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12:01 AM
 
12:17 AM
@NathanOliver nice hammer!
 
 
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4:05 AM
For the "official" cleanup, are we also cleaning up the related tags listed in this answer?
@Makyen I assume that the 's "official" Meta-sanctioned cleanup effort makes it acceptable to post questions from the cleanup here, right? Does that also apply to the tags mentioned in the answer I linked to (i.e. are we permitted to post those here, too)?
 
@EJoshuaS Yes, with the cleanup you can post cv-pls requests for questions in . However, it's already going to be the case that multiple people will be filtering the CV-queue for , which largely makes posting them here redundant. Doing so would just tend to clog our process. I'd prefer seeing how it goes with people filtering the queue for the tag. However, it there are ones that are particularly bad, then go ahead and post a cv-pls. As to the other tags, technically, no.
I'll read everything over again to see if those additional tags are really being done, but usually it's one tag per process.
 
I commented asking Bhargav Rao♦ if the process is supposed to include all of those - the fact that that answer is voted so highly seems to suggest that a reasonable number of people want those tags cleaned up, but I'm not sure if they're officially part of it or not
Either way, I suppose that people working on it could consider filtering on those tags, too - I filtered on them as well, a few of them had a decent number of items in the queue.
Anyone know if I could filter on [teeth] or [plaque] or something like that in the queue to avoid needing to go to the dentist for awhile?
 
 
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@Shadow it has 2 migration votes.. is it a good candidate for dba.SE?
 
 
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6:54 AM
Morning \o
 
\o
 
 
8:03 AM
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Q: This tag is [corrupt]ed

MarounMore than 349 questions tagged with corrupt, most of them are really corrupted. The tag's description: Data structures or files may become damaged or corrupt. Hmmm.. OK. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? Questions with this tag...

 
@PraveenKumar is it? I don't think so.
 
Er... Use a counter loop, start from 2. :)
 
@PraveenKumar it is not php what they are using ....
More like something as sqlloader
 
@rene It's Azure. Okay... Gotcha... So does it needs to be done totally in SQL then?
 
I'm not sure what the tool is capable of.
 
8:08 AM
If that's the case, @rene I'll take back the CV-PLS.
I have retracted the CV.
 
I do know those dataloading tools have their own syntax, quirks and bolted-on stuff
 
Please grave the CV PLS. ^ Yeah...
 
Potentially to be closed? stackoverflow.com/q/50386381
 
8:27 AM
Praveen Foobar \o
 
@PraveenKumar meh
 
o/
 
8:58 AM
How should this question be closed? (It's about GDPR)
 
@AndréKool ^ like that
 
@AndréKool I'd say yes, it's soliciting legal information
 
Or off-topic: legal advice
 
9:15 AM
Yeah, I wasn't sure if that would be Too Broad or off-topic
What's up with that ^
3 bull**** answer in a couple min
 
@AndréKool probably a frustrated user venting using throwaway accounts
@PetterFriberg e.) homework task is the answer
 
@PetterFriberg Isn't that just blatantly off-topic?
 
maah I like unclear :), it's like what are you actually asking us? "Share your research????"
What research???, when?, why?, what is the problem?, what are you up to??, please explain better why you posted this question
true I'm being a bit ignorant, I understand that probably OP has copied and pasted from a homework question... but in good faith I close as unclear :)
 
9:32 AM
Is there an easy way to search this chat for cv-pls requests? I don't want to post a duplicate request, or maybe thats ok???
 
it's not ok, if you do it RO will notice it (they have some darn bots running), but they will just remind you so don't worry (if you do it accidentally) ... anyway you can use the chat search with question id
 
nevermind then :D
@PetterFriberg Presumably chat search is the tiny little search box in the top right
 
That really is a tiny box...
 
@kayess Foobaz o/
 
9:38 AM
\o Praveen what's up... jscripting away?
 
@PetterFriberg HTML5ing and CSSing now...
 
