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How long do I need to wait for the system's cache to give me properly filtered results from this search array_merge -[php] -[javascript] -[perl] -[python] -[go] -[java] -[objective-c] -[vuejs3] -[c] -[vue.js] -[c#] -[actionscripit-3]? I've been hunting un-labeled PHP pages for weeks and editing them. I expect my list to get smaller and smaller, but I find myself revisiting pages that I've already added the language tag to. How do I beat the cache?
@mickmackusa I haven't seen it be longer than a handful of minutes, though I vaguely recall some issue with going back in the browser showing old data if I didn't refresh properly. That's a very vague recollection, though.
do you have a specific example?
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03:33
@mickmackusa Okay, so that is a bug, but a workaround: add is:q to the query. You're finding an answer there, which isn't getting updated either as quickly or possibly ever.
04:20
@RyanM is is:q just the shortened form of is:question? Does that require that my search keyword "array_merge" is found in the question? or will it find the term anywhere on the page?
@mickmackusa It will search the term in the question, it won't return a result if the term is only in an answer.
Oh, I misunderstood the point of the query.
Yes, that workaround will not help for that reason.
part of the problem is the typo in [actionscripit-3], but it definitely seems more broadly broken, also
yeah, I since fixed that typo
Folks, don't put anymore effort into this. I feel I've combed the results fairly well and I think it is time to move onto other attack vectors.
thanks for the help anyhow
 
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06:15
^^^ How has this 2 day old question got 67K views? AI scraper gone wild?
@snakecharmerb it has "xxx" in it. I've noticed posts with that seem to get disproportionately high views
@VLAZ Ah. Perhaps bots that are interested in subjects other than programming ...
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Same thing, I believe - the question still had "xxx".
I don't know if this is due to bots looking for "xxx" all over the internet (e.g., porn indexers or something) or something specifically monitoring SO.
I can kind of picture whole botnets roaming the internet in search of porn. Honestly, seems sort of hilarious.
Trying to get unpaywalled content that they can stick behind their own paywalls I suppose.
@VLAZ are you doing SEO for this room?
06:30
@rene It's the sort of quality content bots deserve
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Be careful, next we have filthy AI
 
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12:53
@MayukhBhattacharya Two notes: (1) You can only make del-pls requests if a post is within one vote of being delible (i.e. has a zero score or less). (2) If you've already flagged it as plagiarism, then the handling mod will delete it (assuming they approve the flag).
(That's a score of zero or less for an answer or a score of -2 or less for a newly closed question.)
@MayukhBhattacharya I should also note that plagiarism really does need to be flagged for mods. It follows a different deletion path when we delete based on those flags
The point is that, if a post requires multiple downvotes before 10k/20k users can cast a delete vote, then the implication is that you're requesting downvotes. That's against the room policy.
The specific rule there is is rule 11 section 2
> del-pls is for posts that meet one or more of the following criteria: are within 1 downvote of being eligible for delete-votes
And just to be explicit: 20k deletion is not helpful for plagiarism. Please raise a plagiarism flag instead.
I saw a case where a 2k user posted 15 posts in the last 24 hours promoting their library. It was disclosed in each case, but it still seems very excessive (especially given that the posts do nothing but promote their library). Should I flag each post individually, or just raise a mod flag explaining the situation?
Also, most of the posts are identical to each other.
13:10
One mod flag will do. We just need to be told there's a pattern to look for
@AdrianMole Sir, thank you very much, @Machavity Sir, understood now, I have raised it long back, but as you see its a complete copy paste of the other users answer here.
Sorry for the delay in replying thanks
@MayukhBhattacharya NP. The post has been handled now so it's all good
@Machavity Sir, thank you very much for your concern! thanks again!
13:43
o/
happy erroneous mod flag declination day (otherwise known as Friday)
er, wha?
@aynber when mods decline my flags when they should have accepted them because I am right and the mod is wrong
Uh huh..
Like "this answer is for a completely different tool" getting declined with "that's your assumption"
sure, Jan
Cow
Cow
14:05
@TylerH rofl
14:17
@TylerH lol. "Well, that's your opinion." "No, that's fact, you boomer!"
Anybody exprienced with Flutter - is this an answer? According to the text it seems like a "me too" but I'm not sure if it's not actually saying "I had the same problem. <code that fixes the problem>"
it's a me too
code is copied from the 6 score answer
15:06
@aynber I wouldn't be as upset about it if they just declined the flag saying "I can't be sure because mods aren't SMEs in everything", but I provided a paragraph of explanation w/ links proving the answer is for another tool, and the mod went out of their way to write that I was wrong and that it was my "assumption"
and then they went on to say that "the answer doesn't make any mention of what program it is for" ?like, really?! It shouldn't have to, because that scope is provided by the question. All answers should be about the same exact program... /facedesk
i particularly like when they're wrong and then tack on "you know better" at the end of the message
ugh
Rob
Rob
15:56
@TylerH I can't believe you just made me look at a non-monospace programming font
@Rob The same font as what SO used for like 10+ years?
Rob
Rob
@TylerH Did it? In code blocks?
My user styles set all the SO fonts back to what they were before the font changes from a year or three ago
SO used Consolas for code, I believe
Rob
Rob
@TylerH It was monospaced at least all the way back to 2016: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/321826/…
But anyway, just messing with ya - to each their own
Hmmm, yeah, I guess when they made the change and I set up my userstyles I saw Consolas as the first fallback for the font I had on my computer and just used that
I probably didn't notice as it is still so much better than the hideous font and size they chose to replace it
though I do have it set to Consolas, monospace
I think it still is monospaced
stackoverflow.com/revisions/65262500/1 today looks the same to me in light mode as this image of it from 2020 i.sstatic.net/tbnGx.png (minus some syntax highlighting changes)
Rob
Rob
16:14
Oh, no, I meant your screenshot from VS
ahhhh
I think I have Segoe UI for Visual Studio
VS doesn't have an option for a monospaced version of it, unfortunately
17:03
Ack did that wrong
17:34
Are there any (no language tag) SMEs here that can say if this question is opinion-based? Seems like it to me based on "I am not sure whether it is wiser..."
17:49
@miken32 No, I think that is reasonable answerable in the context of WPF,.
Cow
Cow
18:18
thanks! currently not able to flag on SO :)
@Cow Sir, I just flagged and it immediately got closed
strange how fast
Cow
Cow
@MayukhBhattacharya thank you, it already had 3 so it just needed one more
@Cow Sir oh oka
Cow
Cow
4 red flags to remove a post
 
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20:58
@miken32 Looks opinion-based to me but I'm not a WCF expert so I'll refrain from voting one way or the other.
 
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@Vickel → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request

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