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1:32 PM
@easwee yep, I host the chatbot on my computer. At the moment, it will not read through previous lines in the chatroom. I can make that a feature request if needed, though my ultimate goal is to have it run on a computer that runs 24/7.
 
 
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6:47 PM
@AlexK I left a comment under Shog9 post announcing the triage queue here. I don't expect the limit to be raised but I won't start another thread about it. Let's first wait if triage and the cvq stay in their current form based on the evaluation of the current ongoing test with triage
 
7:07 PM
Hey everyone! (SO Close Vote chatbot started)
 
You have some cathing up to do @notgunr2171
 
@rene Sorry, I don't understand that.
 
You better learn then ...
 
7:25 PM
: (
anyways, want to start?
 
Yeah, sure ;)
Is @TGMCians around today?
Or @sam
I'll start on the cleanup of 'looking for` and c++ and c# first
 
ok, i did a good amount of .net yesterday, i'll do c++ now
@notgunr2171 starting
 
@gunr2171 Watch out for audits!
 
that requires a lot of skipping for me I guess
 
just keep the filter on only "off-topic"
less skipping that way
 
7:28 PM
yes, i will
@notgunr2171 starting
 
@rene Watch out for audits!
 
Yeah, skipping seems to trigger more audits so thanks for the advice ;)
passed css audit
 
hum, gave up on c++, switched to , good amount of items there
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic; [open-source]"
passed python audit
out of [resources], on to [plugins]
 
passed gcc audit
 
out of [plugins], on to [ide]
out of [ide], going to go back to [facebook] now
 
7:39 PM
I think I've done all c++ and looking for questions
I'm on c# off-topic and looking for now
passed javascript audit
 
Sam
@rene Sorry, was afk.
I'll start in a few mins.
 
OK
passed c++ audit
 
passed c++ audit
you know, that's why i made the "audit stats" command, because i'm sure 90% of all "leave open" audits are c++
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more infomation use the command last session stats.
 
@notgunr2171 last session stats
 
7:51 PM
@gunr2171 Your last completed review session ended 9 seconds ago and lasted 23 minutes and 21 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 35 seconds.
 
35 seconds, oh wow
eh, it was all the tag switching
 
How do you use the bot?
 
@notgunr2171 commands
 
Below is a list of commands for the Close Vote Chat Bot

Everyone
    alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running
    commands - Shows this list
    help - Prints info about this software
    running commands - Displays a list of all commands that the chat bot is currently running
    status - tests if the chatbot is alive and shows simple info about it

Registered
    audit stats - shows stats about your recorded audits
    completed tags [min <#>] - shows the latest tags that have been completed by multiple people.
 
@notgunr2171 add user 4015623
 
7:52 PM
@gunr2171 Ok, I added Alex K (4015623) to the tracked users list.
 
Very cool.
so I just address notgunr2127?
 
yup
 
@notgunr2171 commands
 
Below is a list of commands for the Close Vote Chat Bot

Everyone
    alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running
    commands - Shows this list
    help - Prints info about this software
    running commands - Displays a list of all commands that the chat bot is currently running
    status - tests if the chatbot is alive and shows simple info about it

Registered
    audit stats - shows stats about your recorded audits
    completed tags [min <#>] - shows the latest tags that have been completed by multiple people.
 
passed php audit
 
7:53 PM
i'm also working on some variations on commands, like
are you alive? @notgunr2171
 
@gunr2171 I'm not dead yet!
 
but don't expect that to work often
 
passed java audit
passed android audit
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more infomation use the command last session stats.
 
@notgunr2171 last session stats
 
8:02 PM
@rene Your last completed review session ended 13 seconds ago and lasted 33 minutes and 26 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 50 seconds.
 
Yeah, I had to skip a lot, and with a lot I mean many, many questions....
 
yeah, that's the problem for finding only "looking for" questions
 
@notgunr2171 stats
 
11,749 need review
1,665 reviews today
2,351,457 reviews all-time
 
even filtering by "off-topic" only helps so much
 
8:03 PM
@notgunr2171 audit stats
 
@AlexK I don't have any of your audits on record, so I can't produce any stats for you.
 
ah ha! it works!
 
Great job on the bot. It's awesome
 
: )
@notgunr2171 help
 
This is a chat bot for the SO Close Vote Reviewers chat room, developed by gunr2171. For more information see the github page. Reply with commands to see a list of commands.
 
8:04 PM
I should update the github link now that the repo has been moved
 
@gnat I handled again 40 cv on C++ and c# / off-topic with looking for. See a few lines up my stats. If this needs to work we need to keep the time between when you finish and when I start reviewing as short as possible ... anyway, 40 more have an extra cv so those should rise in the CVQ....
 
Is there anywhere where we can find stats on what's in the queue?
like the breakdown by tag/by reason?
 
I don't think so, apart from rene's query: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/236526/…
 
@gunr2171 yeah, it is far from ideal but I can't come up with anything else, except one suggestion braiam had but that would still require one of us to find the review first and that woukd end up in review sharing which I don't want to do in principle
 
yeah, makes sense
if only you could filter by "phrase"
 
8:11 PM
@AlexK I have an open question here
 
@rene only 5 votes though. Agh
 
...6 votes
 
@AlexK Yeah, I have some other answers that are about close vote reasons.
@AlexK You'll have to ask Shog9 nicely: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252586/…
but remember that the current CVQ is still kept low artificially
It filters the questions that go in the queue and ages votes quicker
without those measures the queue would be above 150K
 
Wow
That's insane.
And pretty intimidating too
 
Yeah, somehow people don't last long in that queue ...
There are enough users with the privilege but the ones using it is simply too low
 
8:20 PM
we should advertise this room, try to recruit more people
drop more subtle hints in comments and posts
 
Yeah I'll be mentioning it more often...
 
thanks!
 
