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12:30 AM
@MarioGalic That post will automatically be deleted by community in 10 days. Why ask that one of us specifically vote to delete it when this is not necessary?
 
Still learning the ropes. Please ignore the request. What event takes place after 10 days?
 
@MarioGalic Roomba will automatically delete the question since it has been closed and has no visible answers
@MarioGalic Please read this link regarding Roomba and automatic deletion of some questions.
 
1:15 AM
If you think a user in an SD report has additional problematic content, Charcoal HQ is the place to raise it
 
1:31 AM
@10Rep Just to reiterate what Ryan said, please don't moderate users
 
@halfer Yeah, I seem to recall needing to post an answer there.
 
@MarioGalic You may want to ask an RO to remove the request?
 
1:46 AM
@Dharman sorry, was away til now. Yeah that one lacked sufficient code — OP said “We already set access-control-allow-origin” but didn’t show the server-side code they are using to set the CORS config. Still, I probably should have stripped out the “no code” part — the request generator added it automatically (because the OP didn’t use a code block); I just didn’t take the time to remove it.
 
2:14 AM
@Vega Do I just flag for moderation my own message?
 
@MarioGalic Just ping the most recently active RO with a link to the message you want removed. Definitely don't flag it: socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-mod-flag
(memorizing the ROs' avatars is quite useful to picking them out of the userlist when determining which one to ping. At the moment, Makyen (galaxies) is most recently active.)
 
@MarioGalic I can't say more that Ryan M said :)
 
@Makyen Please remove my del-pls request as it was unnecessary since roomba would take care of it automatically chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/50175806#50175806
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
Hey, new mods -- are you having fun? Is gaining moderator status worthwhile? How much work are you having to put into the job?
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I am truly curious
 
2:45 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Not much apparently, I have 4 pending flags from yesterday
 
@oguzismail You don't know what the denominator is though. What if your 4 flags are 4 out of 4,000?
 
3:00 AM
@MrUpsidown Yes, those are... rather low quality questions. You dumped a bunch of code and asked for someone to debug it for you. While that is on topic here, it doesn't make for a particularly interesting or useful question. It's extremely localized, very boring to answer, even more boring to read... Why do you think either one of those should get upvotes?
@MrUpsidown Not necessarily saying that you should shorten it. I have no idea whether it is a minimal amount of code or not. Maybe it is. But that doesn't make the question any more useful or interesting. You're still just dumping code here and asking for people to debug it. I see no reason whatsoever why that question would be interesting or useful to others, and therefore no reason why it should be upvoted.
You seem to be operating under the (unfortunately relatively common) misapprehension that Stack Overflow is a "debug-my-code" help desk. It isn't.
@oguzismail Pretty sure it's not, otherwise I would have left a long time ago.
When you spend your days digging through a garbage bin, you do have to occasionally take a step back and realize that the world is bigger than your garbage bin.
@DanielWiddis Please don't joke about these types of things, especially not in here.
@TheMaster You should not post either of those quoted phrases as comments. They are useless noise. You're yelling to an empty room, asking if anyone is there. If someone wants to leave a comment suggesting improvements to your post, they don't need any inducement in the form of prior comments.
@akrun Again, "why the upvote?" comments are merely yelling at an empty room. They are no better than "why the downvote?" comments. The voter is long gone. More importantly: Voting is not to be discussed in comments. Voting is anonymous and confidential.
 
Good morning
 
@RyanM This is very sad, honestly, and I believe using the site incorrectly. Downvoting low-quality answers that you're "relatively confident will be deleted" is great, and you should keep doing that. But when subject-matter experts are not downvoting low-quality answers that "repeat cargo-cult answers that fix common problems without figuring out if they fix this problem"... that's an epic fail. Those are the answers that moderators can't or won't delete, so they will stick around.
And they'll look helpful and relevant because no subject-matter experts bothered to cast downvotes on them. This is worse than almost anything else for the health of the site and the usefulness of the resource. So, at the risk of offending you, I come around again to reiterate my original point that people who are averse to downvoting because of the fear of rep loss don't truly care about (or haven't truly considered) content curation.
I have no real objections to lifting the rep loss encountered for downvoting answers. If I could flip a button and change this, I would have done so, if for nothing else than to run an experiment. But I don't have access to this button, and I really think that this is a trivial enough loss of reputation to be, well, trivial. Not something that should stop anyone from downvoting an answer that is truly incorrect or not useful, in their expert opinion.
 
