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user10957435
12:15 AM
Does anyone with domain knowledge (entity-framework) understand what this question is saying?
 
@CodyGray I've seen countless instances of "i" over the years (some posts have more than 10 and no "I"s at all), so I think those are broken.
 
@JL2210 They're not broken. They're not meant to catch every post that fails to capitalize the letter "i". There are hundreds of questions getting rejected on SO every day because of these quality filters. You're just not seeing those. So the filter is working; it's keeping the worst of the worst out. You could argue that it should be dialed up. I certainly have. Don't expect that to happen now without Shog.
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Darn SE firing the people who actually keep the bad stuff out. And now of all times.
 
12:32 AM
Don't expect to get stats on how well the existing filters are working, either, without Shog. He's the one who gave us all those juicy numbers, both on Meta and in private channels. That's the advantage of having a CM who is a programmer and has database access. There are very few, if any, of those left, and none of them as accessible to us as Shog was.
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6:27 AM
@CodyGray I offered my SEDE sql skills to one of the remaining CMs, FWIW ....
 
6:54 AM
@rene That's handy, I guess. Will every script come with your customary shout-out to Monica?
 
Yes
 
Perfect.
Maybe add a "Shog9 would have done it better" in there for good measure.
 
Good idea!
Consider it done.
 
If we could only get you database access, we'd really have something
 
Applying for a Job there doesn't feel like a sane idea atm ...
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6:59 AM
Absolutely not. I feel like I dodged a bullet in not applying myself some 6-8 months ago.
 
besides my Dutch humor would probably not be appreciated
 
Can't imagine. I appreciate it very much.
 
Yes, but you're not my manager ;)
 
How funny would it be if they let me manage things around here?
Hey, look at that! At least we've got the spammers pretending they're on Jeopardy!
 
 
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9:09 AM
Mornin'
 
 
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11:37 AM
 
^ spam for a translation "service", ironically
 
before posting on meta, do you reckon it's a good idea that we drop off-topic->seeking debugging help in lieu of Needs Details?
 
In lieu of, no (it already has "but needs more information"), but just drop it, I would say so, but that encourages using it to close even good "How to..." questions, which are fine. The seeking debugging help bit is there to protect against closing questions without code as off-topic, even when no code isn't a problem AFAICT
 
11:54 AM
Good point! Guess an A/B test would need to be done to see the difference in closures if that reason was removed
 
12:31 PM
^^I made a post on meta for it (removing seeking debugging help) - but not sure about wording - I'm no wordsmith! Now we wait for meta to rip me apart :p
 
@treyBake Oh after reading your meta post I totally misunderstood what you were asking, ignore the whole first part, the only relevant part is "The seeking debugging help bit is there to protect against closing questions without code as off-topic, even when no code isn't a problem AFAICT"
In fact, just ignore what I said ^^ but remember that needs details and seeking debugging help are different
 
@NickA aha that's OK :)
and they are, but how often is seeking debugging help just asking for more details?
 
12:48 PM
@treyBake The idea behind this close reason is that OP needs to do some debugging themselves too. They can't just say "Stuff's not working!" and get a magic wand from us. They need to check error logs and they need to create a reproducible example. Quite often when making MCVE you are able to spot the mistake yourself.
 
Yeah, which is why I just ignore the new text, Needs details = unclear, debugging help = no MCVE
 
@Dharman true, but if an MVCE is needed, isn't that a detail to the question and problem at hand?
 
Needs clarity is when the question asks something, but needs more details to provide an adequate response. e.g. "How can I output a string?" Answer: "Needs more details or clarity!"
 
@treyBake No, you need to read the extended description: "add additional details to highlight exactly what you need" - not just arbitrary details, specific details to describe the problem
 
that's what I mean though, to me, that is a specific detail to the problem - but, I guess is just my interpretation, which, is a minority perspective I guess :)
 
12:56 PM
It probably wouldn't matter much if you used either or when closing the question, but there is a significant difference between "debug this code for me" and "How can I perform this vague task"
 
@treyBake I would say it's a specific detail to getting the solution, not to what the question is asking
 
Morning
 
Morning o/
 
2:15 PM
@Madara'sGhost Plop! This sucks. A lot. But hey, more time for some TF2 then?
Plop folks
Screw this and that and these but Plop folks
 
plops back in greeting
 
tumbleweed
 
2:33 PM
blub
 
ahoy
 
Afternoon all.
Possible spam? User keeps posting links to their blogs as answers: stackoverflow.com/a/59753497/10871073 (see my comment there).
 
