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12:26 AM
Does this answer have enough explanation to not make it NAA?
 
1:00 AM
@Scratte I flagged it NAA. Without the link, it doesn't really have an answer there. It just hints where the answer might be in the library
 
@Machavity Thanks :)
 
@Machavity And they have done it more than once.
 
@Nkosi But the other answer is probably not NAA because the Question is directly asking for it.
 
I went VLQ as link only answer
 
1:16 AM
I retracted my NAA :)
 
First one just got removed by a mod
 
@Nkosi I find those moderators to be very useful :)
 
1:55 AM
anyone knows if we get notifications from followed posts when they get deleted?
 
I can test it for you. I have a flag on 4 posts..
 
@SamuelLiew So Far I am yet to get one and have not seen any mention of it to date
 
@Scratte follow this answer stackoverflow.com/a/61005522, I'll delete it in 2-3 minutes
 
@SamuelLiew Done
 
What was the verdict?
 
2:07 AM
@RyanM Jury's still out. Give it a few minutes :)
 
are the notifications in realtime or by batch process?
 
I wonder if it's different for users who can/can't see deleted posts.
 
@SamuelLiew I have no idea. Nothing yes, but I didn't see the Answer disappear until 1 minute ago.
@Makyen Good point. You should have followed it too :)
 
@Scratte I didn't see it in time. :(
 
ok, find another post for me to delete
 
I have one more pending flag left. There's 4 post on it in total. stackoverflow.com/questions/45346578/…
 
@RyanM I will be deleting this in 3-5 minutes
 
I've followed it.
 
Followed it as well (although I can absolutely sympathize with the user's frustration with TTS that won't shut up...)
 
Well.. something's a little off. I get a green bobble (with a previous rep change), but no notification :D
 
2:16 AM
@Scratte probably because you downvoted the post and the rep is refunded upon deletion; that has nothing to do with the follow feature
 
@SmokeDetector I never know what to do with these...just edit it out and let them get away with it the (minor) abuse of the system, or flag somehow?
 
@SamuelLiew Oops. I forgot about that. Sorry.
 
(to save a click: the post contains "FILLER FILLER FILLER" except it's a lot more than 3)
 
@RyanM Is the question on-topic if you edit out the filler? If yes just make the edit. If no, VTC
 
@RyanM From Charcoal's POV, the post is FP and should be edited. The opinion of site moderators varies. Some feel that it should be considered R/A (and they feel it's TP for SD), other's feel as above ^.
 
2:22 AM
Is that problem description good? I mean if it's not working, then ask for help. But how is anyone suppose to help with code that didn't change, but was working yesterday?
 
Thanks for the opinions! I edited out the filler, my python isn't good enough to know for sure if that's a reasonable MCVE
Yeah I'm assuming the website changed format
 
nobody got a notification from the deleted answer I guess?
 
no notifications here
 
@SamuelLiew No. If it comes I will let you know.
 
I received no notification. If I'm following something, I'd like a deletion notification. In fact, I would have expected one and might have been my sole interest in following a post.
I wonder if there's a notification for it being undeleted?
 
2:29 AM
Can you view the list of posts you're following? I can't find any option to
 
upcoming feature
not at the moment
 
@Makyen I suppose I can give you one of my answers to follow. Then I can delete and undelete it.
 
@Scratte That could work.
 
@Makyen They this one. If it can't be undeleted, I'm not going to cry :) stackoverflow.com/a/60316245/12695027
 
@Scratte OK following.
 
2:34 AM
..deleted. I'm going to give it a few minutes before undeleting. Can deleted posts be followed or unfollowed?
 
@Scratte No notification so far.
 
@Scratte yes, can be followed and unfollowed (at least by mods), but I see the error message "This post has been deleted; deleted posts can't be voted on", probably because follow/unfollow casts a voteId of 21
(star/unstar casts a voteId of 5, but does not trigger that error message)
also, deleted questions doesn't seem to have a follow/unfollow link, while deleted answers continue to display this option
 
@SamuelLiew That should go in a but report. They probably forgot to include "21".
I undeleted it now..
 
seems like there are no notifications for deletion/undeletion
which is usually what we want to use this feature for
 
Yep. No notifications here either. I agree that delete/undelete are definitely state changes for which I want a notification if I'm following something. I consider them quite important.
 
