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3:01 PM
@NathanOliver It looks easy. I am still afraid (making me very nervous) that they will test my theoretical thinking design the hard way, as like "If he is a noob with the syntax, but a master in designs -> Hire him"
Fact: I consider my self bad in designs
@Seth saw that ridiculous simple app Pokemon Go? Made billions of $ in couple weeks.
 
@FirstStep Aye :P That's not that simple though.
It was simple because it simply re-used the engine of Ingress.
 
is this too broad?
 
But that engine itself is quite something c:
@FirstStep Designs are something that you can learn :) I'm getting more & more into it, and it really isn't witchcraft :) Just takes a bit.
 
@Seth I am reading everything and anything. To the point forgetting previous stuff you know (confusing)
 
@FirstStep Don't overdo it. If you overfeed your brain it won't help you a bit.
"Learning by doing"
 
3:06 PM
@Seth Well I did not say Pokemon Go was just some lines of codes. But it did not have that huge investment to get that Return On Investment
 
Try to create your own java project, improve it, extend it, and soon you'll see what "poor design choices" truly are :P
@FirstStep True, but that's something that happens very frequently in the mobile-app-industry (Flappy bird for example).
Or WhatsApp.
 
^ Which is why it is interesting and exciting to learn
 
Or Snapchat.
All you need is an idea, and a little bit of knowledge (or someone who can code a bit), and you're basically set
 
@Seth You never know when you will get "that" idea (apple on your head, Neuton) and you have all the market up and ready
@Seth yup, exactly
 
@FirstStep Yup. That's why learning new stuff is never a bad idea :)
 
3:14 PM
@Adriaan yes "Give me the code" thing
 
user4639281
3:31 PM
@Cerbrus I didn't say you were wrong, I said that you're allowed to be wrong, just like everyone else.
 
heyyo
 
oyyeh
Hey @Tiny
 
user4639281
o/
 
> _"I don't completely agree <...>"_
> _"That's OK, you are allowed to be wrong."_
 
o/
 
3:32 PM
@Cerbrus Technically speaking Tiny didn't say you are wrong :D
 
Yea, not literally saying "you're wrong", sure.
Still, heavily implying "You're wrong", which is not nice.
 
Mhh, heavily?
It feels - to me - like a smirky remark
 
@Seth "I don't agree" > "You're allowed to be wrong"
 
Which all in all just says "Everyone's entitled to their own opinion"
 
@FirstStep java wow
 
3:35 PM
Not constructive, not nice.
 
@ColdFire Yava
 
@Cerbrus Like I said, it's - to me - not more than a "My opinion beats yours! Mwahahaha" type of thing
 
And in direct reply to me disagreeing with him.
 
"Do you know Yava?"
 
@FirstStep never heard of this lang
 
user4639281
3:36 PM
I don't see anything not constructive about that comment
 
@QPaysTaxes arrrrrg
 
@QPaysTaxes nope nerver
 
user4639281
It is the equivalent of saying "agree to disagree"
 
I asked him nicely if he wanted to remove it, and he replies with semantics. I don't appreciate that.
 
Anything that happens on meta... stays on meta.
 
3:36 PM
@TinyGiant No, it's not.
 
user4639281
Well.... yeah it is
 
Oke, you both agree to disagree & we now move on.
Or I'll run you both over whilst moving on.
:o
 
"You're allowed to be wrong" is like saying "I'm right, you're not, but that's okay"
 
The Moving-On bus is going right now, who is staying?
 
Which really isn't very nice.
 
user4639281
3:37 PM
But if you really think it isn't, that is OK because you are allowed to be wrong.
 
@FirstStep lol
 
@Cerbrus It's a VERY open way of saying something. It leaves a lot of room for interpretation.
 
@QPaysTaxes In English it's pretty clear insinuation that Cerbrus is wrong, just saying
 
Just look at what he replies to.
 
But please, can we all move on now? We have had enough offtopic-time here now :| ......
 
3:38 PM
Geez
 
I know @Cerbrus
But discussing that here doesn't hold any value to anyone.
 
Look at the context, y'all. It's a direct reply to my disagreement.
 
Take a room, you 2.
Now.
 
user4639281
Hey, me and cerbrus have to have a fight at least once a week or the world will be out of balance
 
@TinyGiant This.
 
