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12:30 AM
@RyanM IMO, it's below the low quality bar for deletion.
@Enet4 That's ... not easy to produce, because there are no reasons associated with each deleted action. It would be possible to derive an approximation, but it would require quite a bit of work.
 
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@RyanM lol
 
12:51 AM
@TylerH It's such a massive rewrite that a diff view doesn't really make sense, if you're asking for one to the previous CoC. If you're asking for one to what was proposed, then: Yeah, it would have been really nice to have a history on the proposal contents similar to a revisions page on SO and up to the published version.
(ninja'd; which I should have looked for)
 
 
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2:45 AM
@rene Any strike action (if taken) should be such that staff notice the effect(s) quickly but, long-term, the site isn't damaged. A moderator strike would certainly be noticed by staff, as they would have to step in to do the moderation. However, who would really notice if the active members of this chat-room were to stop doing what we do - other than the regulars themselves?
Also, any action such as setting the room to read-only could be readily undone by staff. They could even (temporarily) remove RO rights, etc.
 
3:28 AM
@AdrianMole that seems...unlikely. I'm also pretty sure staff would not want this room running with zero supervision from ROs or moderators.
 
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4:27 AM
@AdrianMole I do not agree that "freezing" this room would not be noticed. That suggests that what we do here does not have a real impact. Moreover, preventing long-term damage is not our job. We are volunteering our time because we like the "product". If the "product owner" doesn't act on addressing our "demands", then any lasting damage is on them.
If you are really concerned about long term damage, we can do something like redirecting requests and bots elsewhere and bring them here if/when the strike ends. It'd certainly make more work for us for a while, but at least during the strike, we have done all that could've been done.
p.s. if the staff does what you are suggesting, then I personally won't ever come back here. At that point, I don't care about "damages" at all. But I agree with @RyanM that won't probably happen.
 
hmmmm, the Archiver has stopped working properly on transcript pages for me, for some reason...
Looks like another conflict with Chat Improvements (cc @SamuelLiew) - don't have time to debug at the moment, but the issue I'm seeing is that the Archiver's mouse-hover menu on the right side of a message doesn't show up when I'm viewing the transcript; it does show up correctly in the chat itself, for comparison
@M-- → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
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5:12 AM
Thanks
 
5:46 AM
@AdrianMole we're a "known" chatroom by SE, these days in a positive way. I don't expect SE staff to undo our protest. The main point will be: we want SE sites to host quality content vetted by humans. Our room is adding effort to achieve that. We're a cog-wheel in the bigger strike machine and therefor I believe that making clear our room is on strike is helping to steer the SE C-level towards a better decision (or two)
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@rene I don't disagree with what you've said, there. Adding a wee bit of weight to a strike may be a useful gesture ... but that's all it will be. Now, if you could organize a site-wide review queue strike, that would have a far bigger impact. Or maybe just in the Staging Ground (still currently in Beta)? I haven't been active, there, for a while (other reasons) but that would be noticed by staff ... even if not the staff responsible for the AI moderation fiasco.
 
6:00 AM
Is this really a duplicate, @Jason? Is it even about padding, if the pointer being present or not doesn't change the structure's size? The first version (pre-edit) seems a lot clearer than the second version.
FWIW, in the reopen review, I left closed but with "needs details or more information".
 
@AdrianMole well, ideas for a review queue strike are welcome as well. maybe we can involve Meta SO.
 
@rene Ideas: (1) Mods dish out review suspensions to all regular/active/obsessive reviewers. (2) Mods then go on strike so they can't lift the suspensions.
 
Well, I hoped Meta will be involved. I hoped there will be post with something like "we are going on the strike. If you want to join: 1. don't flag, 2. don't review anything in queues, 3. etc."
@AdrianMole I don't know position of CMs on matter, but I doubt SE will be left out of chance to restore the situation.
 
6:18 AM
@markalex Nobody really knows the position of many staff members. One has made the announcement but they haven't personally 'owned' the decision. Other staff members who also don't like the decision will likely not say so in public, for fear of being fired. SO Inc. isn't a democracy.
 
@AdrianMole The first version(before the edit) seems to be more clearer as you said. Also I do think that the target duplicates explains OP's problem/behavior of the program.
 
@Jason If a structure with 2 integers is the same size as one with two ints and a pointer, then I don't think padding can explain it.
 