Not going to request a cv (on that specific question) because it has already been done :)
 
which one? link to chat? :)
 
@AndréKool it was not even you that requested, RO will not go crazy if it is not you who previously requested it, no need to search before each and every request.
 
9:43 AM
@PetterFriberg I'm absolutely not gonna search before each request. I just saw the comment on that question and thought that user would have put a request here themself
 
@PraveenKumar nice bootstrap some for me also
 
What is with that question
 
I custom mod flag that... time for mods to nuke it all
 
@rene Ah, were they undeleted?
 
nope, new
Obviously EdChum is lurking ;)
 
9:50 AM
How many troll answers have there been so far?
 
@AndréKool 5
 
@PetterFriberg Thanks, I REALLY tried to help that user...
 
Yeah I saw and I liked how you just moved on!
 
There's no better way to deal with it! I'm in a bad mood today so by all rights I should have unloaded on them, but kept calm instead :)
 
yeah, just move on, no need to waste energy on that
 
10:06 AM
@PetterFriberg Sure...
 
@PraveenKumar How's life down south mate?
 
@rene It's not only your flag!
 
10:22 AM
@AndréKool it isn't?
 
@rene Nope
 
OK
 
And I have to say; annoying Dijkstra and his problems :p
 
10:54 AM
@DavidG Going excellent...
Better climate, better work culture...
Best views... :D
 
@PraveenKumar Whaaaaaaaaat? You were working on a business park before, what did you expect? haha. I'm working on quayside here, I bet my views are better...
 
@DavidG Ha ha... True that...
 
@DavidG It's not like the OP actually wrote the code or the DB schema. They don't understand the code they posted, don't understand the DB, don't understand the stored proc, so it's pointless asking them to do anything. Cut and run, as you did, is the only reasonable approach.
@DavidG You can see the floaters as the cops fish them out of the water on Sunday morning?
 
11:15 AM
@MartinJames Gasp! You're talking about the city that was voted the best place in the world to visit in 2018 by Rough Guides!
 
11:28 AM
@DavidG I prefer the beer in Sunderland:)
 
@MartinJames Is there anything better in Sunderland than the beer? :P
(For the record I've never been further north than Manchester, despite my hometown being not far from Liverpool)
 
user3956566
12:11 PM
@rene is in fine form tonight Please don't take his advice (notice how I used please?) :D
 
Welcoming and nice
 
user3956566
@rene you're a bad flower.
 
You didn't notice?
 
This opens up so many ways for me to be too Dutch
 
Why was this edit approved? It changes code, hence I rolled it back
@rene you're a bad flower please
 
user3956566
12:16 PM
@AndréKool oh no! You're Dutch?
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
oh no, I think we've started a please meme
 
please no
 
user3956566
I have to study, nice to pop in.
 
Have fun studying please!
 
user3956566
12:22 PM
No :) <-- obligatory smiley face
 
Rude!!1! It's "No, please" for you :D
 
user3956566
lolol I love that episode.
 
@YvetteColomb Not only Dutch but also autistic (like most of SO)
 
user3956566
@AndréKool oh no! please. :) <-- obligatory smiley face
 
user3956566
I have dutch ancestry
 
user3956566
12:25 PM
mind you I have a lot of ancestors from everywhere
 
user3956566
I must go, assignment to do.. stop pinging me with fun and laughter - it's a sharp contrast to the task at hand please. :) <-- obligatory smiley face
 
user3956566
\o
 
o/
 
12:31 PM
\o/
 
someone decided it was a good idea to re-use a subject field as a directory name. Now I have to deal with foo :bar and foo\bar\baz to name a couple of mishaps ...
Oh, and spaces ...
 
