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12:28 AM
@josilber Chuckle first - I mean, it is funny, right? Then treat it like any question that's in bad English or txt-spk... edit it. It might get up-votes for humour... but that's not what the site is about. (I'd compare it with unrelated memes in answers.)
 
@Mogsdad I was tempted to and then I decided it was a late answer on a 5-year-old question with an 80-score answer, so probably no need to add to further disturb.
 
@josilber ...other than to downvote it?
I'm finding it hard to edit, because some of the terminology is wrong to start with.
 
@Mogsdad Yeah, I think this is the ticket
 
@josilber That's -2... one more and it's more-or-less gone.
 
12:42 AM
This question here was voted off-topic, which is ridiculous. Agree?
not the best question in the world, but not off-topic, that's an embarrassing close reason.
 
12:58 AM
@misterManSam I voted to close that question. Reading it now, my opinion is split between "too broad", and "off-topic / No MCVE". Chances are that split was reflected in the 5 close votes. In the end, the reason with the most votes is presented. Since there are multiple off-topic reasons, it takes a clear majority within the sub-topic to have that presented as the close reason, otherwise it will show as just "off topic", as in this case.
The question itself is not clear - but you are free to edit it to clarify it, and suggest it for re-opening. If it passes the gauntlet, it will be reopened.
 
@Mogsdad - For me the question is obvious "How can I create this layout, this is what I have so far", and it's not too broad, 99% of the code is provided. He required a few extra lines of CSS and a few unit changes ... Looks like I'll have to edit it, this is bugging me :p
 
@misterManSam Welcome to the world of moderation! When we're working in our comfort zones, we see clarity where people with less knowledge would not. Remember that the NEXT person who needs to be helped by your answer needs first to understand the posted question well enough to identify it as similar to their problem... the question needs to be obvious to the less knowledgeable user.
 
@Mogsdad - Yeah, I know. It's the off-topic message that made me go "wtf"
 
@misterManSam Does my explanation about the reason-selection mechanism help?
 
@Mogsdad - Oh yeah, I already knew about it. It combines them sometimes, like too broad and unclear get combined into the close message. Obviously off-topic doesn't which I didn't realise
 
1:08 AM
@misterManSam Just go through the motions of close-voting a question; "off topic" is the only close reason that has sub-reasons, which adds a bit of complexity.
Anyway, you're doing the right thing, editing the question. If we all made sure questions were up-to-snuff before answering them, overall usefulness of the site would be better.
@misterManSam BTW - the biggest thing that would improve that question would be a clear problem statement. There are a bunch of "I want" messages - kind of givezmetehcodez, unfortunately. There is code, which is good... maybe more than needed, but whatever. But the OP doesn't say exactly what they are struggling with. "Any idea about it?" is a question, sure, but no more valuable than "Thanks in advance".
@misterManSam Anyway, whenever you're done, ping me and I'll gladly have a look.
 
1:39 AM
Man, reporting to smokey is nice
That spam had been lingering
 
2:11 AM
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Q: It's a waste of time [maintaining-code]

MogsdadSince maintaining code is such a large portion of a software developer's life, maybe it's not surprising that there is a maintaining-code tag. However, it's a meta-tag, and none of the questions I've found would suffer from losing it. No tag wiki 16 questions (1 already closed) This tag doesn...

@josilber I need to learn the ropes with that.
Hey, this is cool! The last person to touch this question was Jeff Atwood! (And I'm going to vtc it anyway...)
 
2:28 AM
@Mogsdad The title pun is fine, pessimism is vital for this kind of career
 
This has earned 4 reopen votes on the strength of an updated title.
@approxiblue We like to call it realisim...
 
lol
 
Hardly seemed worth a post - based on the hundreds of edits I've been doing, I could kill that one off in a few minutes.
More like "putting a pin in it" for another day.
 
Some should be closed already
 
Yeah - I hit one while going through , which was pretty much the same ilk.
The dog says she needs a walk, so I'm outta here!
 
2:35 AM
later
 
 
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4:03 AM
@approxiblue Let's stop maintaining [maintaining-code]?
 
4:30 AM
@josilber if only a question has multiple titles
 
I just submitted a couple things to gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com
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A: Preventing form resubmission

YitzhakHere be the answer: What ye be needin ta do is listen to the post state of ye document. If it be get, then ye set either a session or a cookie. Methinks ye prolly wanna use dem sessions be they not exposed in yer language. If yer submission page be dynamically generated on de server side, set y...

