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12:02 AM
@Dharman The account creation and accessed dates are available from the SE API.
 
12:40 AM
@Makyen I wonder if SEDE might still have it as well
 
1:03 AM
@RyanM Hmmmm, my close vote isn't on there, but I definitely cast one from review...can any moderator see what happened to my vote?
 
1:30 AM
I super hate answers that are link-only routers to the manual. Can I flag these as NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/47105187/2943403 they should be, at most, comments under the question. They are the least generous form of a correct answer (when correct).
 
@mickmackusa Shog said that if you stripped the markdown and still get something, they aren't naas.
That one at least say that you "should use X instead of Y"
 
1:51 AM
@Machavity It might. I haven't checked. I'd expect that for filling in the profile page that it would be easier to get from the SE API.
 
@Braiam ...ugh
 
@RyanM Your close-vote was "cleared" by the Community user about 3 minutes after you placed it, which is consistent with what it looks like when you retract your vote.
 
2:23 AM
Interesting, thanks. I didn't think I retracted it, but perhaps I got confused somehow.
 
 
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6:44 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/68689966/… What's the canonical duplicate for trying to import from the standard library while having a source file with the same name in the project?
 
7:14 AM
@snakecharmerb Thanks, those both work. I wish we could canonicalize this, though.
 
@KarlKnechtel Yeah ... the second link is from sopython.com, so is theoretically the canonical, but the first is phrased more generically imo
 
 
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9:12 AM
Morning all. I noticed recently that the user profiles on SO have been redesigned. Is there any info on Meta about the "last signed in" thing? I think it has disappeared, but maybe I just can't see it.
 
@halfer Morning. All about profile change, MSE post.. Some interesting message post on SOCVR 1 2 3
 
@Shree Thanks! Will have a read.
@Shree I may put my thoughts down in a post on that thread. I used the "last signed in" device to determine how many serial-edits I could make on one user. If someone has not signed in for years then I would generally assume they're not coming back, and I could do some super efficient edits in one go. Conversely, if they have recently signed in, I will limit my editing, so they only have a little reviewing to do.
I doubt this change will be undone, but bah, it doesn't half feel like a network Meta proposal would have been useful prior to the change.
 
10:38 AM
@halfer I used that to decide whether to make an edit or not. If someone is online they could roll it back and then I would get into a war.
People are way too overprotective about their posts
 
 
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12:24 PM
Is this question off-topic since it is not (directly) programming-related?
 
@Dharman Yeah, quite similar to me. I still make edits when folks have recently signed in, but I might be inclined to "follow" the post, so I can try to address a rollback.
@Dharman True, though I'd say the worst ones don't care - they might carry on making the same sloppy errors, but they probably don't even review edits made to their material either.
 
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2:25 PM
@snakecharmerb Is there a reason why you didn't just downvote the question?
 
@Dharman No, to be fair - it must have slipped my mind at the time. Would that be enough to roomba it?
 
Yeah, but even without roomba, if you think the question is not good enough to be answered you can freely downvote it
 
3:02 PM
One for the code-as-image Hall of Fame? (OK, so I know I'm cheating but thought it might generate some smiles.)
 
3:29 PM
@AdrianMole that is indeed a magnificent specimen.
 
 
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4:35 PM
The author has asked the same question three times now.
 
 
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6:53 PM
@AdrianMole page not found so unfair :(
 
You didn't miss much.
 
 
dbc
Is this spam, or just NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/68695470 by user16614745
 
@dbc looks like spam to me
 
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8:48 PM
6 questions left Do any of them need to go?
 
None of them seem to be worth keeping. One of them will roomba anyway.
 
9:06 PM
@Dharman Did you find a, "What's the best programming language with which to mess up a perfectly decent UI for a very popular website?"
 
@AdrianMole css but it's actually html
 
HAHA you thought it was CSS, but it was me, HTML, all along
 
CSS isn't a language. It's a system used (often) by HTML.
 
Tell that to gtk
 
Is this comment a bit harsh?
@Braiam Hmm. Wikipedia seems to think it's a language. I suppose it could be one of those very rare occasions on which I was misinformed? xD
 
9:13 PM
I mean, what is a "language" but a mere set of rules to communicate ideas.
 
@AdrianMole Not really.
 
9:31 PM
My guts tell me that this question belong to askubuntu (where it already has been posted) or superuser. Any other opinions? Btw: the rabbithole goes three layers deep...
 
@Turing85 Curious why the status of that is shown as "deleted" ... i.stack.imgur.com/SYud2.png
 
@AdrianMole me too.... I edited the message. Maybe it has to do with that?
 
@AdrianMole FYI, just flag such questions like this in the future to be quickly deleted. A mod flag would do. Don't post them in chat and don't engage.
 
@Dharman But I can't see (or haven't seen) the chain of other similar posts that the commentator refers to. To me, that's a VTC case but nothing more.
 
9:41 PM
fair enough
the comment was trustworthy though
 
@Dharman Which is why I didn't flag it as U/U, and why I asked in here. Now, I can see more, as the said commentator added more information.
 
Yeah, they probably should have flagged it themselves instead of voting to close
 
10:02 PM
@AdrianMole maybe it's the ghost of Terry Davis? 😀 "heads-i-win-tails-you-loose"
 
 
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11:10 PM
@AdrianMole @Turing85 It shows a status of "deleted" because SE's uniform URLs use a URL fragment of a number (#68696256 in this case) to indicate linking to an answer. The URRS decodes that URL as an answer and attempts to get data for that post as an answer. There is no such answer with that post ID, so the SE API returns no data. The only way which the SE API indicates a post is deleted is that it returns no data (i.e. it doesn't actually indicate a post is deleted.
As such, the URRS interprets it as the answer which it's looking for is deleted.
 
11:30 PM
@Makyen No problem. Glad to see you're working on making your scripts responsive. :-P
 
@Makyen so a typical OSI layer 8 error :)
 
:) (both)
 
11:58 PM
@AdrianMole Interestingly, I actually have a "More Responsive" userscript. I initially wrote it a bit prior to when SE first announced they were making changes to make their site "responsive". So, I had mixed emotions when SE announced they were actually doing a responsive conversion (i.e. the timing resulted in making a very considerable amount of work I'd already done worthless). I decided not to release it at that time, because SE was going to invalidate it in the "very near" future.
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[Note: the fact that I had done it is how I know for a fact that there was actually no need to make the massive HTML changes (and the reduction in site individual character) which they stated were required in order to be able to have the site responsive. That doesn't mean that making HTML changes didn't make some things easier, just that they weren't necessary.]
Personally, I've kept using that userscript, because it does some things which I want (e.g. actually uses the full width of wider viewports), rather than having vast spaces of just background color on the sides of the large viewport. However, I've never cleaned out a bunch of cruft from it which isn't really needed anymore.
I've also never gotten around to verifying/making it work with the left-nav displayed all the time.
 
Can a PHP hammer check this question? It seems to me the direction should be reversed. The target has fewer views, answers, votes, etc.
 

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