3:39 PM
"Bus starts moving slowly"
 
Can you like not? :/
 
"Horn to everyone else"
 
user4639281
I can't even take our arguments seriously anymore
 
@FirstStep Hops on the bus
 
Frankly, this time I am serious.
 
3:39 PM
@FirstStep hoping
 
-^ are you ever not?
 
user4639281
If you find it offensive, flag it
 
@Seth Never
 
"frankly my dear I don't give a damn"
 
user4639281
I meant no offense
 
3:40 PM
@PetterFriberg lol
 
Guess who is stoping it i.stack.imgur.com/oNpcO.jpg
 
I don't completely agree, I think the fact that you voted can be relevant. — Cerbrus yesterday
@Cerbrus That's OK, you are allowed to be wrong. :P — Tiny Giant 17 hours ago
 
here's to not revisiting past grudges
 
3:41 PM
@FirstStep one box
 
@QPaysTaxes Oh, I know who to blame now :P
Look, I just asked tiny if he could remove it, because it's unconstructive at best.
 
user4639281
In my opinion, you are wrong. But that is OK, because you are allowed to be wrong. Everyone is allowed to be wrong.
 
@QPaysTaxes BTW, what is your progress with QBot?
 
user4639281
I don't think it is unconstructive, I think it is quite constructive
 
3:43 PM
@TinyGiant You're allowed to be wrong.
 
user4639281
Instead of having a 30 unconstructive comment argument, we ended it with just a few constructive comments, I find that constructive
 
Well, as an RO, you aren't, really... :-/
 
Oh boy... -.-
 
user4639281
Being an RO doesn't make me infallible
 
I want to facepalm, but I'd rather have you two stop that discussion, or atleast take it to a private room.
 
3:44 PM
@TinyGiant My last message wasn't very serious...
 
user4639281
@seth discussions like this are on topic
 
I disagree with whatever was said.
 
@Tunaki Thanks!
 
user4639281
@Cerbrus I got that
 
and I would like to pass my last comment again...
 
3:45 PM
@TinyGiant Are they really?
 
user4639281
The discussion of whether or not a comment is constructive or not is very on-topic for this room
 
so we mod meta then
 
That's not the actual discussion here though.
Indeed @Drew
 
user4639281
@Drew No
 
Apparently we now do.
 
3:45 PM
I didn't intend to discuss it, even.
 
user4639281
Cerbrus wanted to discuss whether or not a specific comment was constructive or not.
 
Matter of fact, you both did. :|
 
user4639281
I wanted waffles
 
I didn't want to discuss it. I just asked you if you could remove it.
 
ok his answer appears to be no. so let's move on
 
3:46 PM
^^
 
Lets discuss who liked to discuss
 
@PetterFriberg ARGHHHHH
 
user4639281
Come on, who doesn't like seeing a fight between a lion and a wolf?
3
 
So, Cam Newton, Woot \o/
 
@TinyGiant Next time, I'll bring my laser pointer. Be warned.
 
user4639281
3:48 PM
oh noez, pretty lightz!!!
 
How can I find an algorithm to sort this by Disagree -> Agree?
 
@Cerbrus Or a squirt bottle. Dem catz hatez water.
 
user4639281
I disagree that we should agree to disagree. I think we should disagree to agree
 
@Queen sort chat Agreeing order
 
Welcome FirstStep, you have been added as Reviewer, standby executing your command
 
3:49 PM
@Tunaki thanks
 
@TinyGiant I have no opinion on that.
 
lol I hacked queen and added my self as a reviewer
BUG
ALERT
 
Hah, bet ya didn't see that coming.
 
it is a feature*
 
3:50 PM
@FirstStep you are above 3k so you can execute reviewer commands... she auto-added you but it was no valid command
 
So.. I'd get denied?
 
yes
 
:(
 
3:50 PM
try it
 
@Queen Whyyy
She doesn't even react.
 
@Queen did you deny seth?
 
:(
 
@Seth reppzzz you need repppz
 
@PetterFriberg have you disable AI here in this room?
 
3:51 PM
@PetterFriberg Shush, rene is telling me that all the time already >.<
@Queen sort chat Agreeing order
Hmm... Doesn't work :C
 
@NathanOliver who
 
@ColdFire Yeah she will not respond on incorrect commands
 
@TylerH QB for the Panthers.
 
