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12:00 AM
I'm feeling a little guilty. Saw a question this morning that should have been closed - a google search would have turned up the answer. But no, I answered the question instead. And the answer got upvotes. More than some that I've spent a weekend figuring out. Sigh.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Soap meet rope.
 
user4639281
/me looks innocent
 
12:24 AM
@TinyGiant You didn't... hmm. Maybe you did.
 
user4639281
12:43 AM
@Mogsdad Nahhh, couldna been me. Never seen it before in my life.
 
Do you use the Stack-Exchange-Editor-Toolkit?
 
user4639281
Yeah
 
I'm wondering if I've broken it... it doesn't show up for editing answers. Did it ever?
 
user4639281
No, it's not showing up on answers for me either.
 
user4639281
Ugh, get your pitchfork and torch.
 
12:46 AM
What for? I've got a pot of hot oil on the stove...
 
user4639281
Even better, I'm not getting any errors so I'll post a bug report then dig into the code.
 
@TinyGiant Looks like it only has hooks for questions.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Really? I'm fairly certain it used to work.
 
    // Populate or refresh DOM selections
    App.funcs.popSelections = function() {
        App.selections.redoButton = $('#wmd-redo-button-' + App.globals.questionNum);
        App.selections.bodyBox = $("#wmd-input-" + App.globals.questionNum);
        App.selections.titleBox = $(".ask-title-field");
        App.selections.summaryBox = $("#edit-comment-" + App.globals.questionNum);
        App.selections.tagField = $($(".tag-editor")[0]);
        App.selections.submitButton = $("#submit-button-" + App.globals.questionNum);
 
user4639281
// If there are multiple posts, we need to pass the post ID
 
user4639281
12:52 AM
Answers don't have titles or tags etc.
 
user4639281
$(".edit-post").click(function(e) {
    App.init(true, e.target.href.match(/\d/g).join("")); // If there are multiple posts, we need to pass the post ID
});
 
user4639281
That applies to all edit links and pulls the post id from the clicked link.
 
Yeah. Answers DO have an ID, but it's only in the URL if you've used the answer's link.
 
sdd
Is there an iOS developer which I can ask a simple (yes/no) question?
 
@sdd Do you mean ask a question? (not me)
 
user4639281
12:57 AM
@Mogsdad No, add console.log(e.target.href.match(/\d/g).join("")); on there and it prints the id
 
user4639281
When clicking the answer edit link. It should initialize
 
@TinyGiant I was just going to say... the "answers" div has each answer with its ID... should be able to pull from the DOM.
 
user4639281
Well, I've traced it loading up to the button bar, almost there.
 
user4639281
@mogs, the selector for the redo button isn't finding it, so the editor button isn't being appended.
 
user4639281
Should be a quick fix
 
1:06 AM
@TinyGiant That's where I got to... App.selections.redoButton.after(App.globals.buttonHTML);
 
user4639281
Yeah, its just referring to it wrong.
 
Yep. Figures out questionNum when first loaded, then uses it for placing the buttons.
 
user4639281
I've got it appending... now I just have to track down a couple bugs. And do a bit of testing.
 
@TinyGiant I'm passing postNum to popSelections... you?
 
user4639281
I set a new app global App.globals.targetID = targetID after the if clause in the init function, then changed the reference from globals.questionNum to globals.targetID
 
1:14 AM
Better - otherwise need to change the way the button html etc is produces.
 
user4639281
Least interference I think.
 
user4639281
ooo got it working!
 
user4639281
fixit required all of the selections to exist in order to run, it would fail if one was missing. a simple if(!input) return false; at the beginning of fixit solves the problem.
 
@TinyGiant See bits that say it should work in the review queues, too...
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Oh yeah?
 
1:23 AM
    } else if ($(".reviewable-post")[0]) { // H&I review queue
 
user4639281
Yeah, I saw that. Does it not work?
 
