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00:42
looking for a duplicate as well...
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@Makyen thanks, it will. I enjoy study and have a good track record. The issue with last session was I took a bigger study load than is usual and in a shorter session. so it was hectic to say the least
01:09
@YvetteColomb hiya
 
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^Blatant spam
I put some more and items in the queue, they should be arriving there shortly.
05:06
@Makyen Won't that one already Roomba, since it's old and has a negative score?
@Makyen Do you happen to remember the rules for when you're allowed to burninate very small tags by consulting a 20k+ user? It came up on Meta earlier - I remember reading about it on Meta awhile back but don't remember exactly when you're allowed to do it.
@EJoshuaS Yeah, and I thought about it. My concern was that the (now deleted) answer will have bumped the question. I've had a few in similar situations where I've basically decided not to bother and let it wait for the Roomba in 4 days, but then come back later to find that someone placed an answer.
@Makyen Good point - I voted to close, it's a lousy question that should've gone a long time ago
@EJoshuaS "If you have authoritative knowledge of all technologies relevant to the tag, have conferred with at least one other trusted community member, and are dealing with a tag that has a small number of questions (< 50), then you can go ahead and remove it yourself or with a little ad hoc help." (from this Meta)
@Makyen Thanks, couldn't remember where I read that
@EJoshuaS np.
05:22
So many horrible questions, so few close votes :(
05:43
^ give me exam questions ?!
Still a touch better than wanting the answers
 
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Ron
Ron
07:23
@Makyen Makes sense. I should get into the habit of using one for private projects too.
07:42
Morning \o
 
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Sam
Sam
09:26
Morning o/
Hiya @Samey \o
09:57
@Makyen Just seen your post about editing. If I think that its desperately needs it to make the post readable then I will do it, using instead of . I always try and use the correct format I prefer my straightjacket optional :)
 
