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12:53 AM
@pppery a shame that it was migrated to SO.
 
It had three community close votes on Ask Different. Probably would have been closed there too had it not been migrated
 
1:47 AM
@miken32 ChatGPT generated non-question?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Not sure. User has another AI-ish answer that I didn't feel confident enough to flag, but confident enough to leave a snarky comment lol
Could just be another one of those users that confuse SO with their personal blog
 
 
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6:33 AM
...good golly, how many comments claiming answer incorrectness are necessary to get a hugely upvoted answer pulled from the site? hmmm... stackoverflow.com/a/17833299/2943403
 
7:09 AM
@mickmackusa One for each upvote.
@Rubén See the starboard for a room where you can post such requests.
 
 
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12:03 PM
 
12:48 PM
Any opinions on if this question is MRE? I goofed in closing it (OP two had two answers as edits and I misread the console) so I reopened it.
There was a question in comments if that was so. I honestly don't know
 
If a user posts the ad-verbatim (character for character) same answer, an auto flag is raised, right? As in: I don't have to flag it myself
 
jps
@Machavity I think we can leave the OP alone with this. They got so many comments trying to help them, now it's up to them to add information to the question. There's a downvote (not from me) on the question, so the question will likely be deleted in a 29 days. And - breaking news - the OP just now edited their question to add more code.
 
@Adriaan IIRC that only applies if it is a copy pasta of their own post.
 
@jps Good to know... but they posted an image of code. sigh
 
@NathanOliver it was in this case. Same user, same text
 
1:21 PM
same user and same answer should be auto flagged
 
jps
@Machavity I need to go offline now, it seems I spent way too much time helping the helpless, probably more time than they spent trying to post a complete question. sighhhhhhhhhhh :(
 
1:45 PM
oops
there we go
 
2:03 PM
Python folks, is this a typo question?
 
not a python person, but I would guess so
 
@Machavity yes
 
Absolutely.
The statement is part of the loop, instead of after it, similar to just misplacing it before the end curly brace (}) in other C-like languages. It's quite common in Python, because, whitespace can sometimes be confusing, I guess.
 
All Phyton questions are tyops.
 
Thank you operations?
 
2:50 PM
I think the association bonus should be retroactively changed to be a one-time 100 rep gain on a single other site, per 200 reputation earned, rather than earning 200 rep somewhere one time and getting a free 100 rep on every site you ever choose to visit in the future
You want 100 rep for free on 50 sites? You should have to earn 200 rep somewhere 50 times
 
meh
 
@TylerH There's a new Help Center page coming soon. Will link to that
 
But it's given because you're "trusted" on one site. That 100 rep allows you to do stuff like flagging spam, etc.
 
get rid of it and instead award these privilages with roles that can be applied across all sites once you've gained that privilege. Abuse it and you lose it on a single site, abuse it repeatedly and you lose it across all sites.
 
Is this trolling flag-worthy, or should we just leave it?
 
2:57 PM
> there are no stupid questions
 
Yeah, it's not the question's fault. =P
 
@GeneralGrievance Meh. Q is gone now. I don't see any signs it's a deliberate troll account. Will leave it for now
 
Who cast an undelete vote?
 
OP?
 
3:10 PM
probably
 
@aynber an undelete vote to what question? or answer?
 
@AdrianMole it also lets you upvote and puts you in very close striking distance of downvoting, and lets you comment everywhere
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels The RAM question
 
but yes, it also removes several new user restrictions
 
@aynber: ah, thanks
 
3:12 PM
but given that sites are all different, it's not like 200 rep in one place means you know how another site works... many sites allow opinion-based questions for example, some sites don't like flagging comments, some sites don't like commenting at all, etc.
I just feel like "hey this user earned 200 rep on site A back in 2013, but hasn't really contributed since, but they instantly get a 100-rep leg up on every site even 10 years later as they join" is kind of... unnecessary, at least.
Instead of a 'lets let every 1-rep user cast downvotes' study, I'd love to see a qualitative study on 'what percentage of bad user actions/contributions across the network are from users who benefited from the rep assoc. bonus, and how many of those bad actions would not have been possible due to it'
 
@aynber Do they count toward the vote totals? If so, the OP has no votes.
 
undelete votes don't count toward the publicly visible vote totals, no. Only up/down votes
The breakdown at the bottom doesn't explicitly mention it but if you hover over the statistic in the top-right of the user's activity page it'll tell you in a popup window that it's only up and down votes
 
Ah, neat.
 
