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00:40
@MartinJames A a bare-metal something with XML integrated? Must have!
@MartinJames Anyone else think this should be flagged as rude/abusive?
00:54
@BrockAdams It will be deleted eventually anyway. It's that time of the year where people run in wheels, so I'd saygive him his 5 minutes of trolling.
@Olaf I bow to the consensus then. But still cast a delete vote...
@BrockAdams Wow, my single vote is the consensus? Careful, I might become megalomaniacal.
It is at this time of day... Congratulations!
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01:10
@BrockAdams I flagged it as abusive.
I put a few more questions in th
*in the cv queue
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@EJoshuaS See I thought you were referring to a table header cell somewhere.
@TinyGiant Good. And of course he edited the worst language out...
That's what I get for unit testing for so long I guess
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@BrockAdams It's still an abuse of the system
01:13
Yes it is, but I'm flag-shy these days (curse tolerant mods).
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lol
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All it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.
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Awwee... I was having fun with that one.
Or for "understanding" people to pull the rug out, when someone flags evil.
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@BrockAdams A winner is not someone who never fails, a winner is someone who never stops trying (to quote the great mind Tech N9ne)
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01:17
I'm full of all sorts of cheesy sounding inspirational quotes, if you didn't know.
But I listened to "The upside of Quitting" not too long ago...
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@BrockAdams Rehab is for quitters. (to quote a t-shirt I read once)
That's that show with Dr Drew? 'Fraid I ain't up on gay lingo... ;)
But that's enough of that.
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@BrockAdams lol
01:33
@TinyGiant 'Be more productive, dump lunch hour and eat Cheetos at your desk!'
@TinyGiant My favorite is "No Meat, No Eat." :)
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There is no such thing as a dying man. We are alive until the moment that we are dead. A drowning man is just a living man who hasn't run out of his last bit of breath. (Ben Caplan - Down By The River)
01:59
@TinyGiant I remember that one from the rabbit hole. lol. Yeah it hit me too.
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My favorite part of that one is that in the song he actually sounds like he's about to suffocate.
yeah down to the last breath. lol. mic caught it all. it was really good.
With the venture now you tube is only suggesting his videos to me. lol.
 
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04:42
@Nkosi lol
@GrantGarrison Probably - you can mod flag one of their posts and explain the situation.
05:03
@EJoshuaS Ok, am doing now.
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@GrantGarrison We don't allow linking to user profiles in here. In the future please try to generalize the request. Something like "How should I proceed when I find a user's display name offensive?" would have sufficed.
05:20
@TinyGiant Ok.
Do you guys think that should be burninated? I have the request typed up, I was just wondering if you guys thought that it should be burninated.
Here is the burnination request: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/361000/8456454
[antivirus] doesn't really seem like a programming concept to me - I could be wrong, though.
It really isn't (except for one question)
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Q: Disinfect [antivirus]

Grant GarrisonI have looked through the antivirus tag, and I believe that this tag should be burninated. Most of the questions are false-positive questions. Most of the questions are not related to programming at all. In fact, they seem to be requests to delete their viruses. This request is very similar to Er...

05:58
A few new items in the cv queue for by the way
@GrantGarrison The general format for cv-pls requests is [tag:cv-pls] close reason https://stackoverflow.com/q/12345. There are handy userscript tools, including the *-pls request generator. which will create requests for you.
@Makyen thanks
@GrantGarrison erm flag?
@SurajRao They want a suggestion
ninja'ed
06:05
@SurajRao :-)
@Nkosi there?
Thats cool
@GrantGarrison Please be sure to read the SOCVR FAQ and keep in mind that a cv-pls request should not be posted for every off-topic question; Just the ones which fit the criteria and are otherwise permitted (e.g. you didn't ask or answer it).
06:23
@GrantGarrison That question isn't "no MCVE". A MCVE is only required for debugging questions (homework questions must show an attempt). Debugging questions are "why isn't my code working the way I want?" or "fix my code for me". No other question types require code. A question that's asking for code isn't debugging. Thus, this can't be "no MCVE". However, code usually greatly helps to narrow and clarify a question (i.e. without code, questions are often, but not always, "Too Broad" or "Unclear".
06:35
Ok, I just got a little trigger happy with CV request gen! Thanks @TinyGiant @rene @Tunaki @Makyen for the awesome userscript!
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@Makyen hear hear
Zoe
Zoe
08:03
How do you deal with re-asked questions where the original is deleted (and closed)? Can't close as a dupe
Specifically talking about this question. It was asked yesterday, then closed and deleted. The linked one is the one asked today. It's the same OP on both
@Zoe afaik you do nothing. It's sort of OK; all it will get the OP is a question ban if they do that too often. But as long as the dupe target is deleted, it's no longer a dupe.
Zoe
Zoe
Oh, ok. It's still TB, so it'll get closed eventually. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't a different way to do it. Thanks!
The only other way I see is to dig up the original, undelete that one and then close as a dupe, but that just restores more crap on the site
Zoe
Zoe
Yeah. And there's already enough of that around
@Makyen unclear unclear never too broad :D, when they clarify it becomes a dupe....
 