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12:36
? really?
@SurajRao maybe in preparation for tomorrow?
@rene unfortunately this one will end in heartbreak
@SurajRao and heartbleed ...
13:09
@SurajRao Lots of bad tagging there. heartshape is gone now
@Machavity didnt even wait for tomorrow :p
13:49
Morning
morning
Sam
Sam
morning
morning
morning
morning
13:53
Morning
darn 7 cabin long train
LTNS!
booooo
@EJoshuaS Trains are case sensitive :(
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13:55
@Machavity ack... I suppose I should've guessed :(.
14:56
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs you don't need to request access to the graveyard. That's where we store requests. It's not for discussions.
I see that now xD
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs see also: socvr.org/…
@rene will do thanks.
oh look, the website is working.....what a concept!
It seems the new modem hasn't crashed yet, so...progress?
@gunr2171 cable got repaired?
14:58
@gunr2171 Why is the website open? We're about closing things
Originally the issue was that the cable signal was literally "off the charts", so they put a signal damper on it. Then it was that every 15 or so minutes the modem he was using was crashing. This new one must be good now. There is still a technician showing up (probably in a few hours) to look at it again.
@gunr2171 to look at ... I can look at it myself. I would rather have the technician fixes the frigging modem ...
@rene well, if they can't fix it we're going back to the previous ISP.
@gunr2171 :-/
@StephenKennedy No sure if Broadway is all that broad, really, not compared with the question. Broadway is funny anyway since it doesn't follow the grid pattern. Maybe Central Park screwed it up.
Ron
Ron
15:05
Heat pump or pellets central heating stow, that is the question.
blast furnace
or a foundry
@MartinJames I'm a buffalo soldier, broader than Broadway Keep keepin' on, I don't care what they say
@StephenKennedy lol
@Ron Wot cold sink you got? You have a convenient lake in the sprawling estate round your mansion?
I recently (last week) got 4 downvotes on old zero-score answers, on, admittedly, not great questions which haven't been active ever since I answered them. Is this already enough to modflag as revenge DVs? (it's not "serial" in as much that there have not been more than 2 on a single day)
Ron
Ron
@MartinJames My micro mansions is about 150 m2 of space that needs heating. On a 200 m2 lot. No place for a lake... Yet.
Actually it's 250 m2 lot on a 200m elevation in what passes for continental Europe.
15:11
@Ron 200m elevation?!? Won't be The Netherlands then (or Denmark for that matter)
Ron
Ron
Geographically at least.
Mount Rotterdam?
Ron
Ron
I was thinking a 25 KW pellet heater would do. No boiler storage, just central heating and radiators. Actually it's around 100 m2 that needs heating.
@StephenKennedy Sadly no. It's going south like the majority of C++ questions.
@StephenKennedy Does the Euromast have a penthouse?
@rene that's not at 200m right?
15:19
I never climbed the thing so I couldn't tell
@Adriaan If it does I'd be interested in renting it
I wouldn't be surprised if they think it is as big as that soccer club found there ...
@Adriaan you might give it a try but I wouldn't have high hopes.
@rene thanks. I'll leave it be for a bit and if this persist I'll flag
Ron
Ron
Apparently Austria still insists on formal education when issuing a work permit. Good luck with that.
@Nkosi Any recommendations on the pellets heater brand?
I kid you, subtropical lucky chum.
@Nkosi edited, not longer an off-site resource request IMO
Ron
Ron
15:32
Can you force a compiler to issue a warning even if there isn't a built-in one?
Ron
Ron
Now it's unclear question imho.
@Ron Which language? In C there is only an #error preprocessor directive by the standard, but e.g. gcc supports a warning directive as extension in C and C++.
Ron
Ron
15:34
C, the sharp edition.
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@Ron The compiler is open-source and the built-in compiler can be replaced by way of a Nuget package, so in theory yes...
Somebody also mentioned FXCop extensions and Rosyln analysers
@Ron C-knife-knife? What?
Ron
Ron
@StephenKennedy I see. Thanks. I left the managed waters some years ago.
@Ron We have a C# compiler written in C# now (Rosyln)
Ron
Ron
@StephenKennedy I've finally found my language of choice. Took me about 13 years of software development to do so.
And I even did PH... Can't say it out loud.
15:42
@Ron C of the increment edition?
Ron
Ron
The very same.
Opinion please: Does the second paragraph make this old answer NOT an NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/340371/397817
@StephenKennedy Yeah, I wouldn't NAA that
@Machavity Thanks
@Ron #warning Hey this is some text in c#
dur
dur
16:08
@Machavity Would a mod remove this answer, although this answer is accepted and has 17 upvotes?
@dur It does contain an answer. It doesn't explain it like a good answer
dur
dur
@Machavity Sorry, I misread your post. I thought you would flag it. However, in general, what if an answer contains no answer and is accepted? Would a mod remove it?
@dur If it's truly a link-only answer, flag it
dur
dur
@Machavity Ok, thanks.
@dur Ah, so looking into this I now understand why an answer I flagged has taken an age to get through the queue. I didn't realise accepted answers would go straight to a mod. ( stackoverflow.com/a/12399729/397817 "Check this blog". Should be pretty clear cut even when presented to a mod?)
16:14
@StephenKennedy good to know. I wasn't aware either.
Here is relevant meta for those who are interested meta.stackexchange.com/a/253339/168807
@StephenKennedy Mods also review deletion reviews of positive score questions
How do mods get any sleep?! (rhetorical)
@Makyen another question about editing, and reviewing in general, can you see what others have chosen when you review. For instance can you see if someone else has rejected the edit, or is it a blind review?
16:26
@JakeSymons Reviews are publicly viewable. Here's NathanOliver's (since you have no reviews yourself)
It's blind until you hit Reject. Then if someone else has already rejected, you see the reason they gave. Is public record once complete.
Also we see who proposed the edit, but we get more detail only when the review is done i.e. the stats of editor and reviewers.
@StephenKennedy Great, just wondering because I do a lot of editing so I get a lot of reviews, thanks for clearing that up :)
@JakeSymons What @StephenKennedy said.
@JakeSymons Yes I know. I rejected one of them ;) Nothing personal of course.
@StephenKennedy Yeah, I get a few rejected now and again :)
16:33
Level of hunger: famished.
while hungry: do eat food;
No idea what language that was meant to be ^
English =w=
17:04
@SotiriosDelimanolis I really don't understand this 'Random Syntax Syndrome'. It's not like there are no examples out there:(
VTC as off-topic: stackoverflow.com/questions/43770224/… ... (also, the answer is NAA)
Ron
Ron
There is a highly upvoted C++ question. The drinks are on me.
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Hasn't happened in a while.
@Ron Starred, and filed in memory. Free drinks are the best kind.
Ron
Ron
@StephenKennedy C++ tag is a riot. Almost every time I look at the page I see downvoted questions. And I am sorry to say - rightfully so.
@JakeSymons That's a tremendous screen shot he linked to - beautiful
17:21
@StephenKennedy yeah
@StephenKennedy too bad it's wrong
He has the noble gasses listed as post-transition metals
and the post transition metals listed as alkali
I'm guessing the color scheme was just a placeholder
@Ron I heard that the best way to make friends in the tag is to also tag your questions . Is that true?
@TylerH Hopefully so, yes