Nope. The id for the edit window is different than the questionID... same problem.
Actually... I'm in the suggested edits queue. Maybe others are different... but unlikely.
Why you'd target H&I, I don't know... it's always empty.
More likely it's never worked, and just got left there.
 
user4639281
I'll see if I can get it working. There's no reason it shouldn't
 
user4639281
I have it working perfectly on answers now.
 
user4639281
Fixed a scroll issue that I had already posted a fix for and was merged but then written over.
 
1:29 AM
Very cool. I've got the button showing up for answers... but that's it. I'm going to roll back to my "clean" version. You're miles ahead!
 
user4639281
which queues have editing?
 
user4639281
errr.... well.... theres nothing in any that might.
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Need someone to suggest an edit.
 
1:34 AM
sweet!
LQ
 
user4639281
I can grab the post id in the queues by selecting $('.post-id'); lol
 
@PaulRoub... It's an edit race, then?
 
user4639281
Here I am thinking I'm on glue, it's not even included on those pages lol.
 
NAA now, was rude/offensive before: stackoverflow.com/a/32621338
 
1:52 AM
@TinyGiant Which pages?
 
user4639281
/review/*
 
Ahh.. True.
 
user4639281
It still wouldn't have worked for suggested edits, that will be in the next update to my fork
 
I've pulled your changes into my fork. The old-fashioned way. Works like a charm.
@approxiblue Think those two accounts are the same person? Did he lose track of his sock-puppet?
 
@Mogsdad I don't think so, they haven't voted yet. I think he's just mad and rushed to answer back.
Fun stuff, fun stuff: stackoverflow.com/q/32286976
 
user4639281
2:03 AM
@mogs, I've got it working in suggested edits.
 
user4639281
Should work anywhere now.
 
@approxiblue Oh dear...
 
user4639281
Except, have to add it to the post answer & post question toolbar's as well.
 
@josilber anyone going for Reversal? lol
 
@TinyGiant Handy. Of course, people who know about the tool are unlikely to need it in their own posts.
 
2:05 AM
@approxiblue I think think people are predisposed to not upvote on troublesome questions, so it would be awful tough to get reversal here
I guess that's what makes reversal hard everywhere
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Why do I want to capitalize jQuery and JavaScript if I don't have to? keystrokes main, keystrokes
 
user4639281
Use it like autocorrect, all the time.
 
@TinyGiant Ok, I guess that's true. But how long until something like this happens?
 
user4639281
lol, hopefully quickly and hilariously.
 
@Mogsdad Apparently. everybody wins
 
2:11 AM
@PaulRoub Love it! Just updated the post.
Wow. Easy to spot the audits in the queue... they weren't edited by Paul (or me, if you're not me).
 
@Mogsdad Did you edit the roomba eligible closed questions too?
 
@durron597 No, I excluded closed questions from my query. @PaulRoub?
 
@Mogsdad I guess there weren't any.
@TinyGiant that's deleted
 
@durron597 There were some negative-voted no-answer questions that would have been cleaned up with the weekly, I don't know if a tag edit will change that. Likely they will close now via votes.
 
user4639281
One question in a tag created on that users LQ question.
 
2:21 AM
@TinyGiant What's the problem with the tag wiki? Not at all familiar with the topic.
 
@TinyGiant And they're allergic to downvotes. Time to open another account...
 
Ah, we're getting rid of the tag
 
user4639281
@josilber It only had one LQ question from that one user.
 
user4639281
Created just now.
 
@Closey starting
 
2:23 AM
@durron597 May the Vote be with you!
 
user4639281
@mogs, the editor is awesome for reject and edit, hehe
 
@TinyGiant Got it -- hadn't been following the convo. Thanks, and rejected.
 
passed javascript audit
 
@TinyGiant Put in the pull request! I wonder if there were defects already?
 
user4639281
2:25 AM
Not fully tested, dripping with blood as always.
 