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Its very quiet here today. Everybody leave early for Xmas?
@RiggsFolly I dunno, I was just out of internet for an hour or so. My world collapsed
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@RiggsFolly Yawn....... need moar coffee.....
10:41
Too broad, unclear, or no-mcve? Or neither? stackoverflow.com/questions/47940087/…
Too broad it is.
@AbhishekB. I was asleep at the time of your msg.
11:44
@Nkosi slacker ...
@rene It was a moment of weakness.....I swear.....lol
You're on our watchlist. Don't let it happen again ...
11:57
:(
I'll do my best.
12:14
@Nkosi I know, so do I
12:48
Hi all! o/
Ron
Ron
o/
13:04
@PaulStenne le plop monsieur! How're you doing?
Finally resting a bit after these crazy weeks
@PaulStenne PET-bottle beer gets you innit
Let's not touch that subject haha
You?
Got approval to start my MSc thesis project last Tuesday, since then all I did was play Mass Effect (I know, I bought it five years ago, never touched it, but it's AWESOME)
Ron
Ron
@BaummitAugen Slight off-topic: do you personally leave out the block {} braces when loop has only one statement? I think one should always include those.
13:08
^^ POB. lol
@Adriaan The one about... was it plane radars? Also yeah ME is awesome even if a bit awkward at times
Ron
Ron
Got into a debate with a high rep user on the subject.
I should probably get a 9 to 5 job instead.
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@PaulStenne what are plane radars :P
@Ron If it's up to me, I use braces. But I don't care that much about such formatting style questions anyways, most are readable enough. Just pick one and stick with it.
Officially I'm going to look into "alternative methods to conduct onshore seismic acquisition", in practise that means with a radar system, but they want to keep the term "radar" out of the report for as long as possible due to intellectual property rights
13:13
Wasn't it the detecting some stuff in a cheaper way than with beacons deployed all over the place using an embarked system?
Ah okay
Preferably, add a clang-format file to the project and make everyone use it.
@PaulStenne yes, basically :p
although we call them "geophones" which are receivers :P
Ron
Ron
@BaummitAugen I see. Appreciate it.
@BaummitAugen How do you format the format file tho
@PaulStenne Sort the options alphabetically so you find stuff. That's about all there is to that. :)
13:52
morning!
morning!
it's the last working day before christmas and it's snowing, so the office is mostly empty
woo
@gunr2171 Call a meeting and decide on important stuff.
nope. the only appointment on my calendar is "Early Release at 2pm"
14:02
Let me file some bugs for you then ...
@gunr2171 Wait
You're doing a release on late December?
also Plop
plop
it's just a "you get to leave the office 2 or so hours early today"
then again, because it's snowing a lot of people are working from home today, so it's the same thing
14:22
Ah so it's a human release, cool
14:39
does anyone know how to fix the link at the end of this comment?
Thank you for this link, which might provide some limited, immediate help. An answer should include sufficient context around the link so your fellow users will have some idea what it is and why it’s there. Always quote the most relevant part of an important link, to make it more useful to future readers with other, similar questions. In addition, other users tend to respond negatively to answers which are barely more than a link to an external site, and they [might be deleted](help/deleted-answers). — gunr2171 59 secs ago
(other than using the full url)
(//$SITEURL$/help/deleted-answers) is in the one I use.
@gunr2171 I would close the question itself
yep, that did it, thanks
@Steve true, haven't got that far yet. voted
github repo updated with link fix
Ron
Ron
15:04
Is this one a library recommendation?
@Ron Or algorithm/code request. Either way, the same close-reason.
Ron
Ron
@Olaf Yeah, I agree.
What's the duration of your lunch breaks?
On my last job it was 30 minutes but it was never less than 1h 15 minutes.
15:25
@Ron 1 hour
last job was 30 minutes and I had to clock in and out. It was terrible
Ron
Ron
@gunr2171 Sounds about optimal.
lunch is over when I have eaten enough
@rene Thankfully this does not apply to me, I'd never leave the table. Not alive at least.
Yes, it is a trick to see if you can control yourself.
> 20 items from your Steam wishlist are on sale!
Steam please no
15:40
"Ooh, this game looks interesting. And it's on sale, too!"
"You already own this game." Huh. XD
The ultimate discount
@PaulStenne I've got 25
but I've learned my lesson, don't buy steam games until after christmas, in case your friend wants to buy you one
oh, and @PaulStenne, we thought we were playing a game with you the other day
@gunr2171 I don't see how since I'm not on the first line of that score board
or a scoot
15:57
@gunr2171 'xactly
16:21
> why don't JVM is wrriten in assembly
Was is really worth the time making a sock to post that?
@Makyen mind running the cleanup script?
