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12:00 AM
I was not aware of that Sir
 
@Drew Indians calling you Sir is kinda belittlement, disrespect IMO. Its no way honest, but just going towards you according their reception and respect for your personality. Would you like to be called Massa by someone? That implies a lot of bad stuff towards your person. That's why I really deny it and don't like that behavior.
 
@AndrewL. the answers (9) or so were all pretty much like This or That . Short, nearly link-only. So off to do edits of titles. I think he needs some help knowing how to succeed here
 
Yeah...
@Drew He's gotten a good chunk of his/her rep from edits that were pretty minor or somewhat conflicting with author's intent.
Did you invite him/her?
 
@Drew Trying to bring it to a point: Its counterstrike racism.
 
CS:R, the new Counterstrike installment
 
12:12 AM
@AndrewL. Have you ever been in RSA?
 
No
Do you mean South Africa?
 
Nope. I've only been to one other country except for the US.
 
It was an awful experience that racism works in both directions :(
 
:(
 
12:14 AM
@Queen k
@AndrewL. Well, I was a tourist. I was trying to get in touch with people no matter what color of their skin. But how they handle you there as a white europeian male can give you a strange experience.
We need to be one, races are irrelevant. No matter whatsoever!
@AndrewL. Try with Hawaii :)
@Drew Nice you found that anyway. I almost forgot about it.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Hawaii was amazing when I went there
 
12:29 AM
@AndrewL. And all the natives appreciated you honestly? I didn't have the experience actually. I just could imagine something from some resources.
 
It was a loonnngg time ago but it was a pleasant experience
this, cv as network or general computing?
I will probably return there in the near future @πάνταῥεῖ
 
I just need to go to my nearest neighbor country Tyrol, and it makes a big difference if I'm going to speak Bavarian slang or Hochdeutsch. They'll consider you a peer or a complete idiot :)
@AndrewL. I'd love to go to Hawaii once honestly.
 
Also, that self-answer seems a bit, un-useful
Dang clipboard!
 
12:46 AM
@Rizier123 the rest of the world that use a Decent Browser™ doesn't have that problem
 
@Braiam And that would be?
 
@Rizier123 any *cough* firefox *cough* browser would
 
That slow fox you mean? :p
 
1:38 AM
ehhhh
Disputing that
 
Wut why? That user is unregistered and that post looks like spam to me.
 
It's disclosed, though, and seems like it could be an actual answer
I actually thought of making that exact thing a while back
 
2:41 AM
^ Why are they even using Java if they don't know you have to use types everywhere?
 
3:07 AM
^ that question has to go
 
3:19 AM
@Machavity ^ from that question
 
save the vote for the question !
 
@Drew thanks for the ping last night, I answered the question
 
ah cool. afk for a bi
bit
 
3:44 AM
lol
 
 
1 hour later…
4:47 AM
TylerH has started reviewing!
 
4:58 AM
has no shebang line good enuf for me
 
5:36 AM
TylerH passed a audit!
 
@xenteros really? I think that's a reasonable question about kernel module interface design
 
I have implemented it, and it's working fine.
But I am not sure if it is acceptable in the kernel community.
@tripleee "Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise."
 
@xenteros the one answer it got is very much based on facts
 
meh, just change the question into "can I" and it's a pretty good question
and answer
 
5:56 AM
Why would that device driver question have a General Computing close vote on it?
Last time I checked, my grandma knows nothing about device drivers
 
it wasn't me but general computing reason doesn't necessitate a simple problem
 
Morning
Apparently there was another rep recalc
 
another?
 
Yesterday (I still had browser tabs at home open that verified this) I was at 4850 rep and now I'm at 5050 rep, so 200 rep appeared from thin air with no history to account for it
 
it must have missed me as well
 
6:16 AM
^ 3 close votes already, yet actively edited and discussed
 
@tripleee answer on that is NAA (OP adding more info)
 
@Adriaan yeah, that too
 
@tripleee weird actually; he edited his question 22 hours ago, added more info as an answer 1 hour ago
 
Is this spam?
 
@Magisch should we move that to the old-LO answers chatroom? Seems utter LO poo to me
 
6:19 AM
I can't find any obvious connections between poster and the certification company he recommends?
@Adriaan It got a new answer I happened across in first posts
 
@Magisch I saw. Flagged the german-links post anyhow and left a comment on that
 
Wait a second
The Link only part is just copied from the top answer
and then recommending an unrelated certification company
 
@Magisch weird, someone already commented on the day the question was posted that it's off-topic
 
Thats definitely spam
 
@Magisch good find. Do you leave a comment or should i?
 
