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01:04
Hi all! o/
01:35
awww its a me
 
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05:36
@SmokeDetector looks like webmasters or something
06:02
Sorry for multiple stacks of CVs... I need to keep it not overflowing \0
06:15
Plop everyone with a mind and the one without
06:52
Morning \o
o/
Ron
Ron
Good morning all.
 
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08:17
hi o/
BDL
BDL
08:54
@TetsuyaYamamoto Isn't that a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/20423211/…
I don't see why this questions would require a MCVE?
09:14
@BDL I don't know another duplicate exist... I think that the Q has no example code, it lacks MCVE at first sight.
BDL
BDL
@TetsuyaYamamoto My point is that it needs no example code. For debugging questions, sure, a MCVE is required. But for a question like "How do I set the cursor position in a textbox"?
09:50
@Makyen: Just another improvement suggestion for the Unclosed Request reviewer, if you don't mind. As far as I have seen, links to posts that I have visited are turned from red into blue. As I said before, this is great. However, the OP names are still shown in red an this confuses me from time to time. Would it be possible to give the OP names also a different color?
And then we rename script to rainbow to the stars
@kayess Yes, for sure! Fits unicorn better anyway :) But using the same blue as for the post links would also be OK for me.
 
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11:15
^ Just curious: Is live24u.com a spam site? (I don't dare to visit it.)
meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357292/… probably some sort of targeted promotion/spam
@suraj Thanks!
user3956566
\o
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12:14
@Steve OP just added code. Make any difference?
The last message was posted 7 hours ago.
Wow, that's a long pause.
Not even smokey :P
Yeah. sighs
@NathanOliver Still a question of very low quality but at least he is trying. Just given an hint and if he is not too much lazy he could figure out.
12:58
^ (smokey) I think the question should be deleted
also, morning
\o
o/
@gunr2171 OT SU?
13:04
morning all
@NathanOliver oh right, you need to close before you can delete
as a <10k pleb, I forget how that system works often
@gunr2171 Here is a guide for you
13:05
@NathanOliver I'd give the benifit of the doubt that the person is """"programming""" and say "no mcve"
nope nope nope nope nope nope nope
I know what that is going to be before I open it
evil laugh :)
just to make it formal
"OhBeWise", that's a great username
13:12
Can someone check if I missed something here that I should have explained earlier
@rene it all started here
Yeah.
I have done what I can. me thinks
Me thinks so too.
@suraj I remembered that question, that is why I left that initial comment on their NAA
@rene Yeah, you missed something: They demand a solution to their problem...
13:23
Yes, I also demand a solution to world peace ....
@rene That's a huge one! You should share that project on GitHub...
Meh, I'll prefer small PR's ...
@rene well there is the hacktoberfest Would be good timing
@rene PR #1763 Removed C from all libraries (World Peace)
@Machavity that only leaves # for me then ...
13:30
@rene #worldpeace ?
lol
@suraj hmmm, don't know if that is within my skillset.
I mean, I know how to do a PR but not if any of my PR's would be of any good on the stuff Charcoal needs.
@suraj Is that coding while drinking beer?
Since Smokey was so kind to link the user profile... had to LOL at this: Ministry of Interior Punjab, Pakistan
@Machavity I've had indian management figures. No fun actually :P
and accepted? from 2012? just now?
13:38
@SotiriosDelimanolis Yeah, I found that fishy too
But that's above our pay grade
I NAAed the other junk answer as well
I don't think I've learned my lesson with commenting when I downvote :\
I can't help myself when someone whines that downvotes are for "no reason"
Backlash?
seems like it, timing is right
head to teh meta
Actually Shog9 said he's testing a new system to catch vote fraud and revenge downvotes. Rolled out in 6-8 weeks tho...
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13:44
bah, no need to go nuclear
unclear rather
The only solution I'll accept is force users to comment when they downvote :p
I mod flagged that answer for the fishy accept
@Machavity notice the user name is also content in the question
@SotiriosDelimanolis No thanks. I normally comment and what I get are a lot of negative feedback and discussion. Maybe that's tag-specific.
13:48
@SotiriosDelimanolis Wow. Good catch
14:06
Hmm is that question really opinion-based? "Should I (continue to) work with Eclipse". The answer must always be no, no matter the circumstances :)
@Lundin A dark, dark place. You only see the light when eclipse is finally over.
