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1:02 PM
Morning
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
passed java audit
 
@KevinGuan Actually I have no idea, let me ask the person who implemented it.
 
@ProgramFOX Okay
 
1:07 PM
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 29 secs ago, by ProgramFOX
@NormalHuman ^ I got asked this, but actually I have no idea myself :P Would you want to give an answer?
 
@BhargavRao A Python question: How to check the spaces before other things? For example I have string ' te st', the output should be 4 since there's only 4 spaces before te st (startswith). I can only use re.match(' +', text).end, but however if it's 0 then it'll return None instead of 0, also I don't want use re in this case. Any ideas?
 
So you want 0 for ''?
 
Yep, also for 'asd asd', but 1 for ' asd asd'.
I hope it's clear enough :P
 
First thought - use lstrip() ... len(s) - len(s.lstrip(' '))
 
Ouch, why I didn't try this.
 
1:11 PM
Haven't tested it. Just wrote it on the go.
 
Ah, no need test. Works great.
 
BhargavRao doesn't code, the code BhargavRaos.
 
Lol ....
 
Too bad either Jon Rao of Bhargav Skeet sounds equally not rhyming to me :-\
 
It sounds awkward :D
 
1:18 PM
We better tell Jon Skeet that he needs to pass off his crown :-)
 
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Plop @Mogs
 
Hey, kayess!
 
That sad moment when you need to pay for registration but all you have is Unicorn Dollars. :(
 
user3956566
1:37 PM
I just got a link only answer to my question..
 
@MsYvette Which I would vtc as too broad :|
 
user3956566
@Kyll I edited it
 
user3956566
I don't think it's too broad there's similar questions about phone gap
 
user3956566
and they have decent answers
 
user3956566
it's a real question and a concern for the platform
 
1:43 PM
Asking whether or not a development strategy (here, cross-platform dev) has an impact on performance or user experience is incredibly broad.
 
user3956566
it would be a good idea to have a definitive answer. Of course there's performance differences for different activities, but there would be a trend I would think.
 
user3956566
Not at all. as it has to be translated or whatever happens to it
 
user3956566
it's not in the native language
 
user3956566
so it involves an extra step in the compiling process
 
Hmm...today I saw someone's suggested edit, it edited: This is spam, just delete it....I rejected it as: If it is, then flag it as spam is enough. and report it to Smokey.
 
user3956566
1:45 PM
problem is I don't understand all those workings, but there's plenty of people who do here
 
user3956566
If you don't know about mobile development, then it's better not to vote on it
 
user3956566
@Ike I had that same issue and code blocks with C
 
@Ms Y Im doing native , even my view manipulation works and optimized it still sucks for lower spec device , how much more in cross platform
 
user4842163
@MsYvette Found an answer for him? Maybe a comment would be appreciated there.
 
user3956566
@Ike I need to think.. I used the universities online command line
 
user3956566
1:49 PM
and then I can't remember if I used visual studio and code blocks or Dev c++
 
user3956566
prob code blocks
 
@MsYvette Aside from the many link-only and VLQ answers this will receive, a good answer would have to look into many use-cases for said development platform, analyze them all, go into the defects (which will be fixed in time) of each platform, and do an extensive analysis and research on that. While I understand your concern about performances, asking "will using foo tool cost me performance" without a very specific use-case and an existing analysis and profiling of your needs is too broad.
 
user4842163
@MsYvette I love VS IDE debugger -- but don't like any debugger used through command line -- too hardcore for me.
 
user3956566
@Kyll you don't know that. I can get you links. I didn't link them as they're about phone gap. there may be a clear and definitive answer.
 
