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12:10 AM
@Machavity Yeah. Did you see the latest? Alright then I will report you for closing a question which is legitimate and might help others with the same issue.
 
1:03 AM
@QPaysTaxes Hmm, isn't that auto-flagged/locked after some rollbacks?
@QPaysTaxes IO noticed that. Makes me wonder.
Btw: long time not seen.
@QPaysTaxes Tht's the idea, I suppose
I already thought you left. God to see you didn't.
@QPaysTaxes Ah, that explians. I was … absent … for some time in summer.
Oh, you were suspended, too?
:-)
@QPaysTaxes Ahh, cheapo paintball ;-P
I strongly doubt this is allowed in Germany.
@QPaysTaxes Seriously? I wasn't aware of that (well, I never verified). You don't need an allowance to own such a gun?
@QPaysTaxes Hmm, sure they play in their homecountry? I know there are Germans, too who shoot in other countries only (without careing about more details).
Like tank-driving (and shooting) in Russia
I'm fine with the virtual variant. Just noticed one of my most liked game is now available uncut at GoG
@QPaysTaxes AFAIK there are some differences by state, aren't they?
@QPaysTaxes Well, that's a good idea anyway with certain trigger-happy "officials"
Expecially in the Nevada area
@QPaysTaxes Well, I'm quite split in opinion about your folk's concept of owning firearms.
@QPaysTaxes In GErmany? I'd call the police, as no sane person here would dare to show a firearm in public, even if he was allowed (most people who have an al,owance are not allowed to transport the gun open or in public).
Oh, I'm prepared as long as VATS is available: gog.com/game/fallout_3_game_of_the_year_edition
@QPaysTaxes Quantity over quality … In post nuclear war age, inteligence will become a survival issue again. Currently it seems to be more of a penalty.
@QPaysTaxes Good to know, so I'll leavel my mininuke thrower at home on the next visit
Prefer stealth anyway
@QPaysTaxes Want some cherry bombs? chomp
@QPaysTaxes They also make for fine mines, IIRC.
@QPaysTaxes That makes clear you didn't play Fallout 3
@QPaysTaxes Interestingly, there is a strong reference to that game in The Walking Dead.
You know TWD?
The opening scene of S4E14 "The Grove" (the visual and the song). Actually it is not Fallout 3, but the intro of Fallout 1 or 2 (long time I saw them, though).
That's the Fallout 1 intro (ca. 20 years old, but still gives me shivers) youtube.com/watch?v=geLiEiAiQJA
 
user3956566
2:27 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier not at all. We're having a conversation. I am reluctant leaving such comments in the first place, as people can become upset.
 
user3956566
@Makyen stackoverflow.com/questions/31826648/… fair enough, retracted my cv
 
2:59 AM
@KenWhite That's kind of a good illustration of why "Is it possible to..." is a poorly worded question.
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 any chance I can get write privileges to the SO Close Vote Reviewers github?
 
@EJoshuaS Nice. I hadn't seen that; I'll definitely save that link for future use. Thanks.
 
@KenWhite Yeah, I use it periodically - it IS a poorly worded question at a minimum, plus it generally evaluates to either "yes or no?" or "gimme teh codez," neither of which is even remotely useful.
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS I notice you're using the idownvotebecau.se. they're good aren't they?
 
@YvetteColomb Yep - immensely helpful, especially "no attempt" and "no research."
 
user3956566
3:02 AM
@EJoshuaS I've found some success using them. People will ping me with feedback, some will work through and edit it. I haven't had a hostile come back that I can remember
 
I finally got 10k tools on Lit.SE (it's in Beta so you get them at 2K) - that's been interesting, I cast my first delete vote the other day.
 
user3956566
that's awesome, it's like entering a new world - well maybe not as exciting :D
 
user3956566
SO is the hardest site - in my experience - to get privileges on... so hard to get that rep and it's so high
 
Yeah, I'm at over 2K on Sci Fi SE with 16 questions and 13 answers, took me a LOT more SO questions. Seems like it's a lot easier to draw attention to content.
 
user3956566
3:20 AM
@EJoshuaS people are usually better at voting in small "active" communities - well there's less to vote on, so the posts get more votes.
 
@YvetteColomb done
I'm off to bed. sorry I haven't looked at the PRs yet. You can merge them in
 
user3956566
@gunr2171 ok thanks
 
user3956566
sleep well
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS lol
 
4:11 AM
^NATO
 
4:30 AM
Some thing fishy is on with this user - stackoverflow.com/users/8768652/test
Any idea why he is spamming Microsoft download links on answers
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Yeah, I was wondering the same thing, too, actually - I flagged a bunch of them as VLQ
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Should they be flagged for moderator intervention?
 
@EJoshuaS I raised a custom mod flag on one of the answers. The link is also meaningless without any description.
 