3:36 AM
For what it's worth, I mostly agree: I'm using the site incorrectly because I'm punished, however trivially, for using it correctly. I'll even half-agree with your point about people who are averse to downvoting because of the rep loss: I care more about my ability to obtain additional curation privileges than I do about putting a negative score on low-quality answers to low-traffic questions that I doubt more than a couple dozen people will ever see, because I think that's more useful overall.
 
@Dharman What do you mean by "anonymous votes"? Do you mean the votes cast by users without actual voting privileges? No, mods don't see those.
 
I also often comment with why they're wrong, for which I'm not penalized, so they would not look helpful: 0 upvotes on the answer and a comment (often with upvotes) that says it's wrong.
@KenWhite I'm quite skeptical that question has enough info to be answerable even on the correct site
 
3:51 AM
@JohnDvorak ’morning
 
4:02 AM
@RyanM Probably true. I didn't recommend migration in my CV to the post itself; I just voted to close as "General Computing" instead.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Applying logic and reason like that makes it much harder to dump on the mods and call us lazy...
@RyanM If only people read comments, you might have a point.
 
5:06 AM
 
@MrUpsidown a question you close voted is subject on Meta: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/400169/578411
 
6:19 AM
@CodyGray I don't agree. I'm sorry but what's wrong with prior inducement? Yes they can if they want to. But a prior request doesn't seem to be a bad idea. The downvote tooltip is vague. What's unclear? Which part of the question? If you're a seller and you're selling something and people just see it and talk to among themselves and leave. What's wrong with a paid survey?
 
 
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7:22 AM
@Nick That'll roomba in 10 days, does it need to be deleted sooner?
 
@RyanM wasn't sure about that. No it doesn't. Could an RO please remove the request?
 
cc @Makyen ^
@Nick May I recommend the wonderful Roomba Forecaster?
 
@RyanM if only I was running userscripts...
 
7:46 AM
@Nick So you're still getting those instant pop-ups on the voting buttons that cover "half" of the posts?
Do we close Questions that posts code and asks to explain it? And if so, with what reason?
I'm looking at a small program, not a small snippet.
 
@Scratte Needs More Focus, usually: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/253894/…
wow that's a chain of dupes
here's a better one, though less specific to code dumps: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/271468/…
At any rate, the consensus is clear: close 'em. If they want to ask about a specific part, that's fine, but "explain what this code does" is rarely that, even when it's one line (because it's usually missing context).
 
8:02 AM
Hmm.. I see the arguments :) The Question wan't to know how the algorithm works though. Sorry, I wasn't clear on the details :D
 
@Scratte what's the question?
 
@RyanM It's this one
 
@Scratte Yeah, that one's 100% close-worthy. What part of the logic are they confused about?
 
But in case they do supply with the information, I was wondering if that would be an OK Question, since.. well, they're asking how it works. I assume it's not possible to understand how half of it works.
Oh..
 
@Scratte Plus also your comment about it not being self-contained: what is this even supposed to do?
 
8:13 AM
In this case it would also need details or clarity
 
@RyanM What does this code do? What is it suppose to do? That's explained in the link, but not in the Question. Ohh.. you weren't asking me what I meant :D
 
@Scratte yep :-)
 
My comment isn't the end though, because they could very well explain it and that doesn't fix the Question. So I was contemplating giving them more stuff to address.
 
@Scratte 'fraid so...
 
8:34 AM
@RyanM Should it be mod-flagged?
 
@Vega I did
 
Good :) I am trying to read useful parts of that answer, but there are not many apart from the links, aren't they?
 
8:53 AM
@Vega ehhhhhh I normally don't like answers that are just "use X library," but when the library's raison d'être is "solve this exact problem" I'm less inclined to complain.
 
9:08 AM
Is this python? Question on topic? I mean one could argue that whatever random function they use isn't random enough, but.. ? Hmm.. python tag was just removed.
 
@Scratte off-topic
 
@JeanneDark Thank you. You're a better reviewer than I am ;)
 
@Dharman I just found another possible long lost cousin.
This one has an analog retro end-of-transmission feel...
 
I miss those TV-signals..
 
