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4:18 AM
I'm confused about this javafx Question. It seems to be off-topic due to a lack of MVE, but it has Answers. Is it a how-to Question in disguise?
 
@sideshowbarker any response to your voting ring flag?
 
@Vickel Yes, it could, but there's no way to tell without more information. That information isn't available to regular users, but is available to moderators. If you have suspicions based on a reasonable inference, then raising a custom mod flag and explaining the situation is the right way to go.
 
4:36 AM
@Nick no response yet about the voting-ring flag. In my flag summary, it still shows up as pending
 
I guess it's the weekend - we'll have to cut the mods some slack. I took a closer look and 7 of the 10 users were created on the same day 15 days ago; the one that has received the most rep was created 6 days ago. It definitely quacks like a duck...
 
@Nick yeah it seems fairly blatant. But as you said, it’s the weekend. Also on top of that, I guess in the US it’s a three-day weekend β€” so hopefully the US moderators at least are actually taking real time off
 
 
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6:17 AM
 
@sideshowbarker Sadly, some of us take time off by moderating Stack Overflow...
 
@CodyGray I'm sorry but over the last few days I hovered several times over the delete button due to comments but also because I felt the answer had a dark tone. Moving to chat was a bit too much honor for that answer. Nothing personal, sorry you had to spend time on it.
 
@rene No worries. The comments everywhere there had been accumulating flags, and I agonized for far too long over what to do. Many of the comments were indeed inappropriate, but deleting them outright would destroy the useful responses that they had gotten, so... Moderating is hard.
I'm happy with the final solution. The parties who needed the information have already seen it.
 
Okay. Thanks for your moderation. It is appreciated.
 
6:38 AM
@halfer The timer itself is not the problem. Yes, monotonic clocks like the ones you use for micro-benchmarking do provide sub-second accuracy, but when you start micro-benchmarking things, you quickly run into Heisenberg-like problems. Other code running on the CPU is affecting the CPU's time slices (at a high level) and its execution engines (at a lower level), so you can't really get trustworthy numbers. Microbenchmarking is hard in the best of cases.
Hint: Ask questions about this; I wish there were more. :-)
The biggest mistake everyone makes is putting print/output statements in their code being timed. That results in just timing the relatively-slow I/O functionality in your language/library. The second mistake made by more experienced would-be-benchmarkers is having the optimizing compiler elide the code they're hoping to time.
 
7:16 AM
@CodyGray I see an XKCD comic there
 
@sideshowbarker Is my life a joke to you? :-p
 
heh
no more than my own is to me πŸ˜‹
@SamuelLiew w00t πŸŽ‰ thanks
 
Fair.
 
The Highest voted part of stackoverflow.com/tools seems to be consistently ~75% c++ questions. I wonder what that says about the c++ community and c++ questions in general … People who follow the c++ tag upvote questions a lot? Or there are just a lot more c++ questions that are upvote-worthy, relative to questions in other tags?
 
C++ questions are also among those commonly cited as severely downvoted. What it means is that C++ users have a very strong eye for quality, and they use their votes liberally to express their opinions. It's a sign that we have a very active and strong C++ community.
 
7:25 AM
I see
yeah other than C++ questions, the languages that show up there quite often are Haskell and Rust
 
I'm less familiar with those communities, since I'm not myself a member of them.
I know Rust has a strong group of core users, but I don't think it's very big, relatively speaking.
An active, voting community is a very good sign.
 
yes, would see like
 
The worst thing that can happen for a Q&A site is nothing. You want questions to get views, votes, and answers.
 
 
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10:01 AM
^can also be see as Tool Rec, since they ask whether they need to do it themselves, or can use a premade program to do the translation
 
10:23 AM
@CodyGray Interesting info, sounds quite scary. I'm happy to be coddled with relatively high-level langs :=)
 
 
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11:30 AM
@halfer Au contraire. High level languages are far more scary, for I have no idea what they are actually doing! How do I know they're not generating bloated, inefficient code behind the scenes? (Spoiler alert: they are.)
 
@CodyGray But it saves "us" from finding out what the computer is actually doing..
 
@Scratte I thought that was the whole fun part of programming
 
@CodyGray :) I think most just wants the computer to do something. How it does it is not important. When it doesn't work out, we hire consultants. Not to tell us why, but to fix it.
When "I" do my java programming, "I" don't even think about memory.. unless "I" get a OutOfMemoryError. Then it's all "Argh.. do I really have to run a profiler now?!?"
 