@AnttiHaapala Handy dupe for questions of the nature "I'm trying to store stuff in an unitinialized pointer": stackoverflow.com/questions/37549594/…
Ron
Ron
Hello world!
Though I guess that particular question should be closed as typo, as the code will work if they just declare a variable.
14:17
\o
Ron
Ron
Choo choo . "Oh Ron you wrecked the train".
Greetings comrades
Ron
Ron
\o
14:22
It says Eclipse! clicks delete
Ron
Ron
14:37
Chronic fatique, when it strikes you can't sum two numbers together.
Some days are good, some not so much.
Just do it! Tm.. this firealarm report.
15:00
@Lundin ah thanks, alas I had voted for mcve.
bookmarked :D
Ron
Ron
16:02
Last revision in this one is simply wrong.
Corrected.
Carry on.
And don't let the bedbugs bite.
bedbugs or bad bugs?
Ron
Ron
The latter.
16:34
@Compass I have some bad news for you:
> Cats are not allowed to walk across keyboards on Stack Exchange sites
Literally, an epic answer by the way...
It is. Got my vote.
Mine, too.
aww, my ultra mega dupe cv-pls is still unhandled :-(
it's an easy one
time for lunch
16:51
enjoy!
17:03
I don't walk across.
I roll.
Hey, can someone flag this for a mod or sth? stackoverflow.com/posts/46414178/revisions (I don't have any flags left for today as usual)
Actually dont mind it, the user just wanted to not give me the reputation for it ;-; That went on for 6 edits
@Compass You roll?
@LW001 yeah... last edit 50 mins ago - not anything to do there... if they add it back again though...
blep
That time it was actually the OP removing it so I have hope
17:22
fun fact for google-shorten urls, adding a "+" to the end will show you the analytics page for the url - a way of seeing where you're going to go to without going there
6
bakon
@gunr2171 look up ;)
and its gone
@JonClements we're having a discussion in the MATLAB room on why this was deleted with the spam-rev message. Did it trigger because of the deletion/undeletion by the OP and it then being deleted by others?
it's that time of day again
17:28
@Adriaan bah
could've run the script in the first place ;)
but the trash can needs food
@Adriaan err... one sec... on a mobile device at mo'... so slightly more awkward
@JonClements no worries, I'm not in a hurry
SO chat on a phone. You're living life on the edge
Oh, and @Compass is in trouble:
> Cats are not allowed to walk across keyboards on Stack Exchange sites; this already qualifies as abuse of our resources
17:31
@gunr2171 most likely chrome or safari actually. I dont think windows phone has edge
@Adriaan it had a rude/abusive flag on it that got marked helpful when it got deleted by the community
@NathanOliver clap
clap
clap...
stackoverflow.com/questions/46545620/… i love how this comment conversation is slowly spiraling down into childish insults
@JonClements right. That shouldn't have been marked helpful. Low quality which should've been deleted for sure, but not spam/rude
17:33
@LW001 yeah, that happens sometimes. Just flag and move on
(unless someone thinks homework dumps are an abuse of SO)
I don't walk, I roll across the keyboard.
Walking results in more typos.
@LW001 Tossed a CV and delete in there
you know i thought why there are so many comment flags possible earlier today
i have my answer
17:36
@Adriaan Ahh... and it comes up with the "contents hidden this post was marked as..." ?
@JonClements yes
(cos I always forget - that posts get shown as that as I don't see it)
which is why I was surprised. I guess someone already wrote a meta on it
I wouldn't worry about it - its only got a RA flag so that should preclude it from audits... and it's deleted anyway so... not a biggy really
@JonClements except the one having flagged RA should reread the rules
Thanks anyway Englishman, I'll get back to watching snooker now
17:54
Oh - am I missing the snooker? afk
@MartinJames European masters; Brecel - Thor (latter is from Malaysia, interestingly) is on on Eurosport 1
18:06
What is the correct thing to do on screenshots of code?