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
afternoon
 
Sam
Afternoon
 
12:51 PM
morning
 
Sam
o/
 
\o
 
Please not again :)
 
12:53 PM
NO, TRAINS MUST BE CONDUCTED
anything good happen in the room in the last week? Last week I was at Build and this week has been Linux training (though it seems it was the "101" class)
 
It's fun to stay at the...
\o/ ^o^ o< /o\
 
@gunr2171 Oh man you totally missed it. Shog came into the room and was so happy with our work he gave us all mod powers for the week. It was awesome. We almost got php burned
13
 
: )
I think the more outrageous claim is "Shog ... was happy with our work"
 
afk morning scrum
 
1:04 PM
@gunr2171 How was Build?
 
Lot's of fun! Seattle was awesome (was 70 deg F the whole time and didn't rain!), lot's of people, good sessions.
First Build / time on the west coast
 
Nice. Wasn't quite as exciting as last year in terms of announcements though. Though looking forward to see what comes with .NET Core 3
 
From what I've seen so far .Net Core 3 is just "you can run WinForms and WPF on the 'core' framework"
and yeah, the announcements were lacking. Though "we fixed notepad" was nice
 
Would be relevant if I still used Notepad!
 
@gunr2171 What did they do to notepad?
 
Fixed it so it handles Unix/MaxOS line endings
 
but yeah, I use notepad++ anyways, so while that's cool, I don't care much
 
@gunr2171 Hey, it's not that outrageous... Shog just kind of suggested that we create a CodeReview.StackExchange for non-working code on a recent meta answer...
@gunr2171 wait, what was wrong with Notepad?
 
@TylerH sounds like debug.SE
 
@TylerH nothing, unless you like viewing non-windows files
 
1:28 PM
@dippas Don't use a custom close reason for that please; unclear suffices quite well for non-English posts
 
^ that
 
< Those?
 
v these
 
^ has a pending edit
 
@gunr2171 but who would try to do that
 
1:29 PM
IDK
 
Surely no one is foolish enough to use a non-Windows OS...
 
but at least you have the ability to now
 
^ HAD a pending edit
 
Should I flag this comment as no longer needed? Because I'm sick and tired from that overly being nice thing
 
@AlonEitan I'd say yes. It doesn't help improve the quality of the post.
 
1:33 PM
DONE AND DONE!
 
I really like "Some programmer dude"'s username.
 
@AlonEitan I would say everything after that can be flagged. looks more like a discussion about translating the question
 
@AndréKool Agree, I hope the mod that handle this flag will remove that irrelevant discussion
 
What's the best way to get rid of a close vote I think is wrong?
 
@AndréKool do we? wouldnt the question itself be deleted?
 
1:39 PM
@AndréKool flag away, I'll move on, since the other person seems to be too thick to read meta anyway. I did what I could
 
Yep, those nice people are getting on my nerves
 
@ClayBridges You don't. If no one agrees with it, it will age away in 14(?) days
 
@SurajRao What do you mean with "do we?"
 
@AndréKool sorry... as in do we need to flag all those comments or flag a mod for cleanup
 
@NathanOliver Thanks, that'll do.
 
1:44 PM
it might be easier to make a custom flag on the post which says "cleanup the comments". I'll help by removing my comment which Adriaan covers with his
 
@SurajRao Good point. I don't know. Maybe someone with more experiance can answer that
 
If I want a full scale comments cleanup I custom flag. Not had one rejected yet.
 
"yet" grins
 
indeed
 
@Yam Thats better but still not really complete
 
1:48 PM
bribes a certain ninja puppy with a scooby snack
 
already sent a sack full of snooby snacks
 
Hello socvr.
Which revision should be used to rollback this: stackoverflow.com/questions/22856680/… ?
 
@Cœur that'd be 4, but why would you want to do that? It's been inactive for 4 years...
 
4
 
#4
 
1:58 PM
@Adriaan because I don't have delete-hammer?
 
Still better to fix it than to leave it be
Even with the hammer we can't delete that
 
@Cœur huh?
 
revision number 4. Inactive for 4 years. I smell a conspiracy!
 