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A: On a high level, how does OAuth 2 work?

luisperezphdOAuth 2 in plain english. So I was walking by Olaf's bakery on my way to work and I saw the most delicious donut in the window, I mean the thing was dripping chocolate. I went inside and told the chef "I must have that donout!". He said sure that will be $30. Yeah I know $30 for one donut. It m...

So I got "helpful" on flagging this, but it didn't get deleted: stackoverflow.com/a/3278798/1768232
 
Can't blame me on that one :p
@durron597 that one got processed by the LQ queue
Bah - talking to myself I guess @durron597 :p
 
4:52 AM
Hi @Jon
Why talk to yourself when you can talk to bots
 
haha... last time we had a bot:

Bot develops split personality...

Aug 20 '13 at 14:15, 2 minutes total – 23 messages, 5 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Aug 20 '13 at 14:19 by Jon Clements

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oh no, what happened?
the last couple of lines are actually consistent
"I'm not confused, you are!"
 
@JonClements This is excellent
 
Welll, I put in some server level code so it'd spawn upon a no response to handle the websockets failing etc...
@josilber on a side note, had a quick look back your syn stuff... not high on priority at the moment, but will get around to it at some point
 
@JonClements Sounds great -- obviously no rush
 
 
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7:17 AM
stackoverflow.com/a/32535905 Help remove this spam post, please! =)
It’s gone! Thanks, @rene!
 
you're welcome
 
 
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8:26 AM
cv-ed
 
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12:16 PM
@ArtjomB. solved...
 
 
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1:16 PM
Is this really a "good" that deserves an upvote?
 
@ArtjomB. I don't think so...
 
@rene Is it still bad if the grammar and formatting would be fixed?
 
Looking at the accepted answer I don't see how that answer adds value, so still not useful
 
I feel like information like this is implied and doesn't have to be said.
 
but I'm not an SME
 
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@yam search questions title:4465 site:gaming.stackexchange.com
 
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afternoon all
 
@JonClements nice hearing you
 
Sam
Afternoon
 
hey all
Can someone with 20k help me with a trivial tag edit? A space between "Graphics" and "(FXG)" on the excerpt of .
 
@Deduplicator is it? That doesn't get said often :)
 
3:28 PM
I've found a few more "maintenance" related tags that might be worth a tidy or burn. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305896/…
 
@approxiblue done
 
@ArtjomB. awesome, thanks
 
@Mogsdad whats with the messed up tag edit on this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/22574617/… (also, you missed the "thanks")
 
@cimmanon What's messed up? I did miss the thanks, but wasn't looking hard at that one because "code-maintainability" is a tag I've mentioned in this meta post; not sure what to do with it yet, but I have my eye on it. In a tangential set of edits, I'm replacing code-management with version-control, rather than look for a synonym for < 20 questions.
 
@Mogsdad yeah, but that question isnt about version control
it isnt about ssmacs either >.>
its about writing reusable code and getting a specific compiled output
 
3:44 PM
@cimmanon smaccs, you mean? I'm no expert, and didn't add the tag, but based on the tag hint it sounds like it could belong. You're better qualified than I on the subject - should I remove it?
 
well, its a pretty crappy question (its not going to help anyone) and a duplicate of another question, so i dunno what you want to do with it.
 
scss maybe?
 
smacss is a naming convention
scss is a specific syntax of sass
 
Dup of what?
 
its in the comments, i can close it with gold badge
 
3:47 PM
@cimmanon Excellent - go to town!
 
@Siguza see the editor's comment, seems a reasonable edit to me, especially as it gives + links to the source
 
Shouldn't a mod be marked as a mod on a chat-transcript? See here for an example where @JonClements isn't shown blue.
 
@Deduplicator you'll also notice that room owners aren't italic...
 
3:52 PM
@JonClements Well, the bug is bigger than I thought.
Unless that's by design for some strange reason.
 
@Deduplicator In that example, we don't need the blue highlight to recognize a mod
 
@approxiblue Sure, we already know any mere mortal cannot actually know what he said. Though it could have been a figure-of-speech exaggerating the confidence in a deduction.
 
Well, I think regular users of the site know who the mods are
 
In the same fashion, I could do this (and from your prospective, I'm a mod [which I am obviously not])
 
Sam
3:56 PM
@Yam search questions site:travel title:BUY
 
Warning: I am not a mod.
 
how is everyone this morning
 
so yes, it is needed to highlight mods
 
Sam
@Yam tasty spam.
 