11:48 AM
"OutOfMemoryError" == "I have a memory leak"
Shouldn't need a profiler for that, any more than one needs a weatherman to know if it's raining.
Of course, if you get in the habit of throwing all of your garbage on the ground, waiting for it to be collected...
 
@CodyGray Sure, but sometimes it does not matter. It's often easier and cheaper for an enterprise to throw more compute capacity at a problem than to rewrite it for efficiency.
 
So sad.
 
Practical! :-)
I am wearing my optimist hat today (and I am eating chocolate fingers, which is another reason to be perky).
 
Would you rather read a novel written by an author that took time to proofread their work, or one that was churned out by a thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters?
Only if they're dark chocolate!
 
If you can get a monkey to write some English, I'd love to read that ;-) ;-)
 
11:52 AM
Run for moderator: we have a whole queue of the things.
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Arf! I'm a keen editor, I read AI-generated gibberish every day...
Don't need to be a mod to bump into that.
(Not dark choc - double dipped in white choc then milk choc. They're going well with my freshly ground coffee).
 
Too bad. White chocolate is terrible, considering it is entirely lacking in the chocolate part.
 
I like chocolate.
 
Well, no-one can stop me enjoying these (semi chocolate) fingers! {cackles}
{chomp, munch, slurp}
 
"I need an api that can analyze questions and answers" That's...not an off-site resource. :-p api.stackexchange.com
 
12:10 PM
Did someone mention chocolate? /me looks around eagerly....
 
@CodyGray I was under the impression that the api only returned posts and meta information, but didn't process it further
 
@Braiam I believe you can post via the API (with certain restrictions/conditions), in which case, the further processing is effectively crowd-sourced.
@JonClements Ooh, yeah, white chocolate is perfect for dogs, since it contains almost no theobromine. We finally found a use for it after all!
 
I'm no ordinary puppy and a masochist on top - bring on the proper choccy! What doesn't kill you makes the vets wealthier as that common phrase goes :)
 
Do you still have your ninja status?
 
Halfer eats more white chocolate and barks eagerly
 
12:18 PM
Cats don't bark...
 
@CodyGray kind of but I thought the costume was a little bland and gloomy... plus - it didn't show off my big crazy blue eyes to their fullest... so...
 
@CodyGray This cat shape-shifts on weekends, it's kind of a hobby
 
We have found a witch, might we burn her?
 
I'll bring the duck
 
@Andras first better make sure none of the regular crowd has just stuck a nose on 'em...
 
12:29 PM
but she turned me into a newt
 
you've clearly gotten better :)
 
12:41 PM
Those really should roomba...
Closed, with all answers having large negative scores
 
They wouldn't cause they are either accepted or duplicate
There is a meta post suggesting to add this to Roomba, but people couldn't agree on actual conditions.
 
Ah, yeah, duplicate.
Duplicates typically shouldn't roomba. But downvotes should probably negate acceptance when it comes to roomba criteria.
 
@CodyGray -2 should override acceptance. Single downvote might be noise.
 
Agreed.
Some day, we will finally agree upon which color to paint the bikeshed.
 
No colour.. just the pure wood look, please :)
 
12:45 PM
 
(Downvotes on the question should matter, too. A heavily-downvoted question should be weighted heavily towards roomba.)
 
We should apply weight to a Roomba. e.g. If the question weighs less than a duck we should delete it.
 
@Scratte What about a stain? There are some beautiful stains, which still preserve the natural grain of the wood...
 
@CodyGray Depends on the stain. I'm not too fond of red-ish looking ones.
 
"You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use..." Wow, RTFM in an error message.
@Scratte I don't mind reddish. Cherry wood is beautiful, for example. What I don't like are the finishes that make wood look orange.
 
12:51 PM
@CodyGray I like cherry too, when it's cherry. But not when it's pine stained to look like cherry. The orange looking finishes are usually old. There's been a lot of improvement, so the stains themselves don't change colour.
 
I see oak stained to look orange far too often.
 
@CodyGray Argh!.. leave oak be. Oak is no nice in it's natural colour. I prefer walnut though.
 
Ok, I am going to get some exercise. TTYL
 
Wait, clicking the "delete" link doesn't count as exercise?
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Going to the store for chocolate does..
 
well it's not wrong
 
1:43 PM
Not really duplilcate (DLL vs source lib). But closeably for lack of clarity concerning this misunderstandable detail.
 
Why can people delvote the same thing multiple times once undeleted (and vice versa)? That's just asking for trouble.
 
