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4:18 AM
^ screenshot of code
 
Hallelujah! The JS bronze tag badge!
 
Congratulations
Get the gold soon
 
Thanks :)
I wish lol
 
I am waiting at 98 for a regex tag bronze from 6-7 months :D
 
Lol :)
I thought Java was going to be my top tag
Hammer'd!
Argh! Someone upvoted a typo question. Makes it so much harder to delete
 
4:25 AM
@AndrewL. I started answering [java] and [c], even though [python] was my fav. Now started answering [r].
 
link?
 
someone should hack the motors in Roomba to give off much more suction.
 
well i dragged the chocolate to my delete folder
 
Lol
Who keeps voting them up?
+2/-3
+3/-3
 
4:28 AM
@AndrewL. Those below 125 rep and need to get badges.
 
poof he deleted
what BR said. We all answered crap
Madara had a funny quote in the transcript. Something like "I answered a lot of junk in my day"
 
Answering crap == Getting crap
 
Yeah, I'm happy that there aren't 100k, 200k reppers answering those
 
Yeah. I wish someone like Martjin could nuke em
 
let the little guy get a little without torturing them
 
user4639281
4:31 AM
I wish we could just close a question and move on
 
but... fun is allowed here
 
When was that allowed?
 
user4639281
I wish there wasn't an inherent need to bash posts into the ground as hard as possible until there is nothing left
 
I didn't engage in that bashing
 
user4639281
I did not imply that you did
 
4:32 AM
@TinyGiant start with firefox -ProfileManager, create a new profile, delete it when you're done
 
user4639281
@tripleee Much solution, many thanks
 
depending on version, you might need to supply a bogus -u tinygiant option, too
of course, this leaves something in your command history somewhere
 
@TinyGiant sorry, but I feel like if you answer something below-par such as a typo you should expect to get below-par score on your answer :/
 
user4639281
I'm not too worried about that.
 
why don't you just start a new private window, though?
 
user4639281
4:34 AM
@AndrewL. That's fine. I just don't think such a problem that amounted to something so small needs so much time and effort expended on it.
 
user4639281
It is a typo question. Close vote it, downvote posts as necessary, move on.
 
user4639281
@tripleee Yeah could do that. I am trying to give edge a try though. Have been hating on IE for... ever, thought I would at least give this version a chance
 
Ok. Gotcha
 
user4639281
26 messages in chat about two characters on question.
 
and you've counted them all
 
user4639281
4:37 AM
And I spent the time to count them all, what a waste of effort
 
don't forget what Shog said hours ago about Fun
 
user4639281
I'm allowed to state my opinion.
 
Wait—integer types are immutable?
 
user4639281
4:56 AM
Netscape still exists?
 
idk Trip maybe that is useful
 
@TinyGiant netscape.com seems to redirect to aol.com ... oooohh, the eyesore
 
user4639281
@tripleee netscape 7 is apparently netscape interface with Mozilla rendering engine. it's all owned by aol
 
made me look at geocities.com just to check whether it's still the same ... it has improved, a little (so has AOL, actually)
 
user4639281
msn explorer is still actively being developed...
 
user4639281
5:05 AM
website is much 90's
 
5:15 AM
 
Ideally, this would count as abuse, but I don't really trust the mods with that.
 
@BhargavRao so what do we do? downvote, flag, something else?
 
@BhargavRao Thanks for the laugh
Spammers try too hard
 
@tripleee Point fingers and Hurl Fists at an imaginary Shog for not giving us the "troll" flag. :)
 
5:22 AM
Wouldn't it be more efficient to ask the actual Shog?
 
Yeah, That'd be better.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao That's just... that's... rofl
 
Plop!
 
Plop!
 
5:41 AM
Plop!!!
too broad Is there a java file present for new keyword also?
 
wat?
 
UGH
My clipboard...
 
6:08 AM
Morning
Hey @BrockAdams, what is that userscript you're using that shows the flags in such a fanciful table?
 
6:20 AM
Hiya
 
The question is not asking where to buy stickers, unreg user
 
Mornin'
 
Mornin \o
 
Mornin' \o
 
6:36 AM
@TinyGiant: Not sure if this was meant to be a joke or not, but I'd appreciate if if you'd remove that. Saying "you're wrong" isn't very constructive.
 
Well there is that comment on downvotes people use respectfully: "I am downvoting and the reason is: link" /// where that link is to that meta about Reasons for Downvoting. Whatever that link is. rene uses it now and then. imo it helps the op
Jan 5 at 21:39, by Drew
@rene one like this from you: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34438944/mvc-5-errors-within-layout-page#comm‌​ent56664586_34438944
 
7:01 AM
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
7:08 AM
smokey broke the chain
 
is this a tool rec read the bottom part of "I wanna" stackoverflow.com/q/39567137
 
@Drew No I think it could use a good edit.
 
the i wanna use something like fullcalendar.js ?
 
