, so I do a lot of skipping
 
user3956566
6:50 AM
yes! same.. when Drew gives me cvs to review, sometimes it takes me a while to pick my way through them to work out if they're on topic or not.. it takes effort to moderate the site..
 
Plop!
 
user3956566
\o
 
user3956566
7:08 AM
if anyone has time and suggested edit votes, it would be good to get some reviews of these
 
@MsYvette Hmm...these are comments.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan Kevin, please follow think links in my edit reasons,
 
user3956566
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A: Let's stop tag wiki plagiarism

Ms YvettePosting a late answer after this discussion in chat with Undo in the SOCVR chat room. I'm helping to query wiki tag edits and check for plagiarism. If I find the content is plagiarized, as with this Screenshot: A google of: A suffix is something added at the end of a word that conditions i...

 
@MsYvette Okay let me check.
 
user3956566
trying to clean up plagiarized content on the site, and I cannot leave the excerpt blank, so I put in a basic excerpt to replace the plagiarised content
 
user3956566
done
 
@MsYvette Oh yeah, I agree with that plagiarism is Not Okay.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan this takes time for me to check each wiki etc and get the links, I don't want people to reject them.
 
user3956566
thanks
 
7:28 AM
@MsYvette Hmm...can't we have a user-script, which can do this automatically (before this issue fixed)? Report if it find something use Google?
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan Undo has a good idea about how to manage this and from what I can see, we just need to use our moderation tools at this stage.
 
@MsYvette Okay, fair enough.
 
user3956566
@Drew not seeing it?
 
@MsYvette Is this suggested edit good or not? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11081636
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan no, they are replacing the tag with an inferior tag and the rest is minor
 
7:35 AM
@MsYvette Thanks, rejected as no improvement whatsoever.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan yeh, or irrelevant tags
 
@MsYvette Yeah, that one.
 
user3956566
@Drew homework question
 
user3956566
7:40 AM
when the top voted answer starts with
 
user3956566
> not sure whether I have understood your requirement...
 
user3956566
@Drew thanks for the heads up :)
 
get ready for this mcve stackoverflow.com/questions/35079458
I went with other closure reason from Matias stackoverflow.com/questions/35080659
 
user3956566
@Drew I said POB
 
user3956566
7:46 AM
@Drew can't decide, not voting on that one
 
don't blame ya
 
user3956566
@Drew thnx, the warning ameliorates the trauma :)
 
you shoulda seen the deleted answer
 
user3956566
I will before the year is out! :)
 
I know you will
 
user3956566
7:48 AM
the laugh will be on me if it is for wiki tag edits! O>O
 
Morning o/
 
user3956566
\o
 
\o/
 
@MsYvette I have not even looked at these two 4's: stackoverflow.com/questions/35080004 ,,, stackoverflow.com/questions/35096403
 
user3956566
I may get into trouble for asking twice.. anyone with tag wiki edit votes please feel free to review these I don't want to get a pleth of robo reviewers rejecting them. there are links with the meta post explaining the edits
 
user3956566
7:59 AM
@Drew done, I need to go offline for a bit. Mum things to do :)
 
ok thanks a million
I need a friend loop
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara hm yeh voted
 
user3956566
@Drew I'll be back later, so feel free to post lists and ping me
 
I'll wait til I see ya next. Thanks a ton. You helped me win a set of steak knives.
 
8:52 AM
When was this added?
 
What was the bad keyword?
@Thaillie asked 7 mins ago
 
That ^^
 
educba?
Okay.
Doesn't it reply to me? :P
 
That only works on the report message.
 
Oh thanks...
Nice.
 
user3956566
9:10 AM
@Drew honey I'm home \o
 
user3956566
9:39 AM
ok I'm getting rejects for these from auto reviewers who can't be bothered to read the edit reason
 
10:04 AM
Morning \o
 
Morning Kay o/
 
user3956566
o/
 
Morning @Thai \o
This is typo isn't it?
My flag got disputed.
 
user3956566
should I have used sd k on that? ^^
 
Yep
 
user3956566
10:17 AM
everyone must be asleep
 
Yep :p
 
sd postgone time on that ?
 
Hiya :)
 
Le Tuna \o
 
user3956566
\o
 
10:28 AM
o/
 
user3956566
@Tunaki I'm looking for some support with this I'm getting some people jsut rejecting all my edits and I spent a couple of hours going through it. If you disagree feel free..
 
reading
 
user3956566
I'm going to need community support to do it.
 
user3956566
\o Sam
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster \o
 
Sam
10:33 AM
Hiya
 
mornin'
 
user3956566
Sam have a look at the link I posted above to Tunaki ^^
 
user3956566
how are you CC?
 
wet
 
user3956566
same here!
 
10:34 AM
it rains, and I had to bring my bike in for maintenance, walk all the way back :P
and you?
 
