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12:58 AM
@10Rep Deal with the question.
 
1:20 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Is there a canonical about writing general code in a class, but outside a method? A quick search doesn't reveal one, but that would be a good target to single handedly close questions like that.
 
@cigien Good point -- this looks to be a potential candidate. Of course, I can't dupe-hammer it, since I've already used my CV.
 
No worries, you can use it next time :) I like doing that for C++ questions. Easier than having 2 other users VTC. This seems to be a potential candidate as well.
 
@Braiam Would it qualify to close as "needs debugging details"? That's the first thing that comes to my mind.
 
user4749232
Someone tell me I don't belong here...
 
user4749232
1:37 AM
Oops! I got a ways to go before I get CV review.. wrong door..
 
^ That was very fast, new record perhaps?
 
@10Rep Not very likely. A fair amount of spam gets deleted in less than 20 seconds, in large part due to the number of red flags that are raised automatically by SD.
That one was deleted in 14 seconds. I've seen posts go pink in less than 5 IIRC.
 
 
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@bad_coder yeah, I wasn't asking for his phone number ;)
 
 
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6:05 AM
@tripleee Oh no! Where's it going?
@oguzismail Sad, perhaps, but a valid tag wiki edit. I've approved it. As for their suggestion to make a synonym ("alias tag") of ...that's already the case. It was created way back in December of 2013.
 
 
@CodyGray I skip good proposals because approving is no fun
 
@oguzismail Huh? How is approving not fun?
 
It's just not. I enjoy rejecting more
And leaving closed in the reopen queue
 
Hmm.
I like to do what's most appropriate in the given situation. :-)
 
You're a good boy
 
6:51 AM
What does it means by "[Edit removed during grace period]" (stackoverflow.com/posts/68030482/revisions)?
 
Seems self-explanatory?
They made an edit, submitted it, then edited again to remove what they had added. The system collapses edits that are submitted within a short time period of each other by the same user with no intervening edits, and the net change was "NULL", so the system records it as "edit removed during grace period".
If you're going to ask me "what is that 'short time period'?", I'm going to have to tell you to look on Meta. :-) I don't know for sure. I'd assume 5 minutes, but don't take my word for it.
 
Oh I see, got it. thanks!
It just that I have never seen this type of comment before
 
It's not extremely common, but I'm surprised you've never seen it.
 
Better late than never
 
I suppose so :-)
Fun fact: this actually fixes an old bug where an "undone" edit didn't show up in the revision history at all.
 
7:02 AM
And it is indeed a 5 minutes period according to Shog :)
 
Look at that, something is consistent. Probably an accident. :-)
 
@CodyGray hey! long time no see; all good?
 
@desertnaut Crazy busy. Trying to keep it all together and find time for the things I want to do.
But yeah, good overall.
 
good!
 
How are things with you? Got all the machine learning questions closed yet?
 
7:13 AM
LOL
 
@CodyGray no, new job, so busy myself, too :)
 
@desertnaut Oh, congrats! Shift in focus, or doing the same stuff as before?
 
same stuff, different focus ;)
 
 
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10:03 AM
@karel How do you figure? They're building a kernel. It's very poorly formatted (and perhaps not even a question?), but it's definitely not "general computing".
 
 
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11:10 AM
@CodyGray The menuconfig style in the 3rd (5th) paragraph is a clear giveaway.
The problem at the end of all that is that the user connection stalls.
Nothing programming there.
 
12:14 PM
they are looking for a new name for programming language
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12:49 PM
 
Misclicked in an PYTHON edit review: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/29224577 - the (sole) answeer changed the code to suit his answer, introducing plenty of new spaces into the original code by the asker. Changing the original triangle to a pyramid. If someone has time, please review and decline.
 
@PatrickArtner: I don't see a problem with the edit. The editor just added the code marks
 
@PatrickArtner we will review but in general we prefer you leave out what you want the outcome to be.
 
The side-by-side markdown comparison is needed here.
 
@ThomasWeller they added a bunch of spaces to the strings, right?
ah, yeah
that is tricky
 
1:44 PM
IMHO not, because it says "8 identical lines skipped"
 
Doesn't matter anymore
 
right
 
The editor didn't change any spacing themselves. In fact the code tagging was necessary to display the markup the way the asker intended it
 
2:09 PM
@rene Expect some grief on Meta, eh?
 
always.
Let me get there first ....
 
@rene @tyl tHanks for educating me - in future I'll probably hit the edit link for all reviews.
 
2:25 PM
@PatrickArtner from the review page, usually the markdown view should be sufficient
no need for an extra click :-)
 
2:41 PM
this is an answer, but according to the answer rm -rf vendor command will delete the vendor directory. How to handle this type of answer?
 
You can downvote answers you don't find useful
 
Is there a limit on revisions? I was unable to find a meta post
 
@Vega You mean that a post could no longer be edited?
 
Yes. As you asked, it seems that the answer is 'there no limit'?
 
Probably maxint or something
 
2:53 PM
I don't know, but I can't imagine there being a limit that could be reached in practice
I believe, at least for answers, there was a point when it is (or was) automatically converted to community wiki
 
@JeanneDark I wasn't aware of it, thanks for the info. As for the questions, yes, it makes sense
I saw a post edited by the OP 22 times and was wondering if it could go up
 
If I'm not mistaken, questions can only be made community wiki by mods
 
@TylerH Revisions are UUID AFAIK. There's no limit per post, but a global number of revisions.
 