There's disclosure, i'd just flag NAA unless they're doing it religiously, 2 isn't much to go on
 
@AdrianMole Rest of their answers seem legit. And dev.to is a well known site
 
What's religion got to do with this?
 
2:43 PM
@Machavity @NickA OK, guys - thanks for the advice (I wasn't sure).
 
> with consistent and conscientious regularity.
 
@JohnDvorak As penance, you must do 9 "Hail Shogs"
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hehe
 
2:55 PM
@Machavity Hail Shog, full of stats. The Skeet is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst CMs, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, StackExchange. Holy Shog, Mother of SE, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of the site's death, Amen.
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Like that?
 
Well done!
 
Sweet. One down, eight to go
 
3:52 PM
@Kyll Yeah 😃 Hopefully soon
 
@Georgy It can't be deleted yet. Please wait 48 hours after the Q is closed
 
Lotsa love to you. For now. Then I will come back to hate you because you're OP with that BS sword
 
Ah, he's a Demoknight
That achievement was crazy hard to get
 
@Kyll doesn't he use an axe by now? That HHH thing?
 
Was playing a game of payload last night where our entire team went demo. Funny as heck
 
3:54 PM
@Adriaan He kicks my butt whatever he uses tbh
 
@Georgy Feel free to re-request once it's actually possible to vote to delete.
 
@Adriaan Indeed I do
But it's just a skin over the sword that makes you faster with every head you take
 
@Madara'sGhost which is horrible, since you outsprint your medic after taking 5 heads or so
 
@Georgy [This chat message] (and the following one)(chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=47868132) has a brief summary of when it's possible for people to vote to delete, and when a del-pls is permitted.
 
@Adriaan One of the healing guns make you run as fast as whoever you heal + sprint with them
It's tricky tho
 
user10957435
4:05 PM
Meanwhile, on politics SE, people are asking for what it's called when a regime is run by an AI.
 
AI overlord, speedy demo man overlord, what's the difference?
 
@Dharman I did wait for 48 hours. So, I'm not sure why it is still not possible to delete it.
 
@Georgy You were a bit early. It wasn't all that much.
 
Looks like you were a little early. It's deleteable now.
 
@Georgy It looks like you posted the request just shy of 48 hours. Your message was sent 15:37 UTC, and the post's 48-hour time came at 16:02 UTC
Bah, too late again
 
4:22 PM
@Das_Geek Shame on me! I didn't pay attention to the timezones.
 
 
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8:33 PM
 
Also just referenced in the Tavern, which prompted me to noodle a bit, inadvertently interspersed with some classic video game references.
 
One word: sigh
 
Also Shog MSO unfeatured by Tim
 
WAT??
They aren't supposed to do that. Only site mods are supposed to be able to feature things now.
 
Again, discussion about the unfeaturing can be found in the Tavern, because that's arbitrarily where I saw the question asked first. Let's keep it in there, please, if not to keep this room clean, just to keep me from having to repeat myself (cc @NathanOliver)
 
8:47 PM
technically Tim is still an elected mod: stackoverflow.com/election
 
He is not operating as such, certainly not on this matter. This isn't his personal judgment call. @rene
Conflicting loyalties. The one who signs your checks wins.
 
agree
okay, to the Tavern, please ;)
 
@Dharman A Google translate of that, "No, you can't", indicates that it's probably just NAA/VLQ, rather than offensive. Is there something about it that Google translate misses?
 
=.=
Reading MSO makes me sad
 
8:59 PM
@Makyen I don't know Hindi, but it sounded rude to me when I translated it. Maybe you have a different translator.
 
 
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11:37 PM
Question for the room: if a question is only about CS theory (like this one), would that be enough to label as "nothing to do with programming"?
 

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