@PetterFriberg ohh ok :(
 
@Seth well you could do without, if you are RO or Mod she will except command anyway ; )
 
3:52 PM
@PetterFriberg Brb, going to meta, I want my diamondz!
 
Yeah sounds like a good reason...
 
@Seth a diamond with 600 rep sounds weird
 
@Seth I literally once tried manually adding a diamond char to the end of my username, I failed :(
 
@ColdFire You need 3k atleast to be eligible I believe.
@AshishAhujaツ Aww :(
 
@ColdFire There are employees of SO with very low participation on the site that have diamonds and very low rep. Rare, but it happens.
 
3:54 PM
There is one with only 1 rep : )
 
@Louis But those are employees, not elected moderators :)
 
@Seth you are our Diamond. Shine bright like a diamond
 
she only answers on meta
 
@Louis i think they are employee
 
@FirstStep Lmao
 
3:54 PM
@Louis yeah, but they don't have mod powers (I believe). Meaning that they cannot handle flags, or ban users, etc
 
hmm I think they have... but they will not
 
@AshishAhujaツ Ohh, they do I think.
 
@ColdFire Yes, I literally opened with "There are employees of SO [...]"
 
@Seth With that bazoka on your sholder hell yeah it will shine bright like a diamond lol
 
they have full moderator access throughout the SE network
 
3:55 PM
Night o/!
 
@FirstStep I will make everyone see stars :)
 
o/
 
@AshishAhujaツ Gn8 :)
 
o/
 
@Seth so get yourself employed then you can come back and speak to queeny :D
actually in SOCVFinder room you can chat with her AI
 
3:56 PM
@PetterFriberg I really don't want to work here :) At SE, I mean.
Not as of now, atleast.
1.) I like using SO in my free time, and I don't want it to feel like work.
 
Night
 
2.) I'd feel inferior to almost every dev using SO :)
Night @Tushar
 
3) $$ make me change my mind
 
Night @Tushar
 
Cya Tushar
 
3:57 PM
haha petter
 
commuting home cya all
 
cya petter
 
o/
@Tushar
@PetterFriberg
 
@PetterFriberg Nope, I want my workplace to be enjoyable. As long as I have enough to live with I'm fine.
 
This kinda makes me sad. Asked / marked as dupe / owner deleted in less than a minute. What's the point?!
 
4:02 PM
as the profile says, This is fine.
 
@Tunaki The point is educating people to use the god darn search function ô.o
Or google.
 
@Tunaki Some OP's think it is bad to have a dupe closed Q.
 
@NathanOliver Mostly it's because duplicates attract downvotes :)
 
I would revise that and say blatant dupes attract down votes. I have answered and up voted dupe questions as I had no idea it was a dupe and they were very good sign post.
 
If a user deletes an answer and add another one with basically the same info, should I flag it for removal?
 
4:07 PM
That means moderating in order not to make things worse (and have hundreds of dupe, like that question was), instead of making them better. That's a bit depressing.
 
@Tunaki Maybe the OP estimated that their post did not add anything useful. We can disagree with that but if that's what the OP thought, then deletion is warranted.
 
@DavidG Why?
Is it their own answer both times?
 
@FirstStep you here
 
@NathanOliver That's why I'm asking! Yes, it's their answer. I pointed out something wrong with it, and after a few comments back and forth, they deleted and recreated it.
 
Hmm. Same answer without whatever you wanted fixed, fixed?
 
4:11 PM
@DavidG Depends. Is the user dodging something substantial? I've seen a case of someone deleting their downvoted answer only to repost it. Bam: insta-downvote-removal. I've flagged that behavior but don't recall what happened.
 
@NathanOliver the what
 
Dang I hit the rep cap :(
+ 16 loss lol
 
@NathanOliver Not really, but almost. Neither answer was downvoted, and they seemed to (eventually) understand that adding another answer was wrong.
 
@AndrewL. if that's a "dang", Jon Skeet's become quite the carillon over the years.
 