@TylerH in process. I usually like to vote on the questions that are at 4 CV..
Boop.
@Makyen Good point.
oh no, we've been booped. Run for your lives
16:29
Ta
doing AoC example:
Odd that genpfault's message didn't get taken
Expected: 2511944
Actual: 2500470
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
I guess there's a bit of lag
@Adriaan congrats!
sniped
is being particularly nasty today it seems. :(
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17:57
@PaulStenne Beep.
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I feel like the criteria for the Just Jesting hat is not correct. I've posted more than 10 comments fitting that criteria.
maybe that's the joke :)
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Awwe snap.
19:35
@Nkosi You've linked to an answer. Are you really asking for the question to be deleted or the answer?
@Makyen opps. my bad. Yes the question.
Do I flag my comment and re-request the delete
@Nkosi Sure. Go ahead and re-request.
@Makyen Thanks.
@Nkosi np.
Ron
Ron
I seem to have misplaced 28 reputation somewhere.
19:43
@Ron say it aint so....
Ron
Ron
I checked under the couch. Not there.
Ron
Ron
20:40
@Nkosi I found new 45.
Ron
Ron
20:57
Certainly strikes me as being too low.
crickets sounds
@rene Sorry to bother you, can we please graveyard this one?
@Ron 2.2K is fine if that job doesn't come with responsibilities ...
@FrankerZ "Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming." Is that the right close reason?
let's close that sh^t
Ron
Ron
@rene I see. Well, it comes with heavy refactoring, architecture and design requirement and what not.
People management, scrumming etc.
21:08
Sounds like a bargain for the employer ... but it might depend on how much east you stay in Europe.
Ron
Ron
I see. Appreciate it.
Blast, posted an answer instead of a comment.
21:27
@Ron till searching for a new job? Did you check out GULP and other portals for salaries? Can't talk about ither countries, but team-lead should start at much more than more than thrice that salary here (gross of course)
Ron
Ron
@Olaf I've pretty much closed doors on all domestic offers. Some of them were more than generous. Looking to move abroad, a bit of a change of scenery.
@Olaf I will check that one out. Appreciate it. This country borders Austria and I also feel it was a bit on the low side when it comes to salary, but then again I was the one who mentioned the sum.
@Ron "a bit on the low side" - understatement? Afaik Austria has similar salaries like Germany.
Ron
Ron
@Olaf Agree. This one was Slovakia. Not sure if they have the 13th salary.
We will see how it turns out. I wouldn't really want to go back to Delphi, work permit or not, that ship has sailed for me.
21:52
@rene - Is there a particular reason this upvoted duplicate with a decent answer was deleted? stackoverflow.com/questions/47907342/… . Someone has registered a protest that this was deleted, and I'm leaning towards undeleting it.
@BradLarson Not a Java expert, so just my 5ct: The dupe seems to be indeed the same and its answer is also better padded by a standard quote and explanation. I don't see any use keeping the deleted question.
22:21
@BradLarson it was brought up here by @SotiriosDelimanolis and I looked at it and agreed that this dupe would not be much different then the canonical, nor would the answer. Unless I missed something I saw no problem deleting it.
I don't think we would loose value.
@AnttiHaapala I you want to look at that ^ delete vote as well, thanks.
@rene OK, I'll point the flagger here to use this discussion as a reference. I generally don't delete upvoted duplicates with decent answers, but I'm not going to override you on this one.
OK, I pinged the other delete voters as well. Thanks for bringing this here.
I'm out for the night ...
@Mogsdad deleted some already :d
(out of delves)
@AnttiHaapala How can you have dChristmas without delves?!
@Mogsdad just need dsanta
22:57
@Mogsdad Almost all 3-4CV questions should be closed now, a lot of 1-2, too. Plus quite some deleted (including some which may really hurt the asker/answerers)
@Olaf Why "hurt"?
naa the rep stays
^ ^ what that says.
@Mogsdad Some have far beyond >100 upvotes
@AnttiHaapala Huh? I thought the rep goes poof for deleted questions?
@Olaf Rep will not be lost. DOWNVOTES would affect rep (but even then, would be restored when question was deleted).
Depends on the age of the question.
23:00
@Mogsdad Hmm, too bad …
That question that was debated earlier, for example, was asked today - when closed, rep was lost permanently.
Well, there is no justice in the world. That's why we need se* & drugs (including alcohol) and rock'n roll.
23:17
@Mogsdad stackoverflow.com/questions/16534246/… this one is debatable. The answer is a single function of Python standard library.
@Mogsdad “Docstring processing tools” following PEP 257? is no longer asking for offsite resources :P
@AnttiHaapala Nice! Should probably remove the "documentation" tag while you're at it, to keep it out of the way.
@Mogsdad done
fixed title as well

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