@AdrianMole consider it done ;) I can definitely do that on Stack Apps.
 
@rene With the caveat that I'm not super active on Stack Apps nor do I have queue privs there... I'm not opposed to some users choosing to stop reviewing and coordinating that. Nor am I against mods striking. But... I don't like the idea of mods forcing other users to go on strike by issuing review suspensions. A mod taking away from queue privs from other users may come more across as a rouge moderator vs collective agreement
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Awwww ;)
 
6:29 AM
Are we yet considering the deletion or transfer-to-comment of link-only answers to the documentation? stackoverflow.com/a/4047912/2943403 ...I am super annoyed by these old, lame, lazy posts.
 
@mickmackusa Just flag as NAA?
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship It's a trap. The url has spl-object-hash in it. Even if the link dies, the function is still quasi-expressed in the answer and therefore some curators argue that it still holds up.
 
@mickmackusa ?
@mickmackusa So flag as NAA, and provide a comment, explain that in minimal words, and the moderator handling the NAA flags will move the answer to a comment.
 
I fully support any moderators, reviewers, and users that choose to protest the changes. That said, I cannot reasonably support a moderator using their privileges to strip other users of their earned queue access because the mod chose to strike. A strike needs to be coordinated - a mod unilaterally stripping users of queue access is... not that. Sorry.
 
Some of those mentioned "curators" are diamond mods -- so the flag becomes a dice-roll.
 
6:35 AM
@mickmackusa Just wait until the mod strike begins, then flag it and let the reviewers handle it. Unless, of course, they're all on strike.
"Make hay while the sun shines" ... or similar sentiments?
 
Reviewers might be a worse dice-roll.
While mod's strike, I plan to go on a flag frenzy to make a bad time seem worse for the head office.
 
Yeah - but if your flag is not accepted by the review queue, you just get a "disputed" rather than "declined".
@mickmackusa Flagging suspected AI-generated answers?
 
nah, just flagging other bad things. There are some simple SEDE queries to give me a hundred things to flag.
 
@cocomac you really seem worried. I won't do that unilateral then. Point taken.
 
@rene Sorry if I came across as overly harsh, that wasn't my intention. I was trying to communicate that I'd like a strike to be as coordinated as possible with the intent of it getting the most done that it can, but at the same time, it shouldn't be forced upon users IMO. I wasn't trying to be super blunt, although I see why my message could get read that way
 
6:43 AM
no problem, we're all good.
 
@AdrianMole This is a quote from the latest blog post:
 
Also, my suggestion about mods imposing review suspensions wasn't a serious proposal. Apologies if my humour was too subtle.
 
> To continue growing, every company needs to do more with the resources it has, and every employee (not just those in Sales) must understand that their actions impact revenue.
Makes it seem as if they fired people based on their opinions.
So yes, I think it’s safe to say that SE is no democracy.
I am speculating as to them firing staff that sided with, or supported, the community.
@AdrianMole It seemed like a serious suggestion, to me.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship That would be... really sad
 
6:47 AM
@Andreasdetestscensorship If I would work at a shop where C-level uttered that in public I wouldn't become more motivated to do my job, that is for sure.
 
7:01 AM
@rene Yes, they don’t seem very competent at this game. Or maybe they are, because we’re all still here, after all they’ve done.
 
7:13 AM
Congrats to @VLAZ for becoming Script of the month on Stack Apps. (ps: we still take nominations)
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7:34 AM
While I do appreciate the recognition, I don't feel pride for this achievement.
 
That is understandable and noted.
 
 
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9:27 AM
@VLAZ Does the script also remove diamonds from those who have them? :)
 
@AdrianMole Just hides controls on the page that result in any feedback. Doesn't work for mod tools, since I don't know what controls they have.
As (an unintended) side-effect: It solves the voting button complaints. Because it hides the voting buttons.
Screenshot of what the page looks like: i.stack.imgur.com/7sHwP.png
Two things I noticed: yes the comment upvoted thing is shown. I mean it's not interactable anyway, so I'm not sure whether to remove it. I'll leave it for now.
Second: what's with the bottom of the page? or what?
@VLAZ oh, lol "or Ask your own question" but I've removed all links to the Ask page.
 
Is this strike already going? Or is there some kind of announced deadline for SE to revert policy?
 