@MsYvette For example?
 
user3956566
1:53 PM
@Ike oh I loved it. Valgrind was my best friend.
 
user3956566
@Kyll it's nearly 1 am here
 
user3956566
just vote to close it
 
user4842163
I think any kind of cross-platform or cross-hardware development will tend to carry a practical performance cost.. for the simple reason that we don't have a single target to optimize and debug against.
 
user3956566
if it means that much to you
 
user3956566
@Ike phone gap was known to be horrible and xamarin is supposed to be super
 
user3956566
1:54 PM
but my course seems to have a lot of MS centered subjects
 
user3956566
so I am dubious
 
user3956566
as there's this pressure to convert everything to cross platform and C#, but I am uneasy with this
 
user3956566
and almost nothing on android
 
@KevinGuan No idea about the report, but the general difference is that non-English languages can use Latin characters. Think French, which uses broadly the same Latin char set as English, but is clearly not English.
 
@MsYvette well Unity3D is powered by C#
 
user4842163
1:56 PM
Ah -- the general subject of targeting a single piece of hardware interests me... since I look at lots of bugs all the time coming from just, say, GPU driver incompatibilities, having to target older versions of SSE, etc. It's hard to fully exploit one piece of hardware to the fullest with others to always keep in mind.... I envy devs who can just target PS 4, e.g.
 
user3956566
There's this @Ike rin — A C# implementation that targets iOS, Android, and Windows Phone. Using Xamarin Studio, you can write your entire app in C# and compile it down to native bytecode.
 
user4842163
oh neat
 
@MsYvette thats true but not perfect
 
user3956566
@neferpitou this is what I need to know
 
@ArtOfCode Then why we need both of them? Isn't only one enough?
 
user3956566
1:58 PM
as there's this pressure to change all the development over to xamarin
 
user3956566
@Ike I just don't know enough about hardware..
 
@MsYvette you will end up in one sided developement
 
One sided? As in?
 
user3956566
@neferpitou possibly
 
@kayess reality :3
 
user3956566
2:03 PM
@Kyll inserted some links into the question, though there's many more.
 
@neferpitou like what?
 
user4842163
@MsYvette What were you doing before this Xamarin -- writing native code directly in C for each mobile platform?
 
@kayess I cant provide a really detailed example. Apology
 
@neferpitou alright, apologies accepted. :-)
 
tnx
 
user3956566
2:06 PM
@Ike I haven't used xamarin yet
 
user3956566
I have been studying and the main work I've done is with android and some web
 
user3956566
my android is all self taught
 
user3956566
all else is at university
 
user3956566
ironic
 
user3956566
I've used C# a lot with uni and with some work
 
user3956566
2:07 PM
and the web work I've done has been varied, mainly maintenance of old sites. trying to clean up code
 
user3956566
Anyway I'm going to bed.. and either the question will be decimated or not.,,
 
user3956566
night all
 
user4842163
@MsYvette Oh I see... this Xamarin one looks nice just at a glance, but seems like something you have to marry.
 
night
 
user4842163
gnight
 
user3956566
2:10 PM
@Ike exactly, I want to do a background check before we get engaged ;)
 
user3956566
\o
 
user3956566
Love you all, miss you !!! even you @Kyll even though u dnt like my Q!
 
Sam
Night
 
@MsYvette This one is obviously off-topic for being a tool rec, this one is very POB and too broad. Answers on both barely touch the surface of each topic. The best answer on the first one was last updated 3 years ago so most of what's said about tools is probably outdated, the others relate experiences or explain a few differences between the different tools.
On the second one, the best answer barely tells of a few elements to take into consideration and the other answers are not really worth talking about
 
Night
 
2:11 PM
@MsYvette Well at least I'm giving constructive criticism, right? Good night!
=p
 
Sam
?
 
@Sam Nevermind.
 
user4842163
2:25 PM
Kind of a goofy Q, but why does performance become such a concern for mobile dev?
 
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's ArtOfCode's fault.
 
user4842163
The more limited nature of the hardware is obvious, but I also don't see so many mobile apps doing really performance-intensive stuff.. like I don't see people running scalable servers on a mobile phone, or doing raytracing on a mobile phone, or doing scientific simulations of billions of particles on a mobile phone.... I do see them showing very graphical stuff in real-time with animations and sound -- maybe there? But I'd imagine a lot of the grunt work for those are handled by the API.
 