But also, maybe some changes need to take place in the system as well
That post that someone linked me to suggesting that people with Gold badges should have their close votes count as 3...that sounds like a great idea.
 
have you read through this?
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Q: Can a machine be taught to flag comments automatically?

AndyTL;DR: Yes it can. Background On June 27, 2014 Skynet awoke. It looked at Stack Overflow and thought "Why are all these people being so chatty and talking about obsolete things? I should nuke them all!" Fortunately, Skynet was a baby and only had access to my 100 comment flags a day. Prior ...

 
Yes! That was super interesting to me.
 
8:23 PM
^ if that can be applied to question quality, OH BOY
 
It is already being applied to question quality, isn't it?
 
for the most part, yes
 
That's what the triage is meant to be, I thought
 
well, there are automatic checks before a question is posted. the triage is something new on top of that
our hope is that triage will catch things that normally go into the CV queue, and send less items our way
the real issue is the shear number of incoming posts per day (I think around 3-5k questions per day)
it's hard to handle all of those, no matter what step in the process you are in
 
8:41 PM
@rene thanks! today, I looked back at CVs I cast 3-4 days ago and it was really great to see many of closes completed, and I looked into some questions and saw you folks covering these. That felt... great. Also, I didn't do any tags today - I also figured the risk of CV expiry if these pile up too much (as you pointed, "keep the time between when you finish and when I start reviewing as short as possible"). Instead...
...instead I run through The Queue (off-topic, no (!) tag filters - insane amount of skips) and cast my votes over prior ones, cast on "looking-for" stuff by others - with the same aim to prevent CV expiration and questions dropping off the queue. My plan for tomorrow is to run again through the queue to squeeze as much as what was cast before as I can, and if I have any votes left after that, proceed with remaining tags I listed (.net-php-javascript)
 
Ok, sounds as a plan.
 
I'll post if I complete any new tags tomorrow, but don't hold your breath - if I get over many older "looking for" questions in the queue, I will vote on these first
 
OK, I'll keep an eye on this room ...
 
Which type is most helpful to go through?
 
though filtering on a tag is not as easy
 
8:46 PM
I mean in the review
 
whatever major tag you want, then filter by "off-topic"
because that holds the "asking for resource" type
that link above can give you some ideas about tags to use though, like i did a bunch in today
 
Any reason not to do primarily opinion-based? Or one of the other reasons?
 
@gunr2171 that's for sure! my today run through the queue without tag filters has shown that it's possible (questions with title or text starting with "looking for" stand out pretty well) but still quite cumbersome, lots of stuff to skip. Additional filters by Java, C++ and C# tags could make it easier, though it wasn't an option to me since I cast first votes on these
 
@AlexK the "looking for" questions are usually asking for a resource, like a library, tutorial, etc
> Out of 6000+ questions, some of these are bound to be valid questions, but it seems like a large number of these are just "Find a product for me" questions,
 
Would you guys mind taking a look?
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Q: The Growing Problem with Close Votes

Alex KThis is not me asking for more than 40 close reviews per day. Nor am I asking to change the way close votes are handled. These issue have been touched on time and time again. I'm here to present a problem, not a solution. I've found myself moving more towards moderation in the last couple of mo...

 
8:55 PM
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Q: How can I actively cast close votes in and out of review queues simultaneously?

lpappThis concerns has kept bugging me for a while, but it became even more apparent with the introduction of the Triage review queue. The long story short, I cannot reasonably help with the review queues while also actively answering, commenting on and helping with questions in my technical area. As...

 
See any of the front page posts
that look like "what algorithm should i use"
 
rip lpapp
 
@AlexK I pasted title of the question instead of link in there: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/280177/839601
 
> And you've added a new review queue, with more on the way
 
@gunr2171 he'll be back (I hope)
given that suspended user was very active in closing and deletions, best we can do is to stronger push SE team to work on se-quality-project. I bet his frustration has a lot to do with waterfalls of garbage flooding the site. And I bet another suspended hi-rep user has been frustrated by this. Another hi-rep user left another SE site voluntarily but they wrote an explanation here that looks really appropriate. "At some point, maintaining and curating a site became work and not fun..." — gnat Jan 1 at 21:46
 
8:57 PM
both links go to the same place! (to my last message)
 
That's an interesting post as well - I hadn't seen it before
Yeah, that post announces the creation of a triage queue, and then announcing the coming of the Help and Improvmenet que
I'll reword that to be clearer.
 
I would be ok with just removing the second link
 
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A: Empowering tag-badge holders part II - let's look at silver?

gnatFollowing dupehammer spirit, it looks natural to give them 10-20 see details below extra close votes to bang in their tag. Note how this will also boost dupehammer holders power, allowing them to do their magic 10-20 more times a day. Another option worth considering is to allow for 10-20 extra ...

^^^ with a little luck, tag badge holders can get some extra closing power in their tags
@gnat I'm thinking perhaps 5 at the bronze level, so people can actually do stuff right away. Then perhaps 15 more at the silver level, which becomes even more useful when you hit gold and unlock the other ability. When folks hit the bronze level, the extra votes will almost always come on the heels of unlocking another privilege just through rep, so this could be a really good way of bringing out even more enthusiasm for that achievement as well. I'm going to consider this some more, good idea, and thank you! — Tim Post ♦ Oct 8 '14 at 11:52
 
That'd be great.
 
 
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passed r audit
passed java audit
 

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