@TinyGiant Doing manual sync #2. And oddly, there was no issue for it not working anywhere but questions.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad ?
 
@TinyGiant I have my own fork with a pile of fixes in it.
 
Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 21 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@durron597 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
2:27 AM
@Closey Last session stats
 
@durron597 Your last completed review session ended 9 seconds ago and lasted 4 minutes and 23 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 6 seconds.
 
@durron597 dang you're fast!
 
It's easy when I know the questions have already been vetted by Mogs or Paul
 
@durron597 Fair enough :)
 
Good news is there's plenty of stuff in the queue for everyone.
Those two as well because I put at least 15 questions in myself
 
2:30 AM
@durron597 I'll run through that when I review today
 
user4639281
So its purposeful?
 
user4639281
2:54 AM
@Mogsdad Is it bad that I got a thrill from that?
 
@TinyGiant I know, right?! Just as I was thinking "Who the (*& would write such a broad question?", I saw it!
 
user4639281
Lolz, I got to the bottom of the post and was about to click the button, saw the user card and the train hit a brick wall.
 
user4639281
I re-read it three times, each time came to the same conclusion, voted.
 
user4639281
I wonder if we'll be banned by the morning.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad btw, are you using firefox or chrome?
 
2:58 AM
@Mogsdad Lol, that was my second month on the site
 
@TinyGiant Chrome at the minute.
@durron597 Have you close-voted it?
 
I retagged it ;)
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad "use strict"; ((w,d)=>{w.$=d.querySelectorAll.bind(d)})(window,document); $('a') run that in the console on a page with links.
 
@TinyGiant Will this get me in trouble with the NSA?
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad It could, depending on the page with links...
 
3:00 AM
@TinyGiant What do you want to see?
 
user4639281
Should say NodeList[xxx]
 
You interested in the end of that story?
 
Yep.
and Uncaught SyntaxError: Failed to execute 'querySelectorAll' on 'Document':
 
user4639281
Just demonstrating the power of arrow functions in es6 now being available in chrome
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad That shouldnt happen.
 
3:01 AM
@durron597 Sure.
 
@Mogsdad We ended up torching the third party library because it was so bad
Went with a different provider
lol
 
@durron597 Glad you weren't trapped.
 
user4639281
Anyways, yeah eas6 is closer and closer every day, arrow functions are a cool addition.
 
I've mentioned in past that one product I'm responsible for is in the process of changing OSes? Every telecom product I've worked on has had an OS abstraction layer... best investment ever.
Close this as too broad, or leave it open for the entertainment factor? I could go either way...
 
3:25 AM
Out of everything (except flags). Catch ya on the flip side.
 
@Mogsdad Night!
 
bye
 
4:07 AM
@durron597 huh?
 
4:42 AM
@TylerH Oh, I thought you'd feel compelled to edit that pile of trash
@TinyGiant You still awake?
@josilber awake?
 
@durron597 yup
my wife is in South Africa so my sleep schedule is pretty suspect
the cat doesn't really keep my on a normal schedule nearly as well as the wife does
 
my cat doesn't cats don't like it when i sleep
 
haha
reasoning on del vote?
I honestly don't know a thing about what they're discussing
 
because the guy is being a complete jerk
and also wrong
and also can't spell worth a damn
 
haha ok -- he earned my downvote
so now at least grayed
oh actually
really is a jerk, you are right
del voted
hadn't made it to the bottom
 
4:49 AM
there's a comment explaining why he's wrong, too, from a guy who currently has 23k rep (I don't know what he had in 2012, I assume less)
 
@durron597 re: cv-or-i-stab-you perhaps simplify to close-vote-or-die
 
@Paul haha, when the pin expires i'll put that in the next incarnation of that one
@josilber gnight all
 
Good night!
 
5:29 AM
@durron597 were you talking about the search results or the individual question that's on hold?
 
 
5 hours later…
10:32 AM
Is asking whether a built-in exist in a language or framework or version on-topic or is it an external resource request?
 