3:29 PM
@GeneralGrievance Not a clue
 
3:49 PM
Sorry, I did not mean to invite user-moderation discussion here with my comment. I probably should not have mentioned it out loud.
 
Aww, there goes my fun. ;-) Twas a nice distraction for 3 minutes
 
4:21 PM
 
Cow
4:50 PM
moo
 
Cow
5:21 PM
spam?
wall of text
 
maybe not spam, but definitely rude/abusive
 
Cow
Ok flagging now
 
Yeah, me too.
 
You don't want to indulge on the quest to unravel the mysteries of quantum entanglement?
 
Cow
no thx
 
5:28 PM
How peculiar.
 
Cow
that post gives me bad milk
 
5:39 PM
I sent the quantum theory to a black hole
 
Cow
rofl
 
How do I unravel the mysteries of quantum entanglement, in Python?
 
Cow
you dont
 
Ah, now it's programming related and an actual question.
 
Cow
hmm
 
5:43 PM
@RyanM It depends. Are you using tabs or spaces?
 
Cow
is that answer on stackoverflow.com/questions/77099187/… generated by AI?
please dont write tabs
preying
 
@Machavity I haven't observed it yet, so... both?
 
In my heart of hearts, tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment. But I like General Grievance's answer better.
 
Cow
facepalm
not like this
/o\
 
(in all my actual code, spaces)
 
Cow
5:45 PM
YES
 
unfortunately there are far too many practical difficulties stemming from tools handling tabs poorly (e.g., rendering as 8 spaces) to make it possible to recommend using tabs in the real world.
 
Cow
yeah I agree
Thank you for reviewing 40 suggested edits today; come back in 6 hours to continue reviewing. Noice!
 
@GeneralGrievance Stop using Shrodinger's Keyboard. I can never tell when the caps lock is on
 
in theory, though, it's better: it's impossible to be off by one space on indentation, for instance. And people can easily set the rendered tab width in most editors to whatever they want. Perhaps they normally prefer 4 spaces but want to switch to 2 for reading some deeply nested code; that's trivial if you're using tabs.
 
@Cow Congrats. And thanks (seriously, that queue is hard to keep down)
 
5:49 PM
unfortunately then you send it out for code review and it renders as 8 spaces and is totally unreadable.
+1 thanks, that queue indeed needs love
 
Cow
@Machavity <3
I'm surprised at how many people who wants to change peoples code or add extra things, which in my eyes is a no go
Should just leave a comment :)
 
@Cow That's a lot of milk you shared.
 
Cow
hehehe
Is this: stackoverflow.com/questions/77061007/… on topic? How to set caps lock as default in Notepad++?
 
@Cow Yeah, it's a programming tool. From the site (emphasis added): "Notepad++ is a free (as in “free speech” and also as in “free beer”) source code editor"
 
Cow
ah ok fair enough :)
 
6:00 PM
... and it's migrated, lol
 
@Cow I miss the programming context so I would say it better fits on SU (and don't listen to what diamonds tell you ...)
 
Cow
rofl
haha
 
to be fair it's very clearly on-topic on SU
 
Cow
That was my initial thought
 
Voted to migrate. Same thought as rene.
 
Cow
6:01 PM
But again, notepad++ is a code editor also
 
honestly though uh, it's a fair point that... I can't see why you'd want caps lock by default for programming
 
Cow
yeah weird question too
 
and in fact it says "I am doing some data entry/notes"
 
Cow
hehe
 
I mean... just press Caps Lock?
 
6:02 PM
so... I retract my earlier statement as to this specific question, which I didn't read closely enough
most Notepad++ questions are on-topic here, just...not this one.
 
Cow
@GeneralGrievance hahaha exactly what I was thinking hahaha
 
@GeneralGrievance it's too hard to reach, can I just have an option to enable it by default?
 
Cow
6:57 PM
Man I have no many votes now
still 79 left today even though I feel like I flagged a ton
Good thing @Jonas is here to exhaust my flag votes
 
@Cow hehe... there are so much here that are off-topic...
 
Cow
true
I just realized I have 100 flag votes per day lol omg
 
jps
@Cow I think it doesn't have any real effect if you flag something that already has a close vote, because only real close votes count for closing a question. Your flagging has only the effect of bringing something into the CV-queue, if it doesn't have a real close vote yet.
 