9:31 AM
^^ details or clarity ("Please check the above link") (SD report)
 
@TylerH a question that you voted to close is being discussed on Meta
 
10:13 AM
 
@Scratte yeah 500 channels 24/7 non-stop is sick...I miss those end-of-transmission signals.
 
@bad_coder I don't even have a TV anymore :)
 
@Scratte How do you decorate the wall in from of the couch? ;)
 
@Vega with a bookshelf?
 
Extremely
 
@Adriaan indeed, sorry
 
11:40 AM
@bad_coder I'd say that needs focus rather. "Can anyone help me achieve the same in R" does not ask for recommendations
 
@Adriaan yes I thought about "needs focus" but the question title is:"how to do n-grams in R?"
 
@bad_coder What sort of recommendations is that asking for that are off-topic? (I agree that it needs more focus, though)
 
@Vega I have a painting :)
 
@bad_coder mhm, that's not a recommendation. How-to questions are explicitly allowed on SO, if they adhere to all the other rules (Most are too broad, like this one, but some very small and specific ones which can be solved by a standardised one-liner are OK)
 
@Adriaan issue being: it will probably lead to "opinion based". Answering you question, the same in Python would lead to answers in half a dozen libraries and even more methodologies...
 
11:45 AM
@bad_coder Whether a library can solve the problem or not is irrelevant. Most "How to" questions in javascript get answered by "Here's JQuery!". That's fine. It's ok to recommend a tool (provided you're not spamming it), as long as you demonstrate that it works to solve the problem. On the other hand, explicitly asking for recommendations leads to an opinion based spam fest of different libraries people like or don't like.
Shog wrote a good meta post on it at some point, of which the above attempts to be a summary
 
@Adriaan explicitly asking for library recommendations, I'd phrase that as
but otherwise +100
Said what I was going to say but better :-)
 
@RyanM nut, also explicitly asking for which programming book is best, where to follow HADOOP-training, or what language is most suited for image processing are off-topic for the same reason
 
@Adriaan haven't seen that meta post. Anyway, the end result would be opinion based. It's fundamentally a "porting question", that doesn't clearly specify what he wants to "port to" (and just a language is, in this case, too broad).
 
@Adriaan Yeah, I meant in the context of specific problems. But good point.
@bad_coder I really disagree: the existence of multiple ways to solve a problem, some of which may involve libraries, does not make it "opinion-based" in the SO sense. In that sense, almost every question is opinion-based: we vote on answers to give our opinion on which solution is best.
 
@bad_coder not really opinion based, just very broad. "I have code in language A, please translate it to language B for me" is not opinion based, just too broad (or needs focus under the new close reason names), as someone would need to put an extraordinary amount of effort into coding that, and it can probably be done in a plethora of ways. Opinion based are stuff like "What algorithm is better?", "Why did Oracle decide to no longer make Java free" etc
 
11:50 AM
@RyanM examples given thus far by you both aren't sufficiently domain specific. And NLP is domain specific. His question is: What libraries to use.
 
@bad_coder No, it's not. The word "library" isn't even mentioned in the post. To quote the question: "Can anyone please help me perform the same thing in R?" That's translation, not recommendation, nor opinion based. Just plain old "Do my work for me"
We are still talking about the same post, right?
@bad_coder I understand that if you have NLP knowledge an answer boils down to "You can use library A, B or C", but as mentioned, solving something with a library is fine. Asking "What library can I use to perform NLP" is fundamentally different, in that it will most likely result in people advocating either library A, B or C, leading to opinionated voting. I am pro-A, so will downvote answers advocating B and C because I don't like them.
Answering this question, OTOH, with a library is fine, because you can demonstrate in a technical way that it works. Nothing opinionated about that.
 
Just gonna let Adriaan make all my points for me, but better :-) Agreed 100%
 
Morning
 
o/
 
12:03 PM
\o
 
Am I wrong about this question being off-topic? Not even the tag fits.
 
@JeanneDark It looks extremely off-topic. Unfortunately, there were already two close votes for "needs details" and "needs more focus", so I couldn't pick the correct close reason.
 
Thank you!
 
@janw Those aren't wrong either, IMO :-) It's totally unclear. If they wanted a programmatic solution, it would need more focus. And since there's no indication they do, it's also off-topic due to not being about programming.
 