Check this out for conspiracy stackoverflow.com/users/8390858/marko-novakovic (note: not moderating this user. just pointing out the amazing stats)
 
@Adriaan If we don't roll it back, it means it stays in an off-topic state, and off-topic questions with a low score are delete-worthy. That's why we should rollback.
 
2:01 PM
oh, one of each badge, all with 1 rep. nice
 
@StephenKennedy Would be better if he had 1 answer less...
 
If website is blacklisted, why admins don't prevent its inclusion in posts?
 
user3956566
 
@YvetteColomb is on-topic. not awesome
 
@YvetteColomb it has to do with the IDE.. may need editing
 
2:08 PM
@Cœur A website gets blacklisted in a sustained notice. But in that last one, the user wasn't linking to fiverr, he was posting it in his code
 
@SmokeDetector Looks ok to me, properly disclosed.
 
user3956566
@rene yep and @SurajRao yep
 
Arf... I just missed the 1 week mod powers?
 
user3956566
@SurajRao hm
 
2:16 PM
@PraveenKumar Does this mean half the regex question can be closed because certain chars haven't been escaped?
 
@AndréKool Ha ha...
Not exactly.
It's like nothing comes out of this string... What did I do? alert("\t");
 
^ that might be good enough. Not a reactjs person though
 
Checking @gunr2171
Yep... Looks fine.
 
thanks. withdrawing cv
 
Still lacking something.
A mcve. :)
 
2:20 PM
uh
thanks for telling me about 3 seconds too late
 
The Notepad announcement doesn't explain which line ending is being detected when the file has a mix of different line endings. (I'm asking, because they explain that copy-pasting will change all line endings to the detected one in the document)
 
Oh, actually it's answered in the very last comment: "It will apply the logic based on the ending detected on the first line."
 
2:43 PM
wonders what it picks if there is no line ending
 
@NathanOliver you Americans are really overdoing it in the opening of a hockey game xD
 
Where can I find guidelines about which questions should be deleted which not?
 
All closed questions except duplicates and locked should be deleted. ;) <- smiley
 
@Adriaan Vegas baby
 
@Adriaan Worse, they're kicking our asses
 
2:48 PM
@JohnDvorak You in Winnipeg? Or do you mean the current USA-CZE game?
 
Czech Republic
 
@NathanOliver in Sweden they had fire + a bear's mouth to skate on the ice, but that was it. Here in the Netherlands nothing happens afaik :P
 
Oh, is there a national game going on at the same time?
 
Can someone decipher what the OP wants?
 
2:49 PM
@JohnDvorak world champs; quarters are ongoing now: RUS-CAN and USA-CZE; tonight are SWE-LAT and FIN-SUI
 
As a Czech, I'm interested in the USA-CZE game, but I don't have high hopes...
Anyways... I'm off for a big TV. BYe
 
@PraveenKumar There were some hidden images in that question
 
@NathanOliver Now i am feeling less privileged :(
 
Sorry
 
And, I'm back at mobile
2/3 begins
 
3:13 PM
Should XY Problems be requested to delete here? I know how to post a del-pls req here, but don't know what should I req here and what not. The XY problem question.
 
Ron
o/
 
A question should be deleted if it's not useful to have it remain on the site
USA 2:1 CZE
 
Aren't del-pls requests only for posts that need to go NOW or won't be roomba'd?
 
Ron
It's a grey area.
 
@AndréKool I see a lot of questions those won't be roomba'd because of accepted answers with typo fix or library recommendations, sometimes not acceptable answers but 2/more upvotes
 
3:23 PM
2:2
 
@JohnDvorak the IIHF blocked the default YT stream again in the Netherlands -.- happened previous tournaments as well. The idea is that if there's no official broadcaster in a country, YT is open for them, but some matches aren't available in NL for some arcane reason no-one mentions
so it's a bit of a lottery whether I can properly (i.e. legally and 1080p) see the game, or whether I need a blocky semi-legal stream
 
@AndréKool Mainly yes. No real need to delete a Q that will get clean up by the roomba
 
In Czechia, you can watch all major matches, restreamed by news sites. Choppy as heck and often drops entirely, but the idea is there.
Of course, TVs run them just fine, just not over the Internet
 
3:52 PM
@MunimMunna you should not request deletion of a question just because the poster is suffering from an XY problem. If one of the prescribed close reasons applies, and a question should be closed now and is not likely to get closed before it attracts answers, then use that close reason for the question.
 