 
2 hours later…
12:09 PM
Good morning
 
Sam
Afternoon
 
12:22 PM
^^^^ deleted by owner
 
So I guess there's a race condition between roombaing posts and tag cleanup cc @Mogsdad
 
@durron597 IS that bad enough for spam or just NAA since the link is broken?
 
@NathanOliver I'm usually pretty careful in spam vs NAA, that reads like spam and is only barely related to the question.
 
@NathanOliver From a new user without any other answer, spam
 
killed it
 
12:30 PM
 
@durron597 Aww, thanks
 
Sam
@durron597 I flagged VLQ.
 
@durron597 VLQ as well.
 
@NathanOliver @Sam I flagged NAA.
 
Sam
12:39 PM
I'm pretty sure it doesn't warrant the full wrath of being marked as "abusive".
 
@Sam when the username is also "i have no clue", that almost pushed it over the line for me.
 
@Sam agree
but it is borderline
and the account is not registered so I don't expect much is lost ...
 
Sam
@durron597 If the post's another answer of a similar nature, then I'd flag as abusive.
But until then, NaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaa FlagMan!
Speaking of which, hey gunr.
 
NaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaaNaa Morning!
anyways
 
We just need the extra a in it
 
12:43 PM
I've already flagged close to 30 answers since I sat down at my desk. I guess I really am FlagMan ;)
 
Sam
:D
 
user image
3
fixed that for you
yup, today is going to be one of those days
 
Sam
A lmgtfy link, classic.
 
@gunr2171 I had a critical show stopper issue this morning, I was at my office 15 minutes after waking up of which 10 of those minutes were driving
 
First how is this constructive? Secondly don't post link only answers as links may break. Thirdly this an English speaking website and your second paragraph is not english — NathanOliver 15 secs ago
 
12:47 PM
It's fixed now but I'm venting my annoyance / exhaustion on people answering questions with "I'm having this problem too"
 
nice
 
Sam
@NathanOliver +1
 
Can we keep an eye on this
 
so is that user a spam account? stackoverflow.com/users/4108359/babynology
 
y'all can downvote and flag this to oblivion too if you want
 
Sam
12:49 PM
@rene It might be better if we use two eyes.
 
@Sam use all the eyes you have available
 
Sam
@rene Sure thing, you know us chatbots, we have hundreds of 'em.
 
@cimmanon It's ready for delete votes
 
@gunr2171 I think it might be a clueless interwebs user
 
@durron597 which?
 
12:52 PM
@cimmanon this
 
@NathanOliver read the "about me" section
 
Y'know @Paul, if you don't talk, I don't even realize you're in the room sometimes :)
@rene Keep an eye on it or just burn it? It's just 5 questions.
 
@durron597 Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them.
 
@gunr2171 Ah. tricky. If it is they have a lot of patience as the SO account has been around for 11 months. I almost think they made the SO account so they could get an association bonus on Parenting.SE
 
@PaulRoub Indeed :)
 
12:56 PM
@durron597 Well, yes. but lets hear from the creator of the tag first...
 
FYI there is a post discussing your recent creation of the koans tag on meta heredurron597 18 secs ago
 
that is the second comment he got then...
 
@rene Oh, you went to his oldest answer.
 
I was advised to leave such comments on posts where no other comments existed...
to reduce inbox clutter
 
Sam
@durron597 Can you, by any chance, remember how many UVs that answer had?
 
1:06 PM
@Sam 9
 
Sam
Thanks.
 
@durron597 I'm missing context on that, could you enlighten me?
 
@Mogsdad All the posts are gone, but the tag itself is not
in other words a 1 rep user could theoretically ask a question with it
 
@durron597 Ah, yes. That's why I've added it to the Burned tag monitor. If anyone posts a question before the tag is closed (or after), I'll know.
 