2:44 AM
At lease rene made it easy to find the post to comment on: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=48974333#48974333
 
3:14 AM
@Scratte Unfollowing is ineffective on deleted posts for me. I get an error banner at the top of the page. The text below the post changes from "following" to "follow", but if the page is reloaded, the post still shows as "following". The same thing, but opposite text, occurs for trying to follow something.
 
now, if the post you are following is deleted, but was edited (by OP or mod), or commented on by a mod, will you get notifications?
 
That's a good question. I'm still following this one, if you'd like to try editing or commenting.
 
done
 
I got a notification for the comment.
 
wow, okay..
edited too
 
3:18 AM
The notification only mentioned the comment.
 
@SamuelLiew I just got a notification, but the post is deleted :)
 
for the comment or edit?
 
How do I unfollow that now? :D I have no idea what post it was.
 
post has to be undeleted to toggle follow/unfollow
 
I'm guessing it was Ryan's post
 
3:29 AM
@Scratte Yes.
 
My table is almost complete. Am I missing something? docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…
 
@SamuelLiew Questions should probably have "answer deleted", which is the corollary of "new answer".
 
thanks
 
And answer undeleted too
New revision on answer on following a question? or just new revision on the question?
 
3:44 AM
on post itself
 
Ahh.. yes. But if I follow a Question, I may want to know if someone edited an answer.
 
do we even get notifications for edited posts if following?
 
I don't know. We didn't test that :)
But it's very useful for checking up on vandalism
..or to find out if a Question has been edited into invalidating one's answer.
 
I have a userscript that fetches and notifies on new public user activity (like new comment/post/edit/badge) using the API if you are currently on their profile page
 
@Scratte No, answer edits are specifically part of separately following the answer.
I agree that answer delete/undelete are reasonable notifications for followed questions, but I suspect they will be categorized as only part of following the specific answer separately. Personally, I think it's also part of question status.
 
4:18 AM
@SamuelLiew If you are following a post you get notified for edits and comments
For questions you get notified for edits, comments, when answers are added.
on answers you get edits and comments
so far, nothing for (un)deletes.
 
@Nkosi In addition, our testing earlier showed that while an answer is deleted, you get notifications for comments, but not for edits.
 
That I believe is a bug since only mods would be able to add comments when post is deleted. I've been "following" the feature requests and bugs on the announcement post on meta
 
expended sheet from discussions on meta post, and include lock/unlock and bounty start/end/remove
 
4:36 AM
@SamuelLiew How could we forget: question closed/reopened :-)
 
Do we care about question protect/unprotect?
 
just wanted to be comprehensive, since notices was mentioned (but no differentiation was made between protect or close-type notices)
 
4:52 AM
I'd probably also include delete/undelete of an answer as part of question following. It'll probably be , but at least to me it feels like part of question status, particularly because answer deletion can lead to the question being deleted by Roomba.
 
I collapsed all that into "Auto follow answers"
 
Yeah, I expect that's how it's going to be seen, but I really see following the answers as separate vs. just answer delete/undelete status. For the status of the question, I really wouldn't care about comments on the answers, which is part of following the answer separately. OTOH, I would care about an answer being deleted/undeleted, and to a lesser extent edited (editing an answer doesn't really change the status of the question).
Are there notifications (e.g. daily summaries) of up/down votes (score)? (yet another thing that affects Roomba status)
 
not that I know of
would be too noisy if you have many followed posts
 
5:07 AM
Yeah, probably so. Hmmm.... maybe just notifications of "score is now positive/negative/zero/-3", as those are the points where the system treats the post differently.
 
5:22 AM
 
 
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6:46 AM
 
7:15 AM
Hey guys, I was just wondering. I got a flag declined for a question that was just a blatant copy paste of a homework problem from another website. Was I wrong in flagging that?
 
@Luuklag what kind of flag did you use? It being homework is not an issue. Being plagiarized might be but that needs a link to the source in your mod flag.
 
@rene, custom flag, with the URL in it.
Decline message was: declined - That source is not the original either, but another Q&A site. Homework and course questions are copied all the time.
 
@Luuklag sounds like Cody got it ;)
 
Damn ;)
 
So, here is the thing. If the post is copied verbatim from somewhere else and the OP doesn't own the copyright, a flag for plagiarism should be marked helpful. If they are copying around their own crap around multiple sites, that by itself is not a flaggable offense.
Flag/closevote the question for "normal" handling and/or downvote
 
7:55 AM
@Luuklag is it?
 
@rene nope, I was to quick to judge, based on all the answers.
 