Probably the 3D games are enough for being called performance intensive.
 
user4842163
Yeah, game dev is always pushing the hardware.
 
2:28 PM
Even ordinary users git pissed when a crappy app lags
Hello uninstall :3
 
user4842163
I see -- like just basic UI responsiveness when pushing a button, starting up?
 
having unresponsive UI is critical to business.
that is considered high priority
 
user4842163
ah yeah -- though I always imagined the critical aspects of UI gruntwork (ex: SVG rasterization, image blitting, etc), if using something like Xamarin, e.g., would be handled by some native implementation behind an API that's optimized to smithereens.
 
Im not exactly sure how does the Xamarin thing does this thing behind the hood, I think thats a good point
 
user4842163
for performance I'm always looking for the loopy stuff -- so if an application is slow, I'm always wondering where the loops are that process like hundreds of thousands to millions of things... most common loopy stuff for a user-end GUI app would be image processing loops... but typically those are buried under an API
 
2:36 PM
<-- me, concern on Threading and unnecessary Object creation
 
user4842163
ah -- for me similar... but after I've identified the loopy work that needs to be done
 
as much as possible I dont create to many objects or do any expensive task in the main thread cuz you will block the Rendering
 
user4842163
I work mainly in C so "Objects" becomes replaced by "memory"
 
user4842163
but similar strategy... instead of object pools, memory pools
 
user4842163
and a desire to keep contiguous memory layouts... avoid excessive memory allocs
 
2:38 PM
@KevinGuan based purely on that reasoning, we don't need both - but there just might be a reason that someone put both in.
 
@ArtOfCode Ah, thanks. However, a gift for you:
13 mins ago, by SmokeDetector
@KevinGuan It's ArtOfCode's fault.
:P
 
How nice of you, Smokey. Remind me to do the same for you, sometime :)
In fact, lemme go steal your code first :)
 
:P
!!/blame
 
@KevinGuan It's Sam's fault.
 
Great, I think @Sam will has this feature soon.
 
Sam
2:44 PM
:p
Cya
 
3:03 PM
Sleep time! Night everyone!
 
night
 
user4842163
 
user4842163
^^ The author's code produces the correct output on 3 separate compilers.
 
4:07 PM
@SmokeDetector wat
"Black magic" triggers SD?
 
@MadaraUchiha There has been a spam wave of black magic spam on SE, so it's been added as a keyword.
 
4:26 PM
@ProgramFOX Is "white magic" whitelisted?
 
No. :P
 
user4639281
I usually just stick to plain old Magicâ„¢.
 
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 17 secs ago, by Normal Human
@ProgramFOX Non-Latin = does not use Latin alphabet at all, e.g., Persian. Non-English = may have Latin characters, but there are enough of characters not in A-Za-z range (e.g., diacritical marks) to suggest that the text is not in English.
@KevinGuan ^
 
user4639281
4:47 PM
@MsYvette ^^^?
 
5:21 PM
reminded me immediately of time 4:35 in the following video youtube.com/watch?v=AhY9tj7xBH4 ... the part about don't vote to close unless blah da dee blah
 
evening all
 
bye bye
 
Hi Jon
 
How'd your hour of fun go yesterday? :p
 
Very well
We had a full hour of almost only one-boxes ...
 
6:01 PM
@cybermonkey you could provide a link to the tag wiki: stackoverflow.com/tags/lua/info that has a bunch of links to useful resources
 
This is a Q&A site, we have rules here and questions must be about programming- see How to Ask. I downvoted your question because it is unclear, I will remove the downvote once you have made your question clear. — cybermonkey 1 min ago
 
if it becomes clear I'm sure we can find a dupe...
 
@rene done
also, this is NAA, isn't it (link-only)?
 
@cybermonkey it is a cornercase. Without the links it still answers the question
in a bad and unuseful way but it still answers
This is an example where the question is at fault, not the answer
 
other posts of the question's OP are low-quality as well, and there's an answer from July. OP obviously still doesn't get how to use the site. Pointed them to How to Answer & How to Ask.
 