Probably no point in raising it twice, then
 
@EJoshuaS You already posted a request about this question, 25 hours ago.
 
@Makyen Apparently I'm losing it...
 
4:55 AM
Could some one reject this one stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/17613216. I misclicked Approve.
 
@YvetteColomb That's great! :)
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya its already approved
 
@SurajRao Yeah, I it rolled back
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Funny thing, I read it as "Yeah, I rolled it back"
 
@NisargShah Oops! I think I need more coffee!!
!!/coffee
 
5:07 AM
@AjayBrahmakshatriya brews coffee for @AjayBrahmakshatriya
 
!!/tea
 
@SurajRao brews a cup of green tea for @SurajRao
 
@SmokeDetector why green? :(
 
@SurajRao That's not a report.
 
What happens if two people ask for !!/tea or !!/coffee before it answers?
 
5:11 AM
@NisargShah SD responds to both
 
@NisargShah Maybe it gets confused and makes tea :-). Seriously, SD is listening/reporting to multiple chat rooms. If it wasn't designed to properly handle the receiving simultaneous requests, it would have broken reasonably quickly.
 
@Makyen haha I was wondering if something might trigger a race condition... note to self: Check its code tonight
 
 
2 hours later…
 
7:42 AM
@Zoe probably SuperUser is a better place for that.
 
a NAA answer there too
 
 
1 hour later…
Zoe
9:00 AM
@SardarUsama Android hardware problems are off-topic on SU. Don't vote to close Android questions because they belong on SU, because they are off-topic there. Android hardware issues, when not directly connected to a computer belong on Android SE, not SU
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If a RO could pin that message, that would be great. Try to avoid closing Android questions with the reason that they belong on SU, because they don't. Check the tour for validation on that
 
9:20 AM
^ GMTC
 
 
2 hours later…
11:32 AM
Morning
 
\o
 
12:22 PM
stackoverflow.com/questions/42812716/… from convert tag burninate. ends up with is there some library I could use to do it? offsite resource?
 
Is this answer still NAA after the edit?
 
@Machavity Yes. He says what it does, not how you can use it.
 
Can you reflag please?
 
Done
 
12:48 PM
@FireAlarm Is that OT SU?
 
1:01 PM
This is so true:
As a side note, it's always scary to see someone ask "How can I do this truly horrible thing?" and someone answers with "Just use this real-life event as an example." — Erik yesterday
 
Does it look like a spam?
 
yeah looks like it but related to answer
 
I feel the same thing though the user isn't posting other similar answer.
 
@Enzokie Q needs closure. Offsite Resource
 
yes tho^
 
1:04 PM
@Machavity good catch XD
 
@Enzokie I'm calling it spam. It doesn't really answer the question and the website is highly promotional
 
ok I see =]
 
1:49 PM
@FOX9000 nah that's a good one
 
2:19 PM
nice answer @TylerH
 
2:32 PM
I am spending my vacation day in the best place
The dmv
 
@rene which one
@gunr2171 Georgia changed the name to the DDS a couple years back, so confusing
 
Dumb dumb system?
 
Department of Driver Services
 
I like mine better
 
Me too
 
2:36 PM
I like neither of them
 
Ron
Ola.
 
o/
 
Died Due Starvation
 
Ron
2:54 PM
@NathanOliver Where is C++ in this one?
 
IDK. Ask them why they tagged it as C++?
 
Ron
I did and removed the comment. Will do it again.
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya IMO this question isn't a request for off-site resource. It's not asking us to find an off-site resource for them. It's asking how to do something within a specific (relatively common) API.
 
Ron
On the touchy feely subject of "freelancer" sites... I am under the impression it's one big waste of time. What do you think?
I am browsing projects and all I see is unclear noise.
9 to 5 forever!
 
3:09 PM
@SardarUsama IMO, this question doesn't qualify as a typo. Typos are usually something where the OP has made a simple mistake in typing, unintentionally transposed variable names, etc. This appears to be a conceptual issue (a lack of understanding), which is a problem other people may have in the future. It does appear to be a duplicate, so should be closed as such.
 
Ron
2 downvotes and OP's rudeness in the comments. How to deal with that one?
Self-answer: stick it up and move on.
 
user2371524
@Ron downvote, flag comment
 
Ron
@FelixPalmen That I did. Thanks.
If code is posted as image should that be enough to cv?
From a high-rep user that is.
Or get a 9 to 5 job and stop worrying. ;)
 
@Ron yeah any code as image is close worthy as No MCVE
if it's a 'why isn't my code working'
 
@Ron I cv such posts. See the close-reason: "… in the question itself". I don't think an image is.
 
Ron
3:21 PM
Appreciate the feedback.
 
@Ron also changes to the image don't show up in the history.
 
Ron
Ok.
 
3:38 PM
Hmm, is this question no MCVE? Offsite Resource?
 