We got some spam comming in on Trawlingweb, look at both flags from smoke
 
@Luuklag yeah
 
8:11 AM
I need help frm a reviewer to confirm/deny that a question with a large block of PHP code with all words in Portuguese is unclear: stackoverflow.com/q/61046375
 
Can a RO (cc @rene) bin this request please? OP finally listened and added data.
 
@Adriaan I retracted my custom CV. I think that is what made him insert it.
 
@Luuklag I saw that, thanks. Interesting though that previous comment (from halfer a.o.) didn't have the desired effect.
 
If a user wants to get rid of a Question and asks for it to be a community wiki, do they keep already earned reputation on it?
 
@Scratte As long as it's not disassociated from your account, yes. If the question gets truly disassociated (i.e. showing "user82738942 as author), then it follows the standard rules I think: they will keep the rep is the post is >90 days old and scoring >3 netto
 
8:24 AM
@Adriaan So it's the same as if the post is deleted, I guess. But the disassociation is not just a normal process.
 
@Scratte for disassociationg I'd say so. Becoming community-wiki isn't disassociation though; it's still your name on the bottom right.
 
@Adriaan OK, but normal community-wiki will then let users keep the already earned reputation, but not any new reputation changes then?
 
@Scratte yes. Except for bounties, interesting enough. Those will be assigned to the original author of the CW
 
@Adriaan What about Question bans? Will a Question count towards that? Say I have a Question that I think adds value, but I suspect it's being a target at me rather than at the post itself.
 
8:43 AM
@Adriaan It seems it will still count, based on the link I've just noticed from @rene
 
@Luuklag it does seem to be about programming per se, but it's unclear and probably too broad
 
 
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11:09 AM
Out of close votes, damn you Triage
 
You persevere. I don't remember last time I entered that queue.
 
Its quite simple @E_net4stillhasflags you just CV 99%, and 1% that is mediocre you skip
 
@Luuklag I know that one, the same goes for the reopen queue: 90% leave closed, 10% skip.
 
11:48 AM
@Luuklag Without a link to the question and source, it's difficult to render an opinion as to the question containing plagiarism or the appropriate course of action. Unfortunately, there's at least one moderator who thinks plagiarism in questions is OK. It's not. It may need to be handled differently than in answers. Answers can just be deleted, but deleting questions also affects the people who have given answers, so just deleting the question may not be the appropriate choice.
The mod chastising the OP and requesting the OP add attribution, or the mod adding attribution, if we can accurately determine it, may be more appropriate. It's not unreasonable for a user to want to offload doing that to a moderator, given that statements to the OP about referencing requirements carry more weight coming from a moderator, and/or the user may not want to put themselves into a dispute with the OP.
Plagiarism is plagiarism, it's not acceptable in questions or answers. The referencing requirements in the help center are, unfortunately, more focused on answers than both questions and answers. But the overall point is that it's not appropriate to take credit for the work of others. That doesn't change just because you are asking a questions rather than giving an answer.
What may change, and could be causing some of the confusion, is how the USA treats copyright and "fair use" exclusions. "Fair use" has an education component, which asking questions about something is more likely to fall within. Copyright issues are complex and are ones which usually aren't normally arbitrated by moderators, except to discourage the systemic actions of user-moderators which are known to be copyright violations (e.g. copying code an OP referenced from off-site into posts).
So, while the copyright issues may be different for questions, that doesn't change that it's not appropriate to take credit for someone else's work, even if you're asking a question about it.
 
@Makyen That was my POV exactly. But in this case it is even worse then asking about something. It is copying a question from a book, verbatim, to a question on SO.
For everyone wanting to take a look for themselves, here is the Q: stackoverflow.com/questions/60964410/…
And this is one of the first google results: chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/…
 
12:03 PM
@Luuklag It's behind a paywall, it seems.
 
@Scratte the answer is
@rene Looking at the edit history I suspect Martijn did ;)
 
@Luuklag Ahh. Yes, I see. I would comment on the post asking the author to give proper attribution with a link to the site. Anyone looking at the post can then make their own judgement. My lesson was: Don't flag it. (In review, I'd leave the comment and Skip)
 
@Luuklag Thanks for the link. At the moment, I only have time to look at this very briefly. I do note the user at least mentioned they found the code elsewhere. It's not actual attribution, but it's not nothing. I'd try communicating nicely with the OP to request they add attribution, as they are really the only one who can definitively say where they got the problem statement and code.
 
