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Merry Christmas SOCVR peeps
 
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@Makyen I'll look more closely at our charcoal discussion in a couple of days. :)
 
2:20 AM
@YvetteColomb Merry Christmas!!
 
2:39 AM
@YvetteColomb np. Definitely not a high priority.
@YvetteColomb Merry Christmas to you too.
 
 
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4:14 AM
@YvetteColomb Merry Christmas
 
 
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7:29 AM
@StephenKennedy sure, done
Merry whatever you believe in to everyone.
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8:35 AM
Goals for today: Confuse one mod - Check.
 
9:04 AM
@Enzokie typo fixed. OP getting same output.
 
9:23 AM
@double-beep the OP seems invalidated the answer
As I see it is now a new question.
 
 
 
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11:48 AM
I put a few more questions into the CV queue
 
Merry Christmas all :)
 
jww
@MichaelDodd - Lol... Doesn't that offend some people? Are we allowed to do that anymore under that ridiculous Code of Conduct and its enforcement?
 
@jww Only those that believe what they read in the Daily Mail :)
 
12:28 PM
 
 
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2:34 PM
Hi all, what do you think about questions like this, that clearly have an acceptable answer that OP unfortunately fails to mark and hence keep attracting new answers? Is it legitimate to abuse a close reason? Protecting such questions doesn't always help.
 
@GertArnold even if a question has an accepted answer it can still attract new answers
 
@GertArnold even question with accepted answer keep getting more and more answers.
 
That said, I don't think abusing closure is good thing to do here
 
you can downvote any new answer if you think it's irrelevant or just repeating old ones, the user will probably delete it alone
 
If it really gets annoying on for example good cannonicals I would opt for a community wiki lock . Those go either by a flag or an MSO post
 
2:39 PM
@rene Sure, but in my experience people do that less often.
 
@GertArnold but in that case it would
 
@rene That sounds like a good suggestion, I guess this is what you're referring to? I think I'll go that path.
 
@GertArnold yes
 
@rene OK, thanks!
 
yw
 
2:49 PM
Any 20k user ok with burninating ? It's an obvious meta tag - tag Wiki doesn't help, mostly just "I'm writing this for a MOOC" questions.
 
3:01 PM
@EJoshuaS fine with me
 
@rene Thanks
I put some questions for it in the queue if anyone has votes. There are also some 10k-eligible questions that won't Roomba due to accepted answers that probably deserve to be deleted.
 
@rene Fortunately in this case I found a duplicate that answers the question better than all other answers.
 
also awesome ;)
 
 
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4:20 PM
Hello,
Happy Christmas
How are you?
 
@ChrisP Listening to a jazzified Bach, Stack Overflow on the back burner: fine. Same to you.
 
4:33 PM
Happy Christmas isn't here. Check the Christianity room.
 
:o
Happy Festivus then?
Boxing Day? -- not yet
Hanukkah? -- long past
 
I may have seen MrKrampus pass by just recently
 
5:24 PM
@JonClements merry xmas, thanks for helping i.stack.imgur.com/PiE2v.png
 
Still some questions in the queue for those with votes
So, this answer and the other one by the poster both have undisclosed links to their blog. Both appear to be attempts to answer the question. Should I edit or flag as spam?
 
5:40 PM
@EJoshuaS just add proper attribution and leave a comment to the help about self-promotion
 
@Cœur Umm.... why does that woman have my wig on her stick :)
 
@JonClements it's a secret hat
 
There so should be a hat called p-p-p puppy power or something :)
anyway merry xmas one and all :)
 
5:55 PM
Merry Christmas SOCVR
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Mind your own business, will you. Oh wait I'm not Scrooge here ...
 