I VTC it as a tool req
too broad would also work
 
like, here recommend a widget for me
 
7:20 AM
Morning everyone o/
 
Hey Seth
 
How are we doing today? :)
Holy, did they recalc the rep-count from docs? o.o
 
Yeah
I lost around 4 rep
 
haha
 
I had one +5, It became +1. That's all.
 
7:24 AM
o.o
 
So this guy managed to convince SE staff once to "merge" his account with another member's account, and used that to get out of a Q ban and ask more questions. The other member then notices and has SE staff reverse it. Now he's complaining SE staff won't give him back access to that other member's account?
O_O
 
@Tunaki a dh stretch for you but stackoverflow.com/q/39567499
 
@Drew what's the image?
 
@Magisch Ô_Ô
 
a bunch of funny green droid people
2
 
7:28 AM
Then hammered
 
Has anyone an idea why my question landed in the first posts review queue? stackoverflow.com/review/first-posts/13712373 … I mean … by which criterions do posts get put there? o_O
 
@bwoebi because it got put in there as an audit...
 
@JonClements oh, lol
I'm blind.
All fine #fail
 
Here - have a mug of coffee :)
 
Don't drink coffee, but thanks :-)
 
7:35 AM
@bwoebi O_O ....
 
@Magisch: I usually put screenshots in a quote block. Makes it easier to distinguish them from the rest of the answer ;-)
 
@Seth Is every serious programmer supposed to? :-P
 
@bwoebi Coffee is love!!! :o
 
If love has dubious taste, it's better to get out :-)
 
@Magisch: Now the votes image looks ugly xD
j/k though, thanks ^_^
 
7:38 AM
!!/coffee
 
grml
 
@ColdFire brews coffee for @ColdFire
 
!!/coffee
 
@Seth brews coffee for @Seth
 
Morning ninja
 
7:44 AM
@bwoebi That's fine - all the more for me! \o/
 
@JonClements I … could take the coffee and pour it into the sink…
[But obviously I won't :-) … enjoy your coffee!]
 
/me changes name to The Sink...
 
@JonClements heheh
 
hehe
@JonClements beware people might dump trash into it too
 
They already do
 
7:49 AM
Is that a problem? Puppies eat everything anyway...
 
8:11 AM
grml
Apparently my employer thinks I'm now a developer to be contracted out
Supposed to meet a client in a city 6 hours away (one way) next monday, travel time is not compensated so I'm essentially going to go out at 2am and come back at 12pm and get -2 hrs for the day
>_>
 
Sounds... fun?
 
@Magisch so you have to pay your employer to do work for them? :p Sounds fair!
 
I'm already getting maybe a third of minimum wage, getting -2hrs for a day where I'll get at best 4 hours of sleep and have to be on the road near all day is just insult to injury
>_>
No doubt they'll be charging at least 50 times of what they're paying me, and the expectations will probably match.
 
@Magisch Would you look at the time!
It's time to find better employment options :P
 
@MadaraUchiha I'm an apprentice. I'm stuck here for at least another 2 years
 
8:19 AM
Or ask you to threaten to throw meteors at the employer? :p
 
@Magisch No you're not
Unless you're an apprentice in jail.
 
@MadaraUchiha If I don't want to lose the chance to get my apprenticeship degree, yes I am.
 
@Magisch What's an "apprenticeship degree"?
You slave yourself for a few years and get a degree for "free"
Am I close?
 
Changing employers during apprenticeship is not permitted
@MadaraUchiha You work for 3 years and attend school on the side to earn the right to sit a large but ultimately simple exam and get a degree at the end
Also known as near the only way besides an university degree to reliably exceed minimum wage
 
@Magisch For a developer?
Where do you live that devs get minimum wage? :/
 
8:21 AM
Hope the degree is worth it - sounds like a bum deal for you and a great one for employers...
 
developer w/o degree is minimum wage roughly
with apprentice degree you can expect to start at about 11eur/hr
 
11eur an hour still sounds remarkably poor to me
 
especially for a tech expert
 
for a single person its only just below the poverty line
 
8:23 AM
Move to a different country!?
 
But w/e, atm I'm getting like 340 eur a month after taxes
 
A bit west of you Magisch, there's a great country :)
 
Because for some reason, apprentices are exempt from minimum wage laws
 
Because cheap labor
But isn't it the case that experience trumps degree where you live?
 
8:24 AM
No
Unless you're working for a small firm with a non-greedy owner
 
People generally see my Stack Overflow and GitHub profiles and never dare mention that I don't have a degree.
 
devs in germany compete with the cheapest indian firm they can find for the job
Yeah you have a track record of achievment I have some inconsequential answers to embarassingly easy questions
I wouldn't even list this on my CV atm
 
@Magisch And what, you think that I was born with this track record of achievement?
Get to it! I recall offering you bounties more than once
Take me up on that :P
 
That would require for me to be actually good at anything yet
 
@MadaraUchiha Well... I get away with the "I've been doing this stuff for over 20 years..." approach... most employers really don't value quite so much degrees here - they'd rather experience...
 