3:50 PM
@Machavity Infrastructure administration?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier watch the language all those comments need to be flagged as abusive
pro tip don't use bad words and keep patience ;), moderators will validate offensive flag on the comments and in the end it's on your profile
 
To be honest, while the anger is evident from my reaction, I am not insulting them, nor particularly rude, I think. That being said, you are indeed right. Thanks.
 
waffle
 
I removed them, which I guess validated flags on my comments if flags there were.
 
4:01 PM
^
 
I left a more tame one, explaining my reasoning.
 
good guy
 
yeah leave tame ones and then move on better to argue with some OP
 
indeed
I'll try and keep that in mind next time I feel like that..
But how damn, this kinda got way more under my skin than I could have expected.
 
flag and move on
 
4:04 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier and you don't ping me :D
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Yeah also go mad sometimes and really need to take a few deep breath... specially also when they start to revenge vote you.
but being rude/harsh back just go against you in the end (you have more to loose)
 
yeah... I've been lucky with that to this day. touches wood. I have had very few revenge downvote, and the only remarkably serialized (lol) votes were reversed
 
push in some "Please" ,"something constructive" and don't use bad words that's the way to be home free.
 
4:22 PM
@Zoe It would certainly be wrong to try to migrate such Android questions to Super User. However, the "general computing" close reason is the one often used as "generally off-topic, doesn't belong here". My personal preference would be to use a custom close reason which directs the user to Android Enthusiasts, but using "general computing" isn't inherently bad, given the choices available in the CV-dialog. Frankly, the real issue is that the CV-dialog is inadequate for giving fine direction to OPs.
 
Zoe
I actually agree with you on that, there are too few options. Even though the question is off-topic here the close reason should help the asker find somewhere else to ask it or improve the question to make it on-topic. The general computing CV reason is still (IMO) wrong to use on Android/iOS/other off-topic things (on SU) because the directions left to the user can make him/her ask on SU instead and have it once again moved to a third site (SU migrates to Android enthusiasts for an instance).
It'd be easier to have close reasons for everything, but it would probably be too hard to implemen
 
Zoe
4:52 PM
Spam answer there
 
@FireAlarm I'm not sure whether to link THAT 'parsing HTML with regex' canonical..
 
5:15 PM
I hadn't noticed before, but someone is rolling up new accounts to spam this question (3 in 30 mins is impressive). Protected now, but I wonder if they'll continue
 
@Machavity did you flag for a moderator already?
 
@TylerH Nah. The three users have been nuked and it's protected
 
If it happens again it's probably a good idea so they can escalate to the dev team
 
Just really odd stuff. All 3 were spamming about bringing Glee back
 
I didn't know it went away
 
5:19 PM
@EJoshuaS I gave him the benefit of the doubt. If he'd done it a third time I would have voted for spam
 
I'm out of close votes already :(
 
@PetterFriberg What does the "ne" option do in the Natty thing?
 
5:54 PM
@Machavity it stand for Needs edit, basically we use for code only post that are not formatted, the idea is ok false positive, but no problem that you reported it since as it is it's unreadable we need to edited it
hmm edited after deletion, worth to mod flag or I just leave it Jon Clements if he pass by stackoverflow.com/a/46733158/5292302
 
I'd flag for undeletion. Does try to answer it now
 
meeh I think I prefer to ping Jon
@JonClements this previous naa post has been edited, I prefer to ping instead of custom flag since not sure that undeletion is worth it, you make the call stackoverflow.com/questions/44554353/…
 
6:11 PM
@PetterFriberg Please don't ping mods for mod stuff. Either mod flag or taker it to meta
 
@NathanOliver Yeah I know, but I was trying to consider what my friend Jon would prefeer
 
In this case though he is mod Jon, not friend Jon.
 
meeh, it's not that important ;), since he often is in chat and saw the original versione I just taught he would prefer to handle it, hence appreciate the ping
 
Mods aren't friends when it comes to mod stuff, is that what you're saying?
 
To me it was a heck what would Jon prefer?, a ping or a custom flag, but ok, yeah I brook a rule, sorry
 
6:17 PM
@PetterFriberg Jon prefers a flag
@JohnDvorak Basically.
 
... because if mods were our friends we would be under the risk of being shut down?
 
Nah if they were our friends (in that manner) then they wouldn't be good mods
and actually yeah we would probably have a higher risk of being shut down
a group that has an inordinate amount of sway or influence with moderators? yikes
 
Hi BTW o/
 
the only group that should have that kind of sway over mods is... well... SO employees
@user0042 hi
time for lunch
 
No, just mods are supposed to be impartial.
 
6:22 PM
@TylerH Or time for Lynch :P
 
ROs like us to be beyond reproach. If mods were just another person in the room and a question came up up about our integrity, it makes it a lot easier to say "They're not at our beck and call" if they defend us
 
@EJoshuaS lol. What lousy tag did you visit this morning?
 