Sam
@MsYvette Ok
 
user3956566
we had a big late afternoon summer storm
 
user3956566
ok I get nervous when I try to implement things on SO and you get people who just disagree, but don't offer anything better
 
@MsYvette I'm about to make a big edit. Feel free to rollback
 
user3956566
@Tunaki thanks
 
10:36 AM
done
 
user3956566
thanks duck
 
@MsYvette Duck?
 
user3956566
yeh, like thanks duckie or ducks, it's an Aussie thing :)
 
Mainly, I put the bottom paragraphs to the top, grouped them to [what you will do], then [here's an example], then [why is this post here]
 
user3956566
like possum, or blossom or love
 
10:38 AM
Erm... ok :p
 
Sam
@MsYvette +1
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yeh I saw, much better, you know I'm not good at organising these things.. I tend to add bits
 
@MsYvette not to be a nitpick or anything, but it's "its"! :P
(regarding your tag edit screenshot)
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster oh dam LOL
 
Sam
Proactivism ftw
 
10:39 AM
@CodeCaster Oh that's so awesome. Big typo in a screenshot. I love it.
 
user3956566
@Thaillie Australian's are rarely content with addressing people by their names!
 
user3956566
ftw? nevermind found it :)
 
user3956566
@Sam it's just that the world has the ability to reject it all, making the time spent worthless...
 
So anyway what keeps you people happily reviewing
Once I've reviewed like five items I've had my share for the week
 
I'm here for the free waffles. That's what keeps me reviewing.
 
user3956566
10:43 AM
OCD I think
 
Sam
@MsYvette Yeah, ik. But at least you're doing something about it. Instead of just sitting there spouting off opinions on how to fix the issue.
 
user3956566
thanks Sam
 
heh
I've got a and "duplicate" filter so I can finish items from the queue at once using Mjölnir anyway
 
user3956566
I have a illness that makes it hard for me to get out and about, so it gives me a purpose in my spare time. OCD
 
Sam
@CodeCaster Knowing that we're making a small corner of SO decent quality-wise.
 
10:44 AM
And the coffee also. Although Sam hasn't improved its quality when he said he'd do it.
 
user3956566
Tunaki you said you were the room waiter? Or is Sam the barista?
 
Sam
@Tunaki Yeah... the premium stuff's still in transit.
 
user3956566
also we tend to have fun in here CC.. some really nice people in here and it can be hilarious
 
spam people, flag as spam
 
yeah but isn't it like an uphill battle? As you may have noticed from my meta.SO posts (if you've read them) I might be suffering from SO fatigue. Maybe just need a timeout. :P
 
Sam
10:47 AM
Ofc, it'll undoubtedly always be this way.
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster well, if there aren't people who care about the things we all care about (yourself included) the site really will go to the dogs..
 
Sam
I can't see that the thousands of people with CV privs will all decide to help out.
 
user3956566
the internet has obliterated knowledge in some ways
 
Sam
But, at least we are.
 
And we're doing our best to clean with the tools we have at our disposal. Or at least we try to.
 
user3956566
10:48 AM
@CodeCaster yeh if you come here, you will feel refreshed.. even if you don't review
 
user3956566
I felt that way until I found this room CC
 
user3956566
we're not alone
 
:P ty
 
Sam
We've even got a few bots to help out, as you've probably noticed.
 
user3956566
has CC met hatman?
 
10:50 AM
yeah I fell in love with Smokey immediately
 
user3956566
me too!
 
user3956566
@TheLittleNaruto hi \o
 
♥ Smokey ♥
 
Sam
@MsYvette No, he's not really related to this room anyway. ;)
 
@MsYvette who?
 
user3956566
10:50 AM
I love his unicorn avatar though.. I don't like the generic one they use in other places O.O
 
Sam
@CodeCaster Just a funbot.
 
@MsYvette hey o/
 
Sam
Doesn't do anything helpful.
 
user3956566
@Sam I know, but I thought he may cheer up CC in the other room
 
@MsYvette There is a generator for those icons :)
 
10:51 AM
the "skibby dibby do dab" scatman?
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster ?
 
user3956566
CC finally has lost it
 
user3956566
ah
 
Anyone mind look at my answer for any edit possibilities please?
Although I'm unsure if I'm allowed to ask for inhere
 
Sam
10:53 AM
Asking for edits is perfectly fine.
Votes, not so much.
 
Sam
@kayess Reading
 
user3956566
@kayess looks good
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster I like you popping in here, it's nice to have such a long time member of SO to chat to...
 
Oh deer. I think I've got myself an audit: stackoverflow.com/review/close/11083132 where the system added the C# tag
yay passed
 
10:57 AM
LoL
 
that was a good one, actually
@MsYvette I can't do it on work days tho
 
@kayess fixed a couple of typos but it's really good
 
user3956566
@CodeCaster understandable
 
@Tunaki thank you very much!
 
user3956566
I have a break before uni starts and before I do more programming work.. so am enjoying having time just to help with clean up tasks
 
Sam
10:59 AM
@kayess Kinda used a little too much backticking for just project names, and stuff like NuGet, etc.
 

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