Cow
hmm
 
it does
 
Cow
7:07 PM
It still adds to my helpful flag count
 
^
imaginary number goes up
 
Cow
I'm curious though, if I flag a question/answer as spam or rude or abusive, does my vote then count even though I'm under the 3000 reputation limit?
Or is the counting factor of 6 spam votes only 6 people with over 3000 rep?
 
jps
@Cow AFAIK yes,
 
Cow
Hm ok
 
jps
@Cow currently it seems to be still at 4 votes, and your vote should count.
 
Cow
7:09 PM
Ah, where does it say that? Must have missed it
 
jps
wait a minute
 
Is the Tag Wiki for undefined misleading? In C and C++, that description is for "uninitialized" and "undefined" is something else.
 
Cow
@KevinB hehe, but it feels so good
 
M--
Do you think this edit is valid? stackoverflow.com/posts/77152744/revisions see the revision#3. I argued that it conflicts with author's intent. While the other editor indicated that since the way OP created their input data does not necessarily contributes to their actual problem, it would just be a distraction.
 
@Cow If you can't exhaust them in SOCVR, you can go to the room for old questions. They need votes.
Oh, you don't have 3k+.
 
Cow
7:11 PM
:(
 
M--
@Cow You'll get there soon enough ^__^
 
Cow
someone also down voted two of my noob questions, tsk 4 reps gonna be tough
hehe
 
Don't worry. Somebody will come along and post them for you in SOCVR, sometime in the next 10 years.
 
Cow
haha
@AdrianMole As a Python Cow, I gotta say it looks good to me
 
jps
@Cow so you mean the 4 votes for spam/RA, right?! Someone (a mod?) told me in a comment during the strike, but I can't find that comment anymore. But every red flag also causes an automatic downvote, and many of the Spam/RA posts are deleted at -4, so 4 flags are enough.
 
Cow
7:18 PM
@jps yeah, that's what I mean
@jps And I think you're right, because sometimes when I vote the question or answer disappears instantly
And I see it as helpful in my flag count thingy
 
@Cow Then we need a proper definition for "undefined", because it has been used in this C++ question, where it looks odd. Clearly, undefined is ambiguous.
 
Cow
@AdrianMole You should add it to the description of the tag :)
Someone also linked the javascript meaning
 
@RyanM No, a tag merge doesn't affect deleted questions (example: deleted questions with next tag). This fact can be used to split a tag into multiple other tags through merges by deleting the questions which aren't to be affected by the current merge.
Frustratingly, if you create a synonym you won't be able to use the site search function to find deleted questions with that tag. To find those, you have to first remove the synonym.
 
Cow
Anyways, bed time for me, kids will wake up around 5 am
Hope you all have a great evening/day
 
@Makyen Did you actually mean, "will won't" or "won't will"?
 
7:24 PM
@jps This chat message is the first time I heard of the reduction to 4 red flags to delete.
 
@AdrianMole Just "won't". Thanks. Edited.
 
jps
@cafce25 hehe, just a second before you pinged me, I found it an was about to post it here. You really beat me by a second ;)
 
:D
 
7:46 PM
@Cow Flags are flags. If you can raise the flag (i.e., have >= 15 reputation or otherwise permitted), it counts.
 
M--
8:25 PM
@M-- @Makyen while you are here would you take a look at this: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/56702102 ? it actually snowballed into something more serious than just one post
 
9:34 PM
@Jonas Minor point of order, I think that one is too old to raise here
 
@halfer ah, right. Sorry.
 
NP - it doesn't bother me personally, and there is not a hard limit, but I think the rule of thumb is six months old
 
Do "Stacker" (employees) have the ability to move a single answer to another page? stackoverflow.com/a/34575007/2943403
 
i mean, i'm sure there's someone at the company that could accomplish something like that one way or another
 
@mickmackusa the practical answer is no, no one who can is gonna be willing to do so as there's no CM with the technical knowhow and bandwidth to work with them to do it.
And in this case I would say it's not even warranted, since the solution already exists, the beset answer is to downvote this one. You could flag it for moderator deletion but unless a PHP mod responds to the flag there's little chance it'll get deleted (and even then there's no guarantee they won't toe the 'company line' about mods not being SMEs)
 
 
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11:49 PM
Can a mod tell me how many total close and reopen votes I have? When I click there, it only shows votes on undeleted posts.
 

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