6:22 AM
I say we just nuke it
 
@Magisch left a comment anyways due to the dubious nature of it. Btb: OP hasn't got any activity, apart from this answer, but has their account for 1y9months?
 
@Adriaan - He has another answer deleted 17 hours ago as spam
 
@TheLostMind ah, I couldn't see that obviously. Weird though that he kept his account in storage for almost 2 years before starting to post VLQs
 
interesting it was deleted via vote. So no IP block :)
 
Mhm
@TheLostMind Do you guys destroy known spammer accounts?
 
6:34 AM
@Magisch - Usually yes.. 1 rep skin care accounts created today with only one post --> NUKED
 
What about this one? He's had 2 years to do something, and both instances where he did anything it was spam.
 
haven't looked into it thoroughly (kinda busy). Will check it later
 
@PatrickHofman there's a format for that, and you need to provide a reason
 
@Magisch Sorry to have missed that. Any pointer to read? I have read the FAQ but I don't read anything on a format.
 
6:39 AM
@PatrickHofman There is a userscript that allows it automatically
 
[tag:cv-pls] reason link
 
@Magisch And without userscripts?
 
which FAQ did you read? socvr.org/faq has it already in #2 (though only vaguely; the proper explanation is further down -- search for "How and why do I need to format my cv-pls?")
 
@PatrickHofman [tag:cv-pls] $reason - $linktoquestion
 
oh, there's an anchor you can link to socvr.org/faq#how-and-why-do-i-need-to-format-my-cv-pls
 
6:42 AM
@tripleee Ah, there it is. I stopped reading after 'room owners' :)
Thanks for your guidance people.
 
the one you linked to is closed already anyway
and with that amount of downvotes, and with no upvoted answer, it will be roomba'd
 
@tripleee Last CV came in just now. And it will be roomba'd indeed.
Small note on the FAQ: It says "we have the support of four bots ", there are 5 :)
Maybe someone can correct that.
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
7:01 AM
Huh. So apparently the "Gain 200 reputation 50 times" Badge is a thing on meta
I thought meta didnt have reputation
 
Morning all
 
Aloha
 
@Magisch It doesn't, but still it counts votes as you would have had reputation. So mortarboard etc. are possible to gain on meta.
 
Question on meta only goes to hot tab if it has enough positive scores correct?
hence basically the meta crowd can decide what the non meta crowd will see, I wonder if this is good in general for SO, maybe another system should be implemented
 
Aloha Petter
 
7:13 AM
@PetterFriberg You could raise that on meta :D
 
0/
 
@Magisch Yeah was thinking about it, maybe tonight if I have time, I actually think it has somewhat of negative effect of the overall votes that indicates if community agree or not.
probably a better system would be question with votes on it, either lots of dv or or lots of up votes also considering number of answers and votes on answer.
 
7:28 AM
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
@PetterFriberg I actually had the same idea
But that will be shot down
 
Guys, please CV the question I just linked... It's already gotten a low quality answer...
 
One more needed
 
7:44 AM
@Cerbrus ideone.com/XCBHHd I wrote a little c program to compute the max number of helpful flags one can raise starting from 0 in n days
@Cerbrus closed
 
@Magisch JS Plz
 
why tho
C > all
 
C is an uglyass language we learned to get too accustomed to.
 
Its the universal basic
Everyone knows at least a little c
 
pob? stackoverflow.com/q/39325220/4723795 question without a problem just a wonder if what he did is cute
 
7:49 AM
no onebox pls
 
@Magisch: JS version
 
@Tunaki if it goes hot maybe it will be reversed...
 
@MadaraUchiha Heya! o/
 
@Cerbrus That doesn't look significantly cleaner but maybe @MadaraUchiha will like it better :D
 
@Magisch Because I didn't try to.
 
7:53 AM
@xenteros this looks better for Super User
 
@Cerbrus I'm sure my program can easily be reduced by like a ton and made cleaner
I didn't try much either, I just wanted to bypass having to clip numbers into the calculator by hand
 
@Tunaki I failed a review audit for marking it primary-oppinion-based. In my opinion it's unfair.
 
@xenteros we talked about it before, opinions are divided -- I for one did not vote to close, and upvoted the answer
@TylerH ^ up here
 
@xenteros what do you mean? This question was served as a "good" audit?
First Posts?
 