@Mogsdad ah, nice
 
1:15 PM
@durron597 It's a stop-gap measure... @rene proposes to eventually work on a bot that would notify us of new questions on burned tags, but in the mean time that seems to work. We could add the feeds here instead - but I figured I'd experiment with it a bit first.
 
@Mogsdad Interesting
 
Yam
1:35 PM
Yam v2 started - **debug**.
 
Sam
MD fail.
 
@Mogsdad hum, that might sound like a Closey 2.0 feature
 
@gunr2171 I think that's the starting point, yes.
 
@Mogsdad It seams logical. If something is burning the smoke detector should trigger ;)
 
@NathanOliver groan
 
1:50 PM
hey its one of those days. I have tomorrow and Monday off so I am already mentally checked out.
 
@Sam What's the status of Pham at the moment?
@Mogsdad Oh, I guess there's no reason not to edit tags on closed questions with an accepted answer, duh
 
@durron597 Yeah - I accidentally tagged a couple to "3rd" instead of "third", so they weren't showing up for delete votes. It doesn't delay when we can start voting, though. I did leave the roomba-eligible ones alone... just 2 of them left.
@PaulRoub moob
 
@Mogsdad I should have edited them to myself when I was doing , I just didn't look at the already-closed questions at all
 
Alright, that's all of the new -related questions
 
@Mogsdad Have you flagged this yet?
Also, OMG * works in tags in searches? how did I not know this?
 
2:05 PM
@durron597 ahh... I had that open and had forgotten about it - tag removed and post deleted
 
@JonClements afternoon guvna
 
greetings and salutations or something...
 
@durron597 Nah - figured I'd hit Jon up when he was in the room. Hey, @JonClements... never mind. ☆*・゜゚・*(^O^)/*・゜゚・*☆
@durron597 Why? It's been there for years, two more days would be no issue.
 
Sam
@durron597 Well, you can see my latest experiments over at the testing facility.
I'm still calibrating things atm though.
 
sigh we seriously need the "lacks basic understanding" close reason: stackoverflow.com/questions/32631645/…
 
2:12 PM
ugh...
> Also don't take anything I said into consideration most my understanding comes from my past experience in High-school or secondary, which was in Belarus , So thanks in advance and I'll be here all weekend waiting for you help. Thank you very much and I'll be thanking you formally once more and after this is hopefully resolved, Thanks!
 
@cimmanon If the question appears to be asking something mind-numbingly obvious, then it's unclear what their question is.
@Sam code only isn't flaggable.
 
@Sam Can I post in the test room or does that interfer with Pham?
 
@Sam How can I contribute to Pham? Auto detection of NAA really interests me.
 
Sam
@rene Feel free to do whatever.
@durron597 I'm trying to narrow down the results to code-dump sized answers.
 
@Sam I want to learn how to auto detect this
 
Sam
2:18 PM
@durron597 Besides sharing your views on what we should be aiming to catch (and proposing FRs, etc.), there's not much you can do.
 
@Sam I can't submit PRs?
 
Sam
@durron597 Well, you can. If you understand Pham's inner workings ofc.
It's just I don't expect many people to bother with that sort of thing.
 
@Sam But where's the code base
 
Sam
@durron597 I simple well-written regex should suffice.
 
2:20 PM
@Sam I'm thinking more complicated
bayesian probability scores.
 
Sam
@durron597 NLP is the way to go then.
@durron597 Watch out for bayesian poisoning.
 
@Sam I know it's a big project, gotta start somewhere
 
Sam
@durron597 Pham should've caught that.
 
Would be nice to start with an existing chatbot that's already decent
 
Sam
@durron597 I guess you're familiar with C# then?
 
2:24 PM
@durron597 Sock Puppet accounts.
 
@Sam he knows Java, it's the same thing
 
@Sam Java, but I can figure out the differences, I'm an expert
 
Sam
...
 