3:57 PM
@durron597 bored/fine, you?
 
@approxiblue pretty good, just flagging some NAAs before I go for a run
 
Sam
@durron597 Alive, I think.
 
@cybermonkey Still, I tend to find descriptions advertising the product rather useless. The suggested edit provides no guidance on it, so I rejected it.
 
!!/coffee
 
@durron597 brews coffee for @durron597
 
3:58 PM
true, I would've added some more info if I was the editor
 
Glad to see smokey's doing okay this morning
 
!!/tea
 
@JonClements brews a cup of lemon tea for @JonClements
 
awww.... it got my favourite! :)
 
!!/brownie
 
4:01 PM
@approxiblue Brown!
 
@cybermonkey There's a case for having the cv-pls tool track previous requests. Same 6 year old question twice in a few minutes...
 
Aren't best-practice questions off-topic?
 
@cybermonkey pob yeah
 
!!/tea
 
4:03 PM
@Deduplicator brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @Deduplicator
 
Is smokey psychic?
 
!!/cake
why are we spamming food names?
and why doesn't smokey react to cake?
 
@Siguza elevenses
 
!!/blame
 
@Siguza needs PR
 
4:04 PM
oh yeah blame only works in the tavern.
 
4:49 PM
@durron597 I see you're getting more descriptive in flagging :p
 
Hi all
 
Sam
Hiya
 
5:05 PM
@JonClements Well, occasionally ;)
 
Hi guys
Please consider this question:
 
heya @Kyll
 
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Q: How to build an application with TypeScript?

WarzHow do you build a Meteor applications with typescript?

 
Sam
@Kyll Hiya
 
The question has two VLQ on it, and one good answer
I have edited the question to remove the part where it said, "if you have a sample project or a tool don't hesitate to post"
Which is an off-topicness incentive
I would like to flag the accepted answer as VLQ
I can't, is it because of the green make-up?
 
5:08 PM
I think the whole thing should be closed as too broad.
 
Well this answer is clearly VLQ
 
no, it's because it has positive score. Must be zero or negative to flag as vlq.
 
Ah, okay
What can be done about it then?
 
@Kyll close the question as too broad.
you can also flag link only answers as NAA, but really, it's just too broad.
 
@durron597 Agreed, but due to the score and views it will stay around for a while
Which means the top answer will always be this "here iz git" crap
 
5:14 PM
@JonClements I have a pending flag on page 7 of my flag list, at what point might it be okay for me to ask you to look at it?
 
Well... it'll get handled eventually :)
What kind of flag is it?
 
@JonClements custom about a person copy-pasting three code only answers
 
5:28 PM
I'm having difficulty parsing this question. IMO It should be closed
 
@durron597 Spam polling or advanced dumbness?
 
@Kyll I'm guessing he has Stage 4 dumbness
 
@durron597 All those "answers" could be flagged as VLQ (link-only)!
 
5:45 PM
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A: Should I flag link only answers to tool request questions?

Shog9The first question you should probably ask is simply, "Is there anything useful here?" Remember, the blanket prohibition on tool-rec questions is relatively new by Stack Overflow standards. At one point, it was the obvious way to ask a lot of questions that could have been asked other ways ("how...

 
@durron597 wow, how did that not get closed/locked?
 
@cimmanon don't know, hopefully we'll get it now
 
!!/tea
 
@josilber brews a cup of chamomile tea for @josilber
 
Could someone with experience in ASP.NET tell me whether this counts as MCVE or not?
 
Definitely MCVE and I have no exp in asp.net
 
@SmokeDetector fp- However, it's still really crappy and should be closed as no MCVE
 
6:46 PM
@durron597 as you said
 
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7:57 PM
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Q: Possible spam ring; too much going on to describe in a custom flag

josilberI was recently applying my limited SQL skills to poke through a list of users with many answers, all of which exceed some minimum score. While this query highlights some really awesome contributors (50 answers, all with score 3+!), I also identified what I suspect to be a spam ring. Normally I wo...

 
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@durron597 but he says its not a duplicate!!
 
8:13 PM
@cimmanon don't care.
 
@josilber that is some nice forensics there...
@Closey starting
 
@rene Good luck!
 
@rene I felt like a detective -- it was pretty mindboggling to see how the ring operated
 
@josilber I serial up voted the complete ring for the effort shown ;)
 
@KevinBrown @JonClements Is this a good answer? Jon I'm pinging you because you're a python guy not because you're a moderator (though that doesn't hurt)
 
8:19 PM
@rene lol
 
Sam
8:35 PM
@Yam alive?
 
