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4:21 AM
Interesting: I voted to delete this answer > 20 minutes prior to it being deleted. Prior to voting to delete, there was already 1 delete-vote showing. After I voted to delete, there were two, and there's a record of my delete-vote in my profile. However, it shows as having been deleted "from review" with only the four reviewers credited for the deletion. That implies that me voting outside of review did nothing wrt. actually getting it deleted.
Are the delete-votes (and recommend delete-votes) in review considered to be in a separate pool of votes, even when the answer has a score of <0 (i.e. can actually be delete-voted)? In other words, if an answer has 2 delete-votes outside of review, does it still need to go through the entirety of the LQP process, including that it might get 3 additional actual delete-votes (total 5 actual delete-votes)?
 
I've actually always wondered that.
 
I'd always thought I was helping get it deleted, even if I voted on the post, rather than from within the review, but that answer implies that many of my delete votes have been wasted, either from inside or outside review when the other got to the necessary number first.
@mickmackusa This request would be fine, if it didn't contain commentary about a user. Feel free to re-post it without that commentary.
 
I could have edited it.
 
@mickmackusa I thought it was outside the 2 minute window.
 
ah maybe it was.
 
4:40 AM
Personally, I'd like to have a bit longer to edit. Even just a 5 minute edit window would make things a bit easier. I don't think it would be all that open to abuse. After all, there is a record of edits, even within the two minutes.
@Makyen Note: all three "Recommend Deletion" review responses were > 6 minutes after my delete-vote, but the "Delete" review response was prior to my delete-vote.
 
 
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9:43 AM
@mickmackusa review-pls is normally used for review queue tasks. What are you expecting other people to do wrt. this request? Right now it looks like you are asking for downvotes, which is something we don't do.
 
9:59 AM
I'm trying to figure out if two Python answers are identical. Is "import np.testing as npt" the same as "import numpy.testing as npt"?
 
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12:17 PM
@Makyen No, 3 delete votes are binding whether from within or outside the review. If the third vote is cast before review ends then the review gets invalidated. In this case I assume a third vote was never cast, so the review ended with the result recommend deletion and the system deleted it crediting only the reviewers. Your vote, because outside of the process was never taken into consideration.
 
 
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1:41 PM
Perhaps I should raise these reopen please requests on META. I see it was just one user every time. I have no idea what I am missing, but these questions are all over the place.
 
1:57 PM
@Dharman those users were moderators at the time of closure FYI
 
I am just about to write a meta post, I think this is too much to ask of SOCVR
 
2:21 PM
@TylerH Could you move my 3 reopen requests to null. I asked on Meta meta.stackoverflow.com/q/396321/1839439
 
3:09 PM
3 messages moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
 
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8:34 PM
@honk The NATO answerer is also a spammer
I'll raise flags
Gone already :-)
@yivi I agree, but it looks very popular, so I have protected it - feedback welcome
 
8:53 PM
@halfer Thought so, because SD called them blacklisted. Thanks!
 
Bed time for honko. Cya! o/
 
Nightmares! ;)
 
9:09 PM
@honk Dream of destroyed spammer accounts :-)
\o
 
10:01 PM
Any thoughts on this answer?
 
@Scratte Looks like a question to me, which would make it NAA.
 
+1 NAA
 
10:18 PM
Thanks. I did think it was. Though the Question is a bit asking for some api maybe.. sort of :D
 
Can anyone see an answer in this?
 
@DavidBuck I'd say it's R/A
 
It's not R/A.. it's read to me like a mix of a warning and a plea for help
The reverse of words in sentences are typical in some languages.
 
@Scratte it's abusive, gibberish content made up by a bot maybe?
at least seems to me
 
Gone already. It was hard to fathom exactly what it was.
 
10:23 PM
well, it's gone
 
To me it read like this: Don't use this service. Some of my information have by default been open to public view, despite the fact that I have tried to shut it down.
 
@DavidBuck Personally, I just went with NAA on the chance that it was someone trying to communicate who didn't know English. However, a moderator chose to delete it as R/A, which I can also understand, as it was largely unintelligible.
 
Fair enough. I can't see it once it's been deleted, but I can see that the user no longer exists as well, so I assumed it must have been treated as R/A
 
@DavidBuck It's quite possible the moderator had more information than we did.
 
11:14 PM
If I find a post where the code doesn't work, can I edit it? Or is code not supposed to be edited?
 
@Scratte Tricky one! If it's a very obvious typo, then fixing it may be OK. If it's a more subtle issue, then I would probably make a comment, so that the poster can address the problem. But, if the whole dang code is just plain wrong, then post a new answer with code that does work.
 
@Scratte In general, you shouldn't edit code in questions, other than obvious formatting issues. As to editing code in answers, that's really going to depend. Unless you have full editing privileges, it's quite likely to be rejected, unless you explain well why you are editing in your edit comment and the issue is something relatively obvious.
 
... one of the options for rejecting an edit in reviews is, "Clearly conflicts with the original intent." This is used quite often when editors have made significant chages to code.
But definitely I would agree with @Makyen that code in questions must not be changed!
 
It's not compiling for 3 reasons.. missing }, the obvious &lt; and.. the initialization of the Hashmap
I ran it.. it works fine with changes.
is it obvious enough? :)
 
@Scratte I'm not a Java person, so I'd "skip". However, the first two are, IMO, obvious enough to change (i.e. I saw them w/o having them pointed out). For the last, you could link to some docs in your edit comment. I'd also definitely mention that you compiled it and it didn't work without the changes, but did work with the changes.
 
11:26 PM
ninja'd ^
 
Well.. the plot thickens. It used it work with the initialization, then someone edited it :D
 
@Scratte Yep, the most recent edit messed it up.
 
Hmm, so the last editor (who claims only to have added the code fences) has also messed up the actual code? Probably needs a rollback and then re-edit just to add the code fences. I can't remember if non-2K see the rollback option - if so, just do it. Then edit again to add the code fences.
@Makyen @Scratte @AdrianMole So, who's gonna do the rollback?
 
Ahhhh... the prior version was manually placed in <code> format using HTML, rather than Markdown. The user messed it up when trying to convert it.
 
I've edited it..
 
11:35 PM
@Makyen Interestingly, it was a suggested edit that was approved & shouldn't have been.
 
@Scratte Cool! But I can't approve it for another 25 minutes (been busy in the edit reviews, today)!
 
But even when converting it.. it's a bit sad to make code not compile with one's edit :(
@AdrianMole No worries. I expect reviewers to read my explanation that includes the previous edit removing it. And that I've compiled and run it.
 
@Scratte It's relatively rare for anyone to try to compile the code. I'd guess the only situation where it's done even most of the time is when the code is in a JS/CSS/HTML snippet, which allows executing the code in the page.
 
@Makyen I always execute java code that I review! :) When (I'm in late answers) it doesn't compile, I always comment on it
I just happened to read the other answers in this thread and found this one so nice and simple :)
 
@Scratte You've mentioned that. I respect that you do so. It's significantly more than most people do.
 
11:43 PM
Maybe it's because it's just so disappointing to find a solution with a code snippet and then to realize that it's not working.. It's like winning in bingo and then finding a parking ticket on your car.. :)
 

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