Hmm, all this time I thought WPF stood for Word Perfect Forms
No wonder I was confused why people were still asking WPF questions
I always thought is was a dyslexic WTF
Ron
Ron
@StephenKennedy Haha, nice one.
@Machavity Why did they migrate that if its off topic?
17:29
@JakeSymons Where did you see it was migrated?
@Machavity When it said projected, for some reason I thought it said migrated
Me trying to scan read :)
Ron
Ron
Talk about thin ice.
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Not doing to well today, got 60 flags left. But then I have bee doing other things all day so that's probably why :)
18:05
Agh the help vampire latched onto me, get it off!
18:20
@Compass Quick! Use fire, beheading, ash/hickory stake or cv.
@Ron The universe balances itself - Compass is bleeding out from a vamp.
Is this on topic? I think it's too broad, but I'm not literate in those tags yet, so I'm checking first before I put in a request
What would be an appropriate close reason for this? Or is it OK to leave it open? (It's just a bit smelly, you see...)
Yep - makes sense.
@JakeSymons 'i did a little bit research on it but did not got any thing yet' - did not elaborate. Anyone wishing to help will waste time gong over stuff that's been looked at before, so a fail. Imma cving it, anyway.
18:35
@MartinJames What are you cving for?
@JakeSymons Too broad.
As 'an insult to all that is good and holy'?
@genpfault A reason is required with del-pls requests. Please explain why this should be deleted (i.e. how it's causing harm to have it on the site).
@Makyen: Hrm, don't really have anything better than "I really don't like tutorial requests" and it got bumped recently. I'm happy to remove my request if that isn't enough.
I have this question which was closed as a duplicate. Is this causing harm on the site and needs deletion, or is it okay sitting there. Thought I'd check while we're talking about deletion
18:43
@genpfault I don't like that either. It's a blatantly off-topic Q with cucumbers.
@JakeSymons I don't see any harm. Looks like a solid Q with good answers. I'd just leave it. We tend to nuke the low quality or zero research ones
Written in the second person as well, looks like they have c&ped the instructions
@JakeSymons As I understand it, duplicates are generally not deleted unless they're terrible, as they serve as signposts. That one clearly isn't terrible.
@genpfault Personally, I'm very wary of deleting questions with a large number of views. Having a large number of views, relative to its age, is an indicator that the question has value to people. Our deletion privilege is specifically for questions "that are of no lasting value whatsoever". To me a large number of views is indicative that it does not meet this criteria. This is, however, a personal opinion. I'm not aware of a meta which provides explicit guidelines for what indicates "value".
@Makyen: That sounds like a reasonable stance (and I had mistakenly thought the cvs-pls "have recent activity on the question (Edits, VLQ/NAA answer)" criteria extended to del-pls), removing my del-pls. Thanks for the clarification!
18:50
@JakeSymons Yup - h/w copypasta for sure:(
.../me says optimistically, not realizing there isn't a chat delete option :/
OK, as devil's advocate (sub 10k rep though): It's just a long-winded request for offsite resources. That's Google's job. Leaving such junk lying around encourages more of the same. Recommendation: Nuke it! (re @genpfault chat)
I googled for the question number and stackoverflow.com ... I'm convinced we didn't break the internet with deleting that specific question. Don't take this as a general OK to request deletion of all high viewed posts on SO.
@genpfault To remove a request, you need to ping an RO. Our only available option is to move it to a different room. For SOCVR, we use the SOCVR Sanitarium for such things. Only moderators can actually delete messages. Users can "delete" their own messages within the edit/delete window of 2 minutes. Such messages are shown as "(removed)" in the chat room, but there's still a record of the message, including it's history and contents, which is available to ROs.
19:04
@Makyen Straightjackets are not optional :) I think mine is now, its been a while since my posts were sent there
@StephenKennedy Ultimately, it will be deleted, as delete votes never expire and can't be retracted.
@StephenKennedy I'm not saying that everything with a large number of views shouldn't be deleted; just that we should be reluctant to do so, and that any delete-vote should be carefully considered wrt. to the lasting value of the post (which we're explicitly charged to do when using the delete privilege). In some cases, it will be a question which other people find value in (link is to an extreme example).
@Makyen Thanks for all the info. Sounds like muddy waters indeed and I can understand having a tough justification requirement here lest controversy comes to the room.
19:19
@JakeSymons someone needs to feed the trash monster or else it gets frozen over :)
19:55
everything is blurry because my eyes are dilated
@Compass Did you get your laser upgraded?
@Compass Put some WD40 vaseline on them
was concrned i was getting a retinal detachment
but apparently i am fine and i just have a lot of floaters
also right now i cant read your replies because they are so blurry i can't tell if they're all caps or not
ok i can read it at 200%
@SotiriosDelimanolis That needs to be closed forst
No my laser was not upgraded, and they are dilated not dry and unlubd :|
19:57
@SotiriosDelimanolis You sure you wanted a del-pls? The question is open with only 1 close-vote.
Ohmy
too used to the delete
Luckily I am a touch typist so I can type without staring at the keyboard
also because I am a cat.
I went for large highlighted caps
@JakeSymons with large freehand circles
yes
it is very blurry
even at that size
ironically moving it away from me makes it easier to read
right now with the computer two feet from me i can read but any closer and it becomes jumbled
Programming sure is hard when you can't see
I can type all I want, but I can't for the life of me read this compile error :thonk:
20:03
@Compass Just copy the error into a question with something along the lines of "I AM A BLIND CAT PLEASE HELP ME OUT THANKS IN A DANCE"
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20:14
:thonk
does that say advance or A DANCE
asking for a friend
wow it says a dance
my brain read advance
20:32
Questions that are clearly closeable as off-topic - they shouldn't be answered, right? E.g. typo questions; I frequently downvote answers to them
Guess I'm asking whether that's an appropriate use of downvotes. I know I'm free to downvote how I feel, but there are still places where it's better to use downvotes than others
We have a canned "Please don't answer typos" in the Comments feed
I don't have the auto-comments on this machine, and I'm probably not going to get the extension :/
And... I realized I could just go to the github page to copy it.
20:55
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs make sure to add [tag:cv-pls] to the start of requests. That helps members know what you're requesting and RO's have tools to migrate requests based on that anchor. See how do I format?.
@FrankerZ actually, I'd go with no mcve. The "I tried using that one and it gets part of the way there but dies at the point of issuing the actual commands since it doesn't recognize them" is the actual intent of the question.
last person to vote, meh
Ron
Ron
@MartinJames Nice one :)
hi \o
21:28
hi \o
hi \o
hi o/
@gunr2171 gtk. Thanks for the reference
....and it's bookmarked
hi all \o
sorry for breaking the chain
xD
21:37
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Q: Is [project] too broad?