No, we're still sorting out logistics
 
Upvoting spam would be a great addition to the strike
 
9:42 AM
@Adriaan Well, then you should leave comment under such posts. Because one or two could be left out, and a couple years later it would be easier to understand "why the heck this was upvoted?" with comment)
I have a question: I made this disambiguation request, but it has no responses, comments etc. Have I done something wrong? Or is it just bad timing? And if latter, should I delete it and recreate later if we all comeback after current situation?
 
@markalex bad timing combined with an obscure topic
 
@markalex 13 hours, that's not even one working day.
 
@Adriaan Fair enough. Will wait more.
 
10:24 AM
@markalex we'll pin a message as soon as the strike starts. That will include a link to a site that includes what we're striking about.
 
 
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11:52 AM
 
@SmokeDetector an 18+ year old "acting" academy? Raises a few eyebrows
 
12:21 PM
@Adriaan They teach you to act important
 
@Adriaan Acting in adult-themed media. Like for voting and driving.
 
1:19 PM
 
1:40 PM
@RyanM quick Duck Duck Going gets me github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/issues/655 but I don't use Org myself
 
@tripleee I found that as well, but that's not something called "Org Mode LSP"
 
(in fact, that that was one of the top results suggested pretty strongly to me that such a thing did not exist)
 
@Adriaan what's odd about an acting academy for adults?
 
1:54 PM
I imagine you were the poor kid that walked into a certain type of bookstore and were displeased with the results?
 
I don't know what you mean but I've never been displeased when walking into a bookstore that I can recall
except one time when I was very little and got separated from my mother and couldn't find her easily because I was too short to see over the aisles
but that wasn't technically while walking into the bookstore, either
 
Was there a section in the aisle you found yourself lost in which had books on "How to locate lost parents?"
 
That would've been pretty amazing. Sadly, no
 
@AdrianMole That’s macabre.
 
I walked to the front and asked a cashier to call over the intercom system for her to come to the front
 
1:58 PM
If it had been an AI-generated bookstore, it would have had just such a section.
 
Morning
 
It amazes me how easy parents gets lost in stores, on beaches etc.
 
I suspect that it's harder to lose parents if you can see clearly farther than 5cm in front of your face.
 
2:08 PM
Size can be an issue, too. Lost my husband at the store the other day. He walked right by me, but because I was on the other side of the shelf, he didn't see lil ole me
 
@aynber Sounds like you need a pair of Store Stilts
 
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@AdrianMole not sure if you're joking or not :) but I wouldn't force people to go on a strike with us. That'd be some mob mentality shi!t.
 
@RyanM Where can I get "Finding Familiarity: Navigating the Maze of Lost Parents"?
 
@VLAZ I'm told the name of the bookstore is "Whispering Pages"
 
2:20 PM
@NathanOliver Oh, that'd be great for every day! I could finally be tall!!
 
@aynber You're not? Maybe you're just not trying hard enough.
 
@VLAZ I can only stay on my tiptoes for so long. and that doesn't add much
 
@TylerH @MichaelM. this question has been locked, making it invalid for del-pls
 
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3:12 PM
@aynber here's another solution youtube.com/shorts/adb60BYqWWk?feature=share3
 
@M-- LOL, I actually love that one
 
@M-- that's too good
 
3:35 PM
@M-- Oh! Around here some shops offer tiny little carts for children to push around. You can probably fit a box of cereal in it and a bit more. But what it does have is a nice tall flag, so you can spot it from behind the shelves.
 
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@VLAZ you mean like this: i.stack.imgur.com/aUx6w.jpg lol
 
No, a shopping cart. The same shape as what you'd normally get to put your groceries in. It's just smaller.
Also has a flag.
 
@rene The problem with continuing to accept requests, but not acting on them, is that SE can rely on us cleaning up everything once the strike ends, when we "give in".
 
meh
 
A strike is not really effective, unless we go completely in. This means that every chat room used for curation/moderating purposes must be put on hold. We must stop flagging things. Moderators must stop handling flags. SD must be shut down. Do not use any sorts of flags, including R/A and spam. This must be clear on Meta.
 
3:47 PM
that should be considered a given
the incentive of making changes to acomodate the community should be curators returning and cleaning up the mess
 
Well, yes. Just stating it clearly.
 
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@Andreasdetestscensorship I suggested redirecting the requests to another place/chatroom outside of SO. I am not sure how easy that'd be and probably requires everyone updating their userscripts.
 