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8:49 PM
@durron597 It's a valid answer, just like the accepted one it points them to possible providers
I prefer the accepted one though because Django has decent documentation on how to set the framework up
 
@KevinBrown so don't flag as link only then.
 
@durron597 Don't flag it as NAA, yes
 
@KevinBrown Should we close the question?
 
It looks like a real question, with real answers
One of the comments there about django-medusa should probably be an answer
(specifically that fork, which has GitHub pages support, kinda)
I just edited that PythonAnywhere answer to be a bit more useful for anyone who is interested
 
9:09 PM
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Q: Stop the [manipulation]!

Yu Haomanipulation currently has over 700 0 questions. Its exerpt: Manipulation is the act of algorithmically manipulating any pieces of data is ambiguous and not helpful, in my opinion. Interestingly, questions that has this tag are often trying to spell something manipulation. Feed the room...

looks complete
 
Confirmed, you might want to custom-flag that to get the added
 
@KevinBrown thanks
 
@KevinBrown Done.
On meta, should questions marked "completed" be excluded from "unanswered"?
They are answered by mods.
 
Alternatively, you can add an answer saying "this appears to be done" while waiting for a mod to see the flag
 
I thought this was asking for a porn server... probably my dirty mind...
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [asp.net]"
 
9:34 PM
@rene did you run the gamut of third-party tags?
 
@durron597 yep, had only 1 I think....
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I'm out ... need sleep..
 
9:49 PM
@rene night
 
All 7 users listed have been around for 2-3 years.
At lease 3 are currently inactive.
*least
 
@approxiblue Yeah, they all seem to have joined at a similar time
 
@josilber That's some silver lining: it might be a spam ring, but not an active spam ring.
 
@approxiblue True. Still, one of them has reached more than 1 million users, which is a lot of eyeballs. If it is confirmed as spam, then I think cleanup is important.
 
10:06 PM
@josilber good point. You should add that number to the post too.
 
@josilber Either way, nice detective work
 
Sam
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@approxiblue Done -- thanks for the suggestion!
 
how pointless, I have already upvoted ;)
 
10:18 PM
i really hate that we cant close questions as duplicates if the original question doesnt have an answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/32543349/…
 
10:51 PM
anyone have a tag i should be throwing my delete votes at?
 
points to the room tags
I've been doing pretty bad for the last two weeks at using my close votes
 
I am putting them into
 
@Closey starting
 
@josilber By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
okay, finally out of close votes, delete votes, downvotes and post flags. i'll be back later ;)
 
10:57 PM
@durron597 Sadly only had 3 left today -- cast
@durron597 Ping me in 1 hour and 5 minutes :)
What do you guys think about questions like this -- stackoverflow.com/q/32415610/3093387. Closed as too broad (presumably due to "gimme teh codez"), but the actual solution is a one-liner in python (pretty directly contradicting the concept of "too broad").
 
ughhhhh
ok, i'll consider it next time — Yuri Gor 30 secs ago
alright, after wasting 5 minutes burning 35 comment flags on "thanks!" i'm going to do something more useful. be back later.
 
@durron597 Man, that's the worst.
 
feel free to flag it, i'm out
alright, i'm outta here, take care
 
@durron597 you may want to have a separate comment for "linking to someone else's tool", as that is also pretty common (and was the case here)
@josilber that question could (and probbaly should) be rewritten
It's a pretty poor one as it currently stands
 
@KevinBrown No doubt a poor question (worthy of downvotes and scorn). I was wondering if the close reason is appropriate.
 
11:10 PM
Also, don't forget that the first part of "too broad" is "There are either too many possible answers", which might be more applicable
 
@KevinBrown I guess so, but I don't really see it here. It's such a simple string manipulation.
You have no more close votes today; come back in 40 minutes.
 
@josilber I don't see that necessarily as too broad. It could be regarded that as unclear/no mcve, because OP tried some code, but didn't show it and didn't show a problem they had with it. Of course this is just splitting hairs. This question probably has a good duplicate somewhere (I didn't look), so I don't see the need to reopen it.
 
11:29 PM
@ArtjomB. Hmm, you're almost certainly correct that there's gotta be a duplicate somewhere for this simple of a question. I'm just a bit salty because I failed a "too broad" review audit on it -- when doing the review I could understand the request and could personally implement it in one line in python, so I clicked looks ok. No big deal of course, just frustrated that one-liners are closed as too broad.
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