12:20 PM
@Luuklag those Dutch blokes ....
 
Can someone tell me why this javascript php htaccess needs more details? To me it read like a how to Question.
 
1:01 PM
Is the following question off-topic, because it relies mostly on external information? stackoverflow.com/q/61056606/2675154
 
Is there a joke going around that I'm not aware of? I've gotten a helpful flag on an obvious NAA, but the Answer is still around.
 
@Scratte if that is a joke, then it is a lame one ...
 
Nooo.. the post author undeleted it themself! What do I do now? I can't NAA it again. The flag was marked helpful because they were also the one deleting it.
 
@Scratte Share the link. Someone will take care of it.
 
2:16 PM
Worst joke of the day.
 
2:57 PM
@honk ^ questions without code in the question itself get "needs details or clarity"
 
@tripleee Thanks! The Q talks about "applying a tool" and I wasn't sure if code is required.
 
the general pattern is "click here and also here to finally see what I am actually asking"
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, oops
 
@tripleee Got it!
 
Ultra Dark with the flashlight is gone :(
 
4:00 PM
Incidentally, [competitive-coding] is a meta tag. All the questions in the tag are closed at present
 
@Machavity: You edited out of this question. Now it's even harder to grasp, e.g. it's unclear what the TLE error refers to. Anyway, is this Q on topic? Do we do unspecific "please speed up my code" requests?
 
@honk That's a tough one. In general, no, but I lack any real domain knowledge there to ask for closure. It looks MRE
 
@Machavity OK, then I'll let it go. Thanks! By the way, we constantly get new question tagged . As long as the tag is not blacklisted, there will be more close-worthy posts...
 
I want the tag burninated
 
4:15 PM
@honk I can understand your desire for blacklisting, but the process for doing so is strict. The process is that the tag needs to be burninated and removed first (i.e. auto-removed due to not having any questions). If the tag is then recreated, then blacklisting is considered. Blacklisting isn't considered without the tag first being removed and then being recreated.
 
@Makyen Yeah, I know. (I've also seen the burnination request on Meta.) It's just that Machavity mentioned: "All the questions in the tag are closed at present" and I wanted to raise that this can change again in a few hours or even minutes...
 
5:27 PM
@Machavity Please remove my last cv request. The question has been edited and improved. TIA
 
@SardarUsama Your tank has been advanced. You're welcome ;)
 
 
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@double-beep Just NAA, I would say
 
@halfer alright, thanks. Flagged.
 
Yeah, looks like poor English NAA
 
Looks like the cat ate some of his keyboard and did something unmentionable on other parts of it.
 
I've seeded probably about 15-20 questions from , if anyone wants to close a bunch
 
7:12 PM
@Machavity Is this an official burninate campaign?
 
@AdrianMole Nope. [wifi] is on-topic, provided it's programming. This is just a cleanup because people ask why their wifi isn't working, etc
 
Aah, OK.
... so, mine is working, but why is it so slow? ;P
 
It's one of my "problem child" tags that I try to keep cleaned up
@AdrianMole You probably need to turn it off and on again
 
Hehe - I also heard that having the microwave on can slow it down?
 
@AdrianMole If you mean that just SE is slow, I'm also experiencing that SE is slow at the moment. It took close to a minute for a review page to load.
 
7:26 PM
is this a good answer? It seems more (but not much) than link only. See stackoverflow.com/a/61046779
 
SE has been slow and/or buggy for a while - I think since they changed their base over to .NET (or whatever it was they did). I just got an, "Oops, something went wrong" page.
 
@AdrianHHH I'd let it slide, but it also has undisclosed affiliation
 
... probably just "teething trouble," as it was a major change.
 
Thanks.
 
@Machavity nice
 
7:45 PM
@Machavity Phew That battle cannot be won. Stopped voting after running out of down-votes...
 
8:10 PM
@honk Thanks
And I assume you mean close votes :p
 
@Machavity Well, I used both both, depending on the quality of a question...
 
Ah. Makes sense
@SmokeDetector k Undisclosed affiliation
 
I'm out for today. Cya! o/
 
9:25 PM
Is there a way to effectively sniff out when a single user copy-pastes the exact same answer on multiple pages (without even the courtesy of gearing it toward the asked question)? stackoverflow.com/a/54591200/2943403
 
@mickmackusa There's at least one more (posted, again, about the same time): here
Maybe going into the 'mustn't do' zone here, but I checked the user's answers for those with "CodeIgniter" in the question titles.
 