6:11 PM
Yo
 
@warspyking yeah, so the reason behind those upvotes were because your answer was being discussed in here :)
 
Oh okay
 
it's a shame the question isn't great
 
what, good news in this room for once ?
 
But my answer though
 
6:12 PM
Exactly as @cybermonkey said.
 
What was wrong with it?
 
@warspyking it had two links, what if the other end of the link suddenly stops working?
 
yeah, your answer's decent. just that at the beginning it was borderline link-only (most of the answer was located at the links you provided)
 
Or did my edit fix it? I swear I was just trying to help the dude, I recently had the same problem.
 
yeah, your edit fixed it
 
6:14 PM
@kayess Well if the readme link breaks I really don't know, but I doubt it will
 
doesn't matter how much someone needs help, we're a Q&A site about programming. the scope of what we can talk about is quite limited.
 
trust us
 
If the lua-users link breaks then they are no binaries anyway
 
there's also 'too broad', where the question asks too much or lacks sufficient information to answer the question. that's what happened to this question
 
@cyber I am aware how SE works
 
6:15 PM
true, but still, link-only answers are discouraged
 
not only can the link go down, but maybe 10 to 20 % of the time the targets are dubious, ... moreover, why have people traipse all over the place for info just because one is LAZY about it
 
user4639281
The point is that you should include the relevant parts of the link in your answer, in such case that the link does break.
 
Hyia :D
 
Teanaki \o|
 
user4639281
Hyia :D
 
6:16 PM
@Tunaki hiya Tunaki :)
 
@Tiny I know that too, I didn't though, because I don't know HOW to build Lua, and didn't want to accidentally give him false information
 
user4639281
@warspyking Well if you don't know if the information is correct or not, why are you supplying it as an answer?
 
No, I know the readme is correct
 
Rep cough rep^H^H^H^H^H.
 
I just don't know how to build it myself, and wouldn't want to misinterpret the readme, and give him false info
 
6:17 PM
Day 20 was kinda tricky :D
 
Kayess If I wanted rep I'd learn JQuery lol
 
If you aren't sure if an answer's correct, you should ask the OP of the question if the solution works for them. If they report back that it does, then write a full answer
 
:-)
 
@cyber And in the process earn a bunch downvotes and possible get my answer deleted.
 
I'm out, gnite fellows.
 
6:19 PM
Night @kayess o/
 
Which has happened to me before
 
writing answers is apparently like writing software: Throwing spaghetti at the wall
3
 
(A different SE site though)
 
user4639281
@warspyking No he means actually in the form of a comment, not in the form of an answer.
 
@warspyking well no. you write a comment with the brief outline of your answer (e.g. have you tried x?)
then if the OP says that it works for them, then write an answer
never write an answer if you're not sure if it answers the question
 
6:20 PM
@cyber Which is precisely why I didn't give him information directly
And linked him to correct info
 
@warspyking you still wrote an answer though before confirming if it worked
 
@cyber I knew the readme worked though
And I knew the binaries worked
As I HAVE used them
 
true
 
user4639281
The readme doesn't say anything about building lua on windows.
 
Anyway are we done yet? Not to be rude but I have things I do, I only check SO for new Lua questions every now and then.
 
6:23 PM
and you did say that you have no idea how to build the Lua binaries
 
Well @tiny That's why I provided binaries.
 
user4639281
> Lua doesn't come built when you download it
 
user4639281
That's kind of misleading then.
 
How is it?
When you download Lua it isn't built, you have to build it yourself. Or get a binary.
 
user4842163
Ooh, Lua answer.
 
user4639281
6:25 PM
You're telling the user he needs to build it because it doesn't come built, then linking him to a page which doesn't tell him how to build it on windows, then you link him to a prebuilt packacge.
 
@TinyGiant I tell him that he has to build Lua because it died come built. I then link him to how. In addition to that he can 'alternatively' get a binary.
I don't see a problem with this
 
user4639281
SO basically the only relevant part of your answer is:
 
user4639281
> you could download a binary from lua-users, find a list here: lua-users.org/wiki/LuaBinaries
 
user4842163
@warspyking I think your answer is not bad but the question is a bit OT.
 