It was served as a Looks OK question.
Traige
 
7:56 AM
if you want to revive that discussion, at least link back so new people can see what was already covered
 
tough luck, I don't think that's a good audit
 
@tripleee I'm quite new on chat. Would you please explain me what do you mean by saying at least link back? Shall I give the audit url?
 
for the broader topic of "audits suck", I think that's the consensus here, yeah
like I linked to Tyler's remark in the previous discussion a few minutes ago
there's an arrow you can click on when you hover on a message which links yours as a reply to it
in the composition box, it looks like :12355667 where the number is some sort of internal ID
 
I see.
 
since I already linked to the previous discussion, no need for you to do that now, but as a broader netiquette guideline, if you want to bring up something we talked about before, please at least mention that you are rehashing it
 
8:00 AM
@xenteros the question was given as a Looks OK question in Triage queue. Imo it's a primary opinion based and at the moment it is locked.
 
@Tunaki Closed. Could use some delete votes.
 
Oh look, it has 2.
 
@xenteros and is there something you want to discuss about it still? the question, or the fact that it was served for an audit? for the latter case, that's a massive FAQ - audits are frequently contested on meta, but usually not much more comes from that
 
@Magisch Doesn't get much cleaner than this.
Oh, should've removed the \n in the prompt...
 
8:17 AM
Hiya
 
@Cerbrus I cleaned mine up a little further too
 
@Magisch something something reduce
 
@MadaraUchiha I know my coding style is horrible but in my defense I'm only a second year apprentice
 
The Kyll coding style is debatable yeah.
 
could someone just give me the link to Shog's post that posts like 'aabahjdfuvh' are abusive? I couldn't find it
 
8:26 AM
@Tunaki My c program here was not in kyll coding style
 
@AshishAhujaツ This post is better meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310177/…
 
thanks. That was the post I was looking for
oh.. the answer is by Undo. I thought it was by Shog
 
@AshishAhujaツ this is the discussion Shog9 made in SOCVR chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/41570/conversation/…
 
@PetterFriberg even I didn't know about that discussion. Will read it
 
@AshishAhujaツ this is an answer from shog on similar issue meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234032/…
 
8:29 AM
k
 
8:47 AM
@Queen k
 
Hey @rene
Feeling flowery today?
 
@Magisch I guess so
@πάνταῥεῖ can you politely explain here why you dupe hammered that question?
 
@rene Your profile picture is a neverending source from which I draw horrible german-tier puns
:D
@rene I was thinking less outright spam and more gross misuse of the ask question feature
I left a comment
 
nah that's spam for me
 
8:53 AM
m2, flagged as spam...
 
Looked like a company with a genuine job posting that wanted to save a couple bucks that it costs to post on SO careers
 
@Magisch recruiters should use Jobs.
 
well yeah
 
But maybe we should have said that. Because that brings money in the pocket for SE to keep this wonderful website running...
 
and let's not have to also close and delete vote "job ads"
the other one however... maybe more vlq... but ok...
 
9:02 AM
@rene Magisch left a comment to that effect, no? stackoverflow.com/questions/39611754#comment66530818_39611754 (10k+ only)
^ clipboard error fixed, sorry! /-:
 
@rene The meta or the original one?
 
9:15 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm thinking the meta would require an answer, with maybe a pointer from the main question? the other way around would just litter the main site
 
@tripleee The meta question was deleted now
 
@πάνταῥεῖ oh ouch
 
@tripleee Right when I was about to write a polite comment
 
9:29 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ nvm, but I meant the meta one but if you can salvage the other one based on the comment from Stijn you would be helpful.
@tripleee ah, missed that. sorry @Magisch
 
@rene I prefer not to heaten up more there. Triplee and Stjin already said what's necessary to improve the question.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ OK
 
9:50 AM
hmm its also a dup of his older question.... I have added link in comments
I like "Send me"
 
haha
I'll send you here instead: How to AskTim Castelijns 1 min ago
2
 
10:15 AM
 
10:35 AM
okay send small example — Prabhu 7 mins ago
lol
 
lol
 
11:03 AM
 
Which flag is appropriate for this kind of question? I find it too broad, or there is a much better flag reason.
 
custom off-topic > not snapchat support
 
@Tunaki meh, madara said TB as well
 
@Tunaki It's not a snapchat question
snapchat is given as an example to an application where you register by email, but they have your contacts
He wants to know how to do the same
 
custom off-topic -> not a software writing service
 
11:13 AM
oh
 
@xenteros we are writing software and that can be seen as a service
 
@xenteros Not a good idea. If a question is too broad close it as such.
 
