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8:00 PM
Provably incorrect answer stackoverflow.com/a/35619532/2943403 but the user defends post with [but people find it useful]. This is a most common rebuttal. How can this site have any chance of curating good content when incorrect answers are upvoted into invincibility? Grrrr.
 
@mickmackusa I am not fluent in php, thus I cannot validate the author's claim, but the question was modified after the answer in question as been posted.
 
@mickmackusa Maybe suggest that the poster deletes their answer? Unlikely to work, considering the rep. loss, but ...
... or is rep. maintained even for self-deleted answers?
 
@AdrianMole I am pretty sure that self-deleted answers will result in a reputation loss, at least if the answer is relatively fresh.
 
The requirement to retain dots and commas has been consistent in every edit.
 
The answer being discussed is well past the +3 and 60 days limits.
 
8:09 PM
 
@AdrianMole I know.
 
@mickmackusa It seems that the answerer actually agrees.
...why don't you politely suggest a self-deletion? If there's a -290 (or whatever) rep. change, the poster can always undelete.
 
This is the same problem as here: stackoverflow.com/a/37500756/2943403 There is a snowball effect that detracts from correct answers on the page and potentially confuses researchers or wastes their time reading bad advice.
 
... site curation can sometimes be achieved through diplomacy. I have succeeded (a very few times) to get high-rep folks to delete pointless answers through sensible argument.
 
@mickmackusa One of the main failings of SO is that after a page or so of answers, the noise to signal ratio really starts suffering. Whats even worse is that the likelihood of there being something interesting in there is high for multi page questions, but there are many answers like the one you've identified which detract from that.
 
8:15 PM
@AdrianMole Unless the post is score <3 or <60 days old reputation from any deletion is kept
 
@Braiam Your "and" should be an "or".
 
^ I was just about to write that. Ninja'd by a mole!
 
... but that works for Roomba, Community-deletes and votes; but I don't know if self deletion works the same way. I have a post of my own that I could try on, but I may lose 30 reps. :(
 
@AdrianMole Don't you get it back when you un-delete? Wonder if you get it twice if it's not lost on a delete, but you get it back on an un-delete xD
 
@Scratte hehe
 
8:19 PM
I just tested. You do not loose the reputation.
 
My reputation is 4566 on SU, I just deleted a +80 answer superuser.com/users/235569/braiam
 
unless there is a delay until rep loss hits
 
@Turing85 There's no delay. I lots my reputation points the instant I deleted my post.
I do not think it was because I just happened to delete it while some reputation script was running.
 
Forced a recalculation by downvoting (negative changes always trigger a recalc) didn't lose the reputation.
 
@eyllanesc User has already posted the exact same question which was closed earlier
 
8:28 PM
Is this blue new contributor banner on Answer boxes new or did I just not notice it before?
 
Zoe
It's old. really old
 
@DavidBuck What post do you mean? Please be specific as I do not keep a record of all my actions.
 
@eyllanesc The one I replied to - immediately above my message
Just writing a comment now
 
@DavidBuck okay, I see, but it closed anyway, why the question? what is your goal?
 
@eyllanesc I noticed you asked previously. If you click on the little arrow the UI takes you to the message and highlights it in yellow for a little while.
 
8:32 PM
@eyllanesc @DavidBuck are you up for re-opening and then closing the question as duplicate?
 
@eyllanesc It wasn't question - it was merely an observation
 
@DavidBuck okay...
 
@Turing85 No. I don't think there's any value in this case.
 
@AdrianMole I'm pretty sure it is both, not either
 
@TylerH The keyword there is "unless!"
 
8:39 PM
@AdrianMole yes, a post has to be both 3+ score and 60+ days old for rep to be retained upon deletion
 
Hehe - "unless" is just an English language version of the ! operator...
 
@AdrianMole the unless/not operator is not the issue here
 
^ Not really spam, but if folks close it, I can delete-vote.
 
the issue is the conditions that follow
 
@TylerH If a post has less than 3 score or is less than 60 days old, you lose the reputation points.
 
8:43 PM
(I'm out of close votes, btw.)
If we want it gone. Roomba will eat it in 10 days.
 
Roomba won't since it has an accepted answer
 
But I'm drifting into bad vibes, so I'll shut up.
 
The question is capable of deletion since it is a '3 years old' question
 
@Braiam Misunderstanding which post I was referring to?
 
@Dharman This one.
 
8:50 PM
^ That one.
 
Ah
 
It's officially requestable but not yet deletable.
 
But why delete it now?
 
No big deal, either way. I seem to end up the day with more delete votes than close votes.
CVs get burnt in review queues; DVs don't.
 
I can't see the code
what have they done
it's all black
no colors
 
8:55 PM
^ Poor signpost. But your code issue is unrelated to the post.
 