@KevinB It has to hurt that we temporarily stop curation. And it needs somewhat of a lasting value, sadly. If not, they can do a minimum to get us back, and not be worried to step on us again. Eventually, the fatigue hits us, and we're no longer able to organize large strikes when they harm us.
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Yes, however, threatening to harm the community we're fighting for is also counter productive in showing that we are doing this for the community rather than ourselves
 
@M-- I think it's far more effective if we just abstain from curating completely, which means not using the scripts at all, and not collecting content that must go away.
@KevinB But in which way can we harm the company without harming the community?
 
3:51 PM
exactly. that shouldn't be the goal.
 
@KevinB To harm them? How else will they respect us, after all they've done?
 
will they ever?
 
Hopefully
 
I'm not looking for revenge, or to hurt them because I'm angry at them, and just want to see them hurt for the reason of being hurt; I just want the strike to be effective, with a lasting value.
 
The problem - as I see it - is that the higher-level staff really don't give a flying fling about curation. They just want turnover. Even if all the regular curators, and a good number of high-powered answerers, stop interacting/contributing, there will still be thousands of users who will carry on with their quick-fire answers ... and that's just what the Company wants.
 
3:55 PM
if we expect them to we should be aiming to leave the community in a place where any harm that is done is recoverable
 
I think it's also telling to some extent that their policy change wasn't featured - so mainly only people active on MSE and mods saw it (I'm sure others did too, but I presume it wasn't featured to minimize people that would see it)
 
700k rep. users answering duplicates and/or low-quality Qs ... no problem - good for the image of "satisfied customers". ChatGPT posting dodgy code ... again, no problem - the questions are being answered quickly.
 
the goal should simply be publicity
get people to care about the problems we're presenting
causing destruction will certainly attract attention, but will it be the correct attention? Refusing to moderate is a direct action that is 100% inline with what we're pushing against, and causes no permanent harm
 
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@Andreasdetestscensorship well if it's stored in a place that SO doesn't have access to (something only accessible by ROs maybe). Then we can decide whether we want to bring them here later on and act on them, or just leave them (long-term damage to the site).
I am not sure if I am for "hurting" them. I'd say what @KevinB said above, is the right course of action.
 
The site's long-term survival is (hopefully) something that active curators, moderators and conscientious contributors care about but I really doubt that the high-salary, top-level board members do. They want quick megabucks and they'll likely already have plans to sell and move on when the quality and popularity of the site goes face down into the mud.
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4:02 PM
I did agree with halting our curation efforts here, but not in a way to cause permanent damage. Actually, now that I am considering this more carefully, if the employees want to act on the requests that we post here, be my guest.
 
@AdrianMole i'm not so sure that selling would be the worst thing, given the result of being owned by the current owners
 
But what if it was bought by Reddit? Or Quora? Or FaceBook?
 
i mean, it wouldn't be worse
 
Well - the mods would at least then get paid. :)
 
You don't consider a front row seat to all the drama compensation?
 
4:11 PM
@AdrianMole So what we need, is negative media attention, something the media is likely uninterested in.
 
Bad publicity (that will happen once all moderators publicly announce strike) will hurt company. I don't think that lack of curation over some time, even if in will be two or even four weeks, will create some irreversible damage. So my belief is that this room should be temporarily converted to read-only. Bots can temporarily diverted to other rooms, so we could later clean up results, if and when everything will comeback to "normal".
 
@cocomac Fair reason to ignore it, if you ask me?
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship Why? Maybe BBC or CNN have no interest in it, but more technology specific resources will likely be rather interested.
 
Really? I think the media is very interested in bad SO press. A lot of tech journalists have probably had their questions closed and downvoted like everyone else.
 
@IanCampbell Then those journalists would aim the guns at us, the curators, not the company.
 
4:13 PM
@Andreasdetestscensorship Depends on the media channel. Some may have owners who have a grudge against SO or its owners and are just looking for a story to hurt them with.
 
@KevinB There’s been negative attention at programmers pasting from SO, leading to dangerous situations. Blindly pasting from AI is worse.
 
@markalex I concur - and we can always pick up the slack if the company gives in.
I don't think the strike has much value without major curation rooms going into a read-only mode for a while. There is no damage we can't undo when it ends, but if requests just keep coming... what's the point even?
 