"Could you guide me the way to do it?"
 
11:31 AM
Morning
 
o/
 
Good day NO
 
^ rude comment as well
 
@NathanOliver the comment was reported by heat detector in SOCVFinder.
anyway deleted now..
 
OK. Gone now.
 
11:59 AM
 
Horrible edit.
Removes capitalization, messes up a error message, adds a "thanks".
 
@Cerbrus thanks in advantage
 
12:17 PM
I found an answer with +776 score. The information in the answer isn't exactly incorrect, but it's not super clear, missing some info, could be phrased better, etc. It is about a topic I know a lot about. I can and want to improve it, but the edit would probably be a complete rework and be considered "too drastic"/"conflicts with authors intent" etc. What do I do?
 
something in the middle?, a smaller edit, a new answer..
a comment to OP about what you think is missing..
 
new answer will get lost in the heap
small edit would have almost no impact
 
@TimCastelijns uh, you got edit rights, why don't you just give it a go, if the OP doesn't respond?
 
^ that
 
There are about 100 things I want to change, sounds cumbersome to discuss with the author first
Or should I just ask Do you mind if I rewrite your answer ?
 
12:24 PM
@rene This looks like something you might know.
 
@TimCastelijns that woud be my call, do you mind to give your answer a rewrite so it becomes even better ....
 
@TimCastelijns That is what I would do. Ask them if you can edit it, if they say yes, edit it and let them decide if they like it or not.
 
and if he says no I let the answer be in the meh state it is in right now?
 
@TimCastelijns If he says no then yes, leave it be. I guess the only other thing would be to ask a mod to make it a CM and then you are free to edit.
 
ok thanks
 
12:27 PM
it was second answer of user today with that link (previous was spam nuked)
 
@NathanOliver yes, but @xenteros decided to delete their post so, no point in finishing that answer
 
Oh. Bummer. Sorry.
 
Oh there are two #3.
 
rookie mistake, no probs
 
@Tunaki First and last gone, others need moar del-votes
 
12:46 PM
Should that SD Q be closed for SU?
 
@NathanOliver Probably
Too old to migrate, though
 
Known spam that viborg-it thingy?. Couldn't find evidence @Magisch, @NathanOliver
 
@rene I have just undeleted the message as the comment which was about to say it's obvious occured to be wrong. @rene I'd like to hear what you know!
 
@AshishAhujaツ The edit on there should be rejected, by the way
 
12:49 PM
@TheLostMind The link has no business being there and it is a new, 1 rep user. Chose spa,
 
@Cerbrus yeah; rejected it.
 
@Tunaki hmm the 5, are there any similar dupes?m the link is to community site, still working
 
@NathanOliver - Yes. New user, first answer.. Can't open link now.. was wondering what it is
 
@TheLostMind Link to a german IT service.
 
@PetterFriberg hmm?
 
12:50 PM
@NathanOliver - Cool thanks
 
No problem.
 
@xenteros I don't think stijn's comment was meant to signal that, it was the start of an answer. I was more looking to guide you to the tables around reviewtasks. Combined with posthistory and post you can get all kind of statistical analysis.
 
@TheLostMind website was used at least twice now
 
@Tunaki meeh can't see how the internet get better.. it's off-topic sure, but needs delete?
 
1 rep user, random company in new delhi (sorry), no prior recommendations of it.
 
12:51 PM
No prior mentions as well
 
@rene Am I able to get a URL to the ongoing review?
 
@xenteros nope, but I'm writing an answer, you don't dare to delete that question again. ;)
 
#2 isn't closed nor downvoted enough
 
ups
what happened in 2....
 
@rene I'm really sorry :)
 
12:55 PM
@Tunaki #6 is ready to vote
 
@xenteros He will flower you otherwise
 
1:12 PM
Quesjun
Anyone knows how Java's ArrayList is internally implemented?
Plop! =D
 
@Kyll like its abstract class thing?
 
@FirstStep What it looks like in memory, rather
@PetterFriberg =D
 
It looks like 0 and 1. "Out" "Not my level"
 
1:14 PM
@Kyll The docs have Resizable-array implementation so it should just hold a pointer to a chunk of contiguous memory.
 