:D
 
@Sam I'm not asking for commit rights, I just wanted to know where the source is so I can submit PRs
 
Sam
2:26 PM
@durron597 Sure, ok.
Just ignore everything in master, it's only around for legacy reasons (until v2 is complete).
 
@Sam Are you running it in Mono or VS? If the latter, do you think it will compile and work in Mono?
 
Sam
@durron597 VS. Tbh, I have no idea. I know Yam runs fine on Mono, but I haven't yet tested Pham.
 
Closey does work in mono (but I develop in VS)
and all 3 bots share the same common library
 
Sam
(The end goal is to have them both run from a friend's VPS, which'll be Mono, so.)
 
@gunr2171 If I didn't have to develop a client that works in windows, my dev machine would be linux already.
durron.microsoft--;
 
2:32 PM
true, I'm still in windows because of video games and VS
and sql server
 
Sam
Same.
 
@gunr2171 I don't really play games on my computer anymore, plus steam has a lot of linux compatible stuff.
when I do play games, which hasn't been that much lately tbh, it's all console
 
yes, steam has come a long way, the big games are still windows-only
 
Sam
Afk
 
my post has hit the hot meta sidebar. gone from 22 votes to 41 in about an hour. that is some meta effect.
 
2:34 PM
(then again, I've played 327 hours of TF2, which is also a linux game)
 
Aw, did someone flag the post?
 
?
alright, time to try out mogdad's script
 
@durron597 The meta post?
 
Sam
@durron597 And back. This is the primary code responsible for catching posts (atm).
 
2:39 PM
So we need to un- it?.
 
meh, it's fine, is so small, we can do it ourselves.
Man, I still have a pending flag on page 20. That means I've flagged nearly 1000 posts / comments since I flagged that one.
 
PS - I'm out of close votes, so please somebody, put a vote on that to get it started.
 
@Mogsdad I flagged as rude
 
@Mogsdad seeded
 
In fact...
 
3:06 PM
@Mogsdad The puppetry seems to run both ways. I assume you already noticed codeBloger's web and social media addresses
 
anyone mod flag them?
 
@PaulRoub I've flagged posts both ways, with a bit of sock-puppet evidence for the mods. I didn't catch the obvious (and may I say, incredibly STUPID) addresses in the profile. If you flag, include that.
 
(multi-lined chat messages are not markdowned parsed)
 
3:13 PM
@PaulRoub caught a Mod: stackoverflow.com/a/843095/4342498
 
lol nice
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 55 secs ago, by Normal Human
@SmokeDetector Please don't report harmless NAAs. You see it, you flag it. That's enough.
 
@NathanOliver So... ABUSIVE?
 
@Deduplicator All boomed except this one
 
3:27 PM
@PaulRoub Hey, Paul, those are gold mines. Or coprolite mines, more like! You should put up a meta post on them, because more eyes could help ferret out the worst of them. I'm finding that 10-25% are actually answers - in that they helped the OP to a solution - and I'm editing them. Otherwise, NAA flags galore. Especially fun to see so many high-rep users abusing the system!
 
@Deduplicator Could I get a third answer delete on this?
 
@durron597 The question needs to be closed as well.
 
oh, it seems I missed one instance @rene, thanks
be back later
 
Have I gone one comment too far?
Thanks guys.
 
@Mogsdad it is framed as an answer, although I suspect the OP may have lost interest about four years ago. — Peter Lawrey 50 secs ago
 
3:41 PM
-12
A: Is there a good reason why the [META] wordmark on the new header image is now orange and no longer maroon?

TheWarriorNamedFooInspired by Laura's comment, I propose that the Meta Stack Overflow logo be made bloody on Halloween. Because that would be hilarious. Image from http://www.flashandmath.com/flashcs4/blood/streaks.jpg

wut
 
@durron597 Score 1 for fixing the broken windows, anyway.
 
@Mogsdad can you grant kennybot write access?
 
@durron597 he added an English translation
 
@durron597 He added a translation for those two sentences.
 

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