@Dharman Can you post a screenshot. Mine is not all black. dark mode & light mode
 
@Scratte Yes: imgur.com/a/5I79ep2
That 4 is a different color
 
@Dharman There are 4 different colours. Black, gray, blue and red.
 
aha
There are 4 primary colors: dark grey, black, dark blue, dark red
Yet the combination of them yields beautiful black image.
 
So.. we need a user script to make dark.. less dark? :)
 
9:09 PM
I will order caps: "Make dark less dark again"
 
It seems to me that one just needs to redefine the colours for all classes that start with "hljs". Unless they make colours for every language, but I did not check that yet.
 
See this? stackoverflow.com/a/37097089/1839439 Why is the formatting broken?
 
@Dharman what exactly is broken? Looks fine by me
 
The first two code blocks should be highlighted the same, no?
 
9:18 PM
@Dharman Somehow the first block is in bash
 
huh... ok.
 
I am in bash my head against the wall mode
It looked much better when they spoke of it on Meta.
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There have been some issues with highlight.js. I've noticed some in C++ as well
 
Now this is like getting deflated balloon
 
@AdrianMole There's a reason why requests for downvotes are not permitted. Please don't post things that could be interpreted as requests for downvotes. I can understand your frustration, but just ... don't.
 
9:22 PM
Well.. the syntax highlight is at least a little broken. old versus new. Looks the first 8 in the new. It has the old colour, whilst the other numbers are more orange. reference post
 
9:47 PM
@FOX9000 so... what about that edit? Reject it due to offensive summary? The edit in and of itself looks ok.
Or "improve" it?
 
Good questions. Not sure if we want an offensive edit summary. Hopefully a mod will see and weigh in.
 
Moderators can redact the edit summary
 
neat
 
@Dharman welcome to the club friend... :\
 
10:03 PM
@Turing85 Reject it obviously. If the system tells you to improve more then you must listen. There was so much more that they could have improved.
 
10:35 PM
@Dharman The system is dumb many times. I mean, why a closed question shouldn't be deleted if it has more than 2 comments?
BTW, SE was toying with the idea of removing that restriction awhile back
 
@RyanM Not that I really want to request stars on my own messages, but given the number of people who are wondering what happened with the code highlighting, starring or pinning this or something similar might be helpful.
 
@RyanM Not enough socks? :)
 
@Scratte In Python self and cls aren't highlighted which goes against what most prevalent IDE's are currently doing. But ohh well, since the syntax highlighter is 3rd party there's not much that can be done except post a feature request on github.
 
@bad_coder Can you post a link to an example? Never mind :) I found one :)
:50538362 Yes. You can't get that with the new syntax highlighter. It doesn't even see it as a keyword. Use the []() :)
 
@bad_coder Are you sure both are explicitly set to python?
 
@Braiam Absolutely, I posted this on the python chat (a few hours ago) and everyone confirmed it.
 
re-tread of accepted answer: stackoverflow.com/a/27940299/2943403
 
@Braiam There's an intricate technical reason that can justify the style choice in terms of language, but nevertheless goes against all prevalent trends (newbies will be the most estranged, I'd never seen something like that).
 
I see that "this" is still a keyword in Java. But.. that dark blue looks black.. if they persist with this, I'd consider it so much a regression that I'd have to make a user script or some CSS changes to fix it.
 
11:09 PM
@Scratte The right place to post feature request would be the higlighter's github...But so far it does seem like a regression (and for the most common languages :P )
 
2 hours ago, by Braiam
@Dharman Somehow the first block is in bash
It can be that it's recognizing the wrong language for a code block
But I need more evidence for that.
 
@Braiam I just tested the python thing. I added a python to a ``` and the self is not highlighted. There's no maybe.
 
@Dharman Seems "white" to me :P (a lot of white...)
 
@bad_coder I think Stack picked the colours, no? I see a lot of var(--black-500) :)
 
@Scratte MMmmmm, dunno. If the colors are configurable they might be in for a lot of "feedback" (X times number of languages)...
@Scratte First poster on Meta gets 100 votes :D
 
11:13 PM
@bad_coder No. I think they just put different elements into into categories. All keywords are then given one colour and all strings another colour...
@bad_coder I don't need 100 votes btw. Just 22*3 close votes for my pending flags :D
 
@Makyen Sincere apologies!
 
@Braiam I'm not aware of being able to redact an edit summary. We can change a suggested edit from approve to reject, or reject to approve, both only if there's been no intervening edit, but I haven't seen anything about redacting edit summaries.
@AdrianMole np
 
^ What I did/said was out of order. I understand that and will try not to do so again.
 
@Scratte That link was good, I left a comment. My guess is they'll change the current color scheme to something "richer". Consensus seems to be going that way...
 
@AdrianMole Thank you. I appreciate that.
 
11:27 PM
@bad_coder I think you may be mistaken consensus with action. But I hope you are right. I'd like some rich colours. Something like your hair would do fine for orange :)
 
hee hee
 
@Scratte meee meee meeepphh me?
@AdrianMole 😱
 
hoo hoo
 
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