No, the first part is still relevant
Future readers may need to build it
 
user4842163
6:27 PM
@warspyking To give a thorough answer you'd have to know what compiler he uses, teach him about the static and dylib options, etc. -- and then it starts to get pretty broad even with those details.
 
user4639281
Not relevant to the question asked, as it does not tell the op how to build it on windows, which is what the question asked.
 
sigh I have him as much info as I could given what he asked of us. Is that a crime or something?
Gave*
 
no no. Just remove our emotions from it, and forget we wrote it, just, what state is a best answer left in
 
user4842163
I think your answer is okay in the context of the question -- it's the question that's the problem..with a question that basic which pretty much needs an off-site resource, that's about all we can do is link them to the basic answer on the site.
 
user4842163
"How do I build Lua?" -- the thorough answer is in the site's instructions.
 
user4842163
6:29 PM
As well as the repos which contain pre-built binaries and so forth.
 
@Ike I agree, but if my answer is bad I can go find a link to a windows tutorial or something
 
user4842163
As a result your answer is totally appropriate for the question but it becomes inappropriate (from strict SO standards) as a result of the question being inappropriate.
 
user4842163
Though I agree in general that this is probably a question on the minds of many people when they start using Lua... unfortunately it's kind of too basic/general/broad to cover by the site's standards -- when you have to reach for links to do most of the grunt work, that should be a sign.
 
True, but it's a natural tendency of mine to help people with Lua stuff as much as I can
 
user4842163
Yeah -- there's an awkwardness there... especially since there aren't that many Lua people around! I love Lua myself -- use it LuaJIT embedded in all my projects now.
 
6:39 PM
I'm a huge fan of Lua and user it whenever applicable
 
just keep doing what you are doing warspy
 
It's a great, fast, easy-to-use language that I've spent years with
 
user4842163
It might actually be helpful to edit the Lua tag wiki to guide people for these kinds of basic questions.. I think that would be okay, no? (room question)
 
I don't think any other languages would quite fit the same way Lua does with me. Not that I can't find things I'd change though.
 
user4842163
... especially since your links are fairly official Lua sources (with the first one being the source of Lua itself).
 
6:42 PM
Anyway I better get going
See-ya
 
user4842163
cheers
 
the LUA tag wiki has a bunch of links. I don't know that I would do more than create one more specific link under Useful Links
 
user4842163
programmers.se is intense!
 
user4842163
Complex engineering topics, design decisions, perspectives.... always debatable, and combined with hardcore moderation.
 
user4842163
@Drew Ah, you're right. Maybe such questions would ideally just point (in comments) to the existing wiki.
 
user4842163
6:53 PM
how do we close that?
 
user4842163
it does really feel OT, but I don't know what reason to state... the answers boil down to "yes/no" with a bit of evidence
 
you can pick "product recommendation" on the basis that it's asking for a tool which support a feature
 
user4842163
cool -- that seems most in line with the nature of the Q
 
7:12 PM
@TinyGiant how?
 
user4639281
@Braiam Fancy userscript + Magicâ„¢
 
@Braiam Closed tickets get removed from the room
 
user4639281
@Braiam I made a script that checks all the requests for their current status and any requests linking to a closed or deleted question will be moved to the cv request graveyard.
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant yeh I love how there is only one person with tags in either platform voted on the close.
 
user4639281
@MsYvette I fail to see how it isn't too broad.
 
user3956566
7:24 PM
@TinyGiant there are three possible answers, there either is, isn't or it depends on the apis being used.
 
user3956566
It's a factual question
 
user3956566
and actually a valid question
 
I fail to forget how many years I programmed Android, Java, Eclipse, Device Emulators
 
user4639281
To me it looks like you would have to compare both things entirely. Being that both things are very large, I don't see how it can be objectively answered in a few paragraphs or less. It's like saying, "which is faster, ECMAScript or C++?" in many cases it will be faster to use one, but then in other cases it may be the opposite.
 
user3956566
@Drew you're not showing tags in the area.
 