@RyanM Fair point, this is why I decided to go with "needs details", too :)
 
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12:09 PM
The autocomments need to be updated, specifically the ###[A] Vandalize your post to change "you've granted a non-revocable right, under the CC BY-SA 3.0 license" to "you've granted a non-revocable right, under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license"
 
Leaving an explanatory comment was a good idea!
I wonder - if there is a tie between two standard close reasons, can I, as third close voter, still pick a custom close reason?
 
Yes, of course. In this case the first closer reason will be shown, IMO
But your comment will be there, too
 
This question looks suspicious to me - off-topic?
 
@Vega Oh ok, I kinda expected that the last close reason is chosen. But if the custom close reason comment stays, everything is fine
@JeanneDark Looks like customer support to me
 
That was also my suspicion
 
12:17 PM
@JeanneDark Questions that require predicting the future to answer accurately are off-topic. Also, Google employees are notoriously reluctant to comment on roadmaps. (sorry for triple ping)
 
Definitely belongs to some support forum, not Stack Overflow
 
Why is this Question getting closed?
 
@Scratte For being Unclear / Too broad
But I think it can be kept open
 
That is very strange. I find it perfectly clear.
 
Yeah, it is answerable, and not too broad if it only refers to *...* replacements
But likely a duplicate of some parsing question
 
12:25 PM
I just went "Looks OK" in Triage on it. Lets see how long I get to review now..
 
@Scratte So I shouldn't add a third close vote to it? ;P
 
@janw Not unless you think it's off-topic :)
But if you want the review, I can paste it :D
 
Please no :D
I try avoiding Triage... ;)
 
C'mon.. be can be suspended together :D
 
:D Ok, so I open the review, click "Looks Ok", and then close the question?
 
12:29 PM
If you want to be sure to be review-suspended, you click on "Requires Editing". I don't think anyone clicking that has avoided a suspension :D But I think someone will be very confused if you close the Question after reviewing it as fine ;)
 
I haven't been able to find a good duplicate, yet. But there must be one, as it is basically identical to BBCode/Markdown parsing
Machavity hammered it.
 
@Scratte It's a duplicate. Splits the difference :P
 
Yeah, that was the duplicate I was looking for!
 
@Machavity But users are not closing it for being a duplicate, are they?
 
No, but that doesn't mean it's not a duplicate either
 
12:36 PM
That's not what I meant to say though. I still do not understand how anyone could claim that it was unclear.
 
@Scratte Maybe it looked like a "gimme teh codez" question to some since they show no own effort and so they chose "needs details or clarity" (show what you've tried)
 
@JeanneDark Maybe :( I really like how-to Questions. This is making me sad :(
 
@Scratte It's not the greatest of questions, but that's how SO tends to work. The close voters seemed a bit cynical there, but I've been there too, where it's just "close all the things"
It's especially easy in the PHP tag
 
But you changed? So there's still hope for everyone? :)
 
Indeed :)
 
12:41 PM
When did that change happen?
 
When I started hanging out in here tossing CVs. People can and will call you out for the things that don't have to be closed
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That's true (resist urge to link to today's examples on MSO)
 
That's part of why SOCVR forges people into better (non-diamond) mods. We talk about why we want those actions done. It helps shape people into wiser reviewers
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I can't even review and already know that the Skip button is your friend while Requires editing is pure evil
 
@JeanneDark I dunno, some oddballs quite like editing :=D
 
12:49 PM
Regarding the SD report above: Read the last sentence
 
@JeanneDark That questions needs some cleaning up, but it's not red flaggable
Not very professional, but not overly offensive either
 
@JeanneDark I've uBlocked it. I almost hit it the other day by mistake. But.. it is the right button on those very rare occasions, though I'm happy to just Skip on those :)
 
I must have some bad humour.. I found the SD post kind of funny.
 
@Scratte This is still my favorite piece of spam that SD has reported: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/248551
 
I guess this is NAA, although it's not obvious that it is. It is really a negative comment on another answer. Seen from the FP review queue, it looks a bit like an answer. Tricksy.
 
@AdrianMole Not sure either. It really looks like a comment to the last answer
But they write "use" instead of "using"...
 
@janw Translation: That answer is rubbish. Anyone know a better solution?
 