So that might be all of them then. user:3128122 is:answer get_compiled_delete()
 
Possibly, they were having a 'funny moment' - looks like their rep. was just below 5K at the time - case of "Next Privilege Itch?"
... or maybe I misread the reputation graph?
 
9:43 PM
It errs on the side of helping people, but redundant (exact duplicate) content isn't a good thing. Just an opportunity to guide a user to better posting practices.
 
I'm trying to work out how to edit a java Question into being on-topic, but I don't know what to do. If anyone has some extra time, halp :)
 
10:03 PM
@Scratte There are two tell-tale signs of 'off-topic' there, IMHO: "is there some library" is a sentinel phrase, along with "how can I code" with no code effort shown. Good luck!
 
Closest I could come without asking for libraries or a complex implementation would be "Is there an equivalent in the Java standard library of PHP's strtotime?"
To which the answer is: no, but that'd be nice.
 
... also note that it is now in the re-open queue and has one vote going for it.
 
unclear: I write Java, not PHP
 
(it's a really great function for doing quick+dirty things, but as an API that you can reason about it's awwwwful)
 
Which is really the same as saying "I write sins, not tragedies"
 
10:06 PM
@AdrianMole I was under the impression that code effort was only necessary for homework and debugging help. Does "How do I do this" change anything?
 
(which of course you can't do because it's closed, but you could comment I suppose)
 
Well, you can't vote to close as a dupe, so maybe a comment in lieu of a "vote-to-not-reopen?"
 
so many reopen votes are "well now it's closeable for a different reason"...
or that it was closed for the wrong reason, but closure was appropriate nonetheless
 
@RyanM That's not a good duplicate target :) It's using old java date.
@AdrianMole How can it have a reopen vote with the "is there some library"?
 
The OP has re-open vote privileges?
 
10:14 PM
Are you implying that people in the review queues always review correctly? If so let me introduce you to my good frenemy, the suggested edits queue :-p
 
@AdrianMole I really don't want to make an edit on it without being sure that it would the Question on-topic.
 
but yeah in this case it's probably the OP since IIRC you can cast a vote on your own question
@Scratte trruuuuuue. it's also not a super complete answer. But it's a very similar question.
you're right that it doesn't solve the problem, if only because it doesn't handle those formats
heck, it doesn't even handle all the formats in the question as far as I can tell
 
What if the last sentence is rephrased to "I'd like to find a solution that doesn't require me to reinvent the wheel, meaning writing a parser myself." and "Is that possible?" or "How can I do this?"
@AdrianMole But if they used a reopen vote, they can't use it again, right?
 
IIRC, If the question is closed again, the OP (or anyone else) can vote to reopen, again. I think I did this on one of my posts on Meta SE. Or maybe not - it was reopened twice, but I didn't vote the second time.
 
10:33 PM
Well.. my takeaway is that no one here really knows what to rewrite to make this on topic. Which is sort of funny :)
 
But the only privileged that's really important is the 50 rep: Comment everywhere :)
 
@Scratte You can only re-vote to close or reopen a question after a 14 day waiting period expires after your prior vote ages away (i.e. you don't get to re-vote if your vote does not age away).
 
@Makyen Can a vote be retracted?
 
@Scratte You can not retract a reopen-vote (or a delete-vote). If you retract your close-vote, you don't get to vote again.
 
10:41 PM
Oh.. so they got the free ride into the reopen queue from their edit, but was unaware of it and wasted their only reopen vote.
 
Not really - the edit will send it into the queue but won't give it a +1 to reopen, so it will still need 3. If the OP also voted to reopen, then it will be in the queue needing +2.
 
@Scratte Maybe. It means they only need 2 other reopen votes, but can't use their reopen vote if they want to send it through the reopen queue a second time, which may, or may not, be the better strategy.
ninja'd :-)
 
But they need to as Adrian explained, there are two phrases that's a no-go.
I made a suggestion in a comment, but it's tricky to be helpful when I don't know if I'm helping :)
 
But as @RyanM said, you can 'get lucky' in the queue with favourable reviews.
@Scratte Not completely no-go, but the sort of phrases that reviewers tend to home-in on.
 
Heh.. I don't like "maybe" I like "being sure"
It has a really nice answer, in my opinion. The idea hadn't even crossed my mind probably because I wasn't aware of the option of the standard library.
 

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