7:27 PM
I am not showing tags in Scala. I do technical edits in books for Scala
So too for crypto
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant I mention the relevant features of the app I'm currently working on. So I don't see how it's not answerable.
 
If you would have showed a typical use case with code in java/xamarin/cordova and asked about their performance difference I think it could fly. In its current form I personally think it is too broad.
 
user3956566
I have shown a use case
 
user3956566
There is data out there, but I am unable to interpret what it means in regard to using the apps
 
user4639281
You've included a list of features that you would like compared. You haven't come up with an example in either language. Not to mention that if you did it would be a matter of using a benchmarking tool to find the performance difference for each example.
 
user3956566
7:30 PM
That is an example
 
user3956566
No, there are analytical tools
 
user3956566
to measure performance
 
user4639281
benchmarking is just a term used to refer to testing an example repeatedly to determine performance information.
 
user3956566
push notifications and location services are the major features and really any features could have been used as an example. It's either, yes it's slower, or no difference (possibly its faster) or yes there are differences but for different things, in which case then it's a case by case decision
 
user4639281
Anyways, I see no comparable example in your question. So you're asking for someone else to build an example that can be compared in either language and then compare them objectively and hope that it was the example you were thinking of.
 
user3956566
7:33 PM
@TinyGiant I'm sure there is. It's a whole new platform that is being pushed in some circles to replace native iOS and android development
 
user3956566
No I'm not asking anyone else to build anything
 
user4639281
 
user3956566
I'm asking for a android developer who has jumped ship and what is there experience, whether it be from developing or from having data
 
user4639281
Well without building anything you cannot objectively compare two things and provide statistics to backup the answer. Without that objectivity, the only answer you're going to get will be an opinion statement from someone who has used both.
 
you want a compare and contrast of native vs hybrid(s)
 
user4842163
7:35 PM
@MsYvette Might be possible to fly on programmers.se -- though not speaking with any confidence on the subject (they are incredibly strict)... it just seems like a lot of programmers.se questions do end up targeting requests for experienced answers, and not merely an encyclopedia answer, e.g.
 
user4639281
So it's either too broad, or primarily opinion based, or some combination of the two.
 
i was trying to force myself to write a more broad question. I failed
 
user4639281
inb4 a prog.SE user jumps in to say that those types of questions are off-topic on prog.SE
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant it has nothing to do with opinion, although people may express it as an opinion, but that is not what is asked, it is experience.
 
user3956566
@Ike it would be jumped on as cross posting
 
user4639281
7:37 PM
You're asking for an opinion based on experience.
 
user3956566
but not a bad idea
 
experience = POB (or those approx squiqqlies cant find em on keyboard)
 
user3956566
@Drew oh come on
 
user4639281
Either the data being compared can be backed up by information gathered through tests that can be confirmed, or not. The latter being opinion based.
 
user3956566
so expert experience is just opinion. so we should ignore text books
 
user4842163
7:38 PM
@MsYvette I always find this awkward -- experience/opinion... I have a slight fondness for POBs of the type that end up drawing on personal experiences.
 
user3956566
@Ike yeh, there's one user on SO who's opinion is valuable
 
user4639281
If it is based on statistical data, experience has nothing to do with it.
 
Doesn't look like we are going to get this settled ...
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant if you write the same app in both platforms, and there is a noticeable difference and customers are complaining, you don't need the actual back end data.
 
I am sure we can find some comments from the OP herself that informs people that certain types of questions render certain type of useless long etc Answers that Kyll was warning you about. But if we use that same advice from you, to you, you object. We are all doomed to double standards sometimes
 
user4842163
7:40 PM
@TinyGiant That's true.. but I think it's always a bit fuzzy -- even the basic aesthetics promoted by a language are based on the opinion (albeit experienced) of the designers of the language. I must admit I like the fuzzy zones -- the grey areas where I won't find answers very easily, except to appeal to the personal experiences of others who have been doing things for years.
 
user4639281
Yeah... I've provided my opinion on the subject and how you could improve the question to be on-topic. You can choose to do with that as you want.
 
user3956566
This is what was linked in the answer, so if anything it's a duplicate stackoverflow.com/questions/17134522/…
 
user3956566
@Drew don't talk about me like I'm not here
 
kinda funny, no ?
 
user3956566
You guys talk about pile on to Ops in questions, what about in here?
 