Yeah, I am reading it like that as well
 
1:17 PM
..ninja'd by RyanM on that Answer :) And I even had links to the tour ;')
 
Definite NAA, I think. It's complaining that the other answer is bad and not offering a solution of their own.
@Scratte You can still add tour links :-)
 
Naah.. They're already "Informed" :) Also, there's a room rule about adding comments on posts where someone else (in the room) has posted one.
..found the rule: Only One Member on Post
 
@Scratte That's not a rule, it's a catch. :-)
 
lol!.. I had to let that sit a little before it dawned on me :D
 
Hy Machavity
 
1:27 PM
Hello
 
Hello @Machavity :=)
\o
I'm going to start a Mexican wave of hellos in here.
 
@halfer Well, half a welcome is better than none ;)
 
Hola!
 
Hellos from halfer are always full ones.
 
Konichiwa
 
1:29 PM
Bore da.
 
Yamazaki
 
Ahoy
@SurajRao No more... The OP removed the image
 
@Vega Excessively literal taking of advice: Post technically no longer contains an image of code, because post no longer contains any code.
 
@JeanneDark instant upvote (within 5 views). Spam seed?
 
@Vega Looks like a repairable mess
 
1:40 PM
No, there were more going on in comments and in the post for a moment
 
@Adriaan That's very well possible
 
Yeah, definitely needed a flag, but not a red flag.
 
Well, it's locked now
 
and now deleted too
 
Last edit by OP deserved a red flag IMHO
 
1:41 PM
@Adriaan Just received another upvote
 
@RyanM Was vandalism, so you were right to rollback. There was just more going on there than mere vandalism
 
@Makyen given you closed that face recognition question, I presume there's no need for me to flag for mod attention on a possible spam seed/ring?
 
@Marvin Red flags are, as I understand it, "this entire post needs to be deleted for being unredeemable abuse." Vandalism can be handled other ways (e.g., suspensions, locks, etc.).
 
@Adriaan If you feel there is such, then yes, flagging for it would be good. There's nothing in that post itself which indicates it's a spam seed, so if you have more information, it should be included in a flag.
 
@Makyen well, just as I wrote here; first upvote with 5 views, second with 15. That's a lot of upvotes with few views, for such an off-topic unresearched question. But I guess it might well be like most of what I see from the android tag. "How ged dis effekt?" questions get +10 in no-time from other people who want to obtain the same thing. I'll keep an eye on the user for the time being.
 
1:46 PM
@Marvin If someone vandalizes their post in a rude way, you should mod flag. Rollbacks are appropriate to preserve content, and red flags come without any context. A mod flag lets us know there's something going on in edits
 
@RyanM: "A reasonable person would find this content inappropriate for respectful discourse." sounds to me exactly as what happened there. OP clearly showed no intention for respectful discourse. I've seen a lot worse, though.
@Machavity Noted. But would a "rude or abusive" flag have been plain wrong? Or just the worse of two valid options?
 
@RyanM Thanks for the heads up
 
@Marvin The mod console does not provide you a lot of context and most mods are not going to check edits on a red flag. As such, if you red flag and another user rolls back, we're shown the original non-rude post
 
I see, thanks for the context.
 
1:53 PM
Flagging a post and then casting the final delete vote marks your flag helpful immediately, isn't this a bug?
 
@oguzismail It's how the system works. You can also clear NAA flags by deleting and undeleting
 
@oguzismail probably, but also probably so far down the "meh it's not that bad" list that it will never be fixed
 
The theory seems to be that they don't want people reviewing deleted LQP. Lesser of two evils
 
theoretically at least for LQP votes, you should be prevented from reviewing it if you flag it, as you would be if you flagged outside the queue
 
^ They were trying to fix the fact that you can clear flags by deleting but that didn't go well... they'll probably re-try it.
 
1:56 PM
@Machavity I see an obvious problem with that system
 
^ Yeah
It can be abused
@Machavity How about red flags though?
 
@oguzismail Red and mod flags survive deletion
 
@MarcoBonelli They were trying to do it comment-flags. But they seemed to have cast quite a big net on it.. which made an interesting day, of sorts..
 
so if a user posts something rude, self-deletes with the first auto-downvote and edits to something reasonable, it's the flagger and flagger only that gets punished?
 
@JohnDvorak how is the flagger punished in that scenario? The flagger gets an helpful flag.
 