@rene are you not? Ummm... you're a bloomin' good impersonator then my flowery friend :)
 
:D
 
@rene come on... say bah humbug... you know you want to :p
 
6:21 PM
@EJoshuaS A spam flag is almost never appropriate on something that is an actual attempt to answer. If you feel the situation rises to the level where you should flag, then a custom mod-flag is almost always more appropriate, because understanding why you are flagging requires more context than just saying "this is spam".
For something that's an attempt to answer which contains undisclosed affiliation, I almost always leave a comment first and give the user time to edit in the disclosure. I'll usually schedule a revisit to the post(s) to reevaluate in some amount of time, commonly a day or two, assuming the user isn't that active. Only very rarely will I edit the disclosure in for the user, as I consider it to be the OP's job and
while I can consider the likelihood of the user being affiliated to be quite high, being certain about the affiliation is moderately rare.
 
I've fired up the oven which took that literally ...
 
6:53 PM
The burnination is currently featured. Please evaluate as to if you feel it should be burninated.
 
7:37 PM
@Makyen Yeah, the fact that it contained an actual attempt to answer is the reason I asked. If it's part of a post that supplies actual information, that's a very different case than if the post literally contains nothing but self-promotion.
 
8:12 PM
 
jww
8:44 PM
Are there any Java security folks in the room?
 
@jww umm... is my coffee in danger then? /me looks around cautiously...
 
jww
@No, you're OK. Python may work too... Do you know how Python returns an Ed25519 signature? Is it ASN.1 encoded with a SEQUENCE around r||s? Or is it a simple byte array of r||s?
 
9:07 PM
@jww no clue at all I'm afraid
 
9:40 PM
TIL playing quiz games at the family house for xmas - Grumpy Cat's real name is "Tardus Sauce" - think that pretty much explains the grumpy look to be honest :)
 
9:50 PM
I recently raised a flag on some question and at the same time mentioned an answerer does a lot of self promotion without disclosing affiliation. The flag was deemed helpful. But I've not seen any "change" or "result". I guess about 80-85% is self promotion. Is there anything else I should do at this point?
 
@JonClements I think I could manage a smile if I earned as much as him
 
@DavidWalschots Are the posts purely self-promotion, or do they have legitimate content too?
 
Actually, my typo/cannot reproduce above should be closed as a duplicate question
 
@DavidWalschots nope - I reviewed that flag... I've made a note to review the situation again later - for now though, you did what you could by flagging it and drawing attention to it, but ultimately, just don't worry about it for now.
 
Alright :-)
Thank you :-)
 
9:55 PM
@DavidWalschots also - there's no saying whether we've contacted the user or not etc... which is something we never disclose... so your flag helped... you've done your bit - up to us now to do ours :p
(ps - I did edit out the user you reference in your chat message - SOCVR doesn't focus on users - while it's great to ask for general advice about "something in general" - and you can always pretty much find a mod here - there's no need to call out a user - however discretely)
 
@JonClements They'll often get a warning for a first offense and only get suspended if they persist in the behavior, right?
 
@EJoshuaS it's not always that simple
 
hm?
 
I'm guessing a lot will depend on how grievous the offense is.
 
There's a mix between blatantly doing stuff and trying to sneak it behind the radar... there's also some people that genuinely think they're helping and then you get others that have other contributions but got lazy just pointing to a github repo a few times... etc...
 
10:01 PM
<=== is happy not being a mod
 
you also get people that are so over-joyed with finding a solution somewhere, think it's worth their time, to go back through the posts they originally looked at when trying to find a solution and want everyone else to know there's a solution etc...
 
@JonClements Isn't that a desirable behavior to post an answer to the questions you've looked at when trying to find it?
 
@JohnDvorak oh yes... but sometimes - people can get carried away with wanting everyone to know the solution...
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Personally, I'd like to be able to Insta-close stuff. Any way to have the superpowers without the responsibility?
 
@EJoshuaS oh wait... wat... someone mentioned responsibilities? Sheesh... this just gets trickier year by year...
 