8:27 AM
@Magisch When I got to Stack Overflow, 5 years ago
I was a kid that scripted a lot with mIRC, and did a tiny bit of PHP
 
I just find it hard to believe that this is the state of affairs in a well developed nation like Germany @Magisch
 
It's Stack Overflow that made me an expert, not the other way around
 
@TheLostMind I'm very puzzled by that - Germany afaik has some large tech centres and pays well normally...
 
Tbh I could have a masters in computer science and still would probably not break 20 eur/hr
I know a bunch of people who have bachelors in computer science and are working in software dev for 9 eur/hr here
 
@JonClements - Exactly. That is what you would expect . But I spoke to another person in berlin and he says that he hardly has any money left at the end of the month. He is a dev with 6+ exp
 
8:30 AM
I have 140 bucks a month for anything-but-rent atm
 
@JonClements We gotta ask poke :P
 
@BhargavRao I was thinking that :)
 
technically my father who earns well (also why I can't get any federal aid) is legally required to support me until I finish the apprenticeship, but due to my stepmother he does not, and suing him is neither something I'm willing to do nor something I can currently afford
 
Great minds think alike.
 
But fools seldom differ!
 
8:33 AM
@Magisch A bachelor doesn't get you anywhere.
Companies nowadays have an actual idea of who they want, and what they want.
 
@JonClements Bah, you ruin the saying ;_;
 
Not like 5-10 years back when they were writing "Need devs", without any specific language.
 
That's not true here.
 
If you can show your participation in open-source-projects, on platforms like StackOverflow or elsewhere...
 
Companies would hire anyone that even remotely call themselves "developers"
 
8:35 AM
^ Indeed.
That isn't the case anymore though, not in germany atleast.
 
Also - I think they like cute puppies... maybe...
 
I read about that, I don't know who exactly it was (that person recently passed away).
But he was some sort of pioneer back in the 70s, and he was mad about having to rely on people, without actually knowing anything about them.
You were forced to trust people you didn't even remotely know back then.
Bad times ô.ô
 
@Seth Because today it's better?
You trust credit card companies and banks with your money, you trust your ISPs and cell providers for "unbiased" communication, you trust your leaders and your government
Humans are social beings, we rely and trust each other because otherwise, we go extinct.
 
@mad it breaks down to I either do this or I'm all but doomed to languish at or near minimum wage for the forseeable future
 
@MadaraUchiha Well, back then you were forced to rely on people that you didn't know anything about.
 
8:45 AM
@Magisch I call bullshit.
 
Also, even if you'd have asked someone to prove their skills, you wouldn't have been able to judge without any knowledge.
 
Get better, learn, expand your horizons, and when you come to interview, they won't care about your degree
 
@MadaraUchiha If he doesn't finish his apprenticeship in germany he's most likely dead for the market.
 
@MadaraUchiha Without a degree you wont get an interview
 
That's how it is here, you do not need a BoS to get into the industry here, but you need either extraordinary skills or a finished apprenticeship.
 
8:46 AM
@Magisch Sounds like a sad market.
Have you considered remote?
 
@MadaraUchiha Nowadays near all tech companies use website apps that will filter out undesireables instantly
You simply dont get past the automatic filter without appropiate degree
 
@MadaraUchiha It's a good market, but it has some stopid requirements for you to participate :)
 
@MadaraUchiha Most remote positions in germany (from outside employers) are structured as contractor positions (due to some serious red tape in employment law), meaning taxes / payments get significantly more expensive.
 
@Magisch Most jobs offers today list "Required degree or comparable knowledge"
 
@Seth you only have a shot these days w/o a degree if you get recommended or headhunted. Try applying to a non-small business without one, the automatic filter will sieve you out.
 
8:50 AM
@Magisch Build a name for yourself
Go to conferences, talk to people, invest in Stack Overflow, invest in GitHub
The conventional road is the road everyone take, if you want to be perfectly average, that's how you do it.
 
Again all that would necessitate that I'm at least average at software development. I don't have any illusions about my talent, I'm not very good at this.
 
@Magisch That's what everyone thinks.
 
@Magisch So get better, no one is born good.
 
Well, most.
 
8:52 AM
The thing is, software development isn't really about talent.
 
Doesn't help that I have crippling social anxiety which means that talking to people not anonymously not online is just about the most draining thing for me
 
Partly it is.
@Magisch Well, don't talk to people then? :)
Work remotely.
 
Ugh...
the ".kw" seems fishy.
Idk though, can't open it right now ;o
 
Indeed, me neither
let's start by closing the question...
 
8:55 AM
wow wage discussion again
wow that link is not spam
 
wow
 
such link
few spam
wow
 
dodge :)
 
9:31 AM
@Cerbrus hmm it could use a reword before posting on CR
 
True, but it wouldn't be migrated there, would it?
Rather, re-posted, not?
I'll add a comment
 
yep nice thanks
 
Plop!
 
@Kyll Plop
 
Bye guys, Gtg
 
9:43 AM
o/
 

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