@Kyll What do you mean?
 
@Tunaki Chained list, growing array, ..?
 
It's basically a wrapper around an array.
 
1:15 PM
array with extra functions is arraylist
 
>
 
@Kyll Growing array. Once you exceede the size a new, bigger array is created, the elements are copied over to it, the old one is released.
 
@PetterFriberg Absolutely
 
1:17 PM
The array can have a larger size than strictly necessary
It grows by multiplying its size by 1.5 each time.
 
*2
wait wasnt that 2 instead of 1.5?
 
that is old code
 
@ColdFire It could be either. It just needs to be amortized constant(at least in C++).
 
meeh more or less, is open jdk 1.6 what I use :D, you can't get last sun code
 
1:18 PM
:)
In java 8, it's int newCapacity = oldCapacity + (oldCapacity >> 1);
 
@Tunaki Right, thanks =D
 
@Tunaki aaaah nice
 
@Tunaki Why >> 1 instead of / 2, apart from style?
Those are integers anyway so I don't see some kinda weird casting risk
 
not sure, probably performance but with the JIT I don't think it matters
 
@Kyll nope but i guess avoiding rounding off
9*3/2 = 27/2 = 13.5 = 13
 
1:21 PM
@ColdFire that's flooring, not rounding
 
integers truncate, they do not round
 
^
that is what i meant NO
@Adriaan i know that -_-
 
@Kyll second time now, I misclick reopen instead of delete =/
and I'm out of delete votes anyway
 
@NathanOliver ah thanks, didn't know that. I rarely use integers. MATLAB makes everything double by default
 
Integers FTW
 
1:24 PM
sure, for some things. I mainly work with scientific data though (non-image data that is) so I need doubles
for images I'd use uint16, and for counters, indices etc integers are fine of course
 
I was watching a talk about precision and if you use a 64 bit floating point type you can start getting time drift right from the start trying to represent time in milliseconds. If you switched to a 64 bit integer you have no variance what so ever counting milliseconds for 530,000+ years.
 
but your program will crash in hundred thousands of years, that's unacceptable!
 
Think of the alien that might want to use it!!
 
lol
 
1:26 PM
It will still work then. It can only model a simulation for that long.
 
lol Nathan put an if (if alien use 128 bit integer)
 
@Tuna Default parameters in Java. A thing? Say void add(int a, int b = 1)
 
nope till java 7
8 i am not aware :(
 
really never seen that, but I stopped at 6
 
@Kyll Trying to find all the missing feature in JS lite?
 
1:28 PM
also yeah useful add function there, not returning
@NathanOliver Trying not to die inside during algorithms class really
 
@Kyll doesn't exist
 
@Tunaki K, ty
 
:)
 
If I can grab some Python and Java knowledge during class, might as well
 
1:29 PM
but you could do add(int a){add(a,1};}
 
@Kyll ^--- what Petter said make an overload
 
hence no need ; )
 
well teach us some python also @Kyll
 
@Tunaki Ninja'ed, but good idea
 
:(
 
1:30 PM
:)
 
Hi all, not sure if this is the place for this question but I think I found a plagiarised answer: http://stackoverflow.com/a/39617808/2233391

Seems to be an exact copy of: http://stackoverflow.com/a/21904821/2233391 minus 80%...
Nothing in the question would lead me to expect them to coincidentally use the same number of 'a' characters in the div...
 
@Henders It uses overflow-wrap: break-word; instead of word-wrap:break-word;
 
^ agree, same example but other method
 
Does look a little fishy though.
 
Oh right, sorry.
I just thought it's weird to copy the code and change a tiny bit to call it an answer
 
1:36 PM
No problem. Part of the reason we are here.
Yeah I would not call it a good answer but I would not call it plagiarism either.
 
Thanks for the help folks =D
 
Cheers :)
 
Cin cin
@Kyll are you having fun with java?
 
weeeird
 
1:49 PM
@PetterFriberg Should I really answer this?
 
aaah you are.... you little spea....
 
@PetterFriberg Depends if he understood how to insert the Java.squirrel.spear.opera.closevote.blurry.flower library
 
@Kyll I will tell you what I'm doing, if you tell me (trust me mine is worse)
 
@PetterFriberg Insert an item at the end of a chained list in a recursive way in Python or pseudo-code
 
@Kyll asp classic : ) vbscript.... Request.QueryString("whatAmIDoing")
 

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