Ohh, and about publicity. Pretty sure every tech pundit would like a title like "Humans from StackOverflow declared war on AI"
 
@IanCampbell As long as it’s not interpreted as «programmers afraid to lose jobs. Programmers believe AI is now sophisticated enough to pose a real threat», etc.
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@markalex That's actually a very bad title to go with. Andreas gets it.
 
4:26 PM
@AdrianMole small nitpick, they don't want turnover, which is when someone leaves and you have to bring in someone new. What they want is growth.
which of course is the cancerous methodology that leads to things like pbs.twimg.com/media/B5-lDJWCUAAwfya?format=jpg
 
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@TylerH ohh, that beautiful moment :(
 
5:09 PM
This "question" clearly has problems. I am, however, not able to deduce the proper close reason.
 
Back in the good ol' days, you could close as 'Not a real question'
 
@Turing85 I just did a custom
 
@aynber I've seen this already ;)
 
Why close it? Wouldn't suggesting a self-answer be better?
 
I can always retract votes, but I have a feeling they may not fix it. I could be wrong.
 
5:16 PM
But... once it's closed, the question can't be answered any more (assuming that applies to self-answers)
 
@cocomac I know mods cant so Im sure the OP cant either
 
At the core, the question is really "How to set an Environment Variable in Win 10?", which isn't really on topic here anyway...
 
Except it's necessary for java developers, so one could argue that it is on-topic
 
meh, I'm sure there's a dupe for that
 
true
 
or that
 
I shoulda looked before closing. Oh well
 
Is stackoverflow.com/questions/76384237/… even a programming question?
 
5:38 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Cody made the argument back during the Monica incident that by closing the room the company might read that as an hostile action that could bring negative consequences at some point in the future.
 
@bad_coder what can they do that's worse than what they are doing now, honestly? And if they do, it'll just be a wake-up call for many others.
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@OlegValteriswithUkraine the mods, as I see it, individually and as a collective, have a signed agreement and thus have more latitude to take action without suffering repercussion. However much I drift away from SO I still care about SOCVR a lot, and I don't really see a strike by the room adding much to a general mod strike altough I think the room risks negative consequences by associating itself to a mod strike - consequences the mods themselves will be exempt from.
 
@bad_coder the room has already associated itself with the strike, if you are not aware :) And it's not a mod-only strike.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I'm unaware the room as a colective is on strike, I just posted and serviced review requests?!?!?!?!
@OlegValteriswithUkraine OK, I just read rene's message upthread. I'm joining the strike.
 
@bad_coder well, it hasn't started yet, and whether curation rooms themselves should go into hiatus is being discussed. Do drop by the strike's dsc, btw :)
 
5:48 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine that's on discord right?
 
 
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7:09 PM
Calling all Room Owners: @NathanOliver @TylerH @RyanM @Makyen @Dharman @Machavity please check out the slack backchannel
 
waves
 
Hi @LynnCrumbling long time no see! You're good?
 
Hiya Rene! Indeed, started a new job last January and it's been keeping me pretty busy!
Getting exposed to a lot more technology than I ever had at the old job.
How's the flower been doing? :)
 
@LynnCrumbling o/
 
@LynnCrumbling doing well, I ended my contract in April, so I'm between jobs now.
@LynnCrumbling Any good / new stuff?
 
8:03 PM
@TylerH Agreed
 
@TylerH Hiya!!
 
8:20 PM
Does everyone get the "stack overflow [whatever] survey", or is it random?
 
It's probably controlled by whether you have surveys turned on in your profile
 
> Please select how much you agree with the following statement: AI-powered tools have decreased my use of Stack Overflow.
there we go
 
but yes it is a good opportunity to say 'no AI sucks for programming'
 
I don't think there's a setting for this
 
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні AFAIK its random. I also used it as an opportunity to tell them what I think about AI.
 
8:25 PM
"Is there anything else you’d like to tell us?". Hmmmmmmmm.
 
Just link to RyanM's discussion post on MetaSE?
 
@user16217248 FWIW this will Roomba in 10 days
 
@user16217248 It will be roombaed in 9 days, right?
 
But does it hurt to delete it earlier?
 