@AndrasDeak because it is part of The Loop to determine which users are pedantic ...
 
3:25 PM
@rene ah, The Loop, as in Delete Undelete Loop. Makes sense.
 
@AndrasDeak Because it actually has not caused troubles.
It's not even an autoflag
 
4:15 PM
 
@double-beep Most would say no. I say yes. I go by what Shog9 said and if it is nonsense by 1 rep user I flag as Abusive
In this case all flag types work
 
6:05 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica If the user is plagiarising you should flag. There's probably more posts plagiarised.
 
6:16 PM
I'm out of comment flags again. Just an ordinary Sunday, I guess.
 
@E_net4isunsafe Do you use all 100 flags every day like me?
 
@Dharman Nope, just every Sunday.
 
6:28 PM
 
@E_net4isunsafe Homework Sunday's used to do that to me often, but not so much these days since the lockdown. :P
 
7:03 PM
Director of HR 🤝 people at SOCVR
"Let's see those CVs."
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8:14 PM
@E_net4isunsafe Did you get a job with SE inc.?
 
@Dharman no?
 
Who are you talking about there then?
 
@Dharman A generic human resources manager going like "let's see those CVs"
Do I have to explain it? :(
 
You don't have to, but I think this joke went over my head.
 
8:28 PM
@Dharman probably because it doesn't look like this
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Lol. I got it now
 
I am indeed that buff. Thanks for noticing :P
 
Shirt colour checks out.
 
@Machavity how noble of you to represent all of us here, as well.
 
8:43 PM
@VLAZ Dank you! :)
 
I suggest that from now on we community only using emojis and memes.
 
@Dharman so, is this going to be the new ?
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Good you didn't do
 
user10957435
9:20 PM
I need a second opinion. Look at the comments to this question. Is this someone just trying to troll? Would it be worth some kind of flag?
 
@Chipster I can't see any trace of a single thing worth a flag. Not even NLN flag. Could you be more specific?
Maybe English is your first language?
Maybe the comments got removed by the time I opened it.
Is it about the conversation about the pronouns?
 
user10957435
@Dharman I was thinking this comment: stackoverflow.com/questions/61992348/…
 
user10957435
It's just very unspecific about what the OP did.
 
:O being unspecific is not any reason for flagging a comment.
Anyway, the comment looks very precise to me.
Maybe the "some keys" part is not very clear and could use some details.
 
9:30 PM
@Chipster it's either an extremely weak form of trolling or an extremely advanced troll who pretends they are a new user with some trouble communicating, potentially because English is not their primary language. Or not trolling. Occam's and Hanlon's razors would indicate the last one.
 
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@Dharman Sure, but I'm just thinking of it from a standpoint of is the OP purposely trying to be unhelpful? " I just clicked on imshow() function and press some keys," doesn't answer the question specifically asked. I've seen some trolls that have acted similarly before and just wanted to make sure before I did something about it. Didn't want to pounce too fast when the OP truly meant well and just was confusing.
 
I would not jump to conclusions. Give them benefit of a doubt. If you think it's a waste of time then downvote and move on.
 
@Chipster I don't see any issue with those comments
 
user10957435
@Dharman Well said. Thanks.
 
at least as far as flagging is concerned
 
user10957435
9:33 PM
Thanks everyone. That's why I asked. I wanted some more experienced advice what to do.
 
user10957435
@TylerH Yeah, the question itself is still unclear/un-reproducible IMO, so maybe still worth a CV, but I just wanted to make sure I didn't need to do more. Thanks again.
 
You're doing great. Keep up the good work.
 
user10957435
@Dharman I can't tell, is that directed at someone?
 
Yes, you.
 
user10957435
Ah, okay. Well thanks :D
 
9:43 PM
The POB-Force is strong today
 
user10957435
@TylerH insert Darth-Vader breathing
 
@Chipster Yay, script broke :D
 
user10957435
@Braiam Fixed.
 
@Chipster Noooooo.... :(
 
@Braiam I find your lack of faith in the <s>force</s> script disturbing
lol
 
user10957435
9:54 PM
I just realized I hate suggested edit reviews in dark mode...
 
@Chipster They're not de-light-full?
 
user10957435
:D
 
10:18 PM
 
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10:42 PM
@RobertColumbia Was reading the transcript and thought it was a legitimate request for something. I was confused with the Wikipedia link. Then I read the context and realized what you were doing, lol.
 
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That moment when you find a "classical use case for regular expressions..."
 

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