I sometimes edit it with an OCR engine or should I flag it in the future
if the screenshot contains all the necessary code for a MCVE, and you want to spend the effort to replace the image with text, go for it. If either is "no", then flag
"spend the effort", it's literally just opening a website with decent ocr and reading over it again, fixing some indenting
that is when you dont realize you've run out of open edits again
Alternatively, hiring a cat to roll oon over.
18:25
@rene Second one free on this one this week. It's weird, but delicious!
sees IPA, nope
@Adriaan puts it on the boodschappenlijst
@Adriaan Sounds like an Italian bike.
@MartinJames it tastes like an Italian bike :P
@rene good job. Have fun with it. I'm still amazed on it xD
@NathanOliver it doesn't taste like IPA at all! I was so flabbergasted when I tasted it. It's more like a very foamy, clear weizen imho, that smooth and creamy taste
and from a country of which I had not tasted beer before, so kudos there as well
@Adriaan Is it hoppy?
18:34
@NathanOliver the AH says so, I'd say no
hmm. I'm not a hops person so I stay away from IPA's.
Hop over ....
I'll just stick with my porters/stouts and weiss beir
@NathanOliver so I'd say this tastes like a Weizen
I'll have to see if they have it around here.
18:38
@rene every time we try to get the Frenchies over they either disappear or move abroad, far away from us :P
yeah ... it must be us ... I admit I'm pretty scary ....
love of god
@rene agreed. Until you make us food
I've seen this user being abusive quite a lot today
mod flag for incorrect deletion? stackoverflow.com/a/46534293/5292302
18:42
wasted like 8 comment flags on him
@LW001 who? Will?
@NathanOliver I'm too scared of will to edit the title
user4589
OK
@Adriaan bawk, bawk bawk ;)
@PetterFriberg Maybe. Is the Q on topic? If not we really don't need to bother
18:47
question or answer? stackoverflow.com/a/46534535/5292302 (hence does he ask help to edit answer or does he have a new question)?
@PetterFriberg looks like it might be an attempt at an answer
Poorly phrased answer imho
Thanks I will edit it then
@LW001 You'll have to be careful that you don't change the code such that the problem is eliminated. Potentially more important is that doing so encourages the OP to continue to make posts with images of code, which is bad for many reasons. Many of us consider images of code to be worth nothing with respect to fulfilling the requirement to have a MCVE. The OP should be encouraged to edit to put the code in the question as text, in code format.
Personally, I usually post a comment to that effect, vote-to-close as no MCVE (if a debugging question), and sometimes down-vote. I'll usually check back and work with the OP, if they are someone who is wiling to put out the effort to improve their question.
@honk Unfortunately, exactly that is difficult. JavaScript determining you've visited a page is actively prevented by browsers (security/privacy). Browsers keep a page version without any CSS :visited applied. JavaScript gets it's info from that version (i.e. JS can't determine the link's blue or other :visited style is applied). But, the gist of your desire: don't distract me with Qs I've looked at, is improved by an option not to show those you've clicked on (not visited, but close).
Darn browser security
19:11
@LW001 I'm not sure I'd call that a debugging question (i.e. no MCVE wouldn't apply). It might be called debugging, but to me it sounds more like the plugin is working as designed, not that the code is doing something which is contrary to what's intended. Just that the OP wants it to do something else. The question appears to be asking for us to modify the jQuery plugin to do what the OP wants. In other words, please do this consulting work for me, for free.
conclusion too broad and unclear fits well, specially since OP does not seem interested to improve his question
i should learn categorizing stuff here a bit faster
baah I'm the kind of person that exact reason is not really that important if question is bad enough, I go with what I hit first, to be able to review some more.
the fact often is that many reasons can fit question
@LW001 Just an FYI: That question is a bit old, and without new activity, to be posting a cv-pls(unless there was some activity which is not clear from the question page, e.g. a rejected edit, being referenced somewhere else, etc.). cv-pls should be used, mostly, for questions where the extra attention is beneficial to the community. For most older questions, just flag/vote-to-close.
I just avoid migration and off-site resource if not really clear, preferring unclear or too broad, where unclear is always perfect in vague questions and too broad if you have no idea of the state of programming knowledge of the user, hence "tell me exactly what I need to do, I don't know how to do anything",
19:25
@LW001 However, in this case, the question was at a score of 0, and had nothing else which disqualified it from the 30-day Roomba. Thus, a single down-vote (which has now been done, so don't just pile-on) would have caused the question to be deleted by the next weekly Roomba run, in 3 days. NOTE: Don't down-vote just to Roomba, but such questions are often independently down-vote worthy.