2:01 PM
@JohnDvorak Same goes when they edit in grace period
 
Flags break the grace period, for this exact reason
 
Cody has said that many mods (but perhaps not all?) check red flags more closely for post history because they're more important flags.
 
@Machavity But they are marked helpful, when the post is deleted, no?
@JohnDvorak Huh? If someone raises a red flag on my post, I cannot edit it?
 
@Scratte NAA and LQP are
 
I had an R/A flag declined because the post was edited in the grace period, so it does happen, though I rarely raise R/A flags.
 
2:03 PM
@Scratte You can, but it records as a separate revision even if you do it in the time window
 
@Machavity Yes, but I was thinking of red flags and moderator flags. Are they not marked helpful when a post is deleted? As in the author deletes it.
@JohnDvorak OK. That makes sense :)
 
@Machavity cc @Marvin In addition, the red flags are cleared if the post is rolled back to a version which is prior to when the red flags are placed.
@JohnDvorak Flags do not break the grace period. There's a feature request for that, but it's not current functionality.
 
ah, shame
 
@Makyen that is a surprisingly clever behavior. By "cleared" do you mean marked helpful? and/or is this documented somewhere for reference?
 
Oh wow. The flag meta-gaming just got more interesting.
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2:06 PM
Thankfully it doesn't meta all that much in the long run.
 
@Scratte You're close. Mods flags can be cleared if a mod deletes the post. If the author does, it doesn't clear. Just confirmed by looking at the queue
 
@JohnDvorak I am sure not, I got a flag declined, because the post was edited in grace period
 
@Scratte You can even mod flag a deleted post. Trickier if you're not 10k, but can be done.
 
@RyanM IIRC, it's helpful, but it's one of the reasons not to edit spam/R/A content. The user's natural inclination is to roll it back, which clears any red flags on the new version, but not any on the older version.
 
@Makyen Good to know
 
2:14 PM
@Makyen So if someone else rolls it back to the version where the flag was set, the flag comes into play again?
 
@Scratte I expect the answer to that is currently no, but I have not tested.
 
I don't believe flags can be unmarked helpful
 
@Andreas Yes, but you shouldn't be red-flagging "an otherwise valid post".
 
2:21 PM
@RyanM They can. It involves some hackery tho, so it's uncommon
 
@Makyen Didn’t seem like the conclusion based on your message. ;)
 
I would think where there's hackery, there's a userscript
 
@Andreas By "spam/R/A content" I meant posts you are flagging as spam or rude/abusive. If the post is repairable, then it's not something you should be flagging as spam or rude/abusive.
 
@JohnDvorak There are things the native interface won't let you do that a userscript can. CMs (and probably devs) aren't keen on them, but they aren't abused so they never get any efforts to restrict them either.
I learned of the "disputed" trick when some clear spam in Charcoal was edited and then declined. Best a mod could do was change to disputed
 
But that is a good outcome for obsessive flaggers :)
What is the preferable close reason on this javascript Question?
 
2:32 PM
It is, but the only reason that happened was Undo was actually paying attention to Charcoal at the time and saw my lament over it.
 
@Machavity Oh. It was your flag?
 
@Scratte NDoC?
 
@Andreas Huh?
 
@Scratte Not just mine (I think we'd gotten it to -5)
 
@Scratte Needs details or clarity
 
2:34 PM
@Andreas Oh. I thought it was clear that they have no idea how to use an access token.
 
@Andreas just say "unclear"
 
Guys, sometimes I flag a question and the flag is marked as helpful, but the question is not closed. Is there some delay implemented?
 
Argh!.. I used the wrong flag :(
 
@akuzminykh A single close vote cast for the same reason marks the flag helpful, but 3 are required to close the question.
 
Your flag is marked helpful when the Question is closed also.
 
2:36 PM
:50181237 Hey. I was writing a comment to the poster.
 
@RyanM Ahh, okidoki.
 
@JohnDvorak - but that’s 175% as long.
 
and 1000x more understandable
 
☹️
 
@Andreas But, you don't have to use the shift key. :)
 
2:38 PM
Closevoted question got 1 reopen vote after "substantial edit" - it contains lots of code, but all are import statements that do nothing. OP pinging me. I am walking away, but it probably will get reopened. Anybody with python wants to take a look? stackoverflow.com/questions/63339291/…
 
@Makyen No, but it’s more comfortable for my fingers, typing out «NDoC»... I won’t have to move them around the keyboard so much.
 