3:13 PM
@Braiam ah yeah they are guids/uuids, they only have an incrementing ID contextual to the post they belong to
 
@Vega See my response to Tyler above.
@PatrickArtner Eh? I don't get it. The original revision had the spaces, just that because how the text post is rendered, they were collapsed into a single space. The code tag only made those spaces apparent.
The source has those spaces stackoverflow.com/revisions/…
 
4:05 PM
@Braiam yep - I was fooled by the display.
 
4:42 PM
Could this be answering the question?
 
@JeanneDark It looks like a question to me.
 
Thank you
 
5:01 PM
@Braiam Thank you! Sorry, but I don't really get it. 'no limit per post' - of revisions? 'the global number of revisions' - per post?
 
@Vega The limit is whaever the maximum number of UUID, there isn't a per post limits of revisions but a global limit (ie. a single post can have all possible revisions, or one post for every possible revision)
 
I got it, thanks!
 
6:17 PM
@PatrickArtner hello o/ good to see you in chat :D (You answered one of my first SO questions.)
 
 
7:03 PM
@Braiam no. revisions go into PostHistory that has an int type as primarykey so 2^32-1. There is indeed a revisionguid but that is used to group the several records into posthistory for title, tags and body to one revision. maybe relevant: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/87224/…
 
@rene Oh, cool
I was going by what was exposed on the timeline/revision history
 
Yeah, I can imagine you get a different impression from that. Took me a while to figure out how it worked as well.
 
7:23 PM
Does this question have anything to do with why3 or did OP just added it because he was asking why??
 
doesn't appear so
even if they happen to be using it, the question isn't about it
 
@oguzismail why? indeed ... the tag can be removed
 
thank you both, removed then. or.. should I have gone ahead and create and too? 🤔🤔🤔
 
Try meta first ;)
 
I'm afraid of drowning in downvotes
 
7:40 PM
don't worry, you won't beat any of the most downvoted posts
 
@oguzismail You get your meta for nothing and the votes are free
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8:33 PM
@Braiam this answer convinces me, everyday I know less. (cc @Vega)
 
8:45 PM
@bad_coder rene said no, and actually provided evidence.
 
9:05 PM
@rene aha, so I was right
oh, well actually I said maxint but I was thinking the -2m to 2m range
 
9:43 PM
^ Also, it's that guys birthday for some reason
 
rare NAA from a (former) moderator on that post too
 
@Braiam Huh? Menuconfig is part of kernel development; that seems like programming to me.
@TylerH Solved that problem by converting to a comment.
@Dharman Does that question need a merge with what you've closed it against?
 
I thought we don't merge willy-nilly
 
We try not to do anything willy-nilly.
 
I figure Cody asking was his attempt at avoiding willy-nilly...
 
9:57 PM
All questions I was able to find around this topic are in appalling state
 
Time to create a canonical and merge/close all other questions?
there goes the weekend...
 
e.g. This is a comment stackoverflow.com/a/1114520/1839439
Not an answer
 
@CodyGray No, the part that he's having trouble is that after compiling the kernel to use the modem, it stalls. The problem isn't building the kernel, it's that while successful, something goes wrong. Who knows, it could be the ISP problem.
 
This is outright wrong answer stackoverflow.com/a/13845603/1839439
Which the next answer points out and fixes
 
@Dharman At least it provides the name of what to search for
 
9:59 PM
I ain't gonna search for that
I'd understand if they recommended PHP-Carbon
but not some Zend module
 
Ah, it's not relevant to the problem, is what you are trying to say?
 
I have no idea. Never heard of it
@CodyGray So, no. I wouldn't merge it
 
Sounds like something where there is a lot of confusion and really needs some good answers.
 
The ones mentioning Intl are the good ones
And there is one on each question already
 
Setting the locale just to output a formatted date seems like a very bad idea.
Is there really no way to pass a locale to the format function?
What I'm saying is, that if I didn't know the answer, this looks like a giant, unhelpful mess to me.
 
10:06 PM
The answer is just use Intl
 
(And, I don't know the answer, or the technology, so this is something I can see myself searching for, were I left to maintain something like this.)
What's "Intl"? I don't see that mentioned in any of the answers...
 
@Braiam Oh, I see. So the question just really buries the lede. :-)
 
TIL how to spell "lede". I feel like my education has failed me.
 
@CodyGray Under like 30 paragraphs of irrelevant information.
 
10:14 PM
@IanCampbell You need to get the lead out.
 
Indeed
 
kids these days have a lede foot
 
Our generation lead badly
 
:-c
 
10:56 PM
For information: probably just NAA, but the content reminds me of some spam seen before stackoverflow.com/a/68041132/2227743
 
@EricAya That definitely looks like spam.
 
@CodyGray Yeah, I couldn't find a reference but I'm pretty sure I've seen these sentences in spam posts before
 
@EricAya You don't have an encyclopediac memory of all the spam you've ever seen? Well, fortunately, we do. ;-)
 
@CodyGray Ahah :) I didn't know of this page, looks interesting.
 
Oh, it's very useful. You will become the all seeing eye of Spamron
 
11:09 PM
Oh, you haven't heard of the Charcoal project? It's a community-directed effort to watch all incoming posts across the entire SE network and use a series of regexes and other heuristics to detect and flag spam for removal.
Several of the SO moderators are very heavily involved (i.e., are founders and/or maintainers), and many of the rest of use it.
Background reading: How does spam protection work on Stack Exchange? on the SO blog, written by ArtOfCode, one of the folks who is actually involved with Charcoal (i.e., not an SO/SE employee). And the MSE question that kicked it off.
 
Thanks. I had already seen the name Charcoal but didn't realize there was all this data publicly available, in such a convenient form.
 
Right? Who needs Lorem Ipsum generators anymore when you can get actual spam?
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