@TylerH American Football. Carolina Panthers
 
4:12 PM
@Louis asking was unwarranted, is what I'm saying :)
 
Ahaha :) @Adriaan
 
Just VLQ or is it abusive? stackoverflow.com/a/39577570/4099593
 
@DavidG I think they just did it to get a "clean" answer. I really do not see anything wrong with it. If there is still something wrong with the answer you may want to leave another comment.
 
Naa/vlq
 
@NathanOliver WHERE?
 
4:13 PM
@Tunaki Oh, I thought you were saddened by the deletion.
 
now I feel like I am being trolled
 
@NathanOliver Yeah, this is why I'm conflicted about flagging. The original answer was along the lines of "you should also change this code because it's 'better' <example code>" whereas the new answer was "<example code>".
 
@Louis Well a bit of both. I mean if you're going to ask a question, you should feel the need to keep it and fight for it. Asking and deleting like that is hit and run.
 
@BhargavRao vlq i guess, it looks like the "answer"er is trying to say that programming is hard
 
@DavidG If you do flag what do you expect the Mods to do?
 
4:15 PM
So either you don't ask, or you do but you assume it
 
@dorukayhan Ah gotcha. Thanks
 
@NathanOliver jk I know who Nam Cewton is
 
user4639281
@TylerH Who's that?
 
@NathanOliver That's why I'm asking really. If the user was just trying to post an answer without my comments, that's a bit cheeky.
 
4:16 PM
@TinyGiant Well, Nam Cewton.
 
user4639281
Who?
 
Nam.
 
@DavidG Agree but I am not sure anything really needs to be done.
 
user4639281
Never heard of him
 
Me neither.
 
user4639281
4:17 PM
The blind leading the blind
 
@Tunaki Sometimes, it is indeed the equivalent of a hit and run but sometimes I think the OP just realizes that well, their question was clearly a duplicate, and they feel embarrassed that they did not search (or search correctly). So they delete. Not sure why they should "fight for it" if they feel they've goofed.
 
@DavidG I would bug the 2nd answer just like the first also pointing out the delete
 
:)
Was it an = instead of an ==?
hahaha
 
afk
 
haha
 
4:26 PM
@ColdFire now here yes
 
2
Q: Burninate the [game-development] tag again

KaraThe game-development tag was added recently and applied to ~30 questions. Since it has been burninated more than once before it should be cleaned up again. Could this tag be black-listed this time?

 
@QPaysTaxes Flew into a relay. We're talking about electromechanical relays, with gaps between the contacts. Enough space for a moth to get stuck.
 
^^ That is so sad :(
 
@Feeds time to run @Burnaki
 
@JAL maybe invite the guy
idk room policy on that anymore
 
4:35 PM
Lets not feed that guys edits in here. If you want to to bring it up on meta or let the meta crowd find them.
 
JAL
Hey @DamjanPavlica, please do not try to add the game-development tag to new questions. It has already been burninated multiple times. Your actions are currently being discussed on meta. If you have any questions about tagging, please join me in the SOCVR chatroom. Thank you. — JAL 50 secs ago
^ thoughts?
 
@QPaysTaxes There were surely tubes nearby. :) But when I try to imagine what interaction a moth would have with a tube, I'm a bit puzzled. I don't see much happening other than the moth getting fried, if the tube happens to be hot.
 
Bye all, Gotta go
 
or Campaigns @JAL he is on a spree
 
JAL
I'll start with this for now, hopefully a mod will get involved shortly
 
user4639281
4:39 PM
 
user4639281
Awe, damn, ninja'd
 
@TinyGiant I know it is a joke but I would remove your comment on the meta Q.
 
user4639281
 
:)
@TinyGiant Just so you know I read that as funhaters as Ro's hat fun ;)
 
user4639281
lulz
 
user4639281
4:50 PM
fun-hat-ers, fun-hat-ers everywhere
 
HATS!
4
yep, heat-wave is over and so is my heat-stroke.
 
Oh god, I had forgotten about that winter nonsense thing.
 
Its okay. We have kicks and are prepared to use them.
 
user4639281
We have this internal community for the dealer network at work here. Unfortunately it is badly designed. There's no downvoting, only upvoting, no closing, no community editing, no differentiation between comments and answers, and multiple "answers" can be marked as accepted solutions. 90% of my "answers" are just posts with an image of the search bar with some FHC, and a list of links to duplicate questions.
 

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