7:42 PM
well, I guess don't come in and call everyone out on it
 
user4639281
Alright, this is getting out of hand. It's been discussed, we all reviewed it to the best of our ability and have provided you with our reasoning behind closure. </end-discussion>
 
and scold them that they don't have your Tag experience, et al
 
@Drew we're done with it, STAP IT!
 
user4842163
Have you guys seen the new Star Wars?
 
user4639281
Not yet, can't wait.
 
7:45 PM
No, I don't go to movies where it seems you need to dress up
 
i wouldnt mind seeing it, but my husband laughed at me in a "why the hell would you want to see that piece of crap" kind of way
 
user4842163
I think I'll have to wait a while -- all these films come out months later in Japan.
 
user4639281
I always wait until there's a pirated dvd copy floating around somewhere.
 
user4842163
evil! :-D
 
user4639281
Man, I haven't paid for bits since I was 14.
 
7:47 PM
Hi
 
user4639281
Hi
 
user4842163
I like the experience of going to the cinema... gives me an excuse to go outside every once in a while.. plus here they let you drink wine and beer in the theater
 
user4842163
I usually end up getting drunk and missing the latter half of the film
 
user4639281
What, people actually go outside?
 
user4842163
7:48 PM
once every few months :-D
 
There's an outside? When did that happen?
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i went to see the rereleased original trilogy when they were all in the theatres at the same time with my little brother. took a movie purse full of junk food, my brother had a 2 lb bag of skittles. he had a stomach ache afterwards :p
 
user4639281
Alright, I have to get some work done. I'll be back in a bit.
 
user4842163
I find comedies are terribly boring to watch in Japan -- no one laughs or makes any noise. I liked watching comedies in the states where everyone would be laughing -- made the movie funnier to me.
 
laughing makes SO more bearable too, @Ike
 
user4842163
7:52 PM
@cimmanon What is this re-released original? Is that the one where all those extra special FX were added?
 
yeah
 
user4842163
@cimmanon Oh, I was kind of disappointed by those -- too much stuff on the screen for my taste.
 
meh, it was ok. i am not a hard core fan or anything, but it was nice to see them on the big screen
i would have been too young to have seen/remembered them in theatres when they originally came out
 
user4842163
@Drew Yeah, always find it delicate though.. my sense of humor is kind of crude and perverse :-D
 
@Closey alive?
 
7:55 PM
@rene Still here you guys!
 
@Closey starting
 
@rene May the Vote be with you!
 
user4842163
Are you all more into Star Wars, Star Trek, both, neither?
 
for me star trek
 
user4842163
When I was a kid, I deliberately shied away from all of these sci-fis... because I didn't want to be considered nerdy and I was already into computer programming, so I didn't want to add Star Wars or Star Trek also on my resume. :-D
 
7:57 PM
Anyone else getting a bad UI on this page chat.stackoverflow.com/error?aspxerrorpath=/users/0
?
 
user4842163
then as an adult when I stopped caring, I watched all of these and liked especially Star Trek, Next-Gen (Captain Picard)
 
Doesn't it already says: "Oops! Something Bad Happened!" :P
 
user4842163
@Drew Next-Generation or other series?
 
the cat
 
Lol, yeah. But what's with the UI?
 
7:58 PM
old series old spock
 
user4842163
ooh, I should watch those... I'm trying to catch up -- watched all the seasons of NG in a marathon-style
 
william shattner
and old godzilla movies, mothra. The old stuff
 
user4842163
my impression is that the original one was more gung-ho adventure... and NG is more like procedure, cultural exchange
 

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