@MunimMunna If a question is not yet closed, you should definitely not post a delete request. And again, del-pls requests are for questions that won't be roomba'd and that have no value/aren't worth keeping around
 
@TylerH Thanks for the heads up, XY questions should be edited to make a legit question, but if I edit this question the title will be, "How can I check if a variable is greater than one and less than another", So I thought may be it should be deleted
 
@MunimMunna Definitely if the question would be too broad even after eliminating the XY question, then close it as too broad.
However we shouldn't necessarily force people to fix their XY problem before answering... there is nothing wrong with answering with a solution for Y if OP is asking for Y, even if you know the real problem is X. You would be better off mentioning it, of course...
 
4:11 PM
USA leads 3:2
 
@JohnDvorak Just because Europe is lead-free.
 
@gparyani oh, you're Sonic the Inclusive?
 
4:35 PM
@Olaf that's a horrible pun - especially with Sweden still on the leader board
 
@JohnDvorak I once leaded my PCBs myself. However, now I have a lead-er :-þ
 
@Cœur Yes
Just call me "Sonic"
@Olaf Not really a resource request
 
@gunr2171 it's about time...
 
@gparyani Oh, it very well is actually. Just not that obvious to people not into that field.
 
@NobodyNada I know, right!
 
4:50 PM
@Olaf But it is too broad; flagged
 
@gparyani That's what I voted, too. Nevertheless it's both. And I don't think flagging helps much, as I already CVed which should have put it into the close-queue. (cmiiw)
 
@NobodyNada "As with any change to a long-established tool, there’s a chance that this new behavior may not work for your scenarios, or you may prefer to disable this new behavior and return to [the] original behavior." I wish more software allowed for that
 
@gparyani: "Does anyone have any insight on this?" plus the rest and the context is basically asking "is there any documentation" (and there is indeed, OP just hasn't done proper reserach which shows lack of necessary prerequisites for such a project)
 
@gparyani I mean...yeah, most of the time. Breaking changes are usually annoying, but on the other hand it's a nightmare when compatibility gets in the way of improvement
 
I have to hold me back not to leave a very helpful, yet snarky comment there
@NobodyNada You mean like maintaining 20 year old code, writen by someone who hardly learned the language, less understood the problem? Indeed …
 
4:56 PM
Case in point: the Swift programming language. It's only been out for about 4 years, and Swift 2 and 3 brought major breaking changes to the language. Swift 4 was almost completely (but not quite) source-compatible; they're finally starting to lock down source compatibility
But if they had been source-compatible from Swift 1, the language wouldn't be quite as good as it is today -- the real world told the designers what needs to change
 
It's the same for Python. They even made major changes many years afterwards. One result is we'll have to deal with Python 2 for mayn years. Fortunately Python 1 to 2.5 (IIRC) wasn't that widely used, so maintenance for P2.6(2.7 is sufficient.
 
Sam
 
Sam
6:42 PM
 
 
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7:53 PM
 
8:06 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Looks like an XY problem to me. OP should use attributes for the object or a list of records with the data. It's a commom problem for Python programs to use lists everywhere, just because they are so simple,but that results in hard to maintain/read code.
 
@SmokeDetector what is detected? :D
 
@Adriaan Pink Himalaya salt. AFAIK that's some special salt with algae or minerals giving the colour. Said to have a special taste.
 