6:37 PM
Compared to the 751MBs chrome is using right now, no, it's not that much. — NathanOliver 19 secs ago
 
Any mishaps due to Friday, 13th?
 
I haven't heard of any chainsaw massacres yet.
 
6:53 PM
@adiga , , and - all three have terrible questions. and don't disappoint, either.
 
@NathanOliver Only 751MB :-)? It's normally inconvenient to find the total RAM used by Chrome, given the large number of separate processes it uses. I just had to kill it for other reasons (a SW install that needed Chrome to not be running). After killing Chrome, I had 4GB more free physical memory (and reduced the commit charge by >12GB). Firefox is just as bad, if not worse. I intermittently have to kill/restart my main Firefox profile when it gets up to 8–10GB, as it starts to get quite sluggish.
 
@Makyen That was just the total from the process screen in task manager. It is probably more.
 
@NathanOliver to be fair it was not about being impartial or ping mods to do action, it was about notifying a user that has a stake in post (hey you did action here, look what has happened now), but message received, I will find another way to notified when I think it's correct to notify a user (and user is mod).
 
7:24 PM
@NathanOliver A friend of ours was, today, driving her truck round a roundabout with adverse camber when she felt the load shft and the traler back end unstick. There's no way back from that, and she just hung on to the wheel as the physics happened. Climbed out of sunroof, uninjured;) Nobody else involved:) Her boss wants a word ASAP :(
 
@MartinJames Bummer. Glad she is okay.
 
@NathanOliver Yeah. That r'bout' is a right bas****, and all the truckers know about it. One little kick/shift and you're over:(
 
Gah the reopen queue sucks when reviewing due to edits. The columns are too skinny; it's even skinnier than the suggested edit queue
 
7:53 PM
@MartinJames As buddhist I can only contribute that physics is pretty straight for the consistence of this illusion ;-P ... Glad she's OK. Her boss is a moron.
 
8:04 PM
@user0042 ' Her boss is a moron' is another thing all the truckers know about:)
 
@Makyen always wondering if we really should vote to migrate those.. is it good enough for General Computer?
I'm not sure what really happens when we vote to close as general computing...
 
@PetterFriberg Nah. I've found cross-site migration tends to make the other sites mad in most cases
 
but do they get a migration request... what happens in this case?
 
@PetterFriberg Maybe suggest to OP as a possibility, but they should check out the other site policy/rulez first? If they migrate, or copy/delete, their questions to another site and the site reacts badly - their members' ire is not directed at us.
 
now that it is closed as "General computing" try Super User, what happens?, do they get a migration request or is it just closed on SO?
 
8:15 PM
I think I would just go with 'Not here! Find a more suitable site, (yourself)'.
 
@PetterFriberg They have to click on the link, go to SU, register and repost
I find migration (in most cases) is a poor user experience. If you're not registered on the target site you get no notices, rep, etc
Meta is an obvious exception
 
but there is no automatic action as meta?, mods on SU do not get flags or stuff like that?
 
@Machavity Yeah, then it's 'Not my fault! Those idiots on SO sent me here!'. We should not do any migrations. We shoud not suggest any migration targets, just 'Not here, somewhere else'.
 
No, I do find suggestions actually do help those that read. I don't think we should stop doing those
I sometimes get positive feedback when using a custom closure reason telling them what site they can get help on
 
@Machavity The thing is, the OP has already failed to read the policy/rules on SO and posted their inappropriate question anyway. The chances of that OP behaving any better towards another suggested site are, well, 'low'.
 
8:21 PM
We have the reason in close dialog, but I'm wondering how much knowledge on on-topic on target site we need to have before suggesting it.
 
@MartinJames I agree. But I'd rather tell them too much info than just "Closed Too Broad, best of luck!"
@PetterFriberg Well, it does say "You may be able to help..."
 
8:47 PM
@PetterFriberg If you are familiar with the target site and know the question is on-topic for that site, then migrating to another site is reasonable. In general, as others have mentioned, I prefer to just close it and allow the OP to choose an appropriate site to post on. One of my auto-fill close reasons is basically "[off-topic here]. You may be able to get help on another Stack Exchange site. However, be sure to read each site's on-topic page prior to posting."
 
9:41 PM
o/
 
Question... should we flag users swearing at themselves?
 
depends where id say
If it's a "Oh my god I'm dumb" comment I'd flag it as chatty, if it's part of a question I'd edit it tbh
 
@LW001 It's the former
 
Chatty or otherwise unnecessary imho
It doesn't add to anything
 
10:13 PM
@PetterFriberg oh well. and it seems like this was all a misunderstanding
I should indeed have kept my cool, even if luckily it seems they did not see my rage outburst
 

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