> Did you ask uncle google
Yikes, that's going to be an awkward family reunion
@TylerH At least he has a rich uncle he can mooch off of ;)
@EJoshuaS you better custom mod flag those
"Hi nephew, I see you are using Firefox. Would you like to switch to Chrome?!?!?!" "Uncle, I'm trying to talk to grandma..."
@PetterFriberg ?? a approve-pls/reject-pls?
@Makyen It's a he doesn't know what should happen so he would like a python person to take a look
waffle what Nathan said and I don't like that normal queue handle it, it has 1 reject and 1 approve
@NathanOliver @PetterFriberg, Ahh. OK. No problem. I just saw the message and was wondering what it was. The syntax didn't parse and I threw an exception :-).
@Makyen Thanks for the explanation! I had no idea that this is so difficult. I'm just a desktop application enthusiast ;)
19:57
no problem, I kind of like these edits seems like it can be an improvement but I actually have no knowledge so I can't review it, if I leave it to queue I know it will often be random :D
@Makyen If you use try main() { ... } catch (...){} it wont cause an issue ;)
+ finally {throw new NeedsABeerException()}
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@PetterFriberg Yeah, the suggested edit queue often has people act when they should be hitting "skip".
20:03
@Adriaan Luca did it! Thor confused his cue with his hammer ;)
@NathanOliver :-). The post is actually understandable. I was just switching back and forth between this page and code (working on a bug). I failed to fully switch my parsing context back to normal English. Looks like I need to execute that finally block :-)
@honk weird match, good thing he won though, in his backyard
@PetterFriberg @NathanOliver Should we have another (low usage) request tag? Something to the effect of ?
@Makyen Nah
@Adriaan Yeah, I'm sad that I missed it. Was AFK and when I saw your post and immediately switched on the TV, the match Selby/Zhao just started :|
20:10
@NathanOliver It seems like something which would be appropriate for other rooms (where people with such domain knowledge hang out), but having one (specific request tag) generally in here feels like it expands what we do significantly. I don't have a problem with one occasionally, but...
@Makyen Well, since we basically cover all moderation activities I don't mind people asking to review something they didn't know how to review. I just don't think we need a tag for that as it doesn't come up much.
maybe I just need to be more clear when dumping stuff
Is this off topic > general computer, or "no mcve"?
Wouldn't hurt. You could easily say: I was reviewing and saw [this](url). Can a [tag:tag-name] person check it out?
@NathanOliver I guess I just have visions of being flooded by all tag-specific edit reviews. I certainly don't have a problem with anyone asking about a moderation issue which they have questions about.
20:16
@Makyen If it becomes an issue we can talk about it in a room meeting. Right now it happens so infrequently I'm not worried.
!!/alive
@rene plz send teh coffee
U send the spam
@SotiriosDelimanolis That weird accept from this morning got nuked by a mod
20:28
@gunr2171 I'd probably go with general computer/Server Fault, perhaps DBA. It might be no mcve, but it's impossible to tell that without the code. I appears more an issue with the differences between the two different setups rather than bugs in the code the OP has written.
I BRING THE RAMEN
Yay, good work @Machavity
I have no clue what to do with this update in question, seems like the answer answered the original question, advise user to post a new question? stackoverflow.com/q/46550305/5292302 or maybe just advice him to leave comment under answer
20:43
@PetterFriberg I think the answer still applies. You can't do what the op wants. The accept still makes sense.
@rene I was more asking related to edit of OP, if that edit has sense or not, it seems to make confusion in question
i am putting my dog on the treadmill
he will experience the power that is automated exercise
@PetterFriberg not for me ....
Thanks, I will leave a comment
headbutts the moon chair
21:05
Need to sleep, cya! \o
21:18
@SmokeDetector properly attributed
 
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22:31
@Masoud There's a regular close reason missing. Did you mean too broad?
@user0042 I believe that was meant as a regular close reason
@JohnDvorak Is it one?
Yes. Check the CV dialog.
@JohnDvorak I see.

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