8:24 PM
@Olaf It's called impurity, or pollution:)
 
@MartinJames Nah, it's expensive snake oil for hipsters:-)
 
@MunimMunna Asking for downvotes, particularly to Roomba is not permitted.
 
@Olaf If it was colured pink with E128, nobody would buy it because of the 'nasty artificial additives', but they will shove in their mouth any old biologicals because they are 'natural', (ie. nobody knows what they are or what their effects might be:).
 
@Makyen Oh, I didn't know that
 
8:31 PM
@MartinJames Well, I know that about pink salt from France (IIRC) which is sea-salt with pink algae and said to have a specific taste due to that (I can imagine it's correct actually). Not sure about the Himalaya stuff, though. If it's something organic, it should be dead since millions of years already. So maybe it's just water with yak … red liquid.
 
@Olaf lol!
 
@MunimMunna Please May I redirect you to the FAQ once more? :-) Welcome.
 
@MunimMunna Asking for up-/down-votes isn't permitted in general, and definitely not in SOCVR. As for down-voting to Roomba, there is a specific Meta on doing so.
 
@MartinJames I should try the Frence salt once. But then, they also eat snails.
 
@Olaf One step up from the Scandinavian rotting fish.
 
8:35 PM
@MartinJames Actually I had snails in a local Restaurant last summer (The area here also has a ttradition eating snails) and they were really delicious. They can easily become like rubber erazors, but done right (and those were) they are very tender. Just too expensive for a complete meal.
 
@AndreyTyukin that's an answer
 
@MunimMunna That SOCVR doesn't permit asking for up-/down-votes is clearly stated in #10 in the FAQ. To participate here you are expected to have read, and follow, the SOCVR FAQ. Please do so.
 
@Olaf Hmm.. when I travel, I always like to try local food, but I do have my limits. Snails and fish offal are off my table:)
 
@Adriaan Thanks, fixed.
 
@Makyen Sorry I missed that part, I am onto it now :)
 
8:39 PM
@AndreyTyukin Oh look - a FP issue. That's new:)
 
@MartinJames I had them as a child. We have them deep-frozen is some supermarkets, but In general if it's a bit questionable, I try it from a know excellent resource. And that restaurant is very good and I trust them. So I had them as appetizer. Seriously: they ae very similar to good shrimps from the consistency and the taste … well it's normally eaten with herbal butter and bread, so there is not much own taste to discover. I'd say, if you are at a good restaurant restaurant, just try them.
I'd rather eat bugs under the conditions above than intestines like liver, heart or kidneys.
 
@Olaf I will consider it, maybe after a tequila pre-starter.
 
@MartinJames Or a good Cognac/Brandy. I had mine with a light (not in the sense of "no alcohol/sugar/fat) white wine. To be clear: there are only some specific species of snails. I'd not try to eat some naked snails from your garden. But I should be able to find the right ones here in the local vineyards
 
@Olaf I guess a couple bottles of dry chardonnay would make almost anything go down, (though with the fish, I would expect a return).
 
8:47 PM
@MartinJames Nah, if I pay good money for food, I prefer to remember it the next day. Shooting myself with booze is more for cheapo/everyday stuff.
And it's more Rheinhessen/Rheinpfalz for me.
A Silvaner for instance.
 
@Olaf A good, oaked chardonnay is not booze. I love the way it brings out tastes and, unlike cognac, you can drink a lot of it and still enjoy a good steak, (or whatever). Still need a taxi, but I can remember the taste the next day:)
 
@MartinJames Well, I drink a Chardonay if I'm not so sure (it's like a wildcard). In a good restaurant I normally ask for a recommendation. And remember I live pretty much in the middle of one (if not _the) of Germany's major vineyard areas. For a steak I prefer a good, strong but not too bitter beer, though. Maybe a dark Weizen.
 