It doesn't bite and delete votes are limited
 
8:41 PM
@user16217248 del-pls requests are typically for things that won't be deleted otherwise, and usually for things that are particularly bad.
This is because the threshold for casting delete votes is quite high (10k or 20k in some cases) compared to close/reopen or review requests. Further, delete votes are more limited (most users who cast delete votes have 10-15 per day)
see socvr.org/faq#GEfM-not-habit-del-pls "Unless there's a good reason, it doesn't have to be now"
 
8:57 PM
It's also an invalid request because it's not 1 downvote away from being deletable, right?
 
@IanCampbell yes, looks like it; it would need to be at -1 to be valid this early after closure.
@TylerH @user16217248 binned for not being within 1 vote of being deletable at the time of requesting. While you may re-request once it's eligible, I'd recommend against it, due to being scheduled for Roomba-deletion in a little over a week.
 
9:15 PM
@rene New to me... Kafka/k8s/redis
 
nice
 
@TylerH How can I know how many delete votes it has if I don't have delete votes privileges yet?
 
@user16217248 it has 0
want me to find the userscript you can view CV, RV and DV from
 
You can view delete votes in the voting history.
 
With this userscript will I be able to find out how many delete votes a post has even though I'm not 10k?
 
9:18 PM
And by history I mean activity timeline.
 
So even if I'm not 10K it should still show delete votes in the daily vote summaries?
 
@user16217248 I'm not sure if you meant to ask for something else? it sounds like you are thinking that the delete vote count is relevant to whether it is eligible for del-pls, which is not the case
 
@Ethan This one?
@user16217248 Delete votes only show in the timeline for moderators.
 
@TylerH Then I am not sure of what you mean by 1 vote of being deletable. Do you mean like downvotes? At first I thought you meant it had to have 2 delete votes already. Maybe that's why I'm confused.
 
Questions that have been closed for fewer than 48 hours must have a score of -3 or less to be deleted by 20k+ users.
You can request actions on posts that are exactly 1 downvote away from being deletable. At the time that you posted your del-pls request, the question was at 0 score, meaning it was three downvotes away from deletable.
 
9:23 PM
@IanCampbell Does that apply to questions? Because I know I can see delete vote history on answers.
 
You can see the users that completed a deletion vote, but you can't see who did the voting until it's done.
In contrast, moderators see a line in the timeline that is very similar to the "Accept" vote that you can see on questions.
 
@user16217248 Yes, I mean the post's score. As Ian already mentioned, posts that are closed become eligible for deletion after 48 hours. There are two exceptions: users with 20k+ reputation can cast delete votes immediately after closure if the post's score is at -3 or lower. The second exception is that moderators can always immediately cast a binding delete vote on a closed question, regardless of its score or its closure date (or even whether it is locked).
 
Probably more info than you cared to learn, but the lines in the timeline also indicate the reason voter chose for close votes.
 
@TylerH I though moderators can cast a binding delete vote on any question, regardless of the closure status.
 
@user16217248 I think they have to close it first.
which they can also do unilaterally at any point
@IanCampbell Slight correction: it shows the close reason ultimately chosen by the system -- it does not specify which close reason each user chose.
 
9:32 PM
Not difficult for a moderator to just cast a binding close vote
And then a binding delete vote
 
@TylerH It does for moderators
 
@IanCampbell oh, yes, I thought you were talking about what was visible for normal users
 
:facepalm:
 
There is a delete link on open questions for moderators. I'm not sure if it automatically closes the question if you click it.
 
@IanCampbell brb, making an account on Medical Sciences.SE to ask about brain microchips in the COVID vaccines real quick for you to test this on... :-P
 
9:35 PM
It doesn't.
 
Haha
I was looking through deleted:1 closed:0, but all I could find was Roomba
 
Moderators (including Community) can delete open questions
We just almost never do
 
Post authors of course can delete open questions
 
Oh, I forgot about deleted-non-closed
for roomba
that makes sense
but yeah, I should have remembered that it is just exceedingly rare for a moderator to delete a post that isn't already closed
other reasons notwithstanding like spam destruction, etc.
 
One of the rare use-cases is cross-posting
 
9:38 PM
Oh bummer, I won't post that question after all... it would probably closed as a duplicate of medicalsciences.stackexchange.com/questions/31981/… ...
 
Should I flag ChatGPT content after all or not?
 
the new policy is that you should post ChatGPT content instead
 
Almost as if we should post ChatGPT-generated answers to their posts about ChatGPT-generated answers to give them a preview as to what they're allowing
 
9:48 PM
it was funny on the GPT ban, less so now
 

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