Patrick RobertsI could be mistaken, but this tag seems about as helpful as something like program, which is to say, it is not helpful here. Before burnination can begin, there is an ambiguity that needs to be dealt with first, so applicable questions need to be retagged manually. As indicated by the wiki for p...

Dom
Dom
21:50
Hello folks. I wonder if you could help me. I'm trying to figure out which SE is most appropriate to ask a question, but before that I need to figure out which chat room is the appropriate place to ask where I should ask the question. Any ideas where to go next?
*blink blink*
Dom
Dom
I chose here as a starting point, because you guys have a decent idea of what's on topic and where..
@Dom I believe the dungeon is appropriate for trolls
Dom
Dom
That's pretty abrasive dude
I'm not trolling anything
@Dom try the tavern if it is very generic. Assuming non of the existing on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/site-recommendation are helpful
21:53
You're essentially asking for a meeting to schedule a meeting
@TylerH I think he's legit
You know, imagine him asking here and being shouted at for it. He wants to avoid the case.
I mean, no one should shout at him
but he should just ask instead of asking if he can ask where to ask
@TylerH ears perk up
Dom
Dom
There are at least 4 semi-appropriate SEs for it so it's a tricky one
21:55
@gunr2171 I knew you would appear
it's like beetlejuice
Now that Tyler has forbidden metaquestions, let's have Dom ask his question here
@Dom if it still is in the programming/ computer field you can ask on MSO with a site-recommendaton tag bit check the tag wiki before asking.
Dom
Dom
@rene Thanks, I think I'll try the tavern first and see if they recommend the same.
heads over to the tavern to recommend the same
I think you scared him, @TylerH
21:59
And this is why my room has the rules it has gist.github.com/Tyler-H/9a16bc9c27c2d6673a37ba6824236025
specifically #2
@TylerH we should have rulez ....
@rene rules are for meetings
so only gunr would have to follow them
I'm in the Top Answerers of site-recommendation. So I'm the master in sending people in all kind of directions, but not to SO.
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If only we could have a separate tag for JAVA questions.
22:03
@rene you are a pro bureaucrat
22:17
Bed time again yawn, cya! o/
@rene I bet they love you on 'webmasters' :)
I'm loved, don't worry.
I'm afk for the night
btw I ♥ the chat's userscript o.0
Hmm, I think I heard of da wa.

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