'I live pretty much in the middle of one (if not _the) of Germany's major vineyard areas.' meh.. you know I hate you now, right?
@Olaf ..though I'm with you on the dark Weizen:)
 
@MartinJames DOes it help if I tell you I very rarely drink wine (or beer) at all? Actually I use more wine for cooking than drinking. If I drink some at home, it's in winter and then it's mostly Port (after I used most of it for a sauce with duck).
 
@Olaf It doesn't help much, no. We live ~6km from the UK vineyards, (Tesco, Asda, Lidl).
 
9:00 PM
@MartinJames Our local Rewe supermarket has a very special selection of craft beers over the year. And they even have a sommelier.
@MartinJames No idea about Asda, but the other two are actually not UK :-P
 
@Olaf Your supermarkets have sommeliers? That's just so,..... something.
@Olaf IKR, but that's our vineyard-substitiute.
 
Tesco is British
 
@MartinJames That one does. I've never seen one in a supermarket elsewhere. It's indeed quite a special supermarket. Must be because it's near the Heidelberg University Main Hospital and there're a lot of better-off customers. I better not tell you what else they have. Interestingly, there's an Aldi right next to it and a Lidl ca. 100m from it. The Lidl has the best cheapo smoked salmon of all three.
@StephenKennedy Oh? I thought it was US.
 
@Olaf There are areas of the UK that produce ummm.. 'wine', but it's, well, how can I put it....... sub-prime.
 
@StephenKennedy: Ok, I stand corrected according to WP.
 
9:06 PM
@Olaf They tried opening stores in the US. It didn't go well.
 
@MartinJames You mean a mixture of grape juice and acid?
@MartinJames Well, they should have asked Aldi which is doing very well in the US.
 
@Olaf Well, from the taste..... low PH, yes.
 
Interstingly Wallmark failed here.
 
@Olaf No sommeliers:)
 
Walmart? They bought Asda that Martin mentioned
 
9:09 PM
@StephenKennedy It's getting very difficult to know who owns what with these multinationals. Probably, in the end, W. Buffet owns them all:)
 
@MartinJames I'd be careful with british wine, beer and brandy anyway. I'm not into Gin either, that leaves not much from England. But I won't debate about Scotch Whisky.
@MartinJames I meant Germany in general. But fine, now everyone thinks German superparkets all have sommeliers. (What#s the corresponding name for beer?)
 
@Olaf I will complain loudly next time I'm in a German market if there is nobody to help with my wine selections:)
 
I remember time before last when I was in the airport duty free on the way home from visiting the in-laws. Had a bit of the local currency left, so decided to get some nice Scotch (Talisker Skye), thinking it'd be cheaper than back home
 
@MartinJames I just see it before my eyes: You standing in your local Lidl, complaining loudly. If I were you I'd watch out for an alternative supply for your pizza with sauerkraut, etc. :-)
 
Forgot to take into account that it'd already been shipped to the other side of the world, and that I was flying it back to less than 500 miles from the distillery (da na na naaa)
Made the more sensible option of bringing home a local spirit this time :)
@Olaf If you avoid the mass-produced big-label beers, there's a very good Real Ale and Craft Beer scene in the UK currently
 
9:16 PM
@MichaelDodd Well, I guess I can always fall back on Bass/Marstons breweries as my local booze industry. Though infected by Coors, the beers are still fine, (ATM).
 
@MichaelDodd That has not much to say these days. For instance PC parts like Graphics cards were much cheaper here than in Malaysia (where a lot of the dies are packaged). Ok, that was ca. 20 years ago, but from what I see occassionally, a lot stuff is still cheaper here.
 
@MichaelDodd Directors, Doom Bar, Pedigree, Landlord: all my friends:)
 
@MichaelDodd Quite similar here, too. We also have some local breweries. Problem is I just don't drink much alcohol anyway. But once in a while I try something new if the description is appealing. I don't have a specific brand, though. Just Oettinger Maltbeer (naturally non-alcoholic, but very sweet, often drunk by kids) is fine from time to time.
I still have to figure out the differences between Ale, Stout, Lager and this and that. I normally go by taste.
 