10:04 PM
@EJoshuaS: that's just it, you'd have greatly increased responsibilities, sort of like Spiderman
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels so you don't like grey areas? :p
 
Herding cats, but having to be NICE while doing it, sheesh is right
@JonClements: been there/done that over at Java Ranch years ago
 
and loved it? :)
 
er,... not exactly
 
What I've learned in programming: Everyone should get exactly one responsibility. If you find a person with more than one responsibility, you need to cut them in pieces.
 
10:06 PM
LOL
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Their offense is very grievous. Every day the sun is darkened in my eyes and my food loses its flavor because the posts aren't deleted yet.
 
@EJoshuaS: and yet, life goes on, the world turns, and another day will dawn
 
Yeah, couldn't resist the Narnia reference. Cut me some slack, my second-highest rep is on Lit.SE.
 
Ah, not a Narnia nerd -- never could get into that, unlike TLOTR
 
10:16 PM
@DavidWalschots on a side note though - if you notice anything that's potentially "iffy" before we do - just raise a flag again and it'll remind us to double check
@HovercraftFullOfEels Use the force Picard (muttered Harry Potter to Arthur Dent)...
 
Narnia, TLOTR, HP... I got to 3k on Sci Fi SE almost exclusively on HP Q&A.
 
@EJoshuaS never had much on sci-fi do some really big data-research questions, downloading databases, querying them etc... and they get very few upvotes :(
@HovercraftFullOfEels as I noticed it - would be amiss to not note it - last comment on that java question by ben would have be much better without the first sentence
@EJoshuaS this one took me about 5 hours between downloading the database, writing a parser, feeding it into a graph database and then remembering how to query the bloomin' thing... while another answer with some vagaries and best guesses does better shrugs
 
@JonClements thank you and I will. Sorry about "caling out" the user. I'll not do it next time :-).
 
@DavidWalschots no harm done and thanks again :)
 
10:38 PM
@JonClements: Yes you're of course right. As sir William Osler would say, "aequanimitas"
... but it's a lot harder to do in practice
... and at least I didn't say "damn" ;)
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels or as Jon Clements would say "Don't want waste time typing something not needed"? :p
@EJoshuaS there's the still idea of "weighting" close votes - keeps coming up... whether that's ever going to happen and how it could be worked out in anyway that could work the community would find acceptable at all is another thing though...
@EJoshuaS bear in mind sometimes that even people with a gold badge when closing as a duplicate don't want it binding...
 
10:54 PM
@JonClements Yeah, I've lobbied for that one on Meta (or for reducing the number of close votes required to close something, 5 seems excessive for our site)
 
(plus when you have a diamond you don't have a "sit on the fence" possible... it's quite nice as a user to be able to vote along the lines "I'm not entirely sure... but it's probably is/isn't correct") and then get consensus)... poor mods can only choose one direction and that's it - whatever it is, closing, deleting, reviewing, it's immediately done that way.
 
@JonClements: yes, sometimes I type out "possible duplicate of...." just so it isn't binding on Java questions that I really believe that it is possibly a dup. It would be nice for a way to have a choice automatically do this, but I know this isn't a "dump on the mod witch session"
 
but he turned me into a newt you know!
I got better though...
 
might try a drop of this brandy my brother gave me for xmas...
ahh nope... not brandy... whisky aged 40 years in brandy casks or something
bet this one is going to make me feel guilty... got him a new vinyl player, a few LPs he loves, some creed aftershave stuff and a joke t-shirt...
 
11:09 PM
Whoa, now you're talking my language!
In fact my daughter gave me a book on fermentation
 
she trying to tell you something? :p
youch... this distillery only makes 800 bottles a year and there's a two year waiting list to get another...
f*ing hell - thanks bruv...
that one's going into the deepest darker corner of the cupboard ever...
 
11:27 PM
That is love in its truest sense ever
Japanese whiskey, Youchi
 
11:47 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels are you taking about yamazaki?
 

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