I seem to be the only person always writing things out. "Needs details or clarity" is almost just coming along on it's own now :) But at least people understand me ;)
 
@PatrickArtner I don't do Python, but I agree that looks like a GMTC
 
@Scratte I'm sure we'll shorten it once people get used to it. Probably just to "clarity", "needs details, or "needs clarity", which is "unclear". :)
 
@PatrickArtner I can’t see orig_group defined/initialized anywhere.
 
2:43 PM
Yeah, I still like "Unclear"
 
@Makyen I type it out because some times users ask about how to close and what to pick, so I actually type it out all the way from "flag"-link -> needs improvement -> "Needs details or clarity" :)
 
@Makyen If we switch «needs more focus» back to «too broad», all we need is an «N», since «needs details or clarity will be the only close reason that starts with «n».
Or a «U» for «unclear».
 
@Andreas That is just not a very good abbreviation at all though.
 
@Andreas If we're going to roll back one, why not both? "too broad" and "unclear" were fairly clear, IMO.
 
2:44 PM
+:+1:
 
"Needs debugging details" also starts with an N. Why not use something unambiguous and less "You can only know what we mean if you're part of the group"?
 
@Scratte Clean and simple = good design. 😉
 
@Andreas We could just roll everything into "needs work from OP". :)
 
@Makyen Yeah, that’s the best one.
 
@PatrickArtner This is the corresponding reopen review: stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/26907674
 
2:46 PM
@Scratte «D» Yeah, no, that doesn’t work. «B» for bug, then.
 
@janw how do you get at that so fast?
 
@Andreas Yes, it is missing, the question looks quite unanswerable
@PatrickArtner I filtered by "python" and "closed as needs details", it was the first result :)
 
@Makyen Although, we should probably also have "There's no way possible for this to be an on-topic question without totally changing what's being asked, but it's not spam or rude/abusive, so I can't red-flag it, darn it."
 
@Andreas Hmm.. Impyotil,iyktu :)
 
@Scratte Hey! That’s not simple and clean!
 
2:48 PM
@janw ty - got to remember that
 
@Andreas Iitm :)
 
@PatrickArtner It has two Leave Closed votes on it now. Someone must have robo-reviewed it and seen "bunch of code added" and clicked reopen. Aside from the fact that there's no MCVE, it's also got two questions.
 
@PatrickArtner I did my best in two lengthy comments.
 
@Scratte Is that in Uzbek? Google thinks it's in Uzbek.
 
I never saw any "filter" on CV - I always take what I get and skip what I do not know :D
 
2:49 PM
@JohnDvorak No. It's just my abbreviation of an English sentence :)
 
Ltltatt
 
@Scratte Reminded me a little of Éí 'Aaníígóó 'Áhoot'é for some reason
Although that's not Uzbek, either...
 
@DavidBuck Google has no idea what that is either :)
 
@DavidBuck Is this Navajo?
 
2:51 PM
@JohnDvorak Fun, isn't it? :)
 
@Scratte I just checked that, definitely not Portuguese.
@Dharman Spot on
 
The undecipherable language.. I'd love to learn that :)
 
@PatrickArtner Yeah, it is really hidden, I also only noticed after someone told me. But I like this functionality, since focusing on certain tags makes reviewing a bit more efficient, when my mind is in the right "mode" already :)
 
This is obviously NAA, but is it spam?
 
Oh! I just realized that even a close for a duplicate is marked helpful, even if the Question is closed for another reason.
 
2:54 PM
@DavidBuck I went for NAA
 
@DavidBuck I'd say NAA; first offence and an old account, even though it's the first (visible) contribution
 
OK. Two votes for NAA says I'll change my spam flag...
Too late
 
Huh, mods sniping NAA flags again?
 
@DavidBuck :( So what happened to your flag?
 
@Scratte Helpful :)
 
2:56 PM
Ohh.. Yay :) I think NAA's are fun for moderators. They all have a little Dharman inside :)
 
It’s worth noting the first website linked to is in Portugese, and they have an account on the Portugese SO; maybe it should be checked if they posted the same over there.
 
@Scratte I now only have to get another 7931 helpful flags to get my green status!
 

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