@MartinJames Oh aye, good list. Got a few decent craft and microbreweries that have sprung up around Southampton over the past couple of years, Unity being by far my favourite.
 
@MartinJames Doom Bar? Do you get a BFG9000 with that?
 
9:21 PM
@MartinJames And there's Ringwood brewery on the other side of the New Forest. Haven't been though as public transport to there is a pain and my wife doesn't drive
 
@MichaelDodd Hmm... will look out for that one:)
 
@MichaelDodd Which leads to my other problem. I'm normally the one to drive. Owrse: it's mostly my own fault, as I hate being driven.
 
@Olaf You'd probably need one to fend away the Cornish locals :P
 
@MichaelDodd lol, I have the other problem - Anne does drive but, unfortunately, also drinks. Getting a lift back from, say, a beer festival counts as a favour I have to repay:(
 
@MichaelDodd Be careful,. you might get into trouble with Morgan le Fay.
 
9:24 PM
@Olaf I spent 11 years in Plymouth, I have a license* to take the mick out of the Cornish ;)
 
@MichaelDodd I lived ca. 10 years in Bavaria. Which earned me the right to leave …
 
@MartinJames Fun fact, I have a full driving license for the UK, but my wife doesn't. The exact opposite is true for Taiwan.
Not that I'd like to drive over there anyway
 
@MichaelDodd OK, then you should get ratted in Taiwan more often:)
 
@MartinJames I certainly did last week :D
 
@MichaelDodd lol
 
9:26 PM
What is the local drinks in Taiwan? Some variant of rice beer or Sake?
 
Well, again a big craft beer scene has sprung up in recent years so that was me sorted, but mainly spirits as the tax is cheaper than on mid-percentage alcohol
probably the most famous drink is Kaoliang, a white spirit (rice based? not sure). Brought back a 52% bottle with me
 
@MichaelDodd That's not too bad. Problem is just one gets shot dead too quickly.
 
@Olaf I would imagine so, yes, at that kind of lethal strength.
 
@MichaelDodd According to WP it's sorghum-based.
 
@Olaf Shotgun-based.
 
9:34 PM
@MartinJames Would require mixing with juices or other stuff. Well, why not
 
@Olaf It's served in a glass not too dissimilar to a shot glass. Which I mistook it for when my wife's uncle gave me a glass at a family meal. Thankfully he stopped me before I necked the whole thing!
 
@MichaelDodd Well, ok, 52% is pretty much, but we have rye and wheat booze which is in that region, too and they are drunk as shots at once.
 
@Olaf I knew it was a grass, but I'm not sure from where. It's annoying. I will now spend all night trying to remember where I read about it before:(
 
@MartinJames Well, with rice, wheat, rye, sugarcane being grasses the odds were good:-)
 
Anyway all, I must go and get an early night. I was up early this morning, and now I'm totally PHP'd. AFK
 
9:42 PM
@MartinJames N8!
 
9:55 PM
@Olaf I think it could be drunk as a shot, it's just not the "proper" way of drinking it
 
@MichaelDodd I got that. It's pretty much like with sake I suppose. That is also drunk is small portions, despite the homeopathic doses.
 
@Olaf Haven't had sake in ages, can't remember the last time, must've been sometime during the big otaku phase in my late teens/early 20s
 
@MichaelDodd Lol, looks like we have something in common. In my 20ies I had achinese/japanese food/drink/style phase. But, well, I have sake from time to time as it's the perfect companion for e.g. good sushi.
 
10:23 PM
@Yam A mod used his power. Well … I think I should not object.
 
@Olaf tempted to CV as no-code
 
@JohnDvorak Feel free. I'm out as I was one of the original CVers (I also posted a cv-pls). The answer does not really solve the problem (no idea why it silences the compiler, though, maybe an extension).
 
right, night all :)
 
11:10 PM
Seriously that's